Police Chief says Officer Wilson will likely not be charged.

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Sound police training doesn't train to shoot to wound stupid. LEO are trained to fire until the threat is suppressed. Now, granted in the military we were trained 2 in the chest 1 in the head, but regular police don't fire as often or train as hard as military police.

So police training is to be judge and jury? Who is stupid here? Police officers' duty is to apprehend and let the courts decide.

"...we in the military..." Oh fuck off, phony keyboard asshole.

Oh shut up with your stupid judge and jury crap. The guy attacked the cop then fled then attacked again. END OF STORY

Show the video of him attacking Wilson. Go ahead. Do it you stupid POS.

Forensics confirm that he attacked WIlson, stupid.

. . . But it doesn't confirm that it wasn't self-defense. If someone slammed a car door into you, what would you do?

Self defense isn't the issue here. Either Brown had surrendered and it was murder, or he hadn't and it was justified. PERIOD.

 

[MisterBeale]

So police training is to be judge and jury? Who is stupid here? Police officers' duty is to apprehend and let the courts decide.

"...we in the military..." Oh fuck off, phony keyboard asshole.

Oh shut up with your stupid judge and jury crap. The guy attacked the cop then fled then attacked again. END OF STORY

Show the video of him attacking Wilson. Go ahead. Do it you stupid POS.

Forensics confirm that he attacked WIlson, stupid.

Please provide a link that says he attacked Wilson. The report confirms a shot fired in the police vehicle and Brown's blood. That doesn't explain the other 5 shots fired after Brown tried to run away.

Brown turned and attacked Wison after running from the initial assault and failing to comply with the officers commands.. The cop had to unload his arsenal into him to prevent his life being put into jeopardy. The cop exiting his vehicle in the face of being attacked by this feral 3/5ths part human entity called a negro was pure bravery.

. . . and yet you can't provide a link or any evidence for such a consulted mish mash of a story. We could imagine such a scenario playing out on television or a Hollywood movie. But barring some huge amounts of methamphetamine in this teenagers already injured body? This scenario seems laughable at best. At worst, it is a stupid lie that only ignorant hate filled bigots would believe.

 

[MisterBeale]

So police training is to be judge and jury? Who is stupid here? Police officers' duty is to apprehend and let the courts decide.

"...we in the military..." Oh fuck off, phony keyboard asshole.

Oh shut up with your stupid judge and jury crap. The guy attacked the cop then fled then attacked again. END OF STORY

Show the video of him attacking Wilson. Go ahead. Do it you stupid POS.

Forensics confirm that he attacked WIlson, stupid.

. . . But it doesn't confirm that it wasn't self-defense. If someone slammed a car door into you, what would you do?

Self defense isn't the issue here. Either Brown had surrendered and it was murder, or he hadn't and it was justified. PERIOD.

Bullshit. Bullies, whether or not they are sanctioned by the State, DO NOT get to just tell you what to do, and then shoot you dead with deadly force if you do not comply. Officer Wilson WAS NOT under any serious threat of life and limb. That is the simple truth. This teenager was already injured. This is well established.

 

[80zephyr]

It's disgraceful is what it is. They ought to, at the very least, can his ass.

Who on Earth would want to be a police officer if the BEST result for you if you end up shooting a suspect is that you get fired?

Some of you are fucking idiots.

He did his job wrong, it resulted in TERRIBLE consequences. When people do their jobs wrong, they should be discharged. It really is that simple.

This sets a terrible precedent. "Peace officers" can use deadly force on unarmed citizens when they so choose. I just don't like it.

Racists here don't mind. But if the guy had been a white man, standing in front of his home, barring entry to his house because police didn't have a warrent and he diddn't want cops harassing his wife and young children? Well, I think folks would be singing a different tune. . . .

It does happen to whites too. This happened the same time the Brown shooting occurred, this kid never touched the cop and did not have a or any weapons on him. Cops pulled up, as the kid was walking away, and was shot for doing exactly what the cop said to do, get your hands out. NO crime committed, nothing. Someone had called the cops earlier and said there was a group of kids with a gun possibly. Why is it we have heard nothing about Dillon??? He did not have a gun, or any weapon.

Utah Local News - Salt Lake City News Sports Archive - The Salt Lake Tribune


Here s the video of him getting shot and killed:



Do we only get outraged over blacks youth being shot? In the last ten year period, whites were killed by plice twice as many times as blacks.

Blacks are just 13% of the population but are 8 times more likely than whites to be stopped and arrested.

ACLU report: Black drivers get pulled over more often than white drivers
ACLU report Black drivers get pulled over more often than white drivers - Omaha.com Crime Courts

Ann Coulter - September 3 2014 - SPEED KILLS RACIAL PROFILING STUDY

Being denounced as virtual Klansmen, the state troopers demanded a real study.
Confident that any new study would merely serve to confirm the troopers' racism, the DOJ and the New Jersey attorney general commissioned a statistical investigation from the Public Services Research Institute in Maryland.
The institute's study was a spectacular thing. Using expensive monitors with high-speed cameras and radar detectors, they clocked the speeds of nearly 40,000 drivers on the relevant section of the turnpike. Three researchers then examined the photos to determine the race of the driver -- without knowing whether the driver was speeding, which was defined as going more than 80 mph in 65 mph zones.
The result: No racial profiling.
Blacks constituted 25 percent of all speeders and they were 23 percent of drivers stopped for speeding. Controlling for age and gender, blacks sped at about twice the rate of whites. The racial disparity was even greater for drivers exceeding 90 mph.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Oh shut up with your stupid judge and jury crap. The guy attacked the cop then fled then attacked again. END OF STORY

Show the video of him attacking Wilson. Go ahead. Do it you stupid POS.

Forensics confirm that he attacked WIlson, stupid.

. . . But it doesn't confirm that it wasn't self-defense. If someone slammed a car door into you, what would you do?

Self defense isn't the issue here. Either Brown had surrendered and it was murder, or he hadn't and it was justified. PERIOD.

Bullshit. Bullies, whether or not they are sanctioned by the State, DO NOT get to just tell you what to do, and then shoot you dead with deadly force if you do not comply. Officer Wilson WAS NOT under any serious threat of life and limb. That is the simple truth. This teenager was already injured. This is well established.

Son, I seen a 5'3" woman get shot 4 times and run 40 feet and stab a man with a knife.

Put away your histrionics and try to listen to someone for a change, will you. When the body is injured, as when someone is shot, it produces massive amounts of endorphins to try to cope with the injury. This is similar to the body creating adrenaline which allow scared mothers to sometimes do things like lift the front end of a car off a child, or something of that nature.

This condition of course can't last long because the body just can't handle it, but it's basic science that it does happen and at least momentarily a person is almost super human. There have been MANY instances of a person who has been shot getting a hold of and harming the shooter.

Not to mention that isnt as if Wilson shot him once or twice, and then waited around then shot him some more. It was bang bang bang six shots in 5 or 6 seconds. That can happen to a person who isn't accustomed to shooting at human targets. The adrenaline kicks in and boom an entire magazine is emptied. I bet when asked Wilson didn't have any idea how many shots he fired.

I was an MP for 26 years, like it or not my opinion on this topic is more valid than yours. I actually find it sad that you don't think that is so.

 

[MisterBeale]

What is most compelling about this latest Brown video is that the two men reacting to what they are seeing are not aware they are being video-taped.

Therefore not acting or being interviewed. They simply confirm what the first witnesses stated right after the shooting.

But since many of you rednecks refuse to watch it, how would you know that?

I've seen the video, but I think most likely what happened is once Brown turned around and began to walk back, the officer after being attacked once was concerned the suspect was not going to stop, so he started firing.

What it really comes down to is that Brown should have never pushed the officer back into the squad car. He showed the officer right there that he was willing to assault an officer of the law.
Once that occurs, you have no defense, and you've opened yourself up to having lethal force being used against you.

That is bullshit. The job of police is to protect and serve, not harass and punish. If that officer had no suspicion that those teens had done anything wrong, belittling them, treating them disrespectfully, and/or hitting them with a car door and expecting them not to resist abuse is not to be expected. And if they do? You saying that the officer has every right to gun them down is pure insanity.

