Paul Ryan, third Worst Republican in the World!!

[NYcarbineer]

Again, one should never govern via polls, but with dismal numbers like that a re-examination of the message wouldn’t be a bad idea.

In Conservatopia,

Unpopular is the new popular.

 

[uscitizen]

considering the current finiancial sutuation routing tax dollars to private industry is the only way to increase coprorate profits.
This IS what Ryan is all about on this.

 

[Seawytch]

All that means is that the DNC propaganda organs have attempted to demonize Ryan. He is therefore one of the best Republicans in the world

And you should absolutely, positively, 100% go with that. I think you should call your representative and strongly encourage him or her to embrace the budget Munster's plan with open arms!

 

[Sarah G]

And the funny thing is..they won the midterms by convincing everyone that the Obama plan would ration medical care...which would basically kill people.

Funny thing is..Conservative Hero Governor Jan Brewer really did that. And it killed two people.

To the cheers and applauds of Conservatives.

WTF are you babbling about?

What part didn't you get?

 

[FiscalSanity]

Swallow,

I haven't seen the real numbers that are actually in the bill, so I can't have a complete opinion yet. Whether his cuts are the rights one or not isn't the issue-the issue is that finally we have some politicians willing to at least talk about real cuts. Based on what I've seen of the CBO analysis of the plan it still needs some work. It would deliver in terms of cutting federal healthcare spending, but I think there may be some better ways to go about it. One way or the other SOME kind of major cuts have to occur though, no matter what anyone might want you to believe,

Anyone who has bothered to listen to a word the former head of the GAO (David Walker) has said in the last 10 years know that we're in a world of hurt when it comes to social security and medicare, and that the politicians aren't going to be able to fix the problems in either system without making some serious cuts. Raising taxes won't fix the system in the long term, it will just kick the problem down the road an extra decade.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Ryan himself isn't particularly important, as his destructive ideas have become the official party line. With a handful of exceptions, they all want to dismantle Medicare.

... with a new Bloomberg poll finding 57 percent of Americans believe they would be worse off under his plan.

Only 34 percent said they would be better off if Congress replaced “traditional Medicare” with a program to purchase private insurance with government subsidies, as Ryan has proposed.

That's a good point. I wonder if most people who view Ryan and his policies unfavorably realize that the entire Republican caucus in the House voted FOR his policies.

 

[mudwhistle]

We can either afford to keep killling people or helping people but not both.
The choice is there, but most are too afraid to make it.

Well then tell Obama that dropping bombs on Libyans isn't the way to go.

Personally I think we need to pull out of Afghanistan and let NATO take care of Libya.

Both are sucking billions that we could be using to pay off the debt.

 

[Jroc]

Of course he's unpopular. Nobody ever like the person who stands up and says "look, we can't keep spending money like this anymore". Nobody ever wants to cut back, and the person who tells you that you have no choice is usually the one you end up being mad at, even though they didn't create the situation.

No politican has been willing to offer any serious ideas on medicare/medicaid for decades, because they all know that the only way to fix it is going to be to make unpopular cuts. Whether you like Ryan or not you have to give hime Kudo's for putting his political future on the line to try and get this problem fixed.

They are not "cuts" it's called restructuring, so as to keep the programs and make them sustainable Obama cut Medicare by 500 billion dollars the libs seem to for get that or they are too busy slamming people that rare actually trying to save the programs and our country for that matter.

 

[Sarah G]

Ryan himself isn't particularly important, as his destructive ideas have become the official party line. With a handful of exceptions, they all want to dismantle Medicare.

... with a new Bloomberg poll finding 57 percent of Americans believe they would be worse off under his plan.

Only 34 percent said they would be better off if Congress replaced “traditional Medicare” with a program to purchase private insurance with government subsidies, as Ryan has proposed.

And I hope the Democrats pound on this fact in their campaign ads. America needs to know what Republican plans really are.

 

[uscitizen]

Adding another level of private profit making industry into Medicare will be cheaper?

 

[Jroc]

This is a good laugh.

Poll: Ryan 3rd-most-disliked GOPer


Democrats are winning the messaging war on Paul Ryan's bid to overhaul Medicare.

