NYcarbineer
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Again, one should never govern via polls, but with dismal numbers like that a re-examination of the message wouldnt be a bad idea.
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Again, one should never govern via polls, but with dismal numbers like that a re-examination of the message wouldnt be a bad idea.
All that means is that the DNC propaganda organs have attempted to demonize Ryan. He is therefore one of the best Republicans in the world
And the funny thing is..they won the midterms by convincing everyone that the Obama plan would ration medical care...which would basically kill people.
Funny thing is..Conservative Hero Governor Jan Brewer really did that. And it killed two people.
To the cheers and applauds of Conservatives.
WTF are you babbling about?
What part didn't you get?
Ryan himself isn't particularly important, as his destructive ideas have become the official party line. With a handful of exceptions, they all want to dismantle Medicare.
NYcarbineer said:... with a new Bloomberg poll finding 57 percent of Americans believe they would be worse off under his plan.
Only 34 percent said they would be better off if Congress replaced traditional Medicare with a program to purchase private insurance with government subsidies, as Ryan has proposed.
We can either afford to keep killling people or helping people but not both.
The choice is there, but most are too afraid to make it.
Of course he's unpopular. Nobody ever like the person who stands up and says "look, we can't keep spending money like this anymore". Nobody ever wants to cut back, and the person who tells you that you have no choice is usually the one you end up being mad at, even though they didn't create the situation.
No politican has been willing to offer any serious ideas on medicare/medicaid for decades, because they all know that the only way to fix it is going to be to make unpopular cuts. Whether you like Ryan or not you have to give hime Kudo's for putting his political future on the line to try and get this problem fixed.
Ryan himself isn't particularly important, as his destructive ideas have become the official party line. With a handful of exceptions, they all want to dismantle Medicare.
NYcarbineer said:... with a new Bloomberg poll finding 57 percent of Americans believe they would be worse off under his plan.
Only 34 percent said they would be better off if Congress replaced traditional Medicare with a program to purchase private insurance with government subsidies, as Ryan has proposed.
This is a good laugh.
Poll: Ryan 3rd-most-disliked GOPer
Democrats are winning the messaging war on Paul Ryan's bid to overhaul Medicare.
By REID J. EPSTEIN | 6/23/11 7:29 AM EDT Updated: 6/24/11 5:13 AM EDT
Democrats are winning the messaging war on Rep. Paul Ryans bid to overhaul Medicare, with a new Bloomberg poll finding 57 percent of Americans believe they would be worse off under his plan.
Only 34 percent said they would be better off if Congress replaced traditional Medicare with a program to purchase private insurance with government subsidies, as Ryan has proposed.
The poll also found Ryan is now the nations third most disliked Republican, with net unfavorable ratings that trail only former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.
The conservative's favorite rising star, lol. Hey, we tried to tell you...
Poll: Ryan 3rd-most-disliked GOPer - Reid J. Epstein - POLITICO.com
He's only third worst because nobody knows who he is. If they did, he'd have first place easily.
And the funny thing is..they won the midterms by convincing everyone that the Obama plan would ration medical care...which would basically kill people.
Funny thing is..Conservative Hero Governor Jan Brewer really did that. And it killed two people.
To the cheers and applauds of Conservatives.
Adding another level of private profit making industry into Medicare will be cheaper?
Rule for Radicals. Don't discuss the ideas or the debate the program. Make one guy the face of your opposition, and destroy him.
Medicare is heading down the tubes. Either we fix it, or it will put us in a fix. The democrats aren't interested in arguing the plus or minus of the program, only arguing Paul Ryan.
Meanwhile, the economy goes the way of Greece.
Adding another level of private profit making industry into Medicare will be cheaper?
Yes. Can you name one thing that government does cheaper than private industry?
Adding another level of private profit making industry into Medicare will be cheaper?
Yes. Can you name one thing that government does cheaper than private industry?
Adding another level of private profit making industry into Medicare will be cheaper?
Yes. Can you name one thing that government does cheaper than private industry?
Strange that you should bring that up. Yes administer the Medicare program cheaper than private insurance companies.
Yes. Can you name one thing that government does cheaper than private industry?
Strange that you should bring that up. Yes administer the Medicare program cheaper than private insurance companies.
So government can manage organized plunder better than a private corporation?
And you think that makes government better?
That's like saying thieves do better job of cleaning out a bank vault than the bank employees.
That doesn't impress anyone.
Adding another level of private profit making industry into Medicare will be cheaper?
Yes. Can you name one thing that government does cheaper than private industry?
Yes. Medicare.
Course Obama lies about what the Ryan Plan does.
No current Senior will see a change in Medicare, but those under 55 will see a change.
Yes. Can you name one thing that government does cheaper than private industry?
Strange that you should bring that up. Yes administer the Medicare program cheaper than private insurance companies.