People Attempted To Break Into Federal Courthouse And Lit Fires Downtown

[Correll]

People Attempted To Break Into Federal Courthouse And Lit Fires Downtown​

People attempted to break into Federal Courthouse and lit fires downtown

On July 20, 2020 large groups of people gathered in downtown Portland in Chapman Square Park and Lownsdale Square Park and in Waterfront Park near the Salmon Springs Fountain. At about 9:00 p.m. the c...

www.portlandoregon.gov

21 Jul 2020
On July 20, 2020 large groups of people gathered in downtown Portland in Chapman Square Park and Lownsdale Square Park and in Waterfront Park near the Salmon Springs Fountain. At about 9:00 p.m. the crowds converged on SW 3rd Avenue outside the Justice Center and gave speeches. Cars, motorcycles and bicycles blocked streets around the crowd.
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Several hundred people concentrated on the west side of the Federal Courthouse and dozens of them pounded on and began breaking the plywood covering the west side of the building. People were using hammers, crowbars and other pry tools. Many people could be seen carrying bats and shields, people wore helmets and gas masks. At about 12:45 a.m. on July 21, 2020, people broke through the plywood outside the courthouse and started pounding windows with metal objects, breaking at least one window. Hundreds of people were packed tightly in the portico on the west side of the courthouse pushing toward the entrance.

Comment:
This is not the description of "peaceful assembly" which is guaranteed by the Constitution and it's amendments to the Bill of Rights. This is physical mob anarchy. When local political and Law authorites fail to protect it's citizens, the Federal government has no choice but to send law authority to assist and succor to those citizens under attack.
We now have open violent rebellion within cities like Portland, Seattle, Chicago, New York and Philadelphia while politicians (Democrats All) have decided that they will allow anarchy and mob rule to predominate.
The Governors and Mayors of these Blue Plantation cities have abrogated their authority to #Antifa and #BLM causing violence, deaths to citizens, arson, destruction of property and businesses. This is intolerable and Preisdent Trump has no choice in the matter but to protect federal facilities under attack.

Probably the federal”officers” who are there purposely starting trouble

your support of open insurrection, is likely to get people killed. or should i say, more people killed.

 

[Mac-7]

He can pull out all federal agents and let Portland burn, including the federal courthouse. And when it's over he can have his DOJ sue the city of Portland for their failure to protect federal property.

Is that how you want to see America operate?

Burned out cities, the economy in shambles but teams of opposing lawyers squabbling with each other inside a court house?

Not me

 

[task0778]

He can pull out all federal agents and let Portland burn, including the federal courthouse. And when it's over he can have his DOJ sue the city of Portland for their failure to protect federal property.

Is that how you want to see America operate?

Burned out cities, the economy in shambles but teams of opposing lawyers squabbling with each other inside a court house?

Not me

You cannot have the federal gov't illegally usurping state functions, otherwise we become a nation of men rather than laws. It's one thing to defend federal property or arrest those who are breaking federal laws, but it's quite another to arrest somebody who is NOT attacking federal property or who is not breaking federal law. Now, the Insurrection Act allows the president to act if the local mayor or governor asks for help or the situation becomes so dire that it is out of their control. But that is not the case in Portland or anywhere else where riots have been going on for 2 months now. They COULD be doing something about it but WON'T. So, IMHO fuck 'em. I don't want one single federal agent harmed or killed as a result of cowardly, political bullshit. Elections have consequences, and this is one of them. If you're going to continually elect democrats to run your cities and states, then that's on you rather than the rest of us if they won't protect you and your property.

 

[Polishprince]

He can pull out all federal agents and let Portland burn, including the federal courthouse. And when it's over he can have his DOJ sue the city of Portland for their failure to protect federal property.

Is that how you want to see America operate?

Burned out cities, the economy in shambles but teams of opposing lawyers squabbling with each other inside a court house?

