Please, A Little Honesty about Illegal Immigration

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    Honesty? Here's the plan...

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    Asking for honesty in any debate is difficult unfortunately.
     
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    All illegal aliens are criminals. Call it anything you wish to call it but they committed a criminal act by entering the US unlawfully. Our government doesn't seem to care. If they truly cared about illegal aliens being in this country, they would deport them all. The reason nothing is being done? Simple. All illegal aliens are potential Democratic voters because it's the Democrats who coddle them the most.
     
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    All criminals.shipem in a box truck back....
     
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    If candidates need illegal votes,tells me they dont have much validity with the populous.
     
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    When we pass Schumer/Graham and get a true work/SS card and enforcement on EMPLOYERS, we'll have a solution. Useless unconstitutional/harassment laws and and fence are just Pub distractions from the fact they actually love illegal cheap labor. ENFORCE ILLEGAL LABOR LAWS.
     
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    It's no wonder that the author has to plead for a little honesty, since he yet lacks it.

    The crux of his argument is that the Obama administration plans to focus its deportation efforts on illegal immigrants who have committed crimes, which suggests that the Obama administration does not consider illegal immigration itself a crime. It's difficult to say, since he does not cite any particular statement, but he seems to be referring to this administration policy: Obama Administration Curtails Deportations of Non-Criminal Immigrants - ABC News. In it, the focus is given as being on persons convicted of crimes. Regardless of whether crossing the border illegally is a crime, it is certainly not a conviction.

    Regardless of the author's specious logic, the administration does take the position that being in the country illegally is a civil matter. This is both black letter law and widely acknowledged by less liberal members of the body politic (Christie clarifies: 'Illegal' immigrants are in civil violation | NJ.com). If ICE detains an undocumented immigrant they would have to prove that he or she crossed the border illegally (generally a practical impossibility) even to charge him or her with a misdemeanor.
     
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    What a Joke, The have a whole country south of us and they have run the fucker into the Ground, In fact most of the Mexican Americans I personally know would not want to see Mexico "take back" the west. Why would they, The Fled Mexico for a reason.

    On a side not, I get really pissed when people talk like we "stole" Texas from Mexico. You can make that argument about the Rest of the American South West all you want, but not Texas. Texas fought a war of Independence from an Oppressive Regime and won. It then willing gave up that Independence to join this Union. So if Texas needs to go back to Mexico, then the Entire US needs to be returned to England and the Other European Powers who once controlled it. As we did exactly what Texas did.
     

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