Part (3) The True Democrat!

Over a year ago I beat this little OCDGirl into the ground over this, I REPEAT it here for the uninformed, and to bitch slap OCDPogo again... and THIS from that stalwart of conservative thinking...PBS!!!!!!

"At the time of Ulysses S. Grant's election to the presidency, white supremacists were conducting a reign of terror throughout the South. In outright defiance of the Republican-led federal government, Southern Democrats formed organizations that violently intimidated blacks and Republicans who tried to win political power.

The most prominent of these, the Ku Klux Klan, was formed in Pulaski, Tennessee, in 1865. Originally founded as a social club for former Confederate soldiers, the Klan evolved into a terrorist organization. It would be responsible for thousands of deaths, and would help to weaken the political power of Southern blacks and Republicans."

WGBH American Experience . U.S. Grant: Warrior | PBS


Pissyante still valiantly holding on to his one bogus link even after getting ass whupped in the past.
Masochism... I just don't get it. Oh well, you asked for it, here it cometh:.
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First KKK
>> The first Klan was founded in 1865 in Pulaski, Tennessee, by six veterans of the Confederate Army.[17] The name is probably derived from the Greek word kuklos which means circle, suggesting a circle or band of brothers.[18]

Although there was little organizational structure above the local level, similar groups rose across the South and adopted the same name and methods.[19] Klan groups spread throughout the South as an insurgent movement during the Reconstruction era in the United States. As a secret vigilante group, the Klan targeted freedmen and their allies; it sought to restore white supremacy by threats and violence, including murder, against black and white Republicans.

Second KKK
... In 1915, the second Klan was founded in Atlanta, Georgia. Starting in 1921, it adopted a modern business system of recruiting (which paid most of the initiation fee and costume charges as commissions to the organizers) and grew rapidly nationwide at a time of prosperity. Reflecting the social tensions of urban industrialization and vastly increased immigration, its membership grew most rapidly in cities, and spread out of the South to the Midwest and West. The second KKK preached "One Hundred Percent Americanism" and demanded the purification of politics, calling for strict morality and better enforcement of prohibition. Its official rhetoric focused on the threat of the Catholic Church, using anti-Catholicism and nativism.[4] Its appeal was directed exclusively at white Protestants.[21]​

...Third KKK
The "Ku Klux Klan" name was used by a numerous independent local groups opposing the Civil Rights Movement and desegregation, especially in the 1950s and 1960s. During this period, they often forged alliances with Southern police departments, as in Birmingham, Alabama; or with governor's offices, as with George Wallace of Alabama.[25] Several members of KKK groups were convicted of murder in the deaths of civil rights workers and children in the bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham. << (Wiki)

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The Present Day Ku Klux Klan Movement, Report by the Committee on Un-American Activities, House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, First Session, December 11, 1967

>> The six Confederate army veterans credited with originating the Ku Klux Klan on Christmas Eve of 1865 in Pulaski, Tenn. are not memorialized in current klan literature. ... The organization to which modern klansmen pay homage was the Ku Klux Klan headed by Nathan Bedford Forrest, which officially operated in at least nine Southern states from 1867 to 1869 and unofficially for some years thereafter.

The conversion of klan purposes from amusement to terrorism had already been demonstrated by the time representatives of the local klan "dens" held a unifying convention in Nashville, Tenn., in 1867 and elected former Confederate Army General Forrest as their grand wizard. << (two...)
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Extremism in America/ADL

>> About the Ku Klux Klan
The Ku Klux Klan is a racist, anti-Semitic movement with a commitment to extreme violence to achieve its goals of racial segregation and white supremacy.
... At first, the Ku Klux Klan focused its anger and violence on African-Americans, on white Americans who stood up for them, and against the federal government which supported their rights. Subsequent incarnations of the Klan, which typically emerged in times of rapid social change, added more categories to its enemies list, including Jews, Catholics (less so after the 1970s), homosexuals, and different groups of immigrants.


Founder: Confederate Civil War veterans Captain John C. Lester, Major James R. Crowe, John D. Kennedy, Calvin Jones, Richard R. Reed, Frank O. McCord << (three....)
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In Pulaski, Tennessee, a group of Confederate veterans convenes to form a secret society that they christen the "Ku Klux Klan." The KKK rapidly grew from a secret social fraternity to a paramilitary force bent on reversing the federal government's progressive Reconstruction Era-activities in the South, especially policies that elevated the rights of the local African American population.

The name of the Ku Klux Klan was derived from the Greek word kyklos, meaning "circle," and the Scottish-Gaelic word "clan," which was probably chosen for the sake of alliteration. Under a platform of philosophized white racial superiority, the group employed violence as a means of pushing back Reconstruction and its enfranchisement of African Americans. Former Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest was the KKK's first grand wizard; in 1869, he unsuccessfully tried to disband it after he grew critical of the Klan's excessive violence. << (four....)​

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>> The original Ku Klux Klan was created in an 1865 meeting in a law office by six Confederate veterans in Pulaski, Tennessee. It was, at first, a humorous social club centering on practical jokes and hazing rituals. From 1866 to 1867, various local units began breaking up black prayer meetings and invading black homes at night to steal firearms. Some of these activities may have been modeled on previous Tennessee vigilante groups such as the Yellow Jackets and Redcaps. In an 1867 convention held in Nashville, the Klan was formalized as a national organization under a Prescript written by George Gordon, a former Confederate brigadier general.

... As historian Elaine Frantz Parsons discovered [Parsons p 816]:

"Lifting the Klan mask revealed a chaotic multitude of antiblack vigilante groups, disgruntled poor white farmers, wartime guerrilla bands, displaced Democratic politicians, illegal whiskey distillers, coercive moral reformers, bored young men, sadists, rapists, white workmen fearful of black competition, employers trying to enforce labor discipline, common thieves, neighbors with decades-old grudges, and even a few freedmen and white Republicans who allied with Democratic whites or had criminal agendas of their own." << (five....)
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>> The first Klan was created by six men from Pulaski Tennessee, in the image of other secret societies of the day. The hierarchical organization with local chapters housed under a national umbressa [sic] structure.

... History and context:

The first KKK was formed in the American South at the end of the civil war, when the victorious Union government imposed a version of martial law on the south and began to enforce laws designed to end segregation against black citizens. When a constitutional amendment granted black men the right to vote in 1870, the group turned to intimidation and violence to try to halt de-segregation. << (six...)​

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>> Started during Reconstruction at the end of the Civil War, the Klan quickly mobilized as a vigilante group to intimidate Southern blacks - and any whites who would help them - and to prevent them from enjoying basic civil rights. << (seven...)​

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>> The original Ku Klux Klan was organized by ex-Confederate elements to oppose the Reconstruction policies of the radical Republican Congress and to maintain "white supremacy." After the Civil War, when local government in the South was weak or nonexistent and there were fears of black outrages and even of an insurrection, informal vigilante organizations or armed patrols were formed in almost all communities. These were linked together in societies, such as the Men of Justice, the Pale Faces, the Constitutional Union Guards, the White Brotherhood, and the Order of the White Rose. The Ku Klux Klan was the best known of these, and in time it absorbed many of the smaller organizations. << (eight....)​

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>> The 19th-century Klan was originally organized as a social club by Confederate veterans in Pulaski, Tenn., in 1866. They apparently derived the name from the Greek word kyklos, from which comes the English circle; Klan was added for the sake of alliteration and Ku Klux Klan emerged. The organization quickly became a vehicle for Southern white underground resistance to Radical Reconstruction. Klan members sought the restoration of white supremacy through intimidation and violence aimed at the newly enfranchised black freedmen. A similar organization, the Knights of the White Camelia, began in Louisiana in 1867. << (nine...)

Oh no we ain't done. I know you're illiterate, living on Googly images, so here's a real picture, of a real plaque, placed by the real Daughters of the Confederacy, on the real law office where the KKK was founded in real Pulaski, with the real names of the real founders:

plaque1_6.gif

-- which you'll notice match exactly my text above.

You lose.
My, that was a mix and match bunch of lies and truths, but the simple truth is, DEMOCRATS formed the KKK to intimidate BLACKS and REPUBLICANS.... ROTFLMFAO, you did all this bullshit, and got bitch slapped again, because DemocRATS formed the KKK! ...... Want to try again? I can always pull up that whole THREAD!

I just did. With ten different independent sources, every last one of which says you're full of shit.


Not one of your alleged sources shows that these Confederate military officers, who lived in the South, who fought Republicans....were not democrats. Your only argument is that we don't have a source for their voting habits.....and because of that you say they weren't democrats......that is fucking lame.......

Uh, I don't need to prove a NEGATIVE, Sploogie. YOU need to prove the positive. Either do it or quite whining, Dumbass.

Moreover you're moving these goalposts just as you moved "1964" to 1957. The original claim was that the Klan was founded BY A POLITICAL PARTY. Which it clearly was not. And that goes for the original Klan, the second Klan (1915 by William Simmons, the one we're most familiar with) AND the third one (1946, Samuel Green).
 
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History reveals that Democrats lynched, burned, mutilated and murdered thousands of blacks and completely destroyed entire towns and communities occupied by middle class Blacks, including Rosewood, Florida, the Greenwood District in Tulsa Oklahoma, and Wilmington, North Carolina to name a few.

