Palestine NEVER EXISTED!

[Sixties Fan]

The whole 100% of the mandate for Palestine was to be given to the Jews as it was their ancient homeland. All of it.

So, who was going to give it to the Jews? The LoN did not own it. Britain didn't own it. The UN didn't own it. Nobody could give away what was not theirs.

Those who won WWI, following the Balfour Declaration and the League of Nations
(the body which preceded the UN) gave the Jewish Homeland back to the Jews.
The League of Nation was there exactly to decide issues like that, and it was decided in the San Remo Accords that the Jews would be given the Mandate for Palestine.

The Muslims did not "own" any of the land they moved into for 1300 years.
For the past 400 years (1517-1917) the Ottoman Turks conquered and kept the land until their defeat.

The Muslims/Arabs ended up with the rest of the Ottoman Empire. That would be 99% of all of the land they had power over from 1517 to 1917.

Arabs being indigenous of Arabia, and the indigenous people of Syria, Lebanon,
and Iraq still being around......
How much of any of that land was even suggested be separated for the use of the Kurds or any other minority which is indigenous to any of that region?
As it should have been?

Zero !!!!

The indigenous minorities had rights to their own National Sovereign States.
But the Allies did not think or care about them, any more than England ended up caring how much of the Mandate for Palestine the Jews (the indigenous people)
ended up with.

That is why England simply gave.....77% of the Mandate to Muslims who hated Jews in 1922. So that the Jews would not have it.

You are ducking my question.

THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS was the answer.

The San Remo Resolution is the one which gave the Jews the right to the Mandate for Palestine

San Remo Resolution

 

[teddyearp]

I don't think Monti's ignoring the fact, it's just that in relation to the population as a whole these were a tiny minority, if they existed at all, within Palestine.

If monti isn't ignoring the fact, why did he admit to it in another thread some time back? I certainly back off from some of the 'facts' I have previously posted when I find and admit that it is not concrete.

 

[Shusha]

Before that they saw themselves as part of Greater Syria...

Many still do:

 

[José]

Before that they saw themselves as part of Greater Syria...

Many still do:

Priceless!!!!

The pseudo Jew from Canada shot the video to delegitimize the palestinian national identity but ended up putting forth the most convincing rebuttal of the whole idea:

"If Palestinians, Jordanians and Syrians are one and the same why the hell are you much more likely to wage war against each other than unite in a single country?"

 

[Roudy]

Do you not know the difference between the British mandate of Palestine and the fake country of Palestine?


http://unispal.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0/07175DE9FA2DE563852568D3006E10F3


163. The Arabs of Palestine consider themselves as having a "natural" right to that country, although they have not been in possession of it as a sovereign nation.


166. The desire of the Arab people of Palestine to safeguard their national existence is a very natural desire. However, Palestinian nationalism, as distinct from Arab nationalism, is itself a relatively new phenomenon, which appeared only after the division of the "Arab rectangle" by the settlement of the First World War.


175. The Peel Commission, in referring to the matter, had noted in its report that "there was a time when Arab statesmen were willing to consider giving Palestine to the Jews, provided that the rest of Arab Asia was free. That condition was not fulfilled then, but it is on the eve of fulfilment now".

 

[P F Tinmore]

Do you not know the difference between the British mandate of Palestine and the fake country of Palestine?


http://unispal.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0/07175DE9FA2DE563852568D3006E10F3


163. The Arabs of Palestine consider themselves as having a "natural" right to that country, although they have not been in possession of it as a sovereign nation.


166. The desire of the Arab people of Palestine to safeguard their national existence is a very natural desire. However, Palestinian nationalism, as distinct from Arab nationalism, is itself a relatively new phenomenon, which appeared only after the division of the "Arab rectangle" by the settlement of the First World War.


175. The Peel Commission, in referring to the matter, had noted in its report that "there was a time when Arab statesmen were willing to consider giving Palestine to the Jews, provided that the rest of Arab Asia was free. That condition was not fulfilled then, but it is on the eve of fulfilment now".

Your link is dead.

 

[Roudy]

Do you not know the difference between the British mandate of Palestine and the fake country of Palestine?


http://unispal.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0/07175DE9FA2DE563852568D3006E10F3


163. The Arabs of Palestine consider themselves as having a "natural" right to that country, although they have not been in possession of it as a sovereign nation.


166. The desire of the Arab people of Palestine to safeguard their national existence is a very natural desire. However, Palestinian nationalism, as distinct from Arab nationalism, is itself a relatively new phenomenon, which appeared only after the division of the "Arab rectangle" by the settlement of the First World War.


175. The Peel Commission, in referring to the matter, had noted in its report that "there was a time when Arab statesmen were willing to consider giving Palestine to the Jews, provided that the rest of Arab Asia was free. That condition was not fulfilled then, but it is on the eve of fulfilment now".

Your link is dead.

https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unispal.nsf/0/07175DE9FA2DE563852568D3006E10F3

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Before that they saw themselves as part of Greater Syria...

Many still do:

Priceless!!!!

The pseudo Jew from Canada shot the video to delegitimize the palestinian national identity but ended up putting forth the most convincing rebuttal of the whole idea:

"If Palestinians, Jordanians and Syrians are one and the same why the hell are you much more likely to wage war against each other than unite in a single country?"

Except for 1970, I've never seen the Palestinians, Jordanians and Syrians wage war against each other. Besides there has been the American Civil War, the Spanish Civil War, etc. In ancient times the Greek city-states fought against each other, Antony of Rome fought against Octavian, Israel fought against Judah, etc.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Before that they saw themselves as part of Greater Syria...

Many still do:

Priceless!!!!

The pseudo Jew from Canada shot the video to delegitimize the palestinian national identity but ended up putting forth the most convincing rebuttal of the whole idea:

"If Palestinians, Jordanians and Syrians are one and the same why the hell are you much more likely to wage war against each other than unite in a single country?"

Except for 1970, I've never seen the Palestinians, Jordanians and Syrians wage war against each other. Besides there has been the American Civil War, the Spanish Civil War, etc. In ancient times the Greek city-states fought against each other, Antony of Rome fought against Octavian, Israel fought against Judah, etc.

Indeed, there has been little trouble between Palestine and its neighbors. What little there has been was centered around Israel. Black September would not have happened without Israel.

If not for Israel there would be no PLO. There would be no Fatah. There would be no PFLP. There would be no Hamas. There would be no Islamic Jihad. There would be no refugees. There would be no UNWRA.

The many billions spent to support or counter these entities would better be spent to support our people at home.

Israel - the gift that keeps on giving.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Before that they saw themselves as part of Greater Syria...

Many still do:

Priceless!!!!

The pseudo Jew from Canada shot the video to delegitimize the palestinian national identity but ended up putting forth the most convincing rebuttal of the whole idea:

"If Palestinians, Jordanians and Syrians are one and the same why the hell are you much more likely to wage war against each other than unite in a single country?"

Except for 1970, I've never seen the Palestinians, Jordanians and Syrians wage war against each other. Besides there has been the American Civil War, the Spanish Civil War, etc. In ancient times the Greek city-states fought against each other, Antony of Rome fought against Octavian, Israel fought against Judah, etc.

Besides, it was the British and French who carved out Syria, Lebanon, Palestine and Jordan (artificial countries) out of the Arab landmass. Many Arab officials have admitted themