Palestine NEVER EXISTED!

[Shusha]

Monte always brings up the maternal studies because the paternal studies show that nearly all Jews have roots in the Territory.

 

[montelatici]

Monte always brings up the maternal studies because the paternal studies show that nearly all Jews have roots in the Territory.

No, the paternal studies show that Mediterranean and Armenian (obviously) people have similar DNA markers. Greeks, Italians, French and Armenians, have similar or closer genetic ties to the territory than European Jews. As shown in the graph below. (Closest to the bottom closest to Middle East).

 

[Hollie]

Monte always brings up the maternal studies because the paternal studies show that nearly all Jews have roots in the Territory.

No, the paternal studies show that Mediterranean and Armenian (obviously) people have similar DNA markers. Greeks, Italians, French and Armenians, have similar or closer genetic ties to the territory than European Jews. As shown in the graph below. (Closest to the bottom closest to Middle East).

"Greeks, Italians, French and Armenians, have similar or closer genetic ties to the territory than European Jews."

That's rather damning testimony when you insist on the false narrative of the "indigenous Arabs".

We're seeing the genetic history of the European xtain Crusaders.

 

[Roudy]

That is your voodoo history. It has nothing to do with the facts.
Jews (people from Asia Minor) who moved elsewhere in Asia, or to Europe or the Americas, etc......are still indigenous of the area they came from.

The same goes for anyone whose ancestors are from any part of the world.

It is ONLY with the Jewish people, that this Fable about Jews being of European descent, indigenous of Europe, occurs.

It occurs because of the hatred brought on the Jewish people by Christianity and then Islam.

NO ONE else, no other religions attempt to steal the Jewish identity from their rightful owners.

ONLY people like yourself.

The indigenous Jews converted to Christianity. Why can't you accept the facts. LOL

Half the population of Israel are middle eastern / sephardic Jews or decedents of. The European Jews are Jews who migrated West after the destruction of the Temples. How did the European Jews become Jews, someone waved a wand? Or they are decendents of Jews who migrated? Logic would dictate the latter. Israel is the religious, cultural, and ancestral holy land of the Jews, and will stay so. There are over six million Jews in their holy land now, and they ain't going anywhere, short of a nuclear holocaust.

Genetics confirm that Europeans converted to Judaism. The converts had no genetic ties to the Middle East much less Palestine. The Jews in Israel will end up like the whites in South Africa, the French in Algeria and the whites in Rhodesia. It will just take more time.

European Women at Root of Ashkenazi Family Tree

Genes Suggest European Women at Root of Ashkenazi Family Tree

And there are studies that prove otherwise. Tell us how the European Jews became Jews, did someone wave a wand? Or were they Jews that migrated to Europe and stayed Jewish, and practiced their faith and culture. The answer is obvious. Judaism and the Jewish people started in the Middle East. There have not been any Jewish converts or forced conversions into the religion as with Islam and Christianity.

Only propaganda studies show otherwise.

By the way, as one of the Zionutters of the forum, are the Ashkenazis really Jews at all, given that 80% had non-Jewish mothers as ancestors at some point. LOL More to the point, why would these Europeans have more right to live in Palestine than the indigenous people (the Muslim and Christian Palestinians) whose ancestors were actually real Jews indigenous to Palestine?

"European Women at Root of Ashkenazi Family Tree
Overall, at least 80 percent of Ashkenazi maternal ancestry comes from women indigenous to Europe, and 8 percent from the Near East..."

Genes Suggest European Women at Root of Ashkenazi Family Tree

Yada yada yada. Repetitive propaganda from antisemtic terrorist loving Flat Earthers . Again, how did European Jews become Jews, if they aren't decendants of ancient Jews who migranted West after the destruction of Temple? Did someone wave a wand? Forced mass conversions by Europeans into Judaism of which there is no historical record for?

 

[Roudy]

Monte always brings up the maternal studies because the paternal studies show that nearly all Jews have roots in the Territory.

No, the paternal studies show that Mediterranean and Armenian (obviously) people have similar DNA markers. Greeks, Italians, French and Armenians, have similar or closer genetic ties to the territory than European Jews. As shown in the graph below. (Closest to the bottom closest to Middle East).

Same shallow minded garbage and propaganda, over and over, suitable for mental midgets. Judaism originated in Israel, and today's Jews are descendants of those people. Muslims aren't Jews, neither are Christians.

 

[montelatici]

The indigenous Jews converted to Christianity. Why can't you accept the facts. LOL

Half the population of Israel are middle eastern / sephardic Jews or decedents of. The European Jews are Jews who migrated West after the destruction of the Temples. How did the European Jews become Jews, someone waved a wand? Or they are decendents of Jews who migrated? Logic would dictate the latter. Israel is the religious, cultural, and ancestral holy land of the Jews, and will stay so. There are over six million Jews in their holy land now, and they ain't going anywhere, short of a nuclear holocaust.

Genetics confirm that Europeans converted to Judaism. The converts had no genetic ties to the Middle East much less Palestine. The Jews in Israel will end up like the whites in South Africa, the French in Algeria and the whites in Rhodesia. It will just take more time.