 

[CaféAuLait]

Sound police training doesn't train to shoot to wound stupid. LEO are trained to fire until the threat is suppressed. Now, granted in the military we were trained 2 in the chest 1 in the head, but regular police don't fire as often or train as hard as military police.

So police training is to be judge and jury? Who is stupid here? Police officers' duty is to apprehend and let the courts decide.

"...we in the military..." Oh fuck off, phony keyboard asshole.

Oh shut up with your stupid judge and jury crap. The guy attacked the cop then fled then attacked again. END OF STORY

Show the video of him attacking Wilson. Go ahead. Do it you stupid POS.

Forensics confirm that he attacked WIlson, stupid.

. . . But it doesn't confirm that it wasn't self-defense. If someone slammed a car door into you, what would you do?

According to Johnson's account. He also said the door opened less than and inch, that supposed half inch opening of the cops door supposedly knocked the wind out of Dorian but Big Mike took the brunt of it as well. Please. If that door did all that then it would have knocked the cop off kilter, instead he was somehow able to immediately grab Big Mike with the same hand he used to try and open his door by the front of the throat and choke Mike -all the while Mike was asking Dorian to hold his smokes while being choked out by the cop, If anyone really listened to Dorian's account objectively you can see he is lying and slips up and adds words to cover his mistakes,



Go on someone, open a car door an half inch into 480 to 500 pounds of people and tell me if it enough force to knock the wind out of someone. I'm guessing Wilson is about 180-200 pounds and barely got his door open according to Dorian. One, remember less than an inch- and somehow Wilson fell back into his car by opening his door less than an inch AND AT the same time grabbed Brown by the front of his throat. Dorian is full of it.

 

[Roadrunner]

It's disgraceful is what it is. They ought to, at the very least, can his ass.

Who on Earth would want to be a police officer if the BEST result for you if you end up shooting a suspect is that you get fired?

Some of you are fucking idiots.

He did his job wrong, it resulted in TERRIBLE consequences. When people do their jobs wrong, they should be discharged. It really is that simple.

This sets a terrible precedent. "Peace officers" can use deadly force on unarmed citizens when they so choose. I just don't like it.

Racists here don't mind. But if the guy had been a white man, standing in front of his home, barring entry to his house because police didn't have a warrent and he diddn't want cops harassing his wife and young children? Well, I think folks would be singing a different tune. . . .

He wasn't defending his home.

He was struttin' his shit in the street, cocky because he just shoved around a little dude and stole his cigars.

It was simply a case of Instant Karma; he stole from the guy, and shoved him around, and five minutes later he was dead in the street like a dog.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

What is most compelling about this latest Brown video is that the two men reacting to what they are seeing are not aware they are being video-taped.

Therefore not acting or being interviewed. They simply confirm what the first witnesses stated right after the shooting.

But since many of you rednecks refuse to watch it, how would you know that?

I've seen the video, but I think most likely what happened is once Brown turned around and began to walk back, the officer after being attacked once was concerned the suspect was not going to stop, so he started firing.

What it really comes down to is that Brown should have never pushed the officer back into the squad car. He showed the officer right there that he was willing to assault an officer of the law.
Once that occurs, you have no defense, and you've opened yourself up to having lethal force being used against you.

That is bullshit. The job of police is to protect and serve, not harass and punish. If that officer had no suspicion that those teens had done anything wrong, belittling them, treating them disrespectfully, and/or hitting them with a car door and expecting them not to resist abuse is not to be expected. And if they do? You saying that the officer has every right to gun them down is pure insanity.

Hey stupid, they were walking in the middle of the street, an offense in any jurisdiction in the world, and probably would have only gotten a warning and thus got away with the robbery earlier if they had complied with a lawful instruction to get out of the street.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

What is most compelling about this latest Brown video is that the two men reacting to what they are seeing are not aware they are being video-taped.

Therefore not acting or being interviewed. They simply confirm what the first witnesses stated right after the shooting.

But since many of you rednecks refuse to watch it, how would you know that?