Bullshit. History reveals no such thing.

Lots of people attended lynchings. Some took pictures. Some made postcards. Some even bought and sold body parts as souvenirs.

NONE of them stood on the side checking voter registrations. Dumbass.


During the Senate debates on the Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871, it was revealed that members of the Democratic Party formed many terrorist organizations like the Ku Klux Klan to murder and intimidate African Americans voters.

Bullshit.

The Ku Klux Klan was founded by six Confederate war vets in Pulaski, Tennessee. Not by a political party. Several other regional terrorist organizations were formed around the same time -- White League; Red Caps; Knights of the White Camellia ... and others. NONE of them were formed by political parties.

The 1964 Civil Rights Act Roll Call Vote: In the House, only 64 percent of the Democrats (153 yes, 91 no), but 80 percent of the Republicans (136 yes, 35 no), voted for it. In the Senate, while only 68 percent of the Democrats endorsed the bill (46 yes, 21 no), 82 percent of the Republicans voted to enact it (27 yes, 6 no).

Bullshit.

Actually more Ds than Rs voted for it, but that's not significant. Here's what is:.

I got your pattern right here, Pal -- the one you're so desperately trying to smokescreen:

The original House version:
  • Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7–93%)
  • Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0–100%)
  • >>> ALL SOUTHERNERS: 7-97 (6.7%--93.3%)
  • Northern Democrats: 145–9 (94 – 6%)
  • Northern Republicans: 138–24 (85 – 15%)
  • >>> ALL NORTHERNERS: 283-33 (89.6%--11.4%)
The Senate version:
  • Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5–95%)
  • Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0–100%)
  • Northern Democrats: 45–1 (98–2%)
  • Northern Republicans: 27–5 (84–16%)
  • ALL SOUTHERNERS: 1--21 (4.5%--95.5%)
  • ALL NORTHERNERS: 72--6 (92.3%--7.7%)

Yes, there is a party pattern in that each line shows more support from the D side than the R side. But again, 94 versus 85 on one side is not significant.

But 96 on one side versus 92 on the other side?? You just hit the motherlode. The numbers don't lie; your pattern is clearly there but it's regional, not political. And regional, once again for you slow readers who can't think of a point on your own and crutch on Googly Image Bullshit, means cultural.

You take the numbers from the North -- both Dems and Repubs are for it.
You take the numbers from the South -- both Dems and Repubs are agin' it.
It's truly bipartisan in both directions.

Maybe you should break down and buy a history book, Dumbass.

And again, there is no such thing as a "Democrat Party". There never has been.


Yes...bullshit....the first grand dragon of the ku klux klan was Nathan Bedford Forest, a democrat.

Forrest was a soldier (and a slave trader and plantation owner) -- not a politician. He was recruited by the KKK -- which already existed -- in April of 1867 to be a figurehead that they hoped would give the organization "street cred" in the South. Not a founder. Further, a year and a half later (January 1869) he decided the group's activities were out of hand, disbanded it, and later denied ever having been part of it.

The group ignored the disband order and continued ad hoc for another decade before it was exterminated.

The 1964 Civil Rights act is what you democrat racists always use to hide your racism. The Republicans voted less for this Civil Rights act because many thought it went too far in putting the Federal Government interferring in Private businesses with the Accomodation laws it created...and we see they were right as the government is used to go after Christian businsses who won't serve gay weddings.

What you racist democrats hide, is that the Republicans voted in majorities for all the other civil rights acts, while the democrats fought all of them.

First off I have no political party so "you democrat racists" is nothing more than your own message board wankitude. But my numbers are accurate. I defy you to show where they're not.

[Try to hide the truth by focusing on the 1964 act where the Libertarian Republicans decided it went too far, going beyond protecting the Civil Rights of blacks and giving too much power to the government.

The 1964 legislation is the one the OP referred to. That is, before you tried to shift somewhere else because you can't deal with the present point.

[Don't let the racist democrats preach about how the parties changed sides with the 1964 civil rights act.

Strom Thurmond did. Two months later. Before that such a switch was unthinkable in the South.

The parties didn't change in 1964. That happened at the turn of the previous century.

The 1964 legislation is the one the OP referred to. That is, before you tried to shift somewhere else because you can't deal with the present point.


What you actually mean is before I showed that you focus on the 1964 Civil Rights act because it isn't the truth of the Republican party and the Civil Rights movement. The Republicans supported all the Civil Rights legislation and many decided not to support the 64 legislation because they saw that the accomodation laws and the hiring practice laws would be abused by racists.....as they are being abused today by the democrat racist groups....

EARTH TO STUPID....

HERE is the section, taken directly from the OP, right at the top of it, that I QUOTED TO RESPOND TO:

The 1964 Civil Rights Act Roll Call Vote: In the House, only 64 percent of the Democrats (153 yes, 91 no), but 80 percent of the Republicans (136 yes, 35 no), voted for it. In the Senate, while only 68 percent of the Democrats endorsed the bill (46 yes, 21 no), 82 percent of the Republicans voted to enact it (27 yes, 6 no).

--- Now what does that say? 1957?

DUMBASS.


Nice try ass wipe.......I told you why some Republicans voted against it.....they didn't support giving the federal government power through the accomodation laws and the hiring laws........they voted for all the other Civil Rights acts that the democrats voted against, but the 64 act went too far in creating new racism......

They believed in freedom, not government control asswipe.
 
Over a year ago I beat this little OCDGirl into the ground over this, I REPEAT it here for the uninformed, and to bitch slap OCDPogo again... and THIS from that stalwart of conservative thinking...PBS!!!!!!

"At the time of Ulysses S. Grant's election to the presidency, white supremacists were conducting a reign of terror throughout the South. In outright defiance of the Republican-led federal government, Southern Democrats formed organizations that violently intimidated blacks and Republicans who tried to win political power.

The most prominent of these, the Ku Klux Klan, was formed in Pulaski, Tennessee, in 1865. Originally founded as a social club for former Confederate soldiers, the Klan evolved into a terrorist organization. It would be responsible for thousands of deaths, and would help to weaken the political power of Southern blacks and Republicans."

WGBH American Experience . U.S. Grant: Warrior | PBS


Pissyante still valiantly holding on to his one bogus link even after getting ass whupped in the past.
Masochism... I just don't get it. Oh well, you asked for it, here it cometh:.
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First KKK
>> The first Klan was founded in 1865 in Pulaski, Tennessee, by six veterans of the Confederate Army.[17] The name is probably derived from the Greek word kuklos which means circle, suggesting a circle or band of brothers.[18]

Although there was little organizational structure above the local level, similar groups rose across the South and adopted the same name and methods.[19] Klan groups spread throughout the South as an insurgent movement during the Reconstruction era in the United States. As a secret vigilante group, the Klan targeted freedmen and their allies; it sought to restore white supremacy by threats and violence, including murder, against black and white Republicans.

Second KKK
... In 1915, the second Klan was founded in Atlanta, Georgia. Starting in 1921, it adopted a modern business system of recruiting (which paid most of the initiation fee and costume charges as commissions to the organizers) and grew rapidly nationwide at a time of prosperity. Reflecting the social tensions of urban industrialization and vastly increased immigration, its membership grew most rapidly in cities, and spread out of the South to the Midwest and West. The second KKK preached "One Hundred Percent Americanism" and demanded the purification of politics, calling for strict morality and better enforcement of prohibition. Its official rhetoric focused on the threat of the Catholic Church, using anti-Catholicism and nativism.[4] Its appeal was directed exclusively at white Protestants.[21]​

...Third KKK
The "Ku Klux Klan" name was used by a numerous independent local groups opposing the Civil Rights Movement and desegregation, especially in the 1950s and 1960s. During this period, they often forged alliances with Southern police departments, as in Birmingham, Alabama; or with governor's offices, as with George Wallace of Alabama.[25] Several members of KKK groups were convicted of murder in the deaths of civil rights workers and children in the bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham. << (Wiki)

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The Present Day Ku Klux Klan Movement, Report by the Committee on Un-American Activities, House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, First Session, December 11, 1967

>> The six Confederate army veterans credited with originating the Ku Klux Klan on Christmas Eve of 1865 in Pulaski, Tenn. are not memorialized in current klan literature. ... The organization to which modern klansmen pay homage was the Ku Klux Klan headed by Nathan Bedford Forrest, which officially operated in at least nine Southern states from 1867 to 1869 and unofficially for some years thereafter.

The conversion of klan purposes from amusement to terrorism had already been demonstrated by the time representatives of the local klan "dens" held a unifying convention in Nashville, Tenn., in 1867 and elected former Confederate Army General Forrest as their grand wizard. << (two...)
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Extremism in America/ADL

>> About the Ku Klux Klan
The Ku Klux Klan is a racist, anti-Semitic movement with a commitment to extreme violence to achieve its goals of racial segregation and white supremacy.
... At first, the Ku Klux Klan focused its anger and violence on African-Americans, on white Americans who stood up for them, and against the federal government which supported their rights. Subsequent incarnations of the Klan, which typically emerged in times of rapid social change, added more categories to its enemies list, including Jews, Catholics (less so after the 1970s), homosexuals, and different groups of immigrants.