European Women at Root of Ashkenazi Family Tree

Genes Suggest European Women at Root of Ashkenazi Family Tree

And there are studies that prove otherwise. Tell us how the European Jews became Jews, did someone wave a wand? Or were they Jews that migrated to Europe and stayed Jewish, and practiced their faith and culture. The answer is obvious. Judaism and the Jewish people started in the Middle East. There have not been any Jewish converts or forced conversions into the religion as with Islam and Christianity.

Only propaganda studies show otherwise.

By the way, as one of the Zionutters of the forum, are the Ashkenazis really Jews at all, given that 80% had non-Jewish mothers as ancestors at some point. LOL More to the point, why would these Europeans have more right to live in Palestine than the indigenous people (the Muslim and Christian Palestinians) whose ancestors were actually real Jews indigenous to Palestine?

"European Women at Root of Ashkenazi Family Tree
Overall, at least 80 percent of Ashkenazi maternal ancestry comes from women indigenous to Europe, and 8 percent from the Near East..."

Genes Suggest European Women at Root of Ashkenazi Family Tree

Yada yada yada. Repetitive propaganda from antisemtic terrorist loving Flat Earthers . Again, how did European Jews become Jews, if they aren't decendants of ancient Jews who migranted West after the destruction of Temple? Did someone wave a wand? Forced mass conversions by Europeans into Judaism of which there is no historical record for?

Europeans converted to Judaism, that's how. Nearly all, if not all Jews in Palestine converted to Christianity before the Muslim conquest. After all, only Christians could live in the Roman Province of Palestine after 380 AD, so Jews, Samaritans and Pagans converted to Christianity.

"Most Ashkenazi Jews are descendants of European women who converted to Judaism............"
read more: Study traces Ashkenazi roots to European women who probably converted to Judaism

 

[Roudy]

Half the population of Israel are middle eastern / sephardic Jews or decedents of. The European Jews are Jews who migrated West after the destruction of the Temples. How did the European Jews become Jews, someone waved a wand? Or they are decendents of Jews who migrated? Logic would dictate the latter. Israel is the religious, cultural, and ancestral holy land of the Jews, and will stay so. There are over six million Jews in their holy land now, and they ain't going anywhere, short of a nuclear holocaust.

Genetics confirm that Europeans converted to Judaism. The converts had no genetic ties to the Middle East much less Palestine. The Jews in Israel will end up like the whites in South Africa, the French in Algeria and the whites in Rhodesia. It will just take more time.

European Women at Root of Ashkenazi Family Tree

Genes Suggest European Women at Root of Ashkenazi Family Tree

And there are studies that prove otherwise. Tell us how the European Jews became Jews, did someone wave a wand? Or were they Jews that migrated to Europe and stayed Jewish, and practiced their faith and culture. The answer is obvious. Judaism and the Jewish people started in the Middle East. There have not been any Jewish converts or forced conversions into the religion as with Islam and Christianity.

Only propaganda studies show otherwise.

By the way, as one of the Zionutters of the forum, are the Ashkenazis really Jews at all, given that 80% had non-Jewish mothers as ancestors at some point. LOL More to the point, why would these Europeans have more right to live in Palestine than the indigenous people (the Muslim and Christian Palestinians) whose ancestors were actually real Jews indigenous to Palestine?

"European Women at Root of Ashkenazi Family Tree
Overall, at least 80 percent of Ashkenazi maternal ancestry comes from women indigenous to Europe, and 8 percent from the Near East..."

Genes Suggest European Women at Root of Ashkenazi Family Tree

Yada yada yada. Repetitive propaganda from antisemtic terrorist loving Flat Earthers . Again, how did European Jews become Jews, if they aren't decendants of ancient Jews who migranted West after the destruction of Temple? Did someone wave a wand? Forced mass conversions by Europeans into Judaism of which there is no historical record for?

Europeans converted to Judaism, that's how. Nearly all, if not all Jews in Palestine converted to Christianity before the Muslim conquest. After all, only Christians could live in the Roman Province of Palestine after 380 AD, so Jews, Samaritans and Pagans converted to Christianity.

"Most Ashkenazi Jews are descendants of European women who converted to Judaism............"
read more: Study traces Ashkenazi roots to European women who probably converted to Judaism

Bullcrrap, there is absolutely no record whatsoever that today's European Jews are descendants of converts. Nothing, nein, nada, nyet, kaput, zip, zero. Only a mentally ill antisemitic moron would make such an absurd claim.

 

[montelatici]

Genetics confirm that Europeans converted to Judaism. The converts had no genetic ties to the Middle East much less Palestine. The Jews in Israel will end up like the whites in South Africa, the French in Algeria and the whites in Rhodesia. It will just take more time.

European Women at Root of Ashkenazi Family Tree

Genes Suggest European Women at Root of Ashkenazi Family Tree

And there are studies that prove otherwise. Tell us how the European Jews became Jews, did someone wave a wand? Or were they Jews that migrated to Europe and stayed Jewish, and practiced their faith and culture. The answer is obvious. Judaism and the Jewish people started in the Middle East. There have not been any Jewish converts or forced conversions into the religion as with Islam and Christianity.

Only propaganda studies show otherwise.

By the way, as one of the Zionutters of the forum, are the Ashkenazis really Jews at all, given that 80% had non-Jewish mothers as ancestors at some point. LOL More to the point, why would these Europeans have more right to live in Palestine than the indigenous people (the Muslim and Christian Palestinians) whose ancestors were actually real Jews indigenous to Palestine?