I've seen the video, but I think most likely what happened is once Brown turned around and began to walk back, the officer after being attacked once was concerned the suspect was not going to stop, so he started firing.

What it really comes down to is that Brown should have never pushed the officer back into the squad car. He showed the officer right there that he was willing to assault an officer of the law.
Once that occurs, you have no defense, and you've opened yourself up to having lethal force being used against you.

That is bullshit. The job of police is to protect and serve, not harass and punish. If that officer had no suspicion that those teens had done anything wrong, belittling them, treating them disrespectfully, and/or hitting them with a car door and expecting them not to resist abuse is not to be expected. And if they do? You saying that the officer has every right to gun them down is pure insanity.

Ignoring facts in evidence I see, Now all of a sudden instead of brown attacking the cop somehow the cop slammed his door into Brown. Where do you get this crap from? Brown assaulted the officer in his car trying to take away his firearm. The evidence supports that. Brown was shot in the arm by the attempt. He fled. Wilson got out of the car and ordered him to stop and get on the ground. Instead Brown turned and charged at him.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

What is most compelling about this latest Brown video is that the two men reacting to what they are seeing are not aware they are being video-taped.

Therefore not acting or being interviewed. They simply confirm what the first witnesses stated right after the shooting.

But since many of you rednecks refuse to watch it, how would you know that?

I've seen the video, but I think most likely what happened is once Brown turned around and began to walk back, the officer after being attacked once was concerned the suspect was not going to stop, so he started firing.

What it really comes down to is that Brown should have never pushed the officer back into the squad car. He showed the officer right there that he was willing to assault an officer of the law.
Once that occurs, you have no defense, and you've opened yourself up to having lethal force being used against you.

That is bullshit. The job of police is to protect and serve, not harass and punish. If that officer had no suspicion that those teens had done anything wrong, belittling them, treating them disrespectfully, and/or hitting them with a car door and expecting them not to resist abuse is not to be expected. And if they do? You saying that the officer has every right to gun them down is pure insanity.

Ignoring facts in evidence I see, Now all of a sudden instead of brown attacking the cop somehow the cop slammed his door into Brown. Where do you get this crap from? Brown assaulted the officer in his car trying to take away his firearm. The evidence supports that. Brown was shot in the arm by the attempt. He fled. Wilson got out of the car and ordered him to stop and get on the ground. Instead Brown turned and charged at him.

As you said earlier white cops need to just start avoiding black criminals. See how long until citizens start screaming for a change.

White cops , you see a black breaking a law, walk the other way.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

What is most compelling about this latest Brown video is that the two men reacting to what they are seeing are not aware they are being video-taped.

Therefore not acting or being interviewed. They simply confirm what the first witnesses stated right after the shooting.

But since many of you rednecks refuse to watch it, how would you know that?

I've seen the video, but I think most likely what happened is once Brown turned around and began to walk back, the officer after being attacked once was concerned the suspect was not going to stop, so he started firing.

What it really comes down to is that Brown should have never pushed the officer back into the squad car. He showed the officer right there that he was willing to assault an officer of the law.
Once that occurs, you have no defense, and you've opened yourself up to having lethal force being used against you.

That is bullshit. The job of police is to protect and serve, not harass and punish. If that officer had no suspicion that those teens had done anything wrong, belittling them, treating them disrespectfully, and/or hitting them with a car door and expecting them not to resist abuse is not to be expected. And if they do? You saying that the officer has every right to gun them down is pure insanity.

Yeah, whatever, we can debate your outbursts until the sun comes up. Bottom line is, you don't attack an officer of the law, unless you're willing to face what is likely to be severe consequences.
We could ask Brown if he regrets mixing it up with the officer, but hey, he's dead.

 

[MisterBeale]

Show the video of him attacking Wilson. Go ahead. Do it you stupid POS.

Forensics confirm that he attacked WIlson, stupid.

. . . But it doesn't confirm that it wasn't self-defense. If someone slammed a car door into you, what would you do?

Self defense isn't the issue here. Either Brown had surrendered and it was murder, or he hadn't and it was justified. PERIOD.

