Parental Stupidity + Gun Cleaning = Dead Kid

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    Marysville girl shot in head dies | Top Stories | KING5.com | News for Seattle, Washington

    This is not a “Ban Guns” Post but a “Personal Responsibility” Post. As a dad I read this news story and became incredibly pissed off because I know how it’s going to go. The Dad and mom are going to feel horrible but as this was an “accident” no one will need to take responsibility and the father has been “punished enough” due to the loss of his daughter.

    Look, I am not a gun guy but I am a car guy and there is no way I am going to let a 6 year old around me while I am pulling an engine or arc welding. In the event that I make the dumb ass call that my kid at 6 is old enough to help me with the cherry picker and she ends up getting crushed by a 350 small block, it’s MY fault pure and simple. I will have made a totally irresponsible parenting decision and I should be punished for it.

    Family won’t be better off with the dad in Jail but he should lose parental rights of the 2 remaining kids as he has been shown to be an absolute failure at the main rule for parenting, getting your kids to 18 alive.
     
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    So then as soon as some welfare queen makes a mistake with one of her kids... or as soon as some whack job exposes one of their kids to unscrupulous characters that eventually leads to their harm... that parent should inherently lose their rights to their kids as well??

    All of us, and I do mean ALL OF US, will make mistakes with our kids.. mistakes in judgment, mistakes in teaching, mistakes in supervision, etc... hopefully none of us make a mistake big enough to take that child's life... but unless that parent is completely negligent or purposely causes harm to the child, I don't think we make rushed judgments to take away that person's other children
     
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    If it directly results in the child's death, yes.
     
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    and what about if your vice president and almost blow your buddys face off...but for the grace of god..should you still get to be vice president
     
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    Sure, it the idiot dosn't press charges. Besides, as an adult the guy kind of assumed some of the risk being around a maniac who likes killing disoriented birds with a shotgun.

    The veep wasn't responsible for the guys saftey on a parental level.
     
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    that IS what happens. If you harm your child through negligence you lose custoday of your remaining children or you should, until such time as you can prove you are fit.
     
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    I've had a former neighbor that had his child killed when that kid ran into the road... they guy was not paying attention for a few minutes when he was talking to a neighbor... is that person to have his other kids taken away?

    Accidents happen... and unfortunately, a very few will result in the most tragic thing possible... this guy meant no harm in an activity that has some 'danger' involved, but is getting wayyyyy more attention simply because it is a weapon... this is ridiculous

    We can't take every other child away from parents who lose a child to a pure accident....
     
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    What about proving you are unfit in the first place... a mistake does not inherently make someone an unfit parent
     
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    you are comparing apples to oranges DD and you know it. A child darting into the road and being hit by a car is not even in the same sphere as cleaning a LOADED GUN around a 6 year old child and accidently shooting that child in the head. nor is it the same as leaving the child unattended and/or placing them into contact with individuals who would harm them.

    What the hell kind of IDIOT 1) cleans his guns with his child in the room and 2) doesn't make sure there isn't a bullet in the chamber? I'm no gun owner and even I know that much about gun safety for fuck sake :cuckoo:

    seems to me that the NRA's refuse to acknowledge that guns are dangerous in the hands of idiots and in the presence of children.
     
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    any parent who would clean a loaded weapon with his 6 year old child in the room IS unfit AND stupid as fuck.
     

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