"European Women at Root of Ashkenazi Family Tree
Overall, at least 80 percent of Ashkenazi maternal ancestry comes from women indigenous to Europe, and 8 percent from the Near East..."

Genes Suggest European Women at Root of Ashkenazi Family Tree

Yada yada yada. Repetitive propaganda from antisemtic terrorist loving Flat Earthers . Again, how did European Jews become Jews, if they aren't decendants of ancient Jews who migranted West after the destruction of Temple? Did someone wave a wand? Forced mass conversions by Europeans into Judaism of which there is no historical record for?

Europeans converted to Judaism, that's how. Nearly all, if not all Jews in Palestine converted to Christianity before the Muslim conquest. After all, only Christians could live in the Roman Province of Palestine after 380 AD, so Jews, Samaritans and Pagans converted to Christianity.

"Most Ashkenazi Jews are descendants of European women who converted to Judaism............"
read more: Study traces Ashkenazi roots to European women who probably converted to Judaism

Bullcrrap, there is absolutely no record whatsoever that today's European Jews are descendants of converts. Nothing, nein, nada, nyet, kaput, zip, zero. Only a mentally ill antisemitic moron would make such an absurd claim.

Not absurd at all, it is fact. From "Medical Daily".

"Genes Of Most Ashkenazi Jews Trace Back To Indigenous Europe, Not Middle East

Some 81 percent of genetic heritage of Ashkenazi Jews comes from indigenous Europe

Thus, the majority of Ashkenazi genetic heritage derives not from diasporic movement northward from the biblical homeland or from Near Eastern friends, but from within the indigenous peoples of Western and Central Europe."

Genes Of Most Ashkenazi Jews Trace Back To Europe, Not Middle East

 

[Roudy]

And there are studies that prove otherwise. Tell us how the European Jews became Jews, did someone wave a wand? Or were they Jews that migrated to Europe and stayed Jewish, and practiced their faith and culture. The answer is obvious. Judaism and the Jewish people started in the Middle East. There have not been any Jewish converts or forced conversions into the religion as with Islam and Christianity.

Only propaganda studies show otherwise.

By the way, as one of the Zionutters of the forum, are the Ashkenazis really Jews at all, given that 80% had non-Jewish mothers as ancestors at some point. LOL More to the point, why would these Europeans have more right to live in Palestine than the indigenous people (the Muslim and Christian Palestinians) whose ancestors were actually real Jews indigenous to Palestine?

"European Women at Root of Ashkenazi Family Tree
Overall, at least 80 percent of Ashkenazi maternal ancestry comes from women indigenous to Europe, and 8 percent from the Near East..."

Genes Suggest European Women at Root of Ashkenazi Family Tree

Yada yada yada. Repetitive propaganda from antisemtic terrorist loving Flat Earthers . Again, how did European Jews become Jews, if they aren't decendants of ancient Jews who migranted West after the destruction of Temple? Did someone wave a wand? Forced mass conversions by Europeans into Judaism of which there is no historical record for?

Europeans converted to Judaism, that's how. Nearly all, if not all Jews in Palestine converted to Christianity before the Muslim conquest. After all, only Christians could live in the Roman Province of Palestine after 380 AD, so Jews, Samaritans and Pagans converted to Christianity.

"Most Ashkenazi Jews are descendants of European women who converted to Judaism............"
read more: Study traces Ashkenazi roots to European women who probably converted to Judaism

Bullcrrap, there is absolutely no record whatsoever that today's European Jews are descendants of converts. Nothing, nein, nada, nyet, kaput, zip, zero. Only a mentally ill antisemitic moron would make such an absurd claim.

Not absurd at all, it is fact. From "Medical Daily".

"Genes Of Most Ashkenazi Jews Trace Back To Indigenous Europe, Not Middle East

Some 81 percent of genetic heritage of Ashkenazi Jews comes from indigenous Europe

Thus, the majority of Ashkenazi genetic heritage derives not from diasporic movement northward from the biblical homeland or from Near Eastern friends, but from within the indigenous peoples of Western and Central Europe."

Genes Of Most Ashkenazi Jews Trace Back To Europe, Not Middle East

Bullshit! When, where, and how did these European Jews become Jews? Considering the only way you are considered Jewish for the last 3000 years is if your mother was one. Judaism originated in the Middle East and those who are Jewish today are descendants of those people. There is no other way! You can squirm and post all kinds of garbage studies that you want.

 

[montelatici]

Only propaganda studies show otherwise.

By the way, as one of the Zionutters of the forum, are the Ashkenazis really Jews at all, given that 80% had non-Jewish mothers as ancestors at some point. LOL More to the point, why would these Europeans have more right to live in Palestine than the indigenous people (the Muslim and Christian Palestinians) whose ancestors were actually real Jews indigenous to Palestine?

"European Women at Root of Ashkenazi Family Tree
Overall, at least 80 percent of Ashkenazi maternal ancestry comes from women indigenous to Europe, and 8 percent from the Near East..."

