Parents rush son to Ontario for emergency care after 15-hour wait at Montreal hospital

[Donald H]

You are kidding us now. I won't forget the American who went to Burger King and ordered food and then politely asked the guy behind the cash where the additional large amount came from. The cashier had to tell him "plus taxes". The guys response was a calm, matter-of-fact, "oh, that's different" because it was far more than he expected. I had a little smile and wanted to say "imagine how we feel? You're only visiting". Remember, that was on a food order.

Taxation is necessary. Those who are concerned would do well with directing their efforts toward where taxes are collected by government and who pays them.

For example: My personal priorities would include heavy taxation on tobacco and alcohol. And now with climate change upon us, I'm starting to see the wisdom in heavier taxation on gasoline, in order to reduce the amount of driving around for fun and pleasure.

There are many more pros and cons on taxation but people like you have no concept of what can make it 'fair' taxation.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Tell us again how the police and authorties are scheming to kill you!

Huh? You trying to plant a seed in my head?

 

[shockedcanadian]

Tell us again how the police and authorties are scheming to kill you!

You know it is interesting that my wife told me more than once that she was working with the police against me. She also said one of her cousins who works in an outreach program was also a cop. Peculiarly, she graduated in Police Foundations. This person ironically was also given a Peace Bond for assaulting her BF in public.

The police didn't ask me for evidence, nor did the Crown, even after they were aware of years of daily abuse, either verbally, physically, destruction of my property and/or vile.threats and false allegations against me. Tell me what you believe the police are trying to do, considering I have so many names and details and they actively engaged in my workplace at IBM and a Canadian bank. I'd love to trust my country and the agencies, but I've experienced too much...

 

[Seymour Flops]

Police States aren't good at healthcare or civil liberties. You sure you want to be like us?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/christos-lianos-emergency-room-montreal-wait-1.6900615

Christos Lianos is recovering from complications related to a burst appendix. Though he is a student in Montreal, he received care in Kingston, Ont.

That's because his parents rushed him to his hometown after waiting 15 hours in the Royal Victoria Hospital's emergency room.

Lianos, 20, said he doesn't like thinking about what might have happened to him if he had stayed in Montreal, waiting for care that didn't seem to be coming.

"If I had gone home or stayed for, who knows how long in that waiting room, what could have happened to me?" he asked. "Would I be here today?"

It was mid-June when Lianos started experiencing significant abdominal pain and a high fever. He had been feeling off for a few days, but had taken a turn for the worse the night of June 14. So, he called his parents.

"Automatically, me and my husband, we thought: 'My God, that sounds like his appendix,'" said Niki Lianos, Christos's mother.

Driving 3 hours for care​

Niki Lianos told her son to go to the hospital immediately. And then she and her husband drove three hours from Kingston to be with him.

In the 15 hours he was at the hospital, which is part of the McGill University Health Centre (MUHC), nurses checked on him twice to assess his symptoms and gave him Tylenol every six hours for the pain, the family said.

Lianos said she lost her patience and yelled at the nurse, saying had she known they'd be waiting for so long, they would have gone back to Kingston for treatment.

This is our future. Except that when we drive our kid to an emergency room in our home town, it will be clogged with illegal aliens seeking primary care.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Police States aren't good at healthcare or civil liberties. You sure you want to be like us?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/christos-lianos-emergency-room-montreal-wait-1.6900615

Christos Lianos is recovering from complications related to a burst appendix. Though he is a student in Montreal, he received care in Kingston, Ont.

That's because his parents rushed him to his hometown after waiting 15 hours in the Royal Victoria Hospital's emergency room.

Lianos, 20, said he doesn't like thinking about what might have happened to him if he had stayed in Montreal, waiting for care that didn't seem to be coming.

"If I had gone home or stayed for, who knows how long in that waiting room, what could have happened to me?" he asked. "Would I be here today?"

It was mid-June when Lianos started experiencing significant abdominal pain and a high fever. He had been feeling off for a few days, but had taken a turn for the worse the night of June 14. So, he called his parents.

"Automatically, me and my husband, we thought: 'My God, that sounds like his appendix,'" said Niki Lianos, Christos's mother.

Driving 3 hours for care​

Niki Lianos told her son to go to the hospital immediately. And then she and her husband drove three hours from Kingston to be with him.

In the 15 hours he was at the hospital, which is part of the McGill University Health Centre (MUHC), nurses checked on him twice to assess his symptoms and gave him Tylenol every six hours for the pain, the family said.

Lianos said she lost her patience and yelled at the nurse, saying had she known they'd be waiting for so long, they would have gone back to Kingston for treatment.

Two doctors were working overnight between June 14 and 15, which is the usual staffing, she said. During the day on the 15th, the standard crew was on duty — three doctors and a medical co-ordinator, she added.

On June 14, the ER was at 197 per cent capacity, with more than 30 patients from the previous evening still waiting to be seen, Burns said.

“Those patients were of higher priority or had been there longer,” she said.

On June 15, ER occupancy hovered around 200 per cent, peaking at 225 per cent.

NO hospital anywhere could have prevented that, given the circumstances.

Look how many US patients died while waiting for a bed during COVID.

 

[ninja007]

12 hr waits at emerg in ontario.

 

[Markle]

A 15 hour wait for a burst appendix?

As you know, the waiting time in Canada for a primary care physician, referral to a specialist and when you get to see the specialist are agonizingly long.

Of course, Canada does offer to euthanize you so there is that alternative!!

 

[Markle]

No exception. Socialized health care works very well for the military of both Canada and America.

Here are wait times in Canada it is terrible and getting worse. Of course, euthanasia is always an option in Canada.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Common in America

Common in America? Not in my experience. Serious conditions get bumped to the front of the line immediately. Someone with a minor cut or even a fracture might wait hours, but not something as potentially as lethal as an inflamed appendix.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Taxation is necessary. Those who are concerned would do well with directing their efforts toward where taxes are collected by government and who pays them.

For example: My personal priorities would include heavy taxation on tobacco and alcohol. And now with climate change upon us, I'm starting to see the wisdom in heavier taxation on gasoline, in order to reduce the amount of driving around for fun and pleasure.

There are many more pros and cons on taxation but people like you have no concept of what can make it 'fair' taxation.

Minimal taxation in necessary. Taxes should be assessed to provide only minimal ESSENTIAL government services. Not to punish or reward social behavior.

 

[Donald H]

Minimal taxation in necessary. Taxes should be assessed to provide only minimal ESSENTIAL government services. Not to punish or reward social behavior.

You don't elaborate but you're basically wrong to start anyway.
And you have a track record of being a spammer who doesn't care to dig into any issue in any case.
Let me know if you ever get serious.