Please listen to Champ Bailey, Charles Barkley

[IM2]

...and nothing at all about black men taking responsibility for the children they produce, taking responsibility for paying attention and not being disruptive in school, taking responsibility for developing a strong work ethic, taking responsibility for their behavior or taking responsibility for ANYTHING, really.


It's just more of that " listen to me while I blame you" attitude that keeps getting crammed down our collective throats here .

95 percent of these threads are blame blacks. The first paragraph you posted is a bunch of white racist bullshit. And because you actually believe this false bullshit, you are being shown how false it is.

IM2, I love your humor!

It's a shame that your mind is so fucked up.

So now let's get in the mud.

I am not going to be taking suggestions on what I am to talk about from a people that descended from individuals too fucking lazy to work free land you were given, who built as system excluding all others and now brag like it was a major accomplishment because they have more than anyone else, who father more out of wedlock children than blacks had children in total, who go into schools and shoot up other children, or have to be drugged with ritalin in order to not be a problem in school, who have the most people living generationally on welfare, started every world war, and maintains a flawed system based on a belief that because you have less of a chemical than someone else that makes you smarter.

 

[IM2]

No, Champ was right. All blacks have faced racism. Look, if you aren't black, shut the fuck up and listen because I am.

Vast majority of most crimes are committed by a person of the same race as the victim, Bureau of Justice Statistics reports.

The Justice Department’s statistics-crunching arm just blew up a whole stack of white-supremacist myths about the nature of interracial crime and violence committed by minorities.

In a report released Thursday titled Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-2015, the DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics found that a majority of most violent crimes are committed by people who are the same race as their victims. Indeed, the rate of white-on-white violent crime, it found, is about four times the rate of black-on-white crime.

White supremacists frequently like to manipulate crime statistics in order to claim that nonwhite minorities, particularly African-Americans, are far more crime-prone and the source of most violent crime against whites. Indeed, it is a core belief that this is the case, and many white nationalist ideologues — including politician and pundit Patrick Buchanan, Jared Taylor of American Renaissance, and the Council of Conservative Citizens — all have made considerable hay out of proffering “studies” laden with risibly bad statistics and other evidence to make their case.

The BJS study demonstrates plainly that this is simply not the case. Some 57 percent of crimes involving white victims were committed by white perpetrators, while only 15 percent were committed by blacks, and 11 percent by Hispanics. Black crime victims fell along similar racial lines, with 63 percent of the crimes committed by black perpetrators, while 11 percent were committed by whites, and 6.6 percent by Hispanics.

Overall, the BJS reported, “the percentage of intraracial [that is, same-race] victimization was higher than the percentage of interracial victimization for all types of violent crime except robbery.”

Moreover, it explained, “the rate of white-on-white violent crime (12.0 per 1,000) was about four times higher than black-on-white violent crime (3.1 per 1,000). The rate of black-on-black crime (16.5 per 1,000) was more than five times higher than white-on-black violent crime (2.8 per 1,000). The rate of Hispanic-on-Hispanic crime (8.3 per 1,000) was about double the rate of white-on-Hispanic (4.1 per 1,000) and black-on-Hispanic (4.2 per 1,000) violent crime.”

This is consistent with previously collected data, including a National Crime Victim Survey in 2000 that showed that 73 percent of white violent crime victims were attacked by whites, and 80 percent of black victims were targeted by blacks. This pattern is even clearer in the category of murder.

That hasn’t chastened the people promulgating the distorted statistics. Buchanan, citing Taylor’s fake statistics in 2007, wrote: “The real repository of racism in America — manifest in violent interracial assault, rape and murder — is to be found not in the white community, but the African-American community.”

Nor have the smears faded at all: In 2016, then-candidate Donald Trump retweeted a graphic that originated on a neo-Nazi website trotting out statistics mainly lifted from Taylor and the CofCC.

The false beliefs that arise from these smears have consequences, too: Dylann Roof, the domestic terrorist who killed nine members of a Charleston church’s black congregation in June 2015, shouted during the rampage at his victims his belief that they were “killing us.” In his manifesto, he specifically cited the CofCC’s website and Taylor’s smear pamphlet as the source of his information.

White supremacists' favorite myths about black crime rates take another hit from BJS study
White-on-White Crime
White on White Crime: The Statistic the Media Loves to Hide

3 Stats from the Department of Justice Disprove Racist Talking Points on Crime
Myths about Black and Latinx offenders disproportionately attacking White people may be titilating for White supremacists, but they are unsupported by the Bureau of Justice Statistics' new report.

President Donald Trump and his supporters who are White supremacists rely on rhetoric that accuses people of color—especially Blacks and Latinx—of disproportionately committing violent crimes against White targets. Those allegations guide the Trump administration’s calls to strengthen the force used by law enforcement agencies in cities and along the U.S.-Mexico border. But a recent report from the Trump administration’s own tough-on-crime Department of Justice (DOJ) rejects that premise.

The DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) numerically disproved people of color’s alleged criminality in ”Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-15,” which it released last Thursday (October 19). Using data from its National Crime Victimization Survey, the BJS puts a serious dent in race-baiting anti-crime arguments. The following three takeaways, among others, contradict the recurring claims about who actually assaults, murders or otherwise threatens White people:

1) White violent criminals disproportionately attack White victims.
“Among White victims, a higher percentage of victimizations were committed by white offenders (57 percent) than offenders of any other race. White victims perceived the offender to be Black in 15 percent of violent victimizations and Hispanic in 11 percent.”

2) White-on-White crime exceeds Latinx-on-Latinx crime rates, as well as those for crimes committed across races.
“During 2012-15, the rate of White-on-White violent crime (12.0 per 1,000 White persons) was about four times higher than Black-on-White violent crime (3.1 per 1,000). The rate of Black-on-Black violent crime (16.5 per 1,000 Black persons) was more than five times higher than White-on-Black violent crime (2.8 per 1,000). The rate of Hispanic-on-Hispanic violent crime (8.3 per 1,000 Hispanic persons) was about double the rate of White-on-Hispanic (4.1 per 1,000) and Black-on-Hispanic (4.2 per 1,000) violent crime. As with violent crime, the rates of serious violent crime and simple assault were higher for intraracial victimizations than interracial victimizations.”

3) White offenders are the group most likely to assault Black strangers.
“The percentage of violence committed against a Black victim by a white offender who was a stranger (50 percent) was higher than the percentage committed by a Black offender who was a stranger (38 percent).”

Read the full report here, and its summary here.

3 Stats from the Department of Justice Disprove Racist Talking Points on Crime | Colorlines

So blacks in Africa have faced

No, Champ was right. All blacks have faced racism. Look, if you aren't black, shut the fuck up and listen because I am.