By REID J. EPSTEIN | 6/23/11 7:29 AM EDT Updated: 6/24/11 5:13 AM EDT

Democrats are winning the messaging war on Rep. Paul Ryan’s bid to overhaul Medicare, with a new Bloomberg poll finding 57 percent of Americans believe they would be worse off under his plan.

Only 34 percent said they would be better off if Congress replaced “traditional Medicare” with a program to purchase private insurance with government subsidies, as Ryan has proposed.

The poll also found Ryan is now the nation’s third most disliked Republican, with net unfavorable ratings that trail only former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.

The conservative's favorite rising star, lol. Hey, we tried to tell you...

Poll: Ryan 3rd-most-disliked GOPer - Reid J. Epstein - POLITICO.com

He's only third worst because nobody knows who he is. If they did, he'd have first place easily.

And the funny thing is..they won the midterms by convincing everyone that the Obama plan would ration medical care...which would basically kill people.

Funny thing is..Conservative Hero Governor Jan Brewer really did that. And it killed two people.

To the cheers and applauds of Conservatives.

Wrong idiot they won becouse Obama is driving us to bankruptcy.

 

[bripat9643]

Adding another level of private profit making industry into Medicare will be cheaper?

Yes. Can you name one thing that government does cheaper than private industry?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Rule for Radicals. Don't discuss the ideas or the debate the program. Make one guy the face of your opposition, and destroy him.

Medicare is heading down the tubes. Either we fix it, or it will put us in a fix. The democrats aren't interested in arguing the plus or minus of the program, only arguing Paul Ryan.

Meanwhile, the economy goes the way of Greece.

I'd much rather make the entire GOP the 'face of the opposition', since killing Medicare is a GOP plan,

not a Paul Ryan plan.

Medicare, btw, has always been subject to predictions of its insolvency ever since it got underway. Like any other long term enterprise, of course it needs adjustments over time.

Taking it out behind the barn and shooting it is not an adjustment.

 

[uscitizen]

Adding another level of private profit making industry into Medicare will be cheaper?

Yes. Can you name one thing that government does cheaper than private industry?

Strange that you should bring that up. Yes administer the Medicare program cheaper than private insurance companies.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Adding another level of private profit making industry into Medicare will be cheaper?

Yes. Can you name one thing that government does cheaper than private industry?

Yes. Medicare.

 

[bripat9643]

Adding another level of private profit making industry into Medicare will be cheaper?

Yes. Can you name one thing that government does cheaper than private industry?

Strange that you should bring that up. Yes administer the Medicare program cheaper than private insurance companies.

So government can manage organized plunder better than a private corporation?

And you think that makes government better?

That's like saying thieves do better job of cleaning out a bank vault than the bank employees.

That doesn't impress anyone.

The cost of Medicare is higher than a system of private insurance free from government micromanagement. That's because Medicare provides no incentive to control costs.

 

[uscitizen]

Yes. Can you name one thing that government does cheaper than private industry?

Strange that you should bring that up. Yes administer the Medicare program cheaper than private insurance companies.

So government can manage organized plunder better than a private corporation?

And you think that makes government better?

That's like saying thieves do better job of cleaning out a bank vault than the bank employees.

That doesn't impress anyone.

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[bripat9643]

Adding another level of private profit making industry into Medicare will be cheaper?

Yes. Can you name one thing that government does cheaper than private industry?

Yes. Medicare.

Wrong. There is no private sector equivalent to organized plunder.

 

[uscitizen]

You would prefer disorganized plunder?

 

[Greenbeard]

Course Obama lies about what the Ryan Plan does.

No current Senior will see a change in Medicare, but those under 55 will see a change.

Given that the Republican budget would repeal the ACA and slash Medicaid (which does intersect with Medicare for 9 million dual eligibles), that's a false statement. They're not forced out of public coverage--at least in the proposal--but they do see changes to the program.

Yes. Can you name one thing that government does cheaper than private industry?

Strange that you should bring that up. Yes administer the Medicare program cheaper than private insurance companies.

Medicare is also the most accurate major payer in the United States:

Meanwhile, claims processing errors by commercial insurers are tacking on billions in unnecessary administrative costs every year.