Founder: Confederate Civil War veterans Captain John C. Lester, Major James R. Crowe, John D. Kennedy, Calvin Jones, Richard R. Reed, Frank O. McCord << (three....)
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In Pulaski, Tennessee, a group of Confederate veterans convenes to form a secret society that they christen the "Ku Klux Klan." The KKK rapidly grew from a secret social fraternity to a paramilitary force bent on reversing the federal government's progressive Reconstruction Era-activities in the South, especially policies that elevated the rights of the local African American population.

The name of the Ku Klux Klan was derived from the Greek word kyklos, meaning "circle," and the Scottish-Gaelic word "clan," which was probably chosen for the sake of alliteration. Under a platform of philosophized white racial superiority, the group employed violence as a means of pushing back Reconstruction and its enfranchisement of African Americans. Former Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest was the KKK's first grand wizard; in 1869, he unsuccessfully tried to disband it after he grew critical of the Klan's excessive violence. << (four....)​

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>> The original Ku Klux Klan was created in an 1865 meeting in a law office by six Confederate veterans in Pulaski, Tennessee. It was, at first, a humorous social club centering on practical jokes and hazing rituals. From 1866 to 1867, various local units began breaking up black prayer meetings and invading black homes at night to steal firearms. Some of these activities may have been modeled on previous Tennessee vigilante groups such as the Yellow Jackets and Redcaps. In an 1867 convention held in Nashville, the Klan was formalized as a national organization under a Prescript written by George Gordon, a former Confederate brigadier general.

... As historian Elaine Frantz Parsons discovered [Parsons p 816]:

"Lifting the Klan mask revealed a chaotic multitude of antiblack vigilante groups, disgruntled poor white farmers, wartime guerrilla bands, displaced Democratic politicians, illegal whiskey distillers, coercive moral reformers, bored young men, sadists, rapists, white workmen fearful of black competition, employers trying to enforce labor discipline, common thieves, neighbors with decades-old grudges, and even a few freedmen and white Republicans who allied with Democratic whites or had criminal agendas of their own." << (five....)
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>> The first Klan was created by six men from Pulaski Tennessee, in the image of other secret societies of the day. The hierarchical organization with local chapters housed under a national umbressa [sic] structure.

... History and context:

The first KKK was formed in the American South at the end of the civil war, when the victorious Union government imposed a version of martial law on the south and began to enforce laws designed to end segregation against black citizens. When a constitutional amendment granted black men the right to vote in 1870, the group turned to intimidation and violence to try to halt de-segregation. << (six...)​

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>> Started during Reconstruction at the end of the Civil War, the Klan quickly mobilized as a vigilante group to intimidate Southern blacks - and any whites who would help them - and to prevent them from enjoying basic civil rights. << (seven...)​

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>> The original Ku Klux Klan was organized by ex-Confederate elements to oppose the Reconstruction policies of the radical Republican Congress and to maintain "white supremacy." After the Civil War, when local government in the South was weak or nonexistent and there were fears of black outrages and even of an insurrection, informal vigilante organizations or armed patrols were formed in almost all communities. These were linked together in societies, such as the Men of Justice, the Pale Faces, the Constitutional Union Guards, the White Brotherhood, and the Order of the White Rose. The Ku Klux Klan was the best known of these, and in time it absorbed many of the smaller organizations. << (eight....)​

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>> The 19th-century Klan was originally organized as a social club by Confederate veterans in Pulaski, Tenn., in 1866. They apparently derived the name from the Greek word kyklos, from which comes the English circle; Klan was added for the sake of alliteration and Ku Klux Klan emerged. The organization quickly became a vehicle for Southern white underground resistance to Radical Reconstruction. Klan members sought the restoration of white supremacy through intimidation and violence aimed at the newly enfranchised black freedmen. A similar organization, the Knights of the White Camelia, began in Louisiana in 1867. << (nine...)

Oh no we ain't done. I know you're illiterate, living on Googly images, so here's a real picture, of a real plaque, placed by the real Daughters of the Confederacy, on the real law office where the KKK was founded in real Pulaski, with the real names of the real founders:

plaque1_6.gif

-- which you'll notice match exactly my text above.

You lose.
My, that was a mix and match bunch of lies and truths, but the simple truth is, DEMOCRATS formed the KKK to intimidate BLACKS and REPUBLICANS.... ROTFLMFAO, you did all this bullshit, and got bitch slapped again, because DemocRATS formed the KKK! ...... Want to try again? I can always pull up that whole THREAD!

I just did. With ten different independent sources, every last one of which says you're full of shit.


Not one of your alleged sources shows that these Confederate military officers, who lived in the South, who fought Republicans....were not democrats. Your only argument is that we don't have a source for their voting habits.....and because of that you say they weren't democrats......that is fucking lame.......

Uh, I don't need to prove a NEGATIVE, Sploogie. YOU need to prove the positive. Either do it or quite whining, Dumbass.


Asswipe....explain how 6 Confederate officers never, ever voted in their entire lives.....that is on you since you claim they weren't members of a political party..........
 
Over a year ago I beat this little OCDGirl into the ground over this, I REPEAT it here for the uninformed, and to bitch slap OCDPogo again... and THIS from that stalwart of conservative thinking...PBS!!!!!!

"At the time of Ulysses S. Grant's election to the presidency, white supremacists were conducting a reign of terror throughout the South. In outright defiance of the Republican-led federal government, Southern Democrats formed organizations that violently intimidated blacks and Republicans who tried to win political power.

The most prominent of these, the Ku Klux Klan, was formed in Pulaski, Tennessee, in 1865. Originally founded as a social club for former Confederate soldiers, the Klan evolved into a terrorist organization. It would be responsible for thousands of deaths, and would help to weaken the political power of Southern blacks and Republicans."

WGBH American Experience . U.S. Grant: Warrior | PBS


Pissyante still valiantly holding on to his one bogus link even after getting ass whupped in the past.
Masochism... I just don't get it. Oh well, you asked for it, here it cometh:.
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First KKK
>> The first Klan was founded in 1865 in Pulaski, Tennessee, by six veterans of the Confederate Army.[17] The name is probably derived from the Greek word kuklos which means circle, suggesting a circle or band of brothers.[18]

Although there was little organizational structure above the local level, similar groups rose across the South and adopted the same name and methods.[19] Klan groups spread throughout the South as an insurgent movement during the Reconstruction era in the United States. As a secret vigilante group, the Klan targeted freedmen and their allies; it sought to restore white supremacy by threats and violence, including murder, against black and white Republicans.

Second KKK
... In 1915, the second Klan was founded in Atlanta, Georgia. Starting in 1921, it adopted a modern business system of recruiting (which paid most of the initiation fee and costume charges as commissions to the organizers) and grew rapidly nationwide at a time of prosperity. Reflecting the social tensions of urban industrialization and vastly increased immigration, its membership grew most rapidly in cities, and spread out of the South to the Midwest and West. The second KKK preached "One Hundred Percent Americanism" and demanded the purification of politics, calling for strict morality and better enforcement of prohibition. Its official rhetoric focused on the threat of the Catholic Church, using anti-Catholicism and nativism.[4] Its appeal was directed exclusively at white Protestants.[21]​

...Third KKK
The "Ku Klux Klan" name was used by a numerous independent local groups opposing the Civil Rights Movement and desegregation, especially in the 1950s and 1960s. During this period, they often forged alliances with Southern police departments, as in Birmingham, Alabama; or with governor's offices, as with George Wallace of Alabama.[25] Several members of KKK groups were convicted of murder in the deaths of civil rights workers and children in the bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham. << (Wiki)

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The Present Day Ku Klux Klan Movement, Report by the Committee on Un-American Activities, House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, First Session, December 11, 1967

>> The six Confederate army veterans credited with originating the Ku Klux Klan on Christmas Eve of 1865 in Pulaski, Tenn. are not memorialized in current klan literature. ... The organization to which modern klansmen pay homage was the Ku Klux Klan headed by Nathan Bedford Forrest, which officially operated in at least nine Southern states from 1867 to 1869 and unofficially for some years thereafter.

The conversion of klan purposes from amusement to terrorism had already been demonstrated by the time representatives of the local klan "dens" held a unifying convention in Nashville, Tenn., in 1867 and elected former Confederate Army General Forrest as their grand wizard. << (two...)
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Extremism in America/ADL

>> About the Ku Klux Klan
The Ku Klux Klan is a racist, anti-Semitic movement with a commitment to extreme violence to achieve its goals of racial segregation and white supremacy.
... At first, the Ku Klux Klan focused its anger and violence on African-Americans, on white Americans who stood up for them, and against the federal government which supported their rights. Subsequent incarnations of the Klan, which typically emerged in times of rapid social change, added more categories to its enemies list, including Jews, Catholics (less so after the 1970s), homosexuals, and different groups of immigrants.


Founder: Confederate Civil War veterans Captain John C. Lester, Major James R. Crowe, John D. Kennedy, Calvin Jones, Richard R. Reed, Frank O. McCord << (three....)
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In Pulaski, Tennessee, a group of Confederate veterans convenes to form a secret society that they christen the "Ku Klux Klan." The KKK rapidly grew from a secret social fraternity to a paramilitary force bent on reversing the federal government's progressive Reconstruction Era-activities in the South, especially policies that elevated the rights of the local African American population.