Genes Suggest European Women at Root of Ashkenazi Family Tree

Yada yada yada. Repetitive propaganda from antisemtic terrorist loving Flat Earthers . Again, how did European Jews become Jews, if they aren't decendants of ancient Jews who migranted West after the destruction of Temple? Did someone wave a wand? Forced mass conversions by Europeans into Judaism of which there is no historical record for?

Europeans converted to Judaism, that's how. Nearly all, if not all Jews in Palestine converted to Christianity before the Muslim conquest. After all, only Christians could live in the Roman Province of Palestine after 380 AD, so Jews, Samaritans and Pagans converted to Christianity.

"Most Ashkenazi Jews are descendants of European women who converted to Judaism............"
read more: Study traces Ashkenazi roots to European women who probably converted to Judaism

Bullcrrap, there is absolutely no record whatsoever that today's European Jews are descendants of converts. Nothing, nein, nada, nyet, kaput, zip, zero. Only a mentally ill antisemitic moron would make such an absurd claim.

Not absurd at all, it is fact. From "Medical Daily".

"Genes Of Most Ashkenazi Jews Trace Back To Indigenous Europe, Not Middle East

Some 81 percent of genetic heritage of Ashkenazi Jews comes from indigenous Europe

Thus, the majority of Ashkenazi genetic heritage derives not from diasporic movement northward from the biblical homeland or from Near Eastern friends, but from within the indigenous peoples of Western and Central Europe."

Genes Of Most Ashkenazi Jews Trace Back To Europe, Not Middle East

Bullshit! When, where, and how did these European Jews become Jews? Considering the only way you are considered Jewish for the last 3000 years is if your mother was one. Judaism originated in the Middle East and those who are Jewish today are descendants of those people. There is no other way! You can squirm and post all kinds of garbage studies that you want.

"Considering the only way you are considered Jewish for the last 3000 years is if your mother was one. "

Exactly, they aren't real Jews. That's the point. You can't squirm your way out of it.

 

[Roudy]

Yada yada yada. Repetitive propaganda from antisemtic terrorist loving Flat Earthers . Again, how did European Jews become Jews, if they aren't decendants of ancient Jews who migranted West after the destruction of Temple? Did someone wave a wand? Forced mass conversions by Europeans into Judaism of which there is no historical record for?

Europeans converted to Judaism, that's how. Nearly all, if not all Jews in Palestine converted to Christianity before the Muslim conquest. After all, only Christians could live in the Roman Province of Palestine after 380 AD, so Jews, Samaritans and Pagans converted to Christianity.

"Most Ashkenazi Jews are descendants of European women who converted to Judaism............"
read more: Study traces Ashkenazi roots to European women who probably converted to Judaism

Bullcrrap, there is absolutely no record whatsoever that today's European Jews are descendants of converts. Nothing, nein, nada, nyet, kaput, zip, zero. Only a mentally ill antisemitic moron would make such an absurd claim.

Not absurd at all, it is fact. From "Medical Daily".

"Genes Of Most Ashkenazi Jews Trace Back To Indigenous Europe, Not Middle East

Some 81 percent of genetic heritage of Ashkenazi Jews comes from indigenous Europe

Thus, the majority of Ashkenazi genetic heritage derives not from diasporic movement northward from the biblical homeland or from Near Eastern friends, but from within the indigenous peoples of Western and Central Europe."

Genes Of Most Ashkenazi Jews Trace Back To Europe, Not Middle East

Bullshit! When, where, and how did these European Jews become Jews? Considering the only way you are considered Jewish for the last 3000 years is if your mother was one. Judaism originated in the Middle East and those who are Jewish today are descendants of those people. There is no other way! You can squirm and post all kinds of garbage studies that you want.

"Considering the only way you are considered Jewish for the last 3000 years is if your mother was one. "

Exactly, they aren't real Jews. That's the point. You can't squirm your way out of it.

Again, put up or shut up. Show us how Europeans converted to Judaism, without there being a migration. There is zero evidence of this. Judaism originated in the Middle East. There is definite irrefutable historical evidence of Europe becoming a Christian continent. Promoting conspiracy theories based on skewed bullshit research doesn't add up to anything.

 

[montelatici]

Europeans converted to Judaism, that's how. Nearly all, if not all Jews in Palestine converted to Christianity before the Muslim conquest. After all, only Christians could live in the Roman Province of Palestine after 380 AD, so Jews, Samaritans and Pagans converted to Christianity.

"Most Ashkenazi Jews are descendants of European women who converted to Judaism............"
read more: Study traces Ashkenazi roots to European women who probably converted to Judaism

Bullcrrap, there is absolutely no record whatsoever that today's European Jews are descendants of converts. Nothing, nein, nada, nyet, kaput, zip, zero. Only a mentally ill antisemitic moron would make such an absurd claim.

Not absurd at all, it is fact. From "Medical Daily".

"Genes Of Most Ashkenazi Jews Trace Back To Indigenous Europe, Not Middle East

Some 81 percent of genetic heritage of Ashkenazi Jews comes from indigenous Europe

Thus, the majority of Ashkenazi genetic heritage derives not from diasporic movement northward from the biblical homeland or from Near Eastern friends, but from within the indigenous peoples of Western and Central Europe."

Genes Of Most Ashkenazi Jews Trace Back To Europe, Not Middle East

Bullshit! When, where, and how did these European Jews become Jews? Considering the only way you are considered Jewish for the last 3000 years is if your mother was one. Judaism originated in the Middle East and those who are Jewish today are descendants of those people. There is no other way! You can squirm and post all kinds of garbage studies that you want.