Bullshit. Bullies, whether or not they are sanctioned by the State, DO NOT get to just tell you what to do, and then shoot you dead with deadly force if you do not comply. Officer Wilson WAS NOT under any serious threat of life and limb. That is the simple truth. This teenager was already injured. This is well established.

Son, I seen a 5'3" woman get shot 4 times and run 40 feet and stab a man with a knife.

Put away your histrionics and try to listen to someone for a change, will you. When the body is injured, as when someone is shot, it produces massive amounts of endorphins to try to cope with the injury. This is similar to the body creating adrenaline which allow scared mothers to sometimes do things like lift the front end of a car off a child, or something of that nature.

This condition of course can't last long because the body just can't handle it, but it's basic science that it does happen and at least momentarily a person is almost super human. There have been MANY instances of a person who has been shot getting a hold of and harming the shooter.

Not to mention that isnt as if Wilson shot him once or twice, and then waited around then shot him some more. It was bang bang bang six shots in 5 or 6 seconds. That can happen to a person who isn't accustomed to shooting at human targets. The adrenaline kicks in and boom an entire magazine is emptied. I bet when asked Wilson didn't have any idea how many shots he fired.

I was an MP for 26 years, like it or not my opinion on this topic is more valid than yours. I actually find it sad that you don't think that is so.

Sorry about your fallacious reasoning kiddo.

The fallacy you have just engaged in is called, Argument from authority
Argument from authority - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Fallacious examples of using the appeal include any appeal to authority used in the context of logical reasoning, and appealing to the position of an authority or authorities to dismiss evidence,[2][3][4][5] as, while authorities can be correct in judgments related to their area of expertise more often than laypersons,[citation needed] they can still come to the wrong judgments through error, bias, dishonesty, or falling prey to groupthink. Thus, the appeal to authority is not a generally reliable argument for establishing facts.[6]

While I agree with you on the adrenaline issue, the fact of the matter is that Brown was IN RETREAT. Likewise, as has been established by the majority of witnesses, he HAD SURRENDERED, he had his hands up. So your hypothesis of an adrenal attack falls on it's face by prima facia reasoning.

If we were to argue from authority, my credentials in logical analysis would far out match yours. But I am not going to post them, because as I am well versed in logic, the presenting evidence, analysis, and all of those other matters, and since this is the internet, that's sort of pointless, isn't it kiddo?

 

[MisterBeale]

What is most compelling about this latest Brown video is that the two men reacting to what they are seeing are not aware they are being video-taped.

Therefore not acting or being interviewed. They simply confirm what the first witnesses stated right after the shooting.

But since many of you rednecks refuse to watch it, how would you know that?

I've seen the video, but I think most likely what happened is once Brown turned around and began to walk back, the officer after being attacked once was concerned the suspect was not going to stop, so he started firing.

What it really comes down to is that Brown should have never pushed the officer back into the squad car. He showed the officer right there that he was willing to assault an officer of the law.
Once that occurs, you have no defense, and you've opened yourself up to having lethal force being used against you.

That is bullshit. The job of police is to protect and serve, not harass and punish. If that officer had no suspicion that those teens had done anything wrong, belittling them, treating them disrespectfully, and/or hitting them with a car door and expecting them not to resist abuse is not to be expected. And if they do? You saying that the officer has every right to gun them down is pure insanity.

Yeah, whatever, we can debate your outbursts until the sun comes up. Bottom line is, you don't attack an officer of the law, unless you're willing to face what is likely to be severe consequences.
We could ask Brown if he regrets mixing it up with the officer, but hey, he's dead.

I agree, that dumb teenager lost his head, he was as dumb as they get. But obviously, Wilson showed poor judgement, was unprofessional, and quite simply, is about as shitty a cop as they come. He was a bully having a bad, looking to assert his authority on a day looking for trouble. He found it.

They should can his ass. Did I ever say I thought he was guilty of a crime? No. I just don't think he is cut out to protect and serve. Who was he serving by this action? Who was he protecting?

I think he was just harassing and bullying. It got the community in trouble. That is all it accomplished.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Forensics confirm that he attacked WIlson, stupid.

. . . But it doesn't confirm that it wasn't self-defense. If someone slammed a car door into you, what would you do?