The name of the Ku Klux Klan was derived from the Greek word kyklos, meaning "circle," and the Scottish-Gaelic word "clan," which was probably chosen for the sake of alliteration. Under a platform of philosophized white racial superiority, the group employed violence as a means of pushing back Reconstruction and its enfranchisement of African Americans. Former Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest was the KKK's first grand wizard; in 1869, he unsuccessfully tried to disband it after he grew critical of the Klan's excessive violence. << (four....)​

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>> The original Ku Klux Klan was created in an 1865 meeting in a law office by six Confederate veterans in Pulaski, Tennessee. It was, at first, a humorous social club centering on practical jokes and hazing rituals. From 1866 to 1867, various local units began breaking up black prayer meetings and invading black homes at night to steal firearms. Some of these activities may have been modeled on previous Tennessee vigilante groups such as the Yellow Jackets and Redcaps. In an 1867 convention held in Nashville, the Klan was formalized as a national organization under a Prescript written by George Gordon, a former Confederate brigadier general.

... As historian Elaine Frantz Parsons discovered [Parsons p 816]:

"Lifting the Klan mask revealed a chaotic multitude of antiblack vigilante groups, disgruntled poor white farmers, wartime guerrilla bands, displaced Democratic politicians, illegal whiskey distillers, coercive moral reformers, bored young men, sadists, rapists, white workmen fearful of black competition, employers trying to enforce labor discipline, common thieves, neighbors with decades-old grudges, and even a few freedmen and white Republicans who allied with Democratic whites or had criminal agendas of their own." << (five....)
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>> The first Klan was created by six men from Pulaski Tennessee, in the image of other secret societies of the day. The hierarchical organization with local chapters housed under a national umbressa [sic] structure.

... History and context:

The first KKK was formed in the American South at the end of the civil war, when the victorious Union government imposed a version of martial law on the south and began to enforce laws designed to end segregation against black citizens. When a constitutional amendment granted black men the right to vote in 1870, the group turned to intimidation and violence to try to halt de-segregation. << (six...)​

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>> Started during Reconstruction at the end of the Civil War, the Klan quickly mobilized as a vigilante group to intimidate Southern blacks - and any whites who would help them - and to prevent them from enjoying basic civil rights. << (seven...)​

_______
>> The original Ku Klux Klan was organized by ex-Confederate elements to oppose the Reconstruction policies of the radical Republican Congress and to maintain "white supremacy." After the Civil War, when local government in the South was weak or nonexistent and there were fears of black outrages and even of an insurrection, informal vigilante organizations or armed patrols were formed in almost all communities. These were linked together in societies, such as the Men of Justice, the Pale Faces, the Constitutional Union Guards, the White Brotherhood, and the Order of the White Rose. The Ku Klux Klan was the best known of these, and in time it absorbed many of the smaller organizations. << (eight....)​

_______
>> The 19th-century Klan was originally organized as a social club by Confederate veterans in Pulaski, Tenn., in 1866. They apparently derived the name from the Greek word kyklos, from which comes the English circle; Klan was added for the sake of alliteration and Ku Klux Klan emerged. The organization quickly became a vehicle for Southern white underground resistance to Radical Reconstruction. Klan members sought the restoration of white supremacy through intimidation and violence aimed at the newly enfranchised black freedmen. A similar organization, the Knights of the White Camelia, began in Louisiana in 1867. << (nine...)

Oh no we ain't done. I know you're illiterate, living on Googly images, so here's a real picture, of a real plaque, placed by the real Daughters of the Confederacy, on the real law office where the KKK was founded in real Pulaski, with the real names of the real founders:

plaque1_6.gif

-- which you'll notice match exactly my text above.

You lose.
My, that was a mix and match bunch of lies and truths, but the simple truth is, DEMOCRATS formed the KKK to intimidate BLACKS and REPUBLICANS.... ROTFLMFAO, you did all this bullshit, and got bitch slapped again, because DemocRATS formed the KKK! ...... Want to try again? I can always pull up that whole THREAD!

I just did. With ten different independent sources, every last one of which says you're full of shit.


Not one of your alleged sources shows that these Confederate military officers, who lived in the South, who fought Republicans....were not democrats. Your only argument is that we don't have a source for their voting habits.....and because of that you say they weren't democrats......that is fucking lame.......

Uh, I don't need to prove a NEGATIVE, Sploogie. YOU need to prove the positive. Either do it or quite whining, Dumbass.

Moreover you're moving these goalposts just as you moved "1964" to 1957. The original claim was that the Klan was founded BY A POLITICAL PARTY. Which it clearly was not. And that goes for the original Klan, the second Klan (1915, the one we're most familiar with) AND the third one (1946, Samuel Green).


No fuck head....I explained the fact that the 1964 Civil Rights act was only one of many Civil Rights acts.....that you racists hide because it destroys the meme that the Republicans are racists.....since they supported the other Civil Rights acts and only some of them hesitated to vote for the 64 act because of the accomodation laws and the hiring laws that create our current problems...they were right....just ask the wedding bakers, photographers and pizza makers who are losing their businesses to it......
 
Pissyante still valiantly holding on to his one bogus link even after getting ass whupped in the past.
Masochism... I just don't get it. Oh well, you asked for it, here it cometh:.
________
First KKK
>> The first Klan was founded in 1865 in Pulaski, Tennessee, by six veterans of the Confederate Army.[17] The name is probably derived from the Greek word kuklos which means circle, suggesting a circle or band of brothers.[18]

Although there was little organizational structure above the local level, similar groups rose across the South and adopted the same name and methods.[19] Klan groups spread throughout the South as an insurgent movement during the Reconstruction era in the United States. As a secret vigilante group, the Klan targeted freedmen and their allies; it sought to restore white supremacy by threats and violence, including murder, against black and white Republicans.

Second KKK
... In 1915, the second Klan was founded in Atlanta, Georgia. Starting in 1921, it adopted a modern business system of recruiting (which paid most of the initiation fee and costume charges as commissions to the organizers) and grew rapidly nationwide at a time of prosperity. Reflecting the social tensions of urban industrialization and vastly increased immigration, its membership grew most rapidly in cities, and spread out of the South to the Midwest and West. The second KKK preached "One Hundred Percent Americanism" and demanded the purification of politics, calling for strict morality and better enforcement of prohibition. Its official rhetoric focused on the threat of the Catholic Church, using anti-Catholicism and nativism.[4] Its appeal was directed exclusively at white Protestants.[21]​

...Third KKK
The "Ku Klux Klan" name was used by a numerous independent local groups opposing the Civil Rights Movement and desegregation, especially in the 1950s and 1960s. During this period, they often forged alliances with Southern police departments, as in Birmingham, Alabama; or with governor's offices, as with George Wallace of Alabama.[25] Several members of KKK groups were convicted of murder in the deaths of civil rights workers and children in the bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham. << (Wiki)

(one)
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The Present Day Ku Klux Klan Movement, Report by the Committee on Un-American Activities, House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, First Session, December 11, 1967

>> The six Confederate army veterans credited with originating the Ku Klux Klan on Christmas Eve of 1865 in Pulaski, Tenn. are not memorialized in current klan literature. ... The organization to which modern klansmen pay homage was the Ku Klux Klan headed by Nathan Bedford Forrest, which officially operated in at least nine Southern states from 1867 to 1869 and unofficially for some years thereafter.

The conversion of klan purposes from amusement to terrorism had already been demonstrated by the time representatives of the local klan "dens" held a unifying convention in Nashville, Tenn., in 1867 and elected former Confederate Army General Forrest as their grand wizard. << (two...)
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Extremism in America/ADL

>> About the Ku Klux Klan
The Ku Klux Klan is a racist, anti-Semitic movement with a commitment to extreme violence to achieve its goals of racial segregation and white supremacy.
... At first, the Ku Klux Klan focused its anger and violence on African-Americans, on white Americans who stood up for them, and against the federal government which supported their rights. Subsequent incarnations of the Klan, which typically emerged in times of rapid social change, added more categories to its enemies list, including Jews, Catholics (less so after the 1970s), homosexuals, and different groups of immigrants.


Founder: Confederate Civil War veterans Captain John C. Lester, Major James R. Crowe, John D. Kennedy, Calvin Jones, Richard R. Reed, Frank O. McCord << (three....)
______
In Pulaski, Tennessee, a group of Confederate veterans convenes to form a secret society that they christen the "Ku Klux Klan." The KKK rapidly grew from a secret social fraternity to a paramilitary force bent on reversing the federal government's progressive Reconstruction Era-activities in the South, especially policies that elevated the rights of the local African American population.