Not me

You cannot have the federal gov't illegally usurping state functions, otherwise we become a nation of men rather than laws. It's one thing to defend federal property or arrest those who are breaking federal laws, but it's quite another to arrest somebody who is NOT attacking federal property or who is not breaking federal law. Now, the Insurrection Act allows the president to act if the local mayor or governor asks for help or the situation becomes so dire that it is out of their control. But that is not the case in Portland or anywhere else where riots have been going on for 2 months now. They COULD be doing something about it but WON'T. So, IMHO fuck 'em. I don't want one single federal agent harmed or killed as a result of cowardly, political bullshit. Elections have consequences, and this is one of them. If you're going to continually elect democrats to run your cities and states, then that's on you rather than the rest of us if they won't protect you and your property.

I tend to agree with you on this to a point.


But I would expect that the NYC city hall would respond by stating " you don't knead to do this, we got this under control" and then proceed to bust heads and bring the BLM and Antifa to heel.

Not by suing for their "right to maintain chaos".

 

[justinacolmena]

your support of open insurrection, is likely to get people killed. or should i say, more people killed.

The federal troops presently deployed are under the direction of a extreme left-wing Democratic Party Department of Justice in a liberal pro-prostitution, pro-marijuana, pro-gun-control district, and are more likely to be on the side of the insurrection rather than the U.S. Constitution.

The "Wall of Moms" linking arms with other "moms" are lesbians. The dads with the leaf blowers are gay men. Do we need to spell it out any further? The federal courthouse and the department of justice are precisely where all that sex-segregated gay parenting comes from.

Men with men raising children if they obtained custody in federal court from the lesbian women they divorced. Oregon has sealed adoption records whereby children who have been adopted cannot obtain birth certificates or passports when they reach the age of majority. Portland is not a district to have a polite, congenial, or non-sexual discussion or conversation with anybody of the opposite sex, unless you want to face criminal charges, whereas wholesale rape and prostitution are 100% legal, as long as the gentleman pays out of pocket. The federal courthouse obviously has not been helping with any of that.

 

[Mac-7]

You cannot have the federal gov't illegally usurping state functions, otherwise we become a nation of men rather than laws.

It is not illegal for the federal government to step in when the states are not doing their job

 

[Mac-7]

He can pull out all federal agents and let Portland burn, including the federal courthouse. And when it's over he can have his DOJ sue the city of Portland for their failure to protect federal property.

Is that how you want to see America operate?

Burned out cities, the economy in shambles but teams of opposing lawyers squabbling with each other inside a court house?

Not me

You cannot have the federal gov't illegally usurping state functions, otherwise we become a nation of men rather than laws. It's one thing to defend federal property or arrest those who are breaking federal laws, but it's quite another to arrest somebody who is NOT attacking federal property or who is not breaking federal law. Now, the Insurrection Act allows the president to act if the local mayor or governor asks for help or the situation becomes so dire that it is out of their control. But that is not the case in Portland or anywhere else where riots have been going on for 2 months now. They COULD be doing something about it but WON'T. So, IMHO fuck 'em. I don't want one single federal agent harmed or killed as a result of cowardly, political bullshit. Elections have consequences, and this is one of them. If you're going to continually elect democrats to run your cities and states, then that's on you rather than the rest of us if they won't protect you and your property.

As a taxpayer you will have to pay for all the damage Portland does to itself

 

[task0778]

He can pull out all federal agents and let Portland burn, including the federal courthouse. And when it's over he can have his DOJ sue the city of Portland for their failure to protect federal property.

Is that how you want to see America operate?

Burned out cities, the economy in shambles but teams of opposing lawyers squabbling with each other inside a court house?

Not me

You cannot have the federal gov't illegally usurping state functions, otherwise we become a nation of men rather than laws. It's one thing to defend federal property or arrest those who are breaking federal laws, but it's quite another to arrest somebody who is NOT attacking federal property or who is not breaking federal law. Now, the Insurrection Act allows the president to act if the local mayor or governor asks for help or the situation becomes so dire that it is out of their control. But that is not the case in Portland or anywhere else where riots have been going on for 2 months now. They COULD be doing something about it but WON'T. So, IMHO fuck 'em. I don't want one single federal agent harmed or killed as a result of cowardly, political bullshit. Elections have consequences, and this is one of them. If you're going to continually elect democrats to run your cities and states, then that's on you rather than the rest of us if they won't protect you and your property.