"Considering the only way you are considered Jewish for the last 3000 years is if your mother was one. "

Exactly, they aren't real Jews. That's the point. You can't squirm your way out of it.

Again, put up or shut up. Show us how Europeans converted to Judaism, without there being a migration. There is zero evidence of this. Judaism originated in the Middle East. There is definite irrefutable historical evidence of Europe becoming a Christian continent. Promoting conspiracy theories based on skewed bullshit research doesn't add up to anything.

No conspiracy theory, just fact. I am getting tired of posting links from various scientific sources.

"Ashkenazi Jewish women descended mostly from Italian converts.......at least 80 percent of Ashkenazi maternal ancestry comes from women indigenous to Europe while 8 percent originated in the Near East, with the rest uncertain.

Ashkenazi Jewish women descended mostly from Italian converts, new study asserts | Genetic Literacy Project

 

[Roudy]

Bullcrrap, there is absolutely no record whatsoever that today's European Jews are descendants of converts. Nothing, nein, nada, nyet, kaput, zip, zero. Only a mentally ill antisemitic moron would make such an absurd claim.

Not absurd at all, it is fact. From "Medical Daily".

"Genes Of Most Ashkenazi Jews Trace Back To Indigenous Europe, Not Middle East

Some 81 percent of genetic heritage of Ashkenazi Jews comes from indigenous Europe

Thus, the majority of Ashkenazi genetic heritage derives not from diasporic movement northward from the biblical homeland or from Near Eastern friends, but from within the indigenous peoples of Western and Central Europe."

Genes Of Most Ashkenazi Jews Trace Back To Europe, Not Middle East

Bullshit! When, where, and how did these European Jews become Jews? Considering the only way you are considered Jewish for the last 3000 years is if your mother was one. Judaism originated in the Middle East and those who are Jewish today are descendants of those people. There is no other way! You can squirm and post all kinds of garbage studies that you want.

"Considering the only way you are considered Jewish for the last 3000 years is if your mother was one. "

Exactly, they aren't real Jews. That's the point. You can't squirm your way out of it.

Again, put up or shut up. Show us how Europeans converted to Judaism, without there being a migration. There is zero evidence of this. Judaism originated in the Middle East. There is definite irrefutable historical evidence of Europe becoming a Christian continent. Promoting conspiracy theories based on skewed bullshit research doesn't add up to anything.

No conspiracy theory, just fact. I am getting tired of posting links from various scientific sources.

"Ashkenazi Jewish women descended mostly from Italian converts.......at least 80 percent of Ashkenazi maternal ancestry comes from women indigenous to Europe while 8 percent originated in the Near East, with the rest uncertain.

Ashkenazi Jewish women descended mostly from Italian converts, new study asserts | Genetic Literacy Project

You posted this "new study asserts" before, moron. There is no historical evidence of this conversion. Why, when, and how did Europeans convert to Judaism? Put up or shut up. You have nothing but repetitive propaganda and conspiracy theories. You are posting the same shit in ten different threads spamming the forum, which is a violation of the rules. You just can't control yourself, can you? No matter how many times you get spanked you come back with the same shit, until you get spanked again.

 

[montelatici]

Not absurd at all, it is fact. From "Medical Daily".

"Genes Of Most Ashkenazi Jews Trace Back To Indigenous Europe, Not Middle East

Some 81 percent of genetic heritage of Ashkenazi Jews comes from indigenous Europe

Thus, the majority of Ashkenazi genetic heritage derives not from diasporic movement northward from the biblical homeland or from Near Eastern friends, but from within the indigenous peoples of Western and Central Europe."

Genes Of Most Ashkenazi Jews Trace Back To Europe, Not Middle East

Bullshit! When, where, and how did these European Jews become Jews? Considering the only way you are considered Jewish for the last 3000 years is if your mother was one. Judaism originated in the Middle East and those who are Jewish today are descendants of those people. There is no other way! You can squirm and post all kinds of garbage studies that you want.

"Considering the only way you are considered Jewish for the last 3000 years is if your mother was one. "

Exactly, they aren't real Jews. That's the point. You can't squirm your way out of it.

Again, put up or shut up. Show us how Europeans converted to Judaism, without there being a migration. There is zero evidence of this. Judaism originated in the Middle East. There is definite irrefutable historical evidence of Europe becoming a Christian continent. Promoting conspiracy theories based on skewed bullshit research doesn't add up to anything.

No conspiracy theory, just fact. I am getting tired of posting links from various scientific sources.

"Ashkenazi Jewish women descended mostly from Italian converts.......at least 80 percent of Ashkenazi maternal ancestry comes from women indigenous to Europe while 8 percent originated in the Near East, with the rest uncertain.

Ashkenazi Jewish women descended mostly from Italian converts, new study asserts | Genetic Literacy Project

You posted this "new study asserts" before, moron. There is no historical evidence of this conversion. Why, when, and how did Europeans convert to Judaism? Put up or shut up. You have nothing but repetitive propaganda and conspiracy theories. You are posting the same shit in ten different threads spamming the forum, which is a violation of the rules. You just can't control yourself, can you? No matter how many times you get spanked you come back with the same shit, until you get spanked again.