The name of the Ku Klux Klan was derived from the Greek word kyklos, meaning "circle," and the Scottish-Gaelic word "clan," which was probably chosen for the sake of alliteration. Under a platform of philosophized white racial superiority, the group employed violence as a means of pushing back Reconstruction and its enfranchisement of African Americans. Former Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest was the KKK's first grand wizard; in 1869, he unsuccessfully tried to disband it after he grew critical of the Klan's excessive violence. << (four....)​

________
>> The original Ku Klux Klan was created in an 1865 meeting in a law office by six Confederate veterans in Pulaski, Tennessee. It was, at first, a humorous social club centering on practical jokes and hazing rituals. From 1866 to 1867, various local units began breaking up black prayer meetings and invading black homes at night to steal firearms. Some of these activities may have been modeled on previous Tennessee vigilante groups such as the Yellow Jackets and Redcaps. In an 1867 convention held in Nashville, the Klan was formalized as a national organization under a Prescript written by George Gordon, a former Confederate brigadier general.

... As historian Elaine Frantz Parsons discovered [Parsons p 816]:

"Lifting the Klan mask revealed a chaotic multitude of antiblack vigilante groups, disgruntled poor white farmers, wartime guerrilla bands, displaced Democratic politicians, illegal whiskey distillers, coercive moral reformers, bored young men, sadists, rapists, white workmen fearful of black competition, employers trying to enforce labor discipline, common thieves, neighbors with decades-old grudges, and even a few freedmen and white Republicans who allied with Democratic whites or had criminal agendas of their own." << (five....)
_______

>> The first Klan was created by six men from Pulaski Tennessee, in the image of other secret societies of the day. The hierarchical organization with local chapters housed under a national umbressa [sic] structure.

... History and context:

The first KKK was formed in the American South at the end of the civil war, when the victorious Union government imposed a version of martial law on the south and began to enforce laws designed to end segregation against black citizens. When a constitutional amendment granted black men the right to vote in 1870, the group turned to intimidation and violence to try to halt de-segregation. << (six...)​

_________
>> Started during Reconstruction at the end of the Civil War, the Klan quickly mobilized as a vigilante group to intimidate Southern blacks - and any whites who would help them - and to prevent them from enjoying basic civil rights. << (seven...)​

_______
>> The original Ku Klux Klan was organized by ex-Confederate elements to oppose the Reconstruction policies of the radical Republican Congress and to maintain "white supremacy." After the Civil War, when local government in the South was weak or nonexistent and there were fears of black outrages and even of an insurrection, informal vigilante organizations or armed patrols were formed in almost all communities. These were linked together in societies, such as the Men of Justice, the Pale Faces, the Constitutional Union Guards, the White Brotherhood, and the Order of the White Rose. The Ku Klux Klan was the best known of these, and in time it absorbed many of the smaller organizations. << (eight....)​

_______
>> The 19th-century Klan was originally organized as a social club by Confederate veterans in Pulaski, Tenn., in 1866. They apparently derived the name from the Greek word kyklos, from which comes the English circle; Klan was added for the sake of alliteration and Ku Klux Klan emerged. The organization quickly became a vehicle for Southern white underground resistance to Radical Reconstruction. Klan members sought the restoration of white supremacy through intimidation and violence aimed at the newly enfranchised black freedmen. A similar organization, the Knights of the White Camelia, began in Louisiana in 1867. << (nine...)

Oh no we ain't done. I know you're illiterate, living on Googly images, so here's a real picture, of a real plaque, placed by the real Daughters of the Confederacy, on the real law office where the KKK was founded in real Pulaski, with the real names of the real founders:

plaque1_6.gif

-- which you'll notice match exactly my text above.

You lose.
My, that was a mix and match bunch of lies and truths, but the simple truth is, DEMOCRATS formed the KKK to intimidate BLACKS and REPUBLICANS.... ROTFLMFAO, you did all this bullshit, and got bitch slapped again, because DemocRATS formed the KKK! ...... Want to try again? I can always pull up that whole THREAD!

I just did. With ten different independent sources, every last one of which says you're full of shit.


You are telling us....that 6 Confederate army officers who founded the klan, in no way were members of the democrat party, the party that fought the Republicans to keep slavery in this country......now you are not only funny, you are really stupid.

I guess those army officers were actually closet Republicans...right?

What kind of Planet Moron do you come from where everyone is a member of a political party?

Once again, ten sources. They're correct. Prove me wrong.


Yes....keep telling us that the 6 founding members of the ku klux klan never voted in an election.......and that if they did vote they would have voted for Republicans.....how stupid are you? Wait, I'll answer that, very stupid.

Go fuck yourself. You've been proven wrong. Grow the fuck up.
This just in, there wasn't a whole lotta votin' goin' on in Federally occupied territory in 1865. The states were out of the Union.

I mean how the fuck stupid are you? :lmao:
 
Pissyante still valiantly holding on to his one bogus link even after getting ass whupped in the past.
Masochism... I just don't get it. Oh well, you asked for it, here it cometh:.
________
First KKK
>> The first Klan was founded in 1865 in Pulaski, Tennessee, by six veterans of the Confederate Army.[17] The name is probably derived from the Greek word kuklos which means circle, suggesting a circle or band of brothers.[18]

Although there was little organizational structure above the local level, similar groups rose across the South and adopted the same name and methods.[19] Klan groups spread throughout the South as an insurgent movement during the Reconstruction era in the United States. As a secret vigilante group, the Klan targeted freedmen and their allies; it sought to restore white supremacy by threats and violence, including murder, against black and white Republicans.

Second KKK
... In 1915, the second Klan was founded in Atlanta, Georgia. Starting in 1921, it adopted a modern business system of recruiting (which paid most of the initiation fee and costume charges as commissions to the organizers) and grew rapidly nationwide at a time of prosperity. Reflecting the social tensions of urban industrialization and vastly increased immigration, its membership grew most rapidly in cities, and spread out of the South to the Midwest and West. The second KKK preached "One Hundred Percent Americanism" and demanded the purification of politics, calling for strict morality and better enforcement of prohibition. Its official rhetoric focused on the threat of the Catholic Church, using anti-Catholicism and nativism.[4] Its appeal was directed exclusively at white Protestants.[21]​

...Third KKK
The "Ku Klux Klan" name was used by a numerous independent local groups opposing the Civil Rights Movement and desegregation, especially in the 1950s and 1960s. During this period, they often forged alliances with Southern police departments, as in Birmingham, Alabama; or with governor's offices, as with George Wallace of Alabama.[25] Several members of KKK groups were convicted of murder in the deaths of civil rights workers and children in the bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham. << (Wiki)

(one)
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The Present Day Ku Klux Klan Movement, Report by the Committee on Un-American Activities, House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, First Session, December 11, 1967

>> The six Confederate army veterans credited with originating the Ku Klux Klan on Christmas Eve of 1865 in Pulaski, Tenn. are not memorialized in current klan literature. ... The organization to which modern klansmen pay homage was the Ku Klux Klan headed by Nathan Bedford Forrest, which officially operated in at least nine Southern states from 1867 to 1869 and unofficially for some years thereafter.

The conversion of klan purposes from amusement to terrorism had already been demonstrated by the time representatives of the local klan "dens" held a unifying convention in Nashville, Tenn., in 1867 and elected former Confederate Army General Forrest as their grand wizard. << (two...)
________
Extremism in America/ADL

>> About the Ku Klux Klan
The Ku Klux Klan is a racist, anti-Semitic movement with a commitment to extreme violence to achieve its goals of racial segregation and white supremacy.
... At first, the Ku Klux Klan focused its anger and violence on African-Americans, on white Americans who stood up for them, and against the federal government which supported their rights. Subsequent incarnations of the Klan, which typically emerged in times of rapid social change, added more categories to its enemies list, including Jews, Catholics (less so after the 1970s), homosexuals, and different groups of immigrants.


Founder: Confederate Civil War veterans Captain John C. Lester, Major James R. Crowe, John D. Kennedy, Calvin Jones, Richard R. Reed, Frank O. McCord << (three....)
______
In Pulaski, Tennessee, a group of Confederate veterans convenes to form a secret society that they christen the "Ku Klux Klan." The KKK rapidly grew from a secret social fraternity to a paramilitary force bent on reversing the federal government's progressive Reconstruction Era-activities in the South, especially policies that elevated the rights of the local African American population.

The name of the Ku Klux Klan was derived from the Greek word kyklos, meaning "circle," and the Scottish-Gaelic word "clan," which was probably chosen for the sake of alliteration. Under a platform of philosophized white racial superiority, the group employed violence as a means of pushing back Reconstruction and its enfranchisement of African Americans. Former Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest was the KKK's first grand wizard; in 1869, he unsuccessfully tried to disband it after he grew critical of the Klan's excessive violence. << (four....)​

________
>> The original Ku Klux Klan was created in an 1865 meeting in a law office by six Confederate veterans in Pulaski, Tennessee. It was, at first, a humorous social club centering on practical jokes and hazing rituals. From 1866 to 1867, various local units began breaking up black prayer meetings and invading black homes at night to steal firearms. Some of these activities may have been modeled on previous Tennessee vigilante groups such as the Yellow Jackets and Redcaps. In an 1867 convention held in Nashville, the Klan was formalized as a national organization under a Prescript written by George Gordon, a former Confederate brigadier general.