As a taxpayer you will have to pay for all the damage Portland does to itself

How so, I don't live in Portland or even in Oregon.

 

[mascale]

In the absence of a disaster declaration request, it is more likely that the federal government cannot send in aid on some random basis. I might like the federal government to send me all of the $2.5 tril. deficit dollars--but a basis for even making the request has no precedent, even--except in asylums, and RNC meeting rooms and offices. Even the Insurrection is only about active military or National Guard responses.

The police union would wonder why border patrol police were being sent to Portland, and did. That easily sows confusion into the local population about what is happening--and into state and local officials. In the confusion: Many might wonder if they were under attack, grab the AK-47's from underneath the wildlife trophies, and rush-out hunting-gear ready, and equipped!

They would want to go after that elk, even if it killed them(?): And especially if it had the nukes(?)! (You can be left to wonder what some people see--that others cannot(?)!) (On that subject, there is post #45, above--what Trump likely sees(?)!)
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As currently worded, the Insurrection Act allows the president to call up the active military or federalize the National Guard under three circumstances:

• At the request of a state. That's how it was most recently used, when Pete Wilson, then the governor of California, asked for federal help in 1992 to control violent protests after police officers were acquitted in the attack on Rodney King.
• To enforce federal law. In 1987, President Ronald Reagan ordered the Defense Department to provide military units to help suppress violence at a federal prison in Atlanta. The disturbance was over before the troops arrived.
• To protect civil rights. This provision authorizes the president to use the military to suppress "any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy" if local law enforcement is unable to provide sufficient protection. It doesn't require the request — or even the permission — of the state. President Dwight D. Eisenhower used the power to send elements of the 101st Airborne Division to Little Rock, Arkansas, and to federalize the entire state National Guard to enforce court-ordered school desegregation. Presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson invoked the same authority to enforce other desegregation orders in Mississippi and Alabama.

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"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(At prayer--many don't see this--Matt 25: 14-30--unless they do?!

 

[justinacolmena]

It is not illegal for the federal government to step in when the states are not doing their job

No it is not. But they have underestimated the extent to which the federal court system has been invaded by local-yokel city hall.

As a taxpayer you will have to pay for all the damage Portland does to itself

This is true. Think about the U.S. Army, which has goals and objectives. Whenever we go to war, we end up having to pay for the waste and destruction we wreak on the enemy, one way or another. Reconstruction after the Civil War was not cheap. Rebuilding Afghanistan after the war was not cheap, and is still ongoing. Sometimes it is inevitable, some institutions have been overbuilt to evil over the years and must be destroyed and laid to waste ...

 

[Mac-7]

As a taxpayer you will have to pay for all the damage Portland does to itself

Portland will request federal relief money

if trump is reelected they MIGHT get turned down

But if biden wins portland will cash in

 

[mascale]

Federal Police were not envisioned in the Insurrection Act. Confusion was not intended the outcome of the Insurrection Act.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!
((At prayer--many don't see this--Matt 25: 14-30--unless they do?!)

 

[justinacolmena]

Federal Police were not envisioned in the Insurrection Act.

They are essentially military military already. DHS really needs to be disbanded, and incorporated under military leadership as regular troops.

Confusion was not intended the outcome of the Insurrection Act.

No, it was not. At that time, essentially all policing powers over civilians and private citizens were state and local. But state and local authorities nowadays have banded together with federal DHS, NSA fusion centers, etc., etc., to impose a fascist anti-constitutional system of government and law enforcement foreign to our Constitution.

 

[asaratis]

Portland needs someone like Bronson to move in, someone who won't be pushed

Actually, Portland needs only to bring in the fire buses. Not only can they be used to put out small fires around the court house, they have the ability to wash the protestors down the drain...and give them concussions when their heads hit the pavement.