Just DNA evidence. Not that it matters when you believe the propaganda. You are always the loser Ruddy, I am just much smarter than you, and I am not a Jew, I am smart Christian, can you believe that? You always get "spanked" as you say. You just don't know it dummy.

 

[Roudy]

Bullshit! When, where, and how did these European Jews become Jews? Considering the only way you are considered Jewish for the last 3000 years is if your mother was one. Judaism originated in the Middle East and those who are Jewish today are descendants of those people. There is no other way! You can squirm and post all kinds of garbage studies that you want.

"Considering the only way you are considered Jewish for the last 3000 years is if your mother was one. "

Exactly, they aren't real Jews. That's the point. You can't squirm your way out of it.

Again, put up or shut up. Show us how Europeans converted to Judaism, without there being a migration. There is zero evidence of this. Judaism originated in the Middle East. There is definite irrefutable historical evidence of Europe becoming a Christian continent. Promoting conspiracy theories based on skewed bullshit research doesn't add up to anything.

No conspiracy theory, just fact. I am getting tired of posting links from various scientific sources.

"Ashkenazi Jewish women descended mostly from Italian converts.......at least 80 percent of Ashkenazi maternal ancestry comes from women indigenous to Europe while 8 percent originated in the Near East, with the rest uncertain.

Ashkenazi Jewish women descended mostly from Italian converts, new study asserts | Genetic Literacy Project

You posted this "new study asserts" before, moron. There is no historical evidence of this conversion. Why, when, and how did Europeans convert to Judaism? Put up or shut up. You have nothing but repetitive propaganda and conspiracy theories. You are posting the same shit in ten different threads spamming the forum, which is a violation of the rules. You just can't control yourself, can you? No matter how many times you get spanked you come back with the same shit, until you get spanked again.

Just DNA evidence. Not that it matters when you believe the propaganda. You are always the loser Ruddy, I am just much smarter than you, and I am not a Jew, I am smart Christian, can you believe that? You always get "spanked" as you say. You just don't know it dummy.

So in other words you are promoting yet another myth, as there is no evidence whatsoever of Europeans converting to Judaism. you might think you're smart but to most of the board you are a trolling bigot and a fool.

 

[montelatici]

"Considering the only way you are considered Jewish for the last 3000 years is if your mother was one. "

Exactly, they aren't real Jews. That's the point. You can't squirm your way out of it.

Again, put up or shut up. Show us how Europeans converted to Judaism, without there being a migration. There is zero evidence of this. Judaism originated in the Middle East. There is definite irrefutable historical evidence of Europe becoming a Christian continent. Promoting conspiracy theories based on skewed bullshit research doesn't add up to anything.

No conspiracy theory, just fact. I am getting tired of posting links from various scientific sources.

"Ashkenazi Jewish women descended mostly from Italian converts.......at least 80 percent of Ashkenazi maternal ancestry comes from women indigenous to Europe while 8 percent originated in the Near East, with the rest uncertain.

Ashkenazi Jewish women descended mostly from Italian converts, new study asserts | Genetic Literacy Project

You posted this "new study asserts" before, moron. There is no historical evidence of this conversion. Why, when, and how did Europeans convert to Judaism? Put up or shut up. You have nothing but repetitive propaganda and conspiracy theories. You are posting the same shit in ten different threads spamming the forum, which is a violation of the rules. You just can't control yourself, can you? No matter how many times you get spanked you come back with the same shit, until you get spanked again.

Just DNA evidence. Not that it matters when you believe the propaganda. You are always the loser Ruddy, I am just much smarter than you, and I am not a Jew, I am smart Christian, can you believe that? You always get "spanked" as you say. You just don't know it dummy.

So in other words you are promoting yet another myth, as there is no evidence whatsoever of Europeans converting to Judaism. you might think you're smart but to most of the board you are a trolling bigot and a fool.

Is DNA evidence a myth? To you maybe. Presenting fact is not trolling. Your parroting of propaganda is trolling. Oh, quit stalking me or I'll report you.

 

[Indeependent]

Again, put up or shut up. Show us how Europeans converted to Judaism, without there being a migration. There is zero evidence of this. Judaism originated in the Middle East. There is definite irrefutable historical evidence of Europe becoming a Christian continent. Promoting conspiracy theories based on skewed bullshit research doesn't add up to anything.

No conspiracy theory, just fact. I am getting tired of posting links from various scientific sources.

"Ashkenazi Jewish women descended mostly from Italian converts.......at least 80 percent of Ashkenazi maternal ancestry comes from women indigenous to Europe while 8 percent originated in the Near East, with the rest uncertain.

Ashkenazi Jewish women descended mostly from Italian converts, new study asserts | Genetic Literacy Project

You posted this "new study asserts" before, moron. There is no historical evidence of this conversion. Why, when, and how did Europeans convert to Judaism? Put up or shut up. You have nothing but repetitive propaganda and conspiracy theories. You are posting the same shit in ten different threads spamming the forum, which is a violation of the rules. You just can't control yourself, can you? No matter how many times you get spanked you come back with the same shit, until you get spanked again.