... As historian Elaine Frantz Parsons discovered [Parsons p 816]:

"Lifting the Klan mask revealed a chaotic multitude of antiblack vigilante groups, disgruntled poor white farmers, wartime guerrilla bands, displaced Democratic politicians, illegal whiskey distillers, coercive moral reformers, bored young men, sadists, rapists, white workmen fearful of black competition, employers trying to enforce labor discipline, common thieves, neighbors with decades-old grudges, and even a few freedmen and white Republicans who allied with Democratic whites or had criminal agendas of their own." << (five....)
_______

>> The first Klan was created by six men from Pulaski Tennessee, in the image of other secret societies of the day. The hierarchical organization with local chapters housed under a national umbressa [sic] structure.

... History and context:

The first KKK was formed in the American South at the end of the civil war, when the victorious Union government imposed a version of martial law on the south and began to enforce laws designed to end segregation against black citizens. When a constitutional amendment granted black men the right to vote in 1870, the group turned to intimidation and violence to try to halt de-segregation. << (six...)​

_________
>> Started during Reconstruction at the end of the Civil War, the Klan quickly mobilized as a vigilante group to intimidate Southern blacks - and any whites who would help them - and to prevent them from enjoying basic civil rights. << (seven...)​

_______
>> The original Ku Klux Klan was organized by ex-Confederate elements to oppose the Reconstruction policies of the radical Republican Congress and to maintain "white supremacy." After the Civil War, when local government in the South was weak or nonexistent and there were fears of black outrages and even of an insurrection, informal vigilante organizations or armed patrols were formed in almost all communities. These were linked together in societies, such as the Men of Justice, the Pale Faces, the Constitutional Union Guards, the White Brotherhood, and the Order of the White Rose. The Ku Klux Klan was the best known of these, and in time it absorbed many of the smaller organizations. << (eight....)​

_______
>> The 19th-century Klan was originally organized as a social club by Confederate veterans in Pulaski, Tenn., in 1866. They apparently derived the name from the Greek word kyklos, from which comes the English circle; Klan was added for the sake of alliteration and Ku Klux Klan emerged. The organization quickly became a vehicle for Southern white underground resistance to Radical Reconstruction. Klan members sought the restoration of white supremacy through intimidation and violence aimed at the newly enfranchised black freedmen. A similar organization, the Knights of the White Camelia, began in Louisiana in 1867. << (nine...)

Oh no we ain't done. I know you're illiterate, living on Googly images, so here's a real picture, of a real plaque, placed by the real Daughters of the Confederacy, on the real law office where the KKK was founded in real Pulaski, with the real names of the real founders:

plaque1_6.gif

-- which you'll notice match exactly my text above.

You lose.
My, that was a mix and match bunch of lies and truths, but the simple truth is, DEMOCRATS formed the KKK to intimidate BLACKS and REPUBLICANS.... ROTFLMFAO, you did all this bullshit, and got bitch slapped again, because DemocRATS formed the KKK! ...... Want to try again? I can always pull up that whole THREAD!

I just did. With ten different independent sources, every last one of which says you're full of shit.


Not one of your alleged sources shows that these Confederate military officers, who lived in the South, who fought Republicans....were not democrats. Your only argument is that we don't have a source for their voting habits.....and because of that you say they weren't democrats......that is fucking lame.......

Uh, I don't need to prove a NEGATIVE, Sploogie. YOU need to prove the positive. Either do it or quite whining, Dumbass.


Asswipe....explain how 6 Confederate officers never, ever voted in their entire lives.....that is on you since you claim they weren't members of a political party..........

They were around 20 years old. And were in a war until a few months before. Yeah that's quite a "voting history".

DUMBASS.

Not one of your alleged sources
Actually they're LINKED sources, not "alleged". That's so you can (a) see they're real and (b) read them for yourself. All except the Congressional report, which I have here in my library, but that's probably online by now too.

You do know how to actually "click" a "link" do you not? Or am I assuming too much?
DUMBASS.


yes...again...explain to us how those six former Confederate officers...who fought against the Republicans during the Civil War.....never ever, ever voted in an election....tell us how that worked........

:rofl: Classic!

You're not only stupid enough to imagine elections going on DURING A WAR...
rofl.gif


... an election DURING A WAR... :lmao:

---- but you actually think the Civil War was fought between the Confederates... and the Republican Party??

Holy SHIT this is the stuff of siglines.

:dig:
 
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My, that was a mix and match bunch of lies and truths, but the simple truth is, DEMOCRATS formed the KKK to intimidate BLACKS and REPUBLICANS.... ROTFLMFAO, you did all this bullshit, and got bitch slapped again, because DemocRATS formed the KKK! ...... Want to try again? I can always pull up that whole THREAD!

I just did. With ten different independent sources, every last one of which says you're full of shit.


You are telling us....that 6 Confederate army officers who founded the klan, in no way were members of the democrat party, the party that fought the Republicans to keep slavery in this country......now you are not only funny, you are really stupid.

I guess those army officers were actually closet Republicans...right?

What kind of Planet Moron do you come from where everyone is a member of a political party?

Once again, ten sources. They're correct. Prove me wrong.


Yes....keep telling us that the 6 founding members of the ku klux klan never voted in an election.......and that if they did vote they would have voted for Republicans.....how stupid are you? Wait, I'll answer that, very stupid.

Go fuck yourself. You've been proven wrong. Grow the fuck up.
This just in, there wasn't a whole lotta votin' goin' on in Federally occupied territory in 1865. The states were out of the Union.

I mean how the fuck stupid are you? :lmao:


The President of the Confederate States was a democrat asswipe...........
 
My, that was a mix and match bunch of lies and truths, but the simple truth is, DEMOCRATS formed the KKK to intimidate BLACKS and REPUBLICANS.... ROTFLMFAO, you did all this bullshit, and got bitch slapped again, because DemocRATS formed the KKK! ...... Want to try again? I can always pull up that whole THREAD!

I just did. With ten different independent sources, every last one of which says you're full of shit.


Not one of your alleged sources shows that these Confederate military officers, who lived in the South, who fought Republicans....were not democrats. Your only argument is that we don't have a source for their voting habits.....and because of that you say they weren't democrats......that is fucking lame.......

Uh, I don't need to prove a NEGATIVE, Sploogie. YOU need to prove the positive. Either do it or quite whining, Dumbass.


Asswipe....explain how 6 Confederate officers never, ever voted in their entire lives.....that is on you since you claim they weren't members of a political party..........

They were around 20 years old. And were in a war until a few months before. Yeah that's quite a "voting history".

DUMBASS.


So after the war they never, ever voted in an election..........you are such a moron.....but cling to your lies...it is all you have.
 
I just did. With ten different independent sources, every last one of which says you're full of shit.


Not one of your alleged sources shows that these Confederate military officers, who lived in the South, who fought Republicans....were not democrats. Your only argument is that we don't have a source for their voting habits.....and because of that you say they weren't democrats......that is fucking lame.......

Uh, I don't need to prove a NEGATIVE, Sploogie. YOU need to prove the positive. Either do it or quite whining, Dumbass.


Asswipe....explain how 6 Confederate officers never, ever voted in their entire lives.....that is on you since you claim they weren't members of a political party..........

They were around 20 years old. And were in a war until a few months before. Yeah that's quite a "voting history".

DUMBASS.


So after the war they never, ever voted in an election..........you are such a moron.....but cling to your lies...it is all you have.

"Lies"??

WHO just proposed that six guys never voted after that? I don't know what the fuck they did after that, but in 1865 --- WHEN THE FUCKING KLAN WAS FOUNDED WHICH IS WHAT THE FUCK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT --- they were twentysomething veteran soldiers who just got done with a war, living in federally occupied territory. So rotsa ruck finding their "voting records" from that time.

DUMBASS. :fu:
 
My, that was a mix and match bunch of lies and truths, but the simple truth is, DEMOCRATS formed the KKK to intimidate BLACKS and REPUBLICANS.... ROTFLMFAO, you did all this bullshit, and got bitch slapped again, because DemocRATS formed the KKK! ...... Want to try again? I can always pull up that whole THREAD!

I just did. With ten different independent sources, every last one of which says you're full of shit.


Not one of your alleged sources shows that these Confederate military officers, who lived in the South, who fought Republicans....were not democrats. Your only argument is that we don't have a source for their voting habits.....and because of that you say they weren't democrats......that is fucking lame.......

Uh, I don't need to prove a NEGATIVE, Sploogie. YOU need to prove the positive. Either do it or quite whining, Dumbass.


Asswipe....explain how 6 Confederate officers never, ever voted in their entire lives.....that is on you since you claim they weren't members of a political party..........

They were around 20 years old. And were in a war until a few months before. Yeah that's quite a "voting history".

DUMBASS.

Not one of your alleged sources
Actually they're LINKED sources, not "alleged". That's so you can (a) see they're real and (b) read them for yourself. All except the Congressional report, which I have here in my library, but that's probably online by now too.

You do know how to actually "click" a "link" do you not? Or am I assuming too much?
DUMBASS.


yes...again...explain to us how those six former Confederate officers...who fought against the Republicans during the Civil War.....never ever, ever voted in an election....tell us how that worked........

:rofl: Classic!

You're not only stupid enough to imagine elections going on DURING A WAR...
rofl.gif


... an election DURING A WAR... :lmao:

---- but you actually think the Civil War was fought between the Confederates... and the Republican Party??

Holy SHIT this is the stuff of siglines.

:dig:


Fuck you shit head....which political party did the south belong to......democrats.