Vast majority of most crimes are committed by a person of the same race as the victim, Bureau of Justice Statistics reports.

The Justice Department’s statistics-crunching arm just blew up a whole stack of white-supremacist myths about the nature of interracial crime and violence committed by minorities.

In a report released Thursday titled Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-2015, the DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics found that a majority of most violent crimes are committed by people who are the same race as their victims. Indeed, the rate of white-on-white violent crime, it found, is about four times the rate of black-on-white crime.

White supremacists frequently like to manipulate crime statistics in order to claim that nonwhite minorities, particularly African-Americans, are far more crime-prone and the source of most violent crime against whites. Indeed, it is a core belief that this is the case, and many white nationalist ideologues — including politician and pundit Patrick Buchanan, Jared Taylor of American Renaissance, and the Council of Conservative Citizens — all have made considerable hay out of proffering “studies” laden with risibly bad statistics and other evidence to make their case.

The BJS study demonstrates plainly that this is simply not the case. Some 57 percent of crimes involving white victims were committed by white perpetrators, while only 15 percent were committed by blacks, and 11 percent by Hispanics. Black crime victims fell along similar racial lines, with 63 percent of the crimes committed by black perpetrators, while 11 percent were committed by whites, and 6.6 percent by Hispanics.

Overall, the BJS reported, “the percentage of intraracial [that is, same-race] victimization was higher than the percentage of interracial victimization for all types of violent crime except robbery.”

Moreover, it explained, “the rate of white-on-white violent crime (12.0 per 1,000) was about four times higher than black-on-white violent crime (3.1 per 1,000). The rate of black-on-black crime (16.5 per 1,000) was more than five times higher than white-on-black violent crime (2.8 per 1,000). The rate of Hispanic-on-Hispanic crime (8.3 per 1,000) was about double the rate of white-on-Hispanic (4.1 per 1,000) and black-on-Hispanic (4.2 per 1,000) violent crime.”

This is consistent with previously collected data, including a National Crime Victim Survey in 2000 that showed that 73 percent of white violent crime victims were attacked by whites, and 80 percent of black victims were targeted by blacks. This pattern is even clearer in the category of murder.

That hasn’t chastened the people promulgating the distorted statistics. Buchanan, citing Taylor’s fake statistics in 2007, wrote: “The real repository of racism in America — manifest in violent interracial assault, rape and murder — is to be found not in the white community, but the African-American community.”

Nor have the smears faded at all: In 2016, then-candidate Donald Trump retweeted a graphic that originated on a neo-Nazi website trotting out statistics mainly lifted from Taylor and the CofCC.

The false beliefs that arise from these smears have consequences, too: Dylann Roof, the domestic terrorist who killed nine members of a Charleston church’s black congregation in June 2015, shouted during the rampage at his victims his belief that they were “killing us.” In his manifesto, he specifically cited the CofCC’s website and Taylor’s smear pamphlet as the source of his information.

White supremacists' favorite myths about black crime rates take another hit from BJS study
White-on-White Crime
White on White Crime: The Statistic the Media Loves to Hide

3 Stats from the Department of Justice Disprove Racist Talking Points on Crime
Myths about Black and Latinx offenders disproportionately attacking White people may be titilating for White supremacists, but they are unsupported by the Bureau of Justice Statistics' new report.

President Donald Trump and his supporters who are White supremacists rely on rhetoric that accuses people of color—especially Blacks and Latinx—of disproportionately committing violent crimes against White targets. Those allegations guide the Trump administration’s calls to strengthen the force used by law enforcement agencies in cities and along the U.S.-Mexico border. But a recent report from the Trump administration’s own tough-on-crime Department of Justice (DOJ) rejects that premise.

The DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) numerically disproved people of color’s alleged criminality in ”Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-15,” which it released last Thursday (October 19). Using data from its National Crime Victimization Survey, the BJS puts a serious dent in race-baiting anti-crime arguments. The following three takeaways, among others, contradict the recurring claims about who actually assaults, murders or otherwise threatens White people:

1) White violent criminals disproportionately attack White victims.
“Among White victims, a higher percentage of victimizations were committed by white offenders (57 percent) than offenders of any other race. White victims perceived the offender to be Black in 15 percent of violent victimizations and Hispanic in 11 percent.”

2) White-on-White crime exceeds Latinx-on-Latinx crime rates, as well as those for crimes committed across races.
“During 2012-15, the rate of White-on-White violent crime (12.0 per 1,000 White persons) was about four times higher than Black-on-White violent crime (3.1 per 1,000). The rate of Black-on-Black violent crime (16.5 per 1,000 Black persons) was more than five times higher than White-on-Black violent crime (2.8 per 1,000). The rate of Hispanic-on-Hispanic violent crime (8.3 per 1,000 Hispanic persons) was about double the rate of White-on-Hispanic (4.1 per 1,000) and Black-on-Hispanic (4.2 per 1,000) violent crime. As with violent crime, the rates of serious violent crime and simple assault were higher for intraracial victimizations than interracial victimizations.”

3) White offenders are the group most likely to assault Black strangers.
“The percentage of violence committed against a Black victim by a white offender who was a stranger (50 percent) was higher than the percentage committed by a Black offender who was a stranger (38 percent).”

Read the full report here, and its summary here.

3 Stats from the Department of Justice Disprove Racist Talking Points on Crime | Colorlines

So blacks in Africa have faced racism from other blacks?

We are talking about America.

Sometimes I think crimes described as racist are really power struggles.

No, they are racist.

 

[IM2]

...and nothing at all about black men taking responsibility for the children they produce, taking responsibility for paying attention and not being disruptive in school, taking responsibility for developing a strong work ethic, taking responsibility for their behavior or taking responsibility for ANYTHING, really.


It's just more of that " listen to me while I blame you" attitude that keeps getting crammed down our collective throats here .

95 percent of these threads are blame blacks. The first paragraph you posted is a bunch of white racist bullshit. And because you actually believe this false bullshit, you are being shown how false it is.

Responsibility is racist.

You heard it here first, folks!!

Josh Levs points this out in his new book, “All In,” in a chapter titled “How Black Dads Are Doing Best of All (But There’s Still a Crisis).” One fact that Levs quickly establishes is that most black fathers in America live with their children: “There are about 2.5 million black fathers living with their children and about 1.7 million living apart from them.”

So then,” you may ask, “how is it that 72 percent of black children are born to single mothers? How can both be true?”

Good question.

Here are two things to consider:

First, there are a growing number of people who live together but don’t marry. Those mothers are still single, even though the child’s father may be in the home. And, as The Washington Post reported last year:

“The share of unmarried couples who opted to have ‘shotgun cohabitations’ — moving in together after a pregnancy — surpassed ‘shotgun marriages’ for the first time during the last decade, according to a forthcoming paper from the National Center for Health Statistics, part of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.”

Opinion | Black Dads Are Doing Best of All

Shut up before your punk ass gets further embarrassed.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

...and nothing at all about black men taking responsibility for the children they produce, taking responsibility for paying attention and not being disruptive in school, taking responsibility for developing a strong work ethic, taking responsibility for their behavior or taking responsibility for ANYTHING, really.


It's just more of that " listen to me while I blame you" attitude that keeps getting crammed down our collective throats here .

95 percent of these threads are blame blacks. The first paragraph you posted is a bunch of white racist bullshit. And because you actually believe this false bullshit, you are being shown how false it is.

Responsibility is racist.

You heard it here first, folks!!

Josh Levs points this out in his new book, “All In,” in a chapter titled “How Black Dads Are Doing Best of All (But There’s Still a Crisis).” One fact that Levs quickly establishes is that most black fathers in America live with their children: “There are about 2.5 million black fathers living with their children and about 1.7 million living apart from them.”

So then,” you may ask, “how is it that 72 percent of black children are born to single mothers? How can both be true?”

Good question.

Here are two things to consider:

First, there are a growing number of people who live together but don’t marry. Those mothers are still single, even though the child’s father may be in the home. And, as The Washington Post reported last year:

“The share of unmarried couples who opted to have ‘shotgun cohabitations’ — moving in together after a pregnancy — surpassed ‘shotgun marriages’ for the first time during the last decade, according to a forthcoming paper from the National Center for Health Statistics, part of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.”

Opinion | Black Dads Are Doing Best of All

Shut up before your punk ass gets further embarrassed.

You sure do like telling people to shut up. Good thing you are who you are and have the privilege that comes with it. .

Now, having established that responsibility is racist, though, perhaps you could help us out here by compiling a list of other qualities that are racist. Is honesty racist? loyalty? sincerity? kindness?

I think you would do us all a great favor if you were to list the qualities that are racist before a person inadvertently encourages other people to consider them.

thanks in advance



edit -- and here is a link for honest people to use.

Census Bureau: Higher Percentage of Black Children Live with Single Mothers | Afro

 

[IM2]

...and nothing at all about black men taking responsibility for the children they produce, taking responsibility for paying attention and not being disruptive in school, taking responsibility for developing a strong work ethic, taking responsibility for their behavior or taking responsibility for ANYTHING, really.


It's just more of that " listen to me while I blame you" attitude that keeps getting crammed down our collective throats here .

95 percent of these threads are blame blacks. The first paragraph you posted is a bunch of white racist bullshit. And because you actually believe this false bullshit, you are being shown how false it is.

Responsibility is racist.

You heard it here first, folks!!

Josh Levs points this out in his new book, “All In,” in a chapter titled “How Black Dads Are Doing Best of All (But There’s Still a Crisis).” One fact that Levs quickly establishes is that most black fathers in America live with their children: “There are about 2.5 million black fathers living with their children and about 1.7 million living apart from them.”

So then,” you may ask, “how is it that 72 percent of black children are born to single mothers? How can both be true?”

Good question.

Here are two things to consider:

First, there are a growing number of people who live together but don’t marry. Those mothers are still single, even though the child’s father may be in the home. And, as The Washington Post reported last year:

“The share of unmarried couples who opted to have ‘shotgun cohabitations’ — moving in together after a pregnancy — surpassed ‘shotgun marriages’ for the first time during the last decade, according to a forthcoming paper from the National Center for Health Statistics, part of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.”

Opinion | Black Dads Are Doing Best of All

Shut up before your punk ass gets further embarrassed.

You sure do like telling people to shut up. Good thing you are who you are and have the privilege that comes with it. .

Now, having established that responsibility is racist, though, perhaps you could help us out here by compiling a list of other qualities that are racist. Is honesty racist? loyalty? sincerity? kindness?

I think you would do us all a great favor if you were to list the qualities that are racist before a person inadvertently encourages other people to consider them.

thanks in advance



edit -- and here is a link for honest people to use.

Census Bureau: Higher Percentage of Black Children Live with Single Mothers | Afro

Since no such thing was established...

“The share of unmarried couples who opted to have ‘shotgun cohabitations’ — moving in together after a pregnancy — surpassed ‘shotgun marriages’ for the first time during the last decade, according to a forthcoming paper from the National Center for Health Statistics, part of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...39e63e9c9a7_story.html?utm_term=.cf11ebc3c517

Now son, start a thread. And I'll be more than happy to stomp a mudhole in your lying, disingenuous, crybaby, punk white ass.

 

[Third Party]

...and nothing at all about black men taking responsibility for the children they produce, taking responsibility for paying attention and not being disruptive in school, taking responsibility for developing a strong work ethic, taking responsibility for their behavior or taking responsibility for ANYTHING, really.


It's just more of that " listen to me while I blame you" attitude that keeps getting crammed down our collective throats here .

95 percent of these threads are blame blacks. The first paragraph you posted is a bunch of white racist bullshit. And because you actually believe this false bullshit, you are being shown how false it is.

IM2, I love your humor!

It's a shame that your mind is so fucked up.

So now let's get in the mud.

I am not going to be taking suggestions on what I am to talk about from a people that descended from individuals too fucking lazy to work free land you were given, who built as system excluding all others and now brag like it was a major accomplishment because they have more than anyone else, who father more out of wedlock children than blacks had children in total, who go into schools and shoot up other children, or have to be drugged with ritalin in order to not be a problem in school, who have the most people living generationally on welfare, started every world war, and maintains a flawed system based on a belief that because you have less of a chemical than someone else that makes you smarter.

Sorry, I don't believe your rants. Someone told me you are a white, a girl, and writing a paper on race baiting. Is any of that true?

 

[Third Party]

No, Champ was right. All blacks have faced racism. Look, if you aren't black, shut the fuck up and listen because I am.

Vast majority of most crimes are committed by a person of the same race as the victim, Bureau of Justice Statistics reports.

The Justice Department’s statistics-crunching arm just blew up a whole stack of white-supremacist myths about the nature of interracial crime and violence committed by minorities.

In a report released Thursday titled Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-2015, the DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics found that a majority of most violent crimes are committed by people who are the same race as their victims. Indeed, the rate of white-on-white violent crime, it found, is about four times the rate of black-on-white crime.

White supremacists frequently like to manipulate crime statistics in order to claim that nonwhite minorities, particularly African-Americans, are far more crime-prone and the source of most violent crime against whites. Indeed, it is a core belief that this is the case, and many white nationalist ideologues — including politician and pundit Patrick Buchanan, Jared Taylor of American Renaissance, and the Council of Conservative Citizens — all have made considerable hay out of proffering “studies” laden with risibly bad statistics and other evidence to make their case.

The BJS study demonstrates plainly that this is simply not the case. Some 57 percent of crimes involving white victims were committed by white perpetrators, while only 15 percent were committed by blacks, and 11 percent by Hispanics. Black crime victims fell along similar racial lines, with 63 percent of the crimes committed by black perpetrators, while 11 percent were committed by whites, and 6.6 percent by Hispanics.

Overall, the BJS reported, “the percentage of intraracial [that is, same-race] victimization was higher than the percentage of interracial victimization for all types of violent crime except robbery.”

Moreover, it explained, “the rate of white-on-white violent crime (12.0 per 1,000) was about four times higher than black-on-white violent crime (3.1 per 1,000). The rate of black-on-black crime (16.5 per 1,000) was more than five times higher than white-on-black violent crime (2.8 per 1,000). The rate of Hispanic-on-Hispanic crime (8.3 per 1,000) was about double the rate of white-on-Hispanic (4.1 per 1,000) and black-on-Hispanic (4.2 per 1,000) violent crime.”

This is consistent with previously collected data, including a National Crime Victim Survey in 2000 that showed that 73 percent of white violent crime victims were attacked by whites, and 80 percent of black victims were targeted by blacks. This pattern is even clearer in the category of murder.

That hasn’t chastened the people promulgating the distorted statistics. Buchanan, citing Taylor’s fake statistics in 2007, wrote: “The real repository of racism in America — manifest in violent interracial assault, rape and murder — is to be found not in the white community, but the African-American community.”

Nor have the smears faded at all: In 2016, then-candidate Donald Trump retweeted a graphic that originated on a neo-Nazi website trotting out statistics mainly lifted from Taylor and the CofCC.

The false beliefs that arise from these smears have consequences, too: Dylann Roof, the domestic terrorist who killed nine members of a Charleston church’s black congregation in June 2015, shouted during the rampage at his victims his belief that they were “killing us.” In his manifesto, he specifically cited the CofCC’s website and Taylor’s smear pamphlet as the source of his information.

White supremacists' favorite myths about black crime rates take another hit from BJS study
White-on-White Crime
White on White Crime: The Statistic the Media Loves to Hide

3 Stats from the Department of Justice Disprove Racist Talking Points on Crime
Myths about Black and Latinx offenders disproportionately attacking White people may be titilating for White supremacists, but they are unsupported by the Bureau of Justice Statistics' new report.

President Donald Trump and his supporters who are White supremacists rely on rhetoric that accuses people of color—especially Blacks and Latinx—of disproportionately committing violent crimes against White targets. Those allegations guide the Trump administration’s calls to strengthen the force used by law enforcement agencies in cities and along the U.S.-Mexico border. But a recent report from the Trump administration’s own tough-on-crime Department of Justice (DOJ) rejects that premise.

The DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) numerically disproved people of color’s alleged criminality in ”Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-15,” which it released last Thursday (October 19). Using data from its National Crime Victimization Survey, the BJS puts a serious dent in race-baiting anti-crime arguments. The following three takeaways, among others, contradict the recurring claims about who actually assaults, murders or otherwise threatens White people:

1) White violent criminals disproportionately attack White victims.
“Among White victims, a higher percentage of victimizations were committed by white offenders (57 percent) than offenders of any other race. White victims perceived the offender to be Black in 15 percent of violent victimizations and Hispanic in 11 percent.”

2) White-on-White crime exceeds Latinx-on-Latinx crime rates, as well as those for crimes committed across races.
“During 2012-15, the rate of White-on-White violent crime (12.0 per 1,000 White persons) was about four times higher than Black-on-White violent crime (3.1 per 1,000). The rate of Black-on-Black violent crime (16.5 per 1,000 Black persons) was more than five times higher than White-on-Black violent crime (2.8 per 1,000). The rate of Hispanic-on-Hispanic violent crime (8.3 per 1,000 Hispanic persons) was about double the rate of White-on-Hispanic (4.1 per 1,000) and Black-on-Hispanic (4.2 per 1,000) violent crime. As with violent crime, the rates of serious violent crime and simple assault were higher for intraracial victimizations than interracial victimizations.”

3) White offenders are the group most likely to assault Black strangers.
“The percentage of violence committed against a Black victim by a white offender who was a stranger (50 percent) was higher than the percentage committed by a Black offender who was a stranger (38 percent).”

Read the full report here, and its summary here.

3 Stats from the Department of Justice Disprove Racist Talking Points on Crime | Colorlines

So blacks in Africa have faced

No, Champ was right. All blacks have faced racism. Look, if you aren't black, shut the fuck up and listen because I am.

Vast majority of most crimes are committed by a person of the same race as the victim, Bureau of Justice Statistics reports.

The Justice Department’s statistics-crunching arm just blew up a whole stack of white-supremacist myths about the nature of interracial crime and violence committed by minorities.

In a report released Thursday titled Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-2015, the DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics found that a majority of most violent crimes are committed by people who are the same race as their victims. Indeed, the rate of white-on-white violent crime, it found, is about four times the rate of black-on-white crime.

White supremacists frequently like to manipulate crime statistics in order to claim that nonwhite minorities, particularly African-Americans, are far more crime-prone and the source of most violent crime against whites. Indeed, it is a core belief that this is the case, and many white nationalist ideologues — including politician and pundit Patrick Buchanan, Jared Taylor of American Renaissance, and the Council of Conservative Citizens — all have made considerable hay out of proffering “studies” laden with risibly bad statistics and other evidence to make their case.

The BJS study demonstrates plainly that this is simply not the case. Some 57 percent of crimes involving white victims were committed by white perpetrators, while only 15 percent were committed by blacks, and 11 percent by Hispanics. Black crime victims fell along similar racial lines, with 63 percent of the crimes committed by black perpetrators, while 11 percent were committed by whites, and 6.6 percent by Hispanics.

Overall, the BJS reported, “the percentage of intraracial [that is, same-race] victimization was higher than the percentage of interracial victimization for all types of violent crime except robbery.”

Moreover, it explained, “the rate of white-on-white violent crime (12.0 per 1,000) was about four times higher than black-on-white violent crime (3.1 per 1,000). The rate of black-on-black crime (16.5 per 1,000) was more than five times higher than white-on-black violent crime (2.8 per 1,000). The rate of Hispanic-on-Hispanic crime (8.3 per 1,000) was about double the rate of white-on-Hispanic (4.1 per 1,000) and black-on-Hispanic (4.2 per 1,000) violent crime.”

This is consistent with previously collected data, including a National Crime Victim Survey in 2000 that showed that 73 percent of white violent crime victims were attacked by whites, and 80 percent of black victims were targeted by blacks. This pattern is even clearer in the category of murder.

That hasn’t chastened the people promulgating the distorted statistics. Buchanan, citing Taylor’s fake statistics in 2007, wrote: “The real repository of racism in America — manifest in violent interracial assault, rape and murder — is to be found not in the white community, but the African-American community.”

Nor have the smears faded at all: In 2016, then-candidate Donald Trump retweeted a graphic that originated on a neo-Nazi website trotting out statistics mainly lifted from Taylor and the CofCC.

The false beliefs that arise from these smears have consequences, too: Dylann Roof, the domestic terrorist who killed nine members of a Charleston church’s black congregation in June 2015, shouted during the rampage at his victims his belief that they were “killing us.” In his manifesto, he specifically cited the CofCC’s website and Taylor’s smear pamphlet as the source of his information.

White supremacists' favorite myths about black crime rates take another hit from BJS study
White-on-White Crime
White on White Crime: The Statistic the Media Loves to Hide

3 Stats from the Department of Justice Disprove Racist Talking Points on Crime
Myths about Black and Latinx offenders disproportionately attacking White people may be titilating for White supremacists, but they are unsupported by the Bureau of Justice Statistics' new report.

President Donald Trump and his supporters who are White supremacists rely on rhetoric that accuses people of color—especially Blacks and Latinx—of disproportionately committing violent crimes against White targets. Those allegations guide the Trump administration’s calls to strengthen the force used by law enforcement agencies in cities and along the U.S.-Mexico border. But a recent report from the Trump administration’s own tough-on-crime Department of Justice (DOJ) rejects that premise.

The DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) numerically disproved people of color’s alleged criminality in ”Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-15,” which it released last Thursday (October 19). Using data from its National Crime Victimization Survey, the BJS puts a serious dent in race-baiting anti-crime arguments. The following three takeaways, among others, contradict the recurring claims about who actually assaults, murders or otherwise threatens White people:

1) White violent criminals disproportionately attack White victims.
“Among White victims, a higher percentage of victimizations were committed by white offenders (57 percent) than offenders of any other race. White victims perceived the offender to be Black in 15 percent of violent victimizations and Hispanic in 11 percent.”

2) White-on-White crime exceeds Latinx-on-Latinx crime rates, as well as those for crimes committed across races.
“During 2012-15, the rate of White-on-White violent crime (12.0 per 1,000 White persons) was about four times higher than Black-on-White violent crime (3.1 per 1,000). The rate of Black-on-Black violent crime (16.5 per 1,000 Black persons) was more than five times higher than White-on-Black violent crime (2.8 per 1,000). The rate of Hispanic-on-Hispanic violent crime (8.3 per 1,000 Hispanic persons) was about double the rate of White-on-Hispanic (4.1 per 1,000) and Black-on-Hispanic (4.2 per 1,000) violent crime. As with violent crime, the rates of serious violent crime and simple assault were higher for intraracial victimizations than interracial victimizations.”

3) White offenders are the group most likely to assault Black strangers.
“The percentage of violence committed against a Black victim by a white offender who was a stranger (50 percent) was higher than the percentage committed by a Black offender who was a stranger (38 percent).”

Read the full report here, and its summary here.

3 Stats from the Department of Justice Disprove Racist Talking Points on Crime | Colorlines

So blacks in Africa have faced racism from other blacks?

We are talking about America.

Sometimes I think crimes described as racist are really power struggles.

No, they are racist.

Like on Empire with all blacks? Wow! I could see Jussie Smollet, but not others.

 

[IM2]

...and nothing at all about black men taking responsibility for the children they produce, taking responsibility for paying attention and not being disruptive in school, taking responsibility for developing a strong work ethic, taking responsibility for their behavior or taking responsibility for ANYTHING, really.


It's just more of that " listen to me while I blame you" attitude that keeps getting crammed down our collective throats here .

95 percent of these threads are blame blacks. The first paragraph you posted is a bunch of white racist bullshit. And because you actually believe this false bullshit, you are being shown how false it is.

IM2, I love your humor!

It's a shame that your mind is so fucked up.

So now let's get in the mud.

I am not going to be taking suggestions on what I am to talk about from a people that descended from individuals too fucking lazy to work free land you were given, who built as system excluding all others and now brag like it was a major accomplishment because they have more than anyone else, who father more out of wedlock children than blacks had children in total, who go into schools and shoot up other children, or have to be drugged with ritalin in order to not be a problem in school, who have the most people living generationally on welfare, started every world war, and maintains a flawed system based on a belief that because you have less of a chemical than someone else that makes you smarter.

Sorry, I don't believe your rants. Someone told me you are a white, a girl, and writing a paper on race baiting. Is any of that true?

Nobody told you that and I don't give a fuck about what you believe. And just to shut your retard ass before you come with the you didn't answer my question bullshit, the answer is

FUCK NO!

 

[IM2]

No, Champ was right. All blacks have faced racism. Look, if you aren't black, shut the fuck up and listen because I am.

Vast majority of most crimes are committed by a person of the same race as the victim, Bureau of Justice Statistics reports.

The Justice Department’s statistics-crunching arm just blew up a whole stack of white-supremacist myths about the nature of interracial crime and violence committed by minorities.

In a report released Thursday titled Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-2015, the DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics found that a majority of most violent crimes are committed by people who are the same race as their victims. Indeed, the rate of white-on-white violent crime, it found, is about four times the rate of black-on-white crime.

White supremacists frequently like to manipulate crime statistics in order to claim that nonwhite minorities, particularly African-Americans, are far more crime-prone and the source of most violent crime against whites. Indeed, it is a core belief that this is the case, and many white nationalist ideologues — including politician and pundit Patrick Buchanan, Jared Taylor of American Renaissance, and the Council of Conservative Citizens — all have made considerable hay out of proffering “studies” laden with risibly bad statistics and other evidence to make their case.

The BJS study demonstrates plainly that this is simply not the case. Some 57 percent of crimes involving white victims were committed by white perpetrators, while only 15 percent were committed by blacks, and 11 percent by Hispanics. Black crime victims fell along similar racial lines, with 63 percent of the crimes committed by black perpetrators, while 11 percent were committed by whites, and 6.6 percent by Hispanics.

Overall, the BJS reported, “the percentage of intraracial [that is, same-race] victimization was higher than the percentage of interracial victimization for all types of violent crime except robbery.”

Moreover, it explained, “the rate of white-on-white violent crime (12.0 per 1,000) was about four times higher than black-on-white violent crime (3.1 per 1,000). The rate of black-on-black crime (16.5 per 1,000) was more than five times higher than white-on-black violent crime (2.8 per 1,000). The rate of Hispanic-on-Hispanic crime (8.3 per 1,000) was about double the rate of white-on-Hispanic (4.1 per 1,000) and black-on-Hispanic (4.2 per 1,000) violent crime.”

This is consistent with previously collected data, including a National Crime Victim Survey in 2000 that showed that 73 percent of white violent crime victims were attacked by whites, and 80 percent of black victims were targeted by blacks. This pattern is even clearer in the category of murder.

That hasn’t chastened the people promulgating the distorted statistics. Buchanan, citing Taylor’s fake statistics in 2007, wrote: “The real repository of racism in America — manifest in violent interracial assault, rape and murder — is to be found not in the white community, but the African-American community.”

Nor have the smears faded at all: In 2016, then-candidate Donald Trump retweeted a graphic that originated on a neo-Nazi website trotting out statistics mainly lifted from Taylor and the CofCC.

The false beliefs that arise from these smears have consequences, too: Dylann Roof, the domestic terrorist who killed nine members of a Charleston church’s black congregation in June 2015, shouted during the rampage at his victims his belief that they were “killing us.” In his manifesto, he specifically cited the CofCC’s website and Taylor’s smear pamphlet as the source of his information.

White supremacists' favorite myths about black crime rates take another hit from BJS study
White-on-White Crime
White on White Crime: The Statistic the Media Loves to Hide

3 Stats from the Department of Justice Disprove Racist Talking Points on Crime
Myths about Black and Latinx offenders disproportionately attacking White people may be titilating for White supremacists, but they are unsupported by the Bureau of Justice Statistics' new report.

President Donald Trump and his supporters who are White supremacists rely on rhetoric that accuses people of color—especially Blacks and Latinx—of disproportionately committing violent crimes against White targets. Those allegations guide the Trump administration’s calls to strengthen the force used by law enforcement agencies in cities and along the U.S.-Mexico border. But a recent report from the Trump administration’s own tough-on-crime Department of Justice (DOJ) rejects that premise.

The DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) numerically disproved people of color’s alleged criminality in ”Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-15,” which it released last Thursday (October 19). Using data from its National Crime Victimization Survey, the BJS puts a serious dent in race-baiting anti-crime arguments. The following three takeaways, among others, contradict the recurring claims about who actually assaults, murders or otherwise threatens White people:

1) White violent criminals disproportionately attack White victims.
“Among White victims, a higher percentage of victimizations were committed by white offenders (57 percent) than offenders of any other race. White victims perceived the offender to be Black in 15 percent of violent victimizations and Hispanic in 11 percent.”

2) White-on-White crime exceeds Latinx-on-Latinx crime rates, as well as those for crimes committed across races.
“During 2012-15, the rate of White-on-White violent crime (12.0 per 1,000 White persons) was about four times higher than Black-on-White violent crime (3.1 per 1,000). The rate of Black-on-Black violent crime (16.5 per 1,000 Black persons) was more than five times higher than White-on-Black violent crime (2.8 per 1,000). The rate of Hispanic-on-Hispanic violent crime (8.3 per 1,000 Hispanic persons) was about double the rate of White-on-Hispanic (4.1 per 1,000) and Black-on-Hispanic (4.2 per 1,000) violent crime. As with violent crime, the rates of serious violent crime and simple assault were higher for intraracial victimizations than interracial victimizations.”

3) White offenders are the group most likely to assault Black strangers.
“The percentage of violence committed against a Black victim by a white offender who was a stranger (50 percent) was higher than the percentage committed by a Black offender who was a stranger (38 percent).”

Read the full report here, and its summary here.

3 Stats from the Department of Justice Disprove Racist Talking Points on Crime | Colorlines

So blacks in Africa have faced

No, Champ was right. All blacks have faced racism. Look, if you aren't black, shut the fuck up and listen because I am.

Vast majority of most crimes are committed by a person of the same race as the victim, Bureau of Justice Statistics reports.

The Justice Department’s statistics-crunching arm just blew up a whole stack of white-supremacist myths about the nature of interracial crime and violence committed by minorities.

In a report released Thursday titled Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-2015, the DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics found that a majority of most violent crimes are committed by people who are the same race as their victims. Indeed, the rate of white-on-white violent crime, it found, is about four times the rate of black-on-white crime.

White supremacists frequently like to manipulate crime statistics in order to claim that nonwhite minorities, particularly African-Americans, are far more crime-prone and the source of most violent crime against whites. Indeed, it is a core belief that this is the case, and many white nationalist ideologues — including politician and pundit Patrick Buchanan, Jared Taylor of American Renaissance, and the Council of Conservative Citizens — all have made considerable hay out of proffering “studies” laden with risibly bad statistics and other evidence to make their case.

The BJS study demonstrates plainly that this is simply not the case. Some 57 percent of crimes involving white victims were committed by white perpetrators, while only 15 percent were committed by blacks, and 11 percent by Hispanics. Black crime victims fell along similar racial lines, with 63 percent of the crimes committed by black perpetrators, while 11 percent were committed by whites, and 6.6 percent by Hispanics.

Overall, the BJS reported, “the percentage of intraracial [that is, same-race] victimization was higher than the percentage of interracial victimization for all types of violent crime except robbery.”

Moreover, it explained, “the rate of white-on-white violent crime (12.0 per 1,000) was about four times higher than black-on-white violent crime (3.1 per 1,000). The rate of black-on-black crime (16.5 per 1,000) was more than five times higher than white-on-black violent crime (2.8 per 1,000). The rate of Hispanic-on-Hispanic crime (8.3 per 1,000) was about double the rate of white-on-Hispanic (4.1 per 1,000) and black-on-Hispanic (4.2 per 1,000) violent crime.”

This is consistent with previously collected data, including a National Crime Victim Survey in 2000 that showed that 73 percent of white violent crime victims were attacked by whites, and 80 percent of black victims were targeted by blacks. This pattern is even clearer in the category of murder.

That hasn’t chastened the people promulgating the distorted statistics. Buchanan, citing Taylor’s fake statistics in 2007, wrote: “The real repository of racism in America — manifest in violent interracial assault, rape and murder — is to be found not in the white community, but the African-American community.”

Nor have the smears faded at all: In 2016, then-candidate Donald Trump retweeted a graphic that originated on a neo-Nazi website trotting out statistics mainly lifted from Taylor and the CofCC.

The false beliefs that arise from these smears have consequences, too: Dylann Roof, the domestic terrorist who killed nine members of a Charleston church’s black congregation in June 2015, shouted during the rampage at his victims his belief that they were “killing us.” In his manifesto, he specifically cited the CofCC’s website and Taylor’s smear pamphlet as the source of his information.

White supremacists' favorite myths about black crime rates take another hit from BJS study
White-on-White Crime
White on White Crime: The Statistic the Media Loves to Hide

3 Stats from the Department of Justice Disprove Racist Talking Points on Crime
Myths about Black and Latinx offenders disproportionately attacking White people may be titilating for White supremacists, but they are unsupported by the Bureau of Justice Statistics' new report.

President Donald Trump and his supporters who are White supremacists rely on rhetoric that accuses people of color—especially Blacks and Latinx—of disproportionately committing violent crimes against White targets. Those allegations guide the Trump administration’s calls to strengthen the force used by law enforcement agencies in cities and along the U.S.-Mexico border. But a recent report from the Trump administration’s own tough-on-crime Department of Justice (DOJ) rejects that premise.

The DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) numerically disproved people of color’s alleged criminality in ”Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-15,” which it released last Thursday (October 19). Using data from its National Crime Victimization Survey, the BJS puts a serious dent in race-baiting anti-crime arguments. The following three takeaways, among others, contradict the recurring claims about who actually assaults, murders or otherwise threatens White people:

1) White violent criminals disproportionately attack White victims.
“Among White victims, a higher percentage of victimizations were committed by white offenders (57 percent) than offenders of any other race. White victims perceived the offender to be Black in 15 percent of violent victimizations and Hispanic in 11 percent.”

2) White-on-White crime exceeds Latinx-on-Latinx crime rates, as well as those for crimes committed across races.
“During 2012-15, the rate of White-on-White violent crime (12.0 per 1,000 White persons) was about four times higher than Black-on-White violent crime (3.1 per 1,000). The rate of Black-on-Black violent crime (16.5 per 1,000 Black persons) was more than five times higher than White-on-Black violent crime (2.8 per 1,000). The rate of Hispanic-on-Hispanic violent crime (8.3 per 1,000 Hispanic persons) was about double the rate of White-on-Hispanic (4.1 per 1,000) and Black-on-Hispanic (4.2 per 1,000) violent crime. As with violent crime, the rates of serious violent crime and simple assault were higher for intraracial victimizations than interracial victimizations.”

3) White offenders are the group most likely to assault Black strangers.
“The percentage of violence committed against a Black victim by a white offender who was a stranger (50 percent) was higher than the percentage committed by a Black offender who was a stranger (38 percent).”

Read the full report here, and its summary here.

3 Stats from the Department of Justice Disprove Racist Talking Points on Crime | Colorlines

So blacks in Africa have faced racism from other blacks?

We are talking about America.

Sometimes I think crimes described as racist are really power struggles.

No, they are racist.

Like on Empire with all blacks? Wow! I could see Jussie Smollet, but not others.

The next troll post by you gets reported. I get tired of racists calling one of the rare shows with an all black cast compared to the decades that include right now of all white TV shows, racist.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I'll be more than happy to stomp a mudhole in your lying, disingenuous, crybaby, punk white ass.

No wonder USMB considers you their model poster, what with prose this elegant.

Now, as to the facts presented in the link I submitted, what is it you are claiming, again?​

 

[Third Party]

...and nothing at all about black men taking responsibility for the children they produce, taking responsibility for paying attention and not being disruptive in school, taking responsibility for developing a strong work ethic, taking responsibility for their behavior or taking responsibility for ANYTHING, really.


It's just more of that " listen to me while I blame you" attitude that keeps getting crammed down our collective throats here .

95 percent of these threads are blame blacks. The first paragraph you posted is a bunch of white racist bullshit. And because you actually believe this false bullshit, you are being shown how false it is.

IM2, I love your humor!

It's a shame that your mind is so fucked up.

So now let's get in the mud.

I am not going to be taking suggestions on what I am to talk about from a people that descended from individuals too fucking lazy to work free land you were given, who built as system excluding all others and now brag like it was a major accomplishment because they have more than anyone else, who father more out of wedlock children than blacks had children in total, who go into schools and shoot up other children, or have to be drugged with ritalin in order to not be a problem in school, who have the most people living generationally on welfare, started every world war, and maintains a flawed system based on a belief that because you have less of a chemical than someone else that makes you smarter.

Sorry, I don't believe your rants. Someone told me you are a white, a girl, and writing a paper on race baiting. Is any of that true?

Nobody told you that and I don't give a fuck about what you believe. And just to shut your retard ass before you come with the you didn't answer my question bullshit, the answer is

FUCK NO!

No need to shout-are you OK?

 

[flacaltenn]

“The first thing people see when they look at me is not a Pro Football Hall of Famer or a husband or a father. They view me first as a black man

It was a great statement. About being in fear for their kids and all that..Something YOU think only a Black person can say.. So kudos for bringing it up...

BUT -- It just gets a bit a dramatic to assume that WHITE people aren't USED to seeing black men at NFL HofF inductions... That's a bit heavy as a crutch.. Certainly, those thoughts don't cross minds at NBA HofF inductions..


But THEY MIGHT at an NHL induction...

 

[IM2]

I'll be more than happy to stomp a mudhole in your lying, disingenuous, crybaby, punk white ass.

No wonder USMB considers you their model poster, what with prose this elegant.

Now, as to the facts presented in the link I submitted, what is it you are claiming, again?​

You didn't present anything but a racist wives tale. Now go start a thread and I 'll be more than glad to shut down your racist fake news. You son, Barack Obama became president with a single mom. So did your favorite house n, Ben Carson. I can keep going but the thread topic isn't called answer to doggiedoos racist opinion on what blacks need. So start your own thread needle boy.

 

[IM2]

“The first thing people see when they look at me is not a Pro Football Hall of Famer or a husband or a father. They view me first as a black man

It was a great statement. About being in fear for their kids and all that..Something YOU think only a Black person can say.. So kudos for bringing it up...

BUT -- It just gets a bit a dramatic to assume that WHITE people aren't USED to seeing black men at NFL HofF inductions... That's a bit heavy as a crutch.. Certainly, those thoughts don't cross minds at NBA HofF inductions..


But THEY MIGHT at an NHL induction...

We are in fear for our children getting killed by a cop. Another white here at USMB who purposefully missed his message to insert their idiot opinion about blacks.