Just DNA evidence. Not that it matters when you believe the propaganda. You are always the loser Ruddy, I am just much smarter than you, and I am not a Jew, I am smart Christian, can you believe that? You always get "spanked" as you say. You just don't know it dummy.

So in other words you are promoting yet another myth, as there is no evidence whatsoever of Europeans converting to Judaism. you might think you're smart but to most of the board you are a trolling bigot and a fool.

Is DNA evidence a myth? To you maybe. Presenting fact is not trolling. Your parroting of propaganda is trolling. Oh, quit stalking me or I'll report you.

Review: Geneticist Harry Ostrer’s ‘Legacy’ Finds a Biological Basis for Jewishness

 

[montelatici]

No conspiracy theory, just fact. I am getting tired of posting links from various scientific sources.

"Ashkenazi Jewish women descended mostly from Italian converts.......at least 80 percent of Ashkenazi maternal ancestry comes from women indigenous to Europe while 8 percent originated in the Near East, with the rest uncertain.

Ashkenazi Jewish women descended mostly from Italian converts, new study asserts | Genetic Literacy Project

You posted this "new study asserts" before, moron. There is no historical evidence of this conversion. Why, when, and how did Europeans convert to Judaism? Put up or shut up. You have nothing but repetitive propaganda and conspiracy theories. You are posting the same shit in ten different threads spamming the forum, which is a violation of the rules. You just can't control yourself, can you? No matter how many times you get spanked you come back with the same shit, until you get spanked again.

Just DNA evidence. Not that it matters when you believe the propaganda. You are always the loser Ruddy, I am just much smarter than you, and I am not a Jew, I am smart Christian, can you believe that? You always get "spanked" as you say. You just don't know it dummy.

So in other words you are promoting yet another myth, as there is no evidence whatsoever of Europeans converting to Judaism. you might think you're smart but to most of the board you are a trolling bigot and a fool.

Is DNA evidence a myth? To you maybe. Presenting fact is not trolling. Your parroting of propaganda is trolling. Oh, quit stalking me or I'll report you.

Review: Geneticist Harry Ostrer’s ‘Legacy’ Finds a Biological Basis for Jewishness

It seems that Harry Oster, whose older study you linked to, has had a change of heart. From the newer study I previously linked:

"The majority of Ashkenazi Jews are descended from prehistoric European women.....

"Richards and colleagues’ story “seems reasonable,” said Harry Ostrer, a human geneticist at Albert Einstein College of Medicine of Yeshiva University in New York City who was not involved in the study. "

http://www.the-scientist.com/?artic...21/title/Genetic-Roots-of-the-Ashkenazi-Jews/

 

[Indeependent]

You posted this "new study asserts" before, moron. There is no historical evidence of this conversion. Why, when, and how did Europeans convert to Judaism? Put up or shut up. You have nothing but repetitive propaganda and conspiracy theories. You are posting the same shit in ten different threads spamming the forum, which is a violation of the rules. You just can't control yourself, can you? No matter how many times you get spanked you come back with the same shit, until you get spanked again.

Just DNA evidence. Not that it matters when you believe the propaganda. You are always the loser Ruddy, I am just much smarter than you, and I am not a Jew, I am smart Christian, can you believe that? You always get "spanked" as you say. You just don't know it dummy.

So in other words you are promoting yet another myth, as there is no evidence whatsoever of Europeans converting to Judaism. you might think you're smart but to most of the board you are a trolling bigot and a fool.

Is DNA evidence a myth? To you maybe. Presenting fact is not trolling. Your parroting of propaganda is trolling. Oh, quit stalking me or I'll report you.

Review: Geneticist Harry Ostrer’s ‘Legacy’ Finds a Biological Basis for Jewishness

It seems that Harry Oster, whose older study you linked to, has had a change of heart. From the newer study I previously linked:

"The majority of Ashkenazi Jews are descended from prehistoric European women.....

"Richards and colleagues’ story “seems reasonable,” said Harry Ostrer, a human geneticist at Albert Einstein College of Medicine of Yeshiva University in New York City who was not involved in the study. "

http://www.the-scientist.com/?artic...21/title/Genetic-Roots-of-the-Ashkenazi-Jews/

Your "article" didn't pop up in my Google search so you can suck it.

 

[Roudy]

Just DNA evidence. Not that it matters when you believe the propaganda. You are always the loser Ruddy, I am just much smarter than you, and I am not a Jew, I am smart Christian, can you believe that? You always get "spanked" as you say. You just don't know it dummy.

So in other words you are promoting yet another myth, as there is no evidence whatsoever of Europeans converting to Judaism. you might think you're smart but to most of the board you are a trolling bigot and a fool.

Is DNA evidence a myth? To you maybe. Presenting fact is not trolling. Your parroting of propaganda is trolling. Oh, quit stalking me or I'll report you.

Review: Geneticist Harry Ostrer’s ‘Legacy’ Finds a Biological Basis for Jewishness

It seems that Harry Oster, whose older study you linked to, has had a change of heart. From the newer study I previously linked:

"The majority of Ashkenazi Jews are descended from prehistoric European women.....

"Richards and colleagues’ story “seems reasonable,” said Harry Ostrer, a human geneticist at Albert Einstein College of Medicine of Yeshiva University in New York City who was not involved in the study. "

http://www.the-scientist.com/?artic...21/title/Genetic-Roots-of-the-Ashkenazi-Jews/

Your "article" didn't pop up in my Google search so you can suck it.