Which political party freed the slaves...the Republicans.

You are such a fucking moron.
 
Not one of your alleged sources shows that these Confederate military officers, who lived in the South, who fought Republicans....were not democrats. Your only argument is that we don't have a source for their voting habits.....and because of that you say they weren't democrats......that is fucking lame.......

Uh, I don't need to prove a NEGATIVE, Sploogie. YOU need to prove the positive. Either do it or quite whining, Dumbass.


Asswipe....explain how 6 Confederate officers never, ever voted in their entire lives.....that is on you since you claim they weren't members of a political party..........

They were around 20 years old. And were in a war until a few months before. Yeah that's quite a "voting history".

DUMBASS.


So after the war they never, ever voted in an election..........you are such a moron.....but cling to your lies...it is all you have.

"Lies"??

WHO just proposed that six guys never voted after that? I don't know what the fuck they did after that, but in 1865 --- WHEN THE FUCKING KLAN WAS FOUNDED WHICH IS WHAT THE FUCK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT --- they were twentysomething veteran soldiers who just got done with a war, living in federally occupied territory. So rotsa ruck finding their "voting records" from that time.

DUMBASS. :fu:


yeah...and I guess they never held elections in the south ever again..right asswipe........?
 
Oh, and who did the klan attack....

Ku Klux Klan - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com

For its part, the Ku Klux Klan dedicated itself to an underground campaign of violence against Republican leaders and voters (both black and white) in an effort to reverse the policies of Radical Reconstruction and restore white supremacy in the South.

Yeah....I guess they voted for the Republican party while they were hanging them.......
 
I just did. With ten different independent sources, every last one of which says you're full of shit.


You are telling us....that 6 Confederate army officers who founded the klan, in no way were members of the democrat party, the party that fought the Republicans to keep slavery in this country......now you are not only funny, you are really stupid.

I guess those army officers were actually closet Republicans...right?

What kind of Planet Moron do you come from where everyone is a member of a political party?

Once again, ten sources. They're correct. Prove me wrong.


Yes....keep telling us that the 6 founding members of the ku klux klan never voted in an election.......and that if they did vote they would have voted for Republicans.....how stupid are you? Wait, I'll answer that, very stupid.

Go fuck yourself. You've been proven wrong. Grow the fuck up.
This just in, there wasn't a whole lotta votin' goin' on in Federally occupied territory in 1865. The states were out of the Union.

I mean how the fuck stupid are you? :lmao:


The President of the Confederate States was a democrat asswipe...........

What other political party existed in the South at the time, DUMBASS?

Oh this oughta be good. :popcorn:
 
You are telling us....that 6 Confederate army officers who founded the klan, in no way were members of the democrat party, the party that fought the Republicans to keep slavery in this country......now you are not only funny, you are really stupid.

I guess those army officers were actually closet Republicans...right?

What kind of Planet Moron do you come from where everyone is a member of a political party?

Once again, ten sources. They're correct. Prove me wrong.


Yes....keep telling us that the 6 founding members of the ku klux klan never voted in an election.......and that if they did vote they would have voted for Republicans.....how stupid are you? Wait, I'll answer that, very stupid.

Go fuck yourself. You've been proven wrong. Grow the fuck up.
This just in, there wasn't a whole lotta votin' goin' on in Federally occupied territory in 1865. The states were out of the Union.

I mean how the fuck stupid are you? :lmao:


The President of the Confederate States was a democrat asswipe...........

What other political party existed in the South at the time, DUMBASS?

Oh this oughta be good. :popcorn:

I'm done with you asswipe.......peddle your lies to your obamachumps....
 
Pissyante still valiantly holding on to his one bogus link even after getting ass whupped in the past.
Masochism... I just don't get it. Oh well, you asked for it, here it cometh:.
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First KKK
>> The first Klan was founded in 1865 in Pulaski, Tennessee, by six veterans of the Confederate Army.[17] The name is probably derived from the Greek word kuklos which means circle, suggesting a circle or band of brothers.[18]

Although there was little organizational structure above the local level, similar groups rose across the South and adopted the same name and methods.[19] Klan groups spread throughout the South as an insurgent movement during the Reconstruction era in the United States. As a secret vigilante group, the Klan targeted freedmen and their allies; it sought to restore white supremacy by threats and violence, including murder, against black and white Republicans.

Second KKK
... In 1915, the second Klan was founded in Atlanta, Georgia. Starting in 1921, it adopted a modern business system of recruiting (which paid most of the initiation fee and costume charges as commissions to the organizers) and grew rapidly nationwide at a time of prosperity. Reflecting the social tensions of urban industrialization and vastly increased immigration, its membership grew most rapidly in cities, and spread out of the South to the Midwest and West. The second KKK preached "One Hundred Percent Americanism" and demanded the purification of politics, calling for strict morality and better enforcement of prohibition. Its official rhetoric focused on the threat of the Catholic Church, using anti-Catholicism and nativism.[4] Its appeal was directed exclusively at white Protestants.[21]​

...Third KKK
The "Ku Klux Klan" name was used by a numerous independent local groups opposing the Civil Rights Movement and desegregation, especially in the 1950s and 1960s. During this period, they often forged alliances with Southern police departments, as in Birmingham, Alabama; or with governor's offices, as with George Wallace of Alabama.[25] Several members of KKK groups were convicted of murder in the deaths of civil rights workers and children in the bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham. << (Wiki)

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The Present Day Ku Klux Klan Movement, Report by the Committee on Un-American Activities, House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, First Session, December 11, 1967

>> The six Confederate army veterans credited with originating the Ku Klux Klan on Christmas Eve of 1865 in Pulaski, Tenn. are not memorialized in current klan literature. ... The organization to which modern klansmen pay homage was the Ku Klux Klan headed by Nathan Bedford Forrest, which officially operated in at least nine Southern states from 1867 to 1869 and unofficially for some years thereafter.

The conversion of klan purposes from amusement to terrorism had already been demonstrated by the time representatives of the local klan "dens" held a unifying convention in Nashville, Tenn., in 1867 and elected former Confederate Army General Forrest as their grand wizard. << (two...)
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Extremism in America/ADL

>> About the Ku Klux Klan
The Ku Klux Klan is a racist, anti-Semitic movement with a commitment to extreme violence to achieve its goals of racial segregation and white supremacy.
... At first, the Ku Klux Klan focused its anger and violence on African-Americans, on white Americans who stood up for them, and against the federal government which supported their rights. Subsequent incarnations of the Klan, which typically emerged in times of rapid social change, added more categories to its enemies list, including Jews, Catholics (less so after the 1970s), homosexuals, and different groups of immigrants.


Founder: Confederate Civil War veterans Captain John C. Lester, Major James R. Crowe, John D. Kennedy, Calvin Jones, Richard R. Reed, Frank O. McCord << (three....)
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In Pulaski, Tennessee, a group of Confederate veterans convenes to form a secret society that they christen the "Ku Klux Klan." The KKK rapidly grew from a secret social fraternity to a paramilitary force bent on reversing the federal government's progressive Reconstruction Era-activities in the South, especially policies that elevated the rights of the local African American population.

The name of the Ku Klux Klan was derived from the Greek word kyklos, meaning "circle," and the Scottish-Gaelic word "clan," which was probably chosen for the sake of alliteration. Under a platform of philosophized white racial superiority, the group employed violence as a means of pushing back Reconstruction and its enfranchisement of African Americans. Former Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest was the KKK's first grand wizard; in 1869, he unsuccessfully tried to disband it after he grew critical of the Klan's excessive violence. << (four....)​

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>> The original Ku Klux Klan was created in an 1865 meeting in a law office by six Confederate veterans in Pulaski, Tennessee. It was, at first, a humorous social club centering on practical jokes and hazing rituals. From 1866 to 1867, various local units began breaking up black prayer meetings and invading black homes at night to steal firearms. Some of these activities may have been modeled on previous Tennessee vigilante groups such as the Yellow Jackets and Redcaps. In an 1867 convention held in Nashville, the Klan was formalized as a national organization under a Prescript written by George Gordon, a former Confederate brigadier general.

... As historian Elaine Frantz Parsons discovered [Parsons p 816]:

"Lifting the Klan mask revealed a chaotic multitude of antiblack vigilante groups, disgruntled poor white farmers, wartime guerrilla bands, displaced Democratic politicians, illegal whiskey distillers, coercive moral reformers, bored young men, sadists, rapists, white workmen fearful of black competition, employers trying to enforce labor discipline, common thieves, neighbors with decades-old grudges, and even a few freedmen and white Republicans who allied with Democratic whites or had criminal agendas of their own." << (five....)
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>> The first Klan was created by six men from Pulaski Tennessee, in the image of other secret societies of the day. The hierarchical organization with local chapters housed under a national umbressa [sic] structure.