 

[flacaltenn]

“The first thing people see when they look at me is not a Pro Football Hall of Famer or a husband or a father. They view me first as a black man

It was a great statement. About being in fear for their kids and all that..Something YOU think only a Black person can say.. So kudos for bringing it up...

BUT -- It just gets a bit a dramatic to assume that WHITE people aren't USED to seeing black men at NFL HofF inductions... That's a bit heavy as a crutch.. Certainly, those thoughts don't cross minds at NBA HofF inductions..


But THEY MIGHT at an NHL induction...

We are in fear for our children getting killed by a cop. Another white here at USMB who purposefully missed his message to insert their idiot opinion about blacks.

Statistics say, in most places, the kids are in far greater danger from other "kids"....

I agreed with the statement and you STILL FIND reason to race bait me...

This ain't gonna work.. You need a couple of these and a good street corner..

Preferably a lily white corner...

 

[IM2]

“The first thing people see when they look at me is not a Pro Football Hall of Famer or a husband or a father. They view me first as a black man

It was a great statement. About being in fear for their kids and all that..Something YOU think only a Black person can say.. So kudos for bringing it up...

BUT -- It just gets a bit a dramatic to assume that WHITE people aren't USED to seeing black men at NFL HofF inductions... That's a bit heavy as a crutch.. Certainly, those thoughts don't cross minds at NBA HofF inductions..


But THEY MIGHT at an NHL induction...

We are in fear for our children getting killed by a cop. Another white here at USMB who purposefully missed his message to insert their idiot opinion about blacks.

Statistics say, in most places, the kids are in far greater danger from other "kids"....

I agreed with the statement and you STILL FIND reason to race bait me...

This ain't gonna work.. You need a couple of these and a good street corner..

Preferably a lily white corner...

Race bait my ass. I have bought legitimate issues of white racism, white racial preferences, white privilege and racist law and policy made by whites along with the damage they have created and in every instance you call it race baiting.

What Champ Bailey said that you didn't want to see in order to throw your little racist jab, was that whites need to start listening. Sound familiar?

Because that's what I have been saying to you damn near from the start.

 

[IM2]

I'll be more than happy to stomp a mudhole in your lying, disingenuous, crybaby, punk white ass.

No wonder USMB considers you their model poster, what with prose this elegant.

Now, as to the facts presented in the link I submitted, what is it you are claiming, again?​

You didn't present anything but a racist wives tale. Now go start a thread and I 'll be more than glad to shut down your racist fake news. You son, Barack Obama became president with a single mom. So did your favorite house n, Ben Carson. I can keep going but the thread topic isn't called answer to doggiedoos racist opinion on what blacks need. So start your own thread needle boy.

"Racist wives tales."

.....and from a black web site, no less.

Should I tell the folks at afro.com that they are a racist site? They might be a little surprised.

Your opinion is what I am talking about. You're try to use number from the census department to make a claim that is simply a racist wives tale. And it has nothing to do with the OP about a black father who is married to the mother of his children. Start a thread or stay out of this one

 

[AveryJarhman]

Last night was the NFL Hall of Fame Induction ceremony. This is the pinnacle of the sport. It is the highest achievement they can get.

Champ Bailey, one of the greatest corners to ever play was one of the inductees The first 30 minutes of his speech was the standard hall of fame speech, where he thankedceverybody that helped him along the way, once again proving that no one individual or group has done anything alone.

But it was the last minute or 2 that made this speech as legendary as the player himself.

“Tonight, I thanked many people who supported my career and many of you are my closest friends,” Bailey said. “Some of you are also considered experts of the game as much as I am. Out of the people I mentioned tonight, most of you are black men. My brothers. Some of you are athletes and some of you are non-athletes, but we are all black men first. It’s something we have more expertise in than any aspect of our lives. I’m a firm believer that if you want to create change, you better start with your friends and your family. So I’m starting here today.

“The first thing people see when they look at me is not a Pro Football Hall of Famer or a husband or a father. They view me first as a black man. So, on behalf of all the black men that I mentioned tonight, and many more out there who’ve had the same experiences that I’ve had in my lifetime, we say this to all of our white friends: When we tell you about our fears, please listen. When we tell you we’re afraid for our kids, please listen. When we tell you there are many challenges we face because of the color of our skin, please listen. And please don’t get caught up in how the message is delivered. Yes, most of us are athletes, but we are black men first. Understand this. Things that make us great on the field, like our size and our aggression, are the same things that can get us killed off the field.

“I believe if we start listening, there’s no telling the progress we can make. All of us are dads, sons, brothers, your friends. We all understand that if we can’t get our friends to listen, then no one will. And to my black brothers, if you do not have anything positive to say about our social challenges, please keep your mouth shut.”

Champ Bailey closes Hall of Fame speech with strong statement on race relations

Please listen to Bailey, Charles Barkley.

Hello, IM2. If I had an opportunity to chat about race relations in America with apparent PRO BLACK practicing Roland "Champ" Bailey Jr., I'd ask the exact same questions that repeatedly I've asked you and other PRO BLACK practicing USMB members to consider.

​

IM2, Do you believe Champ Bailey has the courage to reply to these questions, or is he just like you, a man lacking the character and integrity to discuss serious mental HEALTH and social issues affecting Americans in the 21st century?

Peace.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Where are all the Asian NFL players?

 

[AveryJarhman]

Responding to another member's question about single parenting, PRO BLACK practicing IM2 wrote,

Here are two things to consider:

First, there are a growing number of people who live together but don’t marry. Those mothers are still single, even though the child’s father may be in the home. And, as The Washington Post reported last year:

“The share of unmarried couples who opted to have ‘shotgun cohabitations’ — moving in together after a pregnancy — surpassed ‘shotgun marriages’ for the first time during the last decade, according to a forthcoming paper from the National Center for Health Statistics, part of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.”

Hi, IM2. What is your opinion of Ms. Jazzyslim ostracizing women for intentionally introducing large numbers of children and teens to a FATHERLESS life?

Is Ms. Jazzyslim spreading propaganda?

"Lamenting Multiple Baby Daddies" ~Jazzyslim2005


____
Originally published on Jun 19, 2012 by jazzyslim2005

"On the Couch #4: Black Women Ain't Sh**...."

Opinion | Black Dads Are Doing Best of All

Shut up before your punk ass gets further embarrassed.

IM2, are you aware PRO BLACK practicing Childhood Trauma and Child Sexual Abuse victim Charles Blow, author of the NYTIMES article on dads, was raised by a single mother who failed to protect her 7-yr-old son from being sexually abused?



Peace.