One thing is certain, he's consistently full of crap and propaganda. There is no doubt that today's Jews are descendants of those who lived in ME and Israel thousands of years ago. No matter how you look at it. All the research data conclusively points to this fact. Only an idiot would consider promoting his fantasy conspiracy of this non existing European "fake Jewry" LOL

Genetic studies on Jews

Genetic studies on Jews are part of the population genetics discipline and are used to better understand the chronology of migration provided by research in other fields, such as history, archaeology, linguistics, and paleontology. These studies investigate the origins of various Jewish populations today. In particular, they investigate whether there is a common genetic heritage among various Jewish populations. Studies of autosomal DNA, which look at the entire DNA mixture, show that Jewish populations have tended to form relatively closely related groups in independent communities, with most in a community sharing significant ancestry. For populations of the Jewish diaspora, the genetic composition of Ashkenazi, Sephardi, and Mizrahi Jewish populations show a significant amounts of shared Middle Eastern ancestry. According to Behar and colleagues (2010), this is "consistent with the historical formulation theories the Jewish people as descending from ancient Hebrew and Israelites of the Levant" and "the dispersion of the people of ancient Israel throughout the Old World".

DNA evidence
Studies of autosomal DNA, which look at the entire DNA mixture, have become increasingly important as the technology develops. They show that Jewish populations have tended to form relatively closely related groups in independent communities, with most in a community sharing significant ancestry in common.[22] For Jewish populations of the diaspora, the genetic composition of Ashkenazi, Sephardi, and Mizrahi Jewish populations show a predominant amount of shared Middle Eastern ancestry. According to Behar, the most parsimonious explanation for this shared Middle Eastern ancestry is that it is "consistent with the historical formulation of the Jewish people as descending from ancient Hebrew and Israelite residents of the Levant" and "the dispersion of the people of ancient Israel throughout the Old World".[23] North African, Italian and others of Iberian origin show variable frequencies of admixture with non-Jewish historical host populations among the maternal lines. In the case of Ashkenazi and Sephardi Jews (in particular Moroccan Jews), who are apparently closely related, the non-Jewish component is mainly southern European.[24] The studies show that the Bene Israel and Black Cochin Jews of India, Beta Israel of Ethiopia, and a portion of the Lemba people of southern Africa, while more closely resembling the local populations of their native countries, have some ancient Jewish descent.

Paternal lineage, Y chromosome
In 1992 G. Lucotte and F. David were the first genetic researchers to have documented a common paternal genetic heritage between Sephardi and Ashkenazi Jews.[28][29] In 1993, A. S. Santachiara Benerecetti, et al. suggested the Middle Eastern origin of Jewish paternal lineages.[30]

In 2000, M. Hammer, et al. conducted a study on 1371 men and definitively established that part of the paternal gene pool of Jewish communities in Europe, North Africa and Middle East came from a common Middle East ancestral population. They suggested that most Jewish communities in the Diaspora remained relatively isolated and endogamous compared to non-Jewish neighbor populations.[5][19][31]

Y-DNA of Ashkenazi Jews
A study of haplotypes of the Y chromosome by Harry Ostrer and Michael Hammer, published in 2000, addressed the paternal origins of Ashkenazi Jews. Hammer et al.[36] concluded that the Y chromosome of most Ashkenazi and Sephardi Jews contained mutations that are also common among Middle Eastern peoples, but uncommon in the general European population. This suggested that the male ancestors of the Ashkenazi Jews could be traced mostly to the Middle East.

Hammer et al. add that "Diaspora Jews from Europe, Northwest Africa, and the Near East resemble each other more closely than they resemble their non-Jewish neighbors." In addition, the authors have found that the "Jewish cluster was interspersed with the Palestinian and Syrian populations, whereas the other Middle Eastern non-Jewish populations (Saudi Arabians, Lebanese, and Druze) closely surrounded it.

Y-DNA of Roman Jews
Hammer et al.[5] maintained that the paternal lines of Jews from Rome were close to those of Ashkenazi Jews. They also claim that these mostly originated from the Middle East.

Y-DNA of Kurdish Jews
In the article by Nebel et al.[6] the authors show that Kurdish and Sephardi Jews have indistinguishable paternal genetic heritage. The study shows that mixtures between Kurdish Jews and their Muslim hosts are negligible and that Kurdish Jews are closer to other Jewish groups than to their long term host population. Hammer[5] had already shown the strong correlation between the genetic heritage of Jews from North Africa with Kurdish Jews. Kurdish Jews Judeo-Aramaic Central Semitic Kurdistan sample size 19/99 19.2% Kurdish Jews Judeo-Aramaic Central Semitic Kurdistan sample size 9/50 18% 10% T1a1a1a1a1a1-P77 and 8% T1a1-L162 Haplogroup T (Y-DNA)

Y-DNA of the Jews of Yemen
The studies of Shen[44] and Hammer et al.[5] show that the paternal genes of Yemenite Jews is similar to that of other Jewish populations. Y haplogroups (A3b2, E3b3a, E3b1, E3b1b, J1a, J2e, R1b10 and the lowest frequency found was Haplogroup T (Y-DNA) 2/94 2.1% in one sample.