... History and context:

The first KKK was formed in the American South at the end of the civil war, when the victorious Union government imposed a version of martial law on the south and began to enforce laws designed to end segregation against black citizens. When a constitutional amendment granted black men the right to vote in 1870, the group turned to intimidation and violence to try to halt de-segregation. << (six...)​

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>> Started during Reconstruction at the end of the Civil War, the Klan quickly mobilized as a vigilante group to intimidate Southern blacks - and any whites who would help them - and to prevent them from enjoying basic civil rights. << (seven...)​

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>> The original Ku Klux Klan was organized by ex-Confederate elements to oppose the Reconstruction policies of the radical Republican Congress and to maintain "white supremacy." After the Civil War, when local government in the South was weak or nonexistent and there were fears of black outrages and even of an insurrection, informal vigilante organizations or armed patrols were formed in almost all communities. These were linked together in societies, such as the Men of Justice, the Pale Faces, the Constitutional Union Guards, the White Brotherhood, and the Order of the White Rose. The Ku Klux Klan was the best known of these, and in time it absorbed many of the smaller organizations. << (eight....)​

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>> The 19th-century Klan was originally organized as a social club by Confederate veterans in Pulaski, Tenn., in 1866. They apparently derived the name from the Greek word kyklos, from which comes the English circle; Klan was added for the sake of alliteration and Ku Klux Klan emerged. The organization quickly became a vehicle for Southern white underground resistance to Radical Reconstruction. Klan members sought the restoration of white supremacy through intimidation and violence aimed at the newly enfranchised black freedmen. A similar organization, the Knights of the White Camelia, began in Louisiana in 1867. << (nine...)

Oh no we ain't done. I know you're illiterate, living on Googly images, so here's a real picture, of a real plaque, placed by the real Daughters of the Confederacy, on the real law office where the KKK was founded in real Pulaski, with the real names of the real founders:

plaque1_6.gif

-- which you'll notice match exactly my text above.

You lose.
My, that was a mix and match bunch of lies and truths, but the simple truth is, DEMOCRATS formed the KKK to intimidate BLACKS and REPUBLICANS.... ROTFLMFAO, you did all this bullshit, and got bitch slapped again, because DemocRATS formed the KKK! ...... Want to try again? I can always pull up that whole THREAD!

I just did. With ten different independent sources, every last one of which says you're full of shit.


Not one of your alleged sources shows that these Confederate military officers, who lived in the South, who fought Republicans....were not democrats. Your only argument is that we don't have a source for their voting habits.....and because of that you say they weren't democrats......that is fucking lame.......

Uh, I don't need to prove a NEGATIVE, Sploogie. YOU need to prove the positive. Either do it or quite whining, Dumbass.

Moreover you're moving these goalposts just as you moved "1964" to 1957. The original claim was that the Klan was founded BY A POLITICAL PARTY. Which it clearly was not. And that goes for the original Klan, the second Klan (1915, the one we're most familiar with) AND the third one (1946, Samuel Green).


No fuck head....I explained the fact that the 1964 Civil Rights act was only one of many Civil Rights acts.....that you racists hide because it destroys the meme that the Republicans are racists.....since they supported the other Civil Rights acts and only some of them hesitated to vote for the 64 act because of the accomodation laws and the hiring laws that create our current problems...they were right....just ask the wedding bakers, photographers and pizza makers who are losing their businesses to it......

I've brought up absolutely zero about "Republicans are racists" or "wedding bakers" or "pizza makers". Not here, not anywhere else.

So again, you're cordially invited to go fuck yourself.
 
What kind of Planet Moron do you come from where everyone is a member of a political party?

Once again, ten sources. They're correct. Prove me wrong.


Yes....keep telling us that the 6 founding members of the ku klux klan never voted in an election.......and that if they did vote they would have voted for Republicans.....how stupid are you? Wait, I'll answer that, very stupid.

Go fuck yourself. You've been proven wrong. Grow the fuck up.
This just in, there wasn't a whole lotta votin' goin' on in Federally occupied territory in 1865. The states were out of the Union.

I mean how the fuck stupid are you? :lmao:


The President of the Confederate States was a democrat asswipe...........

What other political party existed in the South at the time, DUMBASS?

Oh this oughta be good. :popcorn:

I'm done with you asswipe.......peddle your lies to your obamachumps....

Run away, little girl. You lost.

Let's reveal the answer to our studio audience and all the folks watching at home. The Republican party didn't even exist in the South in the 1860s. It was only founded in 1854 and Lincoln was its second Presidential candidate. The RP printed no ballots in the South. In that time you didn't go to the poll, see a grand list of all candidates and make your selection --- you picked up a ballot from the party you wanted to vote for (with the exception of South Carolina, which didn't even have a popular vote). And it was that party's responsibility to supply ballots. The RP didn't do that in the South, neither in 1860 nor in 1864 (nor 1856 before that). So Lincoln got zero votes in the South in 1860 and ended up with zero electoral votes --- exactly the same number the Democrat Douglas got. Zero.

Go buy a fucking history book.
 
Yes....keep telling us that the 6 founding members of the ku klux klan never voted in an election.......and that if they did vote they would have voted for Republicans.....how stupid are you? Wait, I'll answer that, very stupid.

Go fuck yourself. You've been proven wrong. Grow the fuck up.
This just in, there wasn't a whole lotta votin' goin' on in Federally occupied territory in 1865. The states were out of the Union.

I mean how the fuck stupid are you? :lmao:


The President of the Confederate States was a democrat asswipe...........

What other political party existed in the South at the time, DUMBASS?

Oh this oughta be good. :popcorn:

I'm done with you asswipe.......peddle your lies to your obamachumps....

Run away, little girl. You lost.

Let's reveal the answer to our studio audience and all the folks watching at home. The Republican party didn't even exist in the South in the 1860s. It was only founded in 1854 and Lincoln was its second Presidential candidate. The RP printed no ballots in the South. In that time you didn't go to the poll, see a grand list of all candidates and make your selection --- you picked up a ballot from the party you wanted to vote for (with the exception of South Carolina, which didn't even have a popular vote). And it was that party's responsibility to supply ballots. The RP didn't do that in the South, neither in 1860 nor in 1864 (nor 1856 before that). So Lincoln got zero votes in the South and ended up with zero electoral votes --- exactly the same number the Democrat Douglas got. Zero.


Asswipe, no one would stand for the Republican party in the south...what an asswipe....that is why he got zero votes in the south dipshit....you had to state which party you would be a delegate for and no southerner was going to stand up in the south and say they were going to vote republican....you lying asshole.
 
Go fuck yourself. You've been proven wrong. Grow the fuck up.
This just in, there wasn't a whole lotta votin' goin' on in Federally occupied territory in 1865. The states were out of the Union.

I mean how the fuck stupid are you? :lmao:


The President of the Confederate States was a democrat asswipe...........

What other political party existed in the South at the time, DUMBASS?

Oh this oughta be good. :popcorn:

I'm done with you asswipe.......peddle your lies to your obamachumps....

Run away, little girl. You lost.

Let's reveal the answer to our studio audience and all the folks watching at home. The Republican party didn't even exist in the South in the 1860s. It was only founded in 1854 and Lincoln was its second Presidential candidate. The RP printed no ballots in the South. In that time you didn't go to the poll, see a grand list of all candidates and make your selection --- you picked up a ballot from the party you wanted to vote for (with the exception of South Carolina, which didn't even have a popular vote). And it was that party's responsibility to supply ballots. The RP didn't do that in the South, neither in 1860 nor in 1864 (nor 1856 before that). So Lincoln got zero votes in the South and ended up with zero electoral votes --- exactly the same number the Democrat Douglas got. Zero.


Asswipe, no one would stand for the Republican party in the south...what an asswipe....that is why he got zero votes in the south dipshit....you had to state which party you would be a delegate for and no southerner was going to stand up in the south and say they were going to vote republican....


Correct, they weren't about to do that since no such party existed there at the time.
And btw it's "Republican". Proper name, capital letter.
 
The President of the Confederate States was a democrat asswipe...........

What other political party existed in the South at the time, DUMBASS?

Oh this oughta be good. :popcorn:

I'm done with you asswipe.......peddle your lies to your obamachumps....

Run away, little girl. You lost.

Let's reveal the answer to our studio audience and all the folks watching at home. The Republican party didn't even exist in the South in the 1860s. It was only founded in 1854 and Lincoln was its second Presidential candidate. The RP printed no ballots in the South. In that time you didn't go to the poll, see a grand list of all candidates and make your selection --- you picked up a ballot from the party you wanted to vote for (with the exception of South Carolina, which didn't even have a popular vote). And it was that party's responsibility to supply ballots. The RP didn't do that in the South, neither in 1860 nor in 1864 (nor 1856 before that). So Lincoln got zero votes in the South and ended up with zero electoral votes --- exactly the same number the Democrat Douglas got. Zero.


Asswipe, no one would stand for the Republican party in the south...what an asswipe....that is why he got zero votes in the south dipshit....you had to state which party you would be a delegate for and no southerner was going to stand up in the south and say they were going to vote republican....


Correct, they weren't about to do that since no such party existed there at the time.
And btw it's "Republican". Proper name, capital letter.


Asswipe...here you go....

United States presidential election, 1860 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In the eleven states that would later declare their secession from the Union and be controlled by Confederate armies, ballots for Lincoln were cast only in Virginia,[34][35]where he received only 1.1 percent of the popular vote.[30][36]

In order to distribute ballots in a state, candidates needed citizens in that state who would pledge to vote for the candidate in the Electoral College. In ten southern slave states, no citizens would publicly pledge such support for Lincoln.
 

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