Self defense isn't the issue here. Either Brown had surrendered and it was murder, or he hadn't and it was justified. PERIOD.

Bullshit. Bullies, whether or not they are sanctioned by the State, DO NOT get to just tell you what to do, and then shoot you dead with deadly force if you do not comply. Officer Wilson WAS NOT under any serious threat of life and limb. That is the simple truth. This teenager was already injured. This is well established.

Son, I seen a 5'3" woman get shot 4 times and run 40 feet and stab a man with a knife.

Put away your histrionics and try to listen to someone for a change, will you. When the body is injured, as when someone is shot, it produces massive amounts of endorphins to try to cope with the injury. This is similar to the body creating adrenaline which allow scared mothers to sometimes do things like lift the front end of a car off a child, or something of that nature.

This condition of course can't last long because the body just can't handle it, but it's basic science that it does happen and at least momentarily a person is almost super human. There have been MANY instances of a person who has been shot getting a hold of and harming the shooter.

Not to mention that isnt as if Wilson shot him once or twice, and then waited around then shot him some more. It was bang bang bang six shots in 5 or 6 seconds. That can happen to a person who isn't accustomed to shooting at human targets. The adrenaline kicks in and boom an entire magazine is emptied. I bet when asked Wilson didn't have any idea how many shots he fired.

I was an MP for 26 years, like it or not my opinion on this topic is more valid than yours. I actually find it sad that you don't think that is so.

Sorry about your fallacious reasoning kiddo.

The fallacy you have just engaged in is called, Argument from authority
Argument from authority - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Fallacious examples of using the appeal include any appeal to authority used in the context of logical reasoning, and appealing to the position of an authority or authorities to dismiss evidence,[2][3][4][5] as, while authorities can be correct in judgments related to their area of expertise more often than laypersons,[citation needed] they can still come to the wrong judgments through error, bias, dishonesty, or falling prey to groupthink. Thus, the appeal to authority is not a generally reliable argument for establishing facts.[6]

While I agree with you on the adrenaline issue, the fact of the matter is that Brown was IN RETREAT. Likewise, as has been established by the majority of witnesses, he HAD SURRENDERED, he had his hands up. So your hypothesis of an adrenal attack falls on it's face by prima facia reasoning.

If we were to argue from authority, my credentials in logical analysis would far out match yours. But I am not going to post them, because as I am well versed in logic, the presenting evidence, analysis, and all of those other matters, and since this is the internet, that's sort of pointless, isn't it kiddo?

First of all sonny, I don't care what you found on the internet, only a fucking fool believes that someone who has you know done this for a living isn't more qualified to speak on the subject than someone who has not.

Second of all junior, you once again show that you don't understand the intricacies of the law.


the fact of the matter is that Brown was IN RETREAT.

First of al the forensic evidence PROVES that Brown was moving TOWARDS Wilson when he was shot.

But just for shits and giggles let's say you were right and Wilson fought with Brown, Brown tried to get Wilson's gun, and was shot, then Brown retreated

Wilson is still permitted to shoot him if he feels that's the only way to prevent the felon from escaping. You really don't seem to get that. The law allows a police officer to use deadly force to prevent a suspected felon from fleeing.

So , even under your made up scenario it's a good shoot.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

What is most compelling about this latest Brown video is that the two men reacting to what they are seeing are not aware they are being video-taped.

Therefore not acting or being interviewed. They simply confirm what the first witnesses stated right after the shooting.

But since many of you rednecks refuse to watch it, how would you know that?

I've seen the video, but I think most likely what happened is once Brown turned around and began to walk back, the officer after being attacked once was concerned the suspect was not going to stop, so he started firing.

What it really comes down to is that Brown should have never pushed the officer back into the squad car. He showed the officer right there that he was willing to assault an officer of the law.
Once that occurs, you have no defense, and you've opened yourself up to having lethal force being used against you.

That is bullshit. The job of police is to protect and serve, not harass and punish. If that officer had no suspicion that those teens had done anything wrong, belittling them, treating them disrespectfully, and/or hitting them with a car door and expecting them not to resist abuse is not to be expected. And if they do? You saying that the officer has every right to gun them down is pure insanity.

I just don't think

That about sums up your addition to this thread.

 

[CaféAuLait]

What is most compelling about this latest Brown video is that the two men reacting to what they are seeing are not aware they are being video-taped.

Therefore not acting or being interviewed. They simply confirm what the first witnesses stated right after the shooting.

But since many of you rednecks refuse to watch it, how would you know that?

I've seen the video, but I think most likely what happened is once Brown turned around and began to walk back, the officer after being attacked once was concerned the suspect was not going to stop, so he started firing.

What it really comes down to is that Brown should have never pushed the officer back into the squad car. He showed the officer right there that he was willing to assault an officer of the law.
Once that occurs, you have no defense, and you've opened yourself up to having lethal force being used against you.

That is bullshit. The job of police is to protect and serve, not harass and punish. If that officer had no suspicion that those teens had done anything wrong, belittling them, treating them disrespectfully, and/or hitting them with a car door and expecting them not to resist abuse is not to be expected. And if they do? You saying that the officer has every right to gun them down is pure insanity.

Yeah, whatever, we can debate your outbursts until the sun comes up. Bottom line is, you don't attack an officer of the law, unless you're willing to face what is likely to be severe consequences.
We could ask Brown if he regrets mixing it up with the officer, but hey, he's dead.

I agree, that dumb teenager lost his head, he was as dumb as they get. But obviously, Wilson showed poor judgement, was unprofessional, and quite simply, is about as shitty a cop as they come. He was a bully having a bad, looking to assert his authority on a day looking for trouble. He found it.

They should can his ass. Did I ever say I thought he was guilty of a crime? No. I just don't think he is cut out to protect and serve. Who was he serving by this action? Who was he protecting?

I think he was just harassing and bullying. It got the community in trouble. That is all it accomplished.

Bullying and harassing? Dorian admitted there were cars driving past them as they were walking down the middle of the street. That is most likely why the cop said get out of the street, that is an traffic impediment. Secondly they had just strong armed a store employee and assaulted him most likely they thought the cop was there to arrest them, which they reacted to. The evidence was out in the open and in their hands according to Johnson.

I can't wait for all the evidence to be released instead of all this he said she said crap. Justice Department is there, so is Civil RIghts and if they think there is any BS going on they will tell us immediately.

 

[MisterBeale]

So police training is to be judge and jury? Who is stupid here? Police officers' duty is to apprehend and let the courts decide.

"...we in the military..." Oh fuck off, phony keyboard asshole.

Oh shut up with your stupid judge and jury crap. The guy attacked the cop then fled then attacked again. END OF STORY

Show the video of him attacking Wilson. Go ahead. Do it you stupid POS.

Forensics confirm that he attacked WIlson, stupid.

. . . But it doesn't confirm that it wasn't self-defense. If someone slammed a car door into you, what would you do?

According to Johnson's account. He also said the door opened less than and inch, that supposed half inch opening of the cops door supposedly knocked the wind out of Dorian but Big Mike took the brunt of it as well. Please. If that door did all that then it would have knocked the cop off kilter, instead he was somehow able to immediately grab Big Mike with the same hand he used to try and open his door by the front of the throat and choke Mike -all the while Mike was asking Dorian to hold his smokes while being choked out by the cop, If anyone really listened to Dorian's account objectively you can see he is lying and slips up and adds words to cover his mistakes,



Go on someone, open a car door an half inch into 480 to 500 pounds of people and tell me if it enough force to knock the wind out of someone. I'm guessing Wilson is about 180-200 pounds and barely got his door open according to Dorian. One, remember less than an inch- and somehow Wilson fell back into his car by opening his door less than an inch AND AT the same time grabbed Brown by the front of his throat. Dorian is full of it.

Unless that police cruiser was moving at the time. I have had teenagers talk back to me before. IT IS ENRAGING!

If a couple of black teens disrespected this officer, I could see him using poor judgement and using his vehicle to batter them both. To the point of Johnson's testimony? You might be right about that, you might be wrong.

I can't say how it went down. The only point I am making is that, after Brown was shot, he should have just let it go. No one need to have died over this. It was stupid. It isn't like he murdered, robbed a bank, raped, or anything. Brown was already injured. He should have just called in back up till he cooled off.

HE HANDLED THIS UNPROFESSIONALLY. HE NEEDS TO BE CANNED.

If we nods our heads in approval to this type of police behavior, soon we will live in a brutal police state. We you MUST COMPLY with all police order, or they will SHOOT YOU DEAD, on the spot.

Do you want to live in a fascist state? REALLY?

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Oh shut up with your stupid judge and jury crap. The guy attacked the cop then fled then attacked again. END OF STORY

Show the video of him attacking Wilson. Go ahead. Do it you stupid POS.

Forensics confirm that he attacked WIlson, stupid.

. . . But it doesn't confirm that it wasn't self-defense. If someone slammed a car door into you, what would you do?

According to Johnson's account. He also said the door opened less than and inch, that supposed half inch opening of the cops door supposedly knocked the wind out of Dorian but Big Mike took the brunt of it as well. Please. If that door did all that then it would have knocked the cop off kilter, instead he was somehow able to immediately grab Big Mike with the same hand he used to try and open his door by the front of the throat and choke Mike -all the while Mike was asking Dorian to hold his smokes while being choked out by the cop, If anyone really listened to Dorian's account objectively you can see he is lying and slips up and adds words to cover his mistakes,



Go on someone, open a car door an half inch into 480 to 500 pounds of people and tell me if it enough force to knock the wind out of someone. I'm guessing Wilson is about 180-200 pounds and barely got his door open according to Dorian. One, remember less than an inch- and somehow Wilson fell back into his car by opening his door less than an inch AND AT the same time grabbed Brown by the front of his throat. Dorian is full of it.

Unless that police cruiser was moving at the time. I have had teenagers talk back to me before. IT IS ENRAGING!

If a couple of black teens disrespected this officer, I could see him using poor judgement and using his vehicle to batter them both. To the point of Johnson's testimony? You might be right about that, you might be wrong.

I can't say how it went down. The only point I am making is that, after Brown was shot, he should have just let it go. No one need to have died over this. It was stupid. It isn't like he murdered, robbed a bank, raped, or anything. Brown was already injured. He should have just called in back up till he cooled off.

HE HANDLED THIS UNPROFESSIONALLY. HE NEEDS TO BE CANNED.

If we nods our heads in approval to this type of police behavior, soon we will live in a brutal police state. We you MUST COMPLY with all police order, or they will SHOOT YOU DEAD, on the spot.

Do you want to live in a fascist state? REALLY?

You admit you don't know, but then claim the man used poor judgement and want him fired. You are a fucking retard. Seriously.

 

[MisterBeale]

What is most compelling about this latest Brown video is that the two men reacting to what they are seeing are not aware they are being video-taped.

Therefore not acting or being interviewed. They simply confirm what the first witnesses stated right after the shooting.

But since many of you rednecks refuse to watch it, how would you know that?

I've seen the video, but I think most likely what happened is once Brown turned around and began to walk back, the officer after being attacked once was concerned the suspect was not going to stop, so he started firing.

What it really comes down to is that Brown should have never pushed the officer back into the squad car. He showed the officer right there that he was willing to assault an officer of the law.
Once that occurs, you have no defense, and you've opened yourself up to having lethal force being used against you.

That is bullshit. The job of police is to protect and serve, not harass and punish. If that officer had no suspicion that those teens had done anything wrong, belittling them, treating them disrespectfully, and/or hitting them with a car door and expecting them not to resist abuse is not to be expected. And if they do? You saying that the officer has every right to gun them down is pure insanity.

Ignoring facts in evidence I see, Now all of a sudden instead of brown attacking the cop somehow the cop slammed his door into Brown. Where do you get this crap from? Brown assaulted the officer in his car trying to take away his firearm. The evidence supports that. Brown was shot in the arm by the attempt. He fled. Wilson got out of the car and ordered him to stop and get on the ground. Instead Brown turned and charged at him.

That's his story and he's sticking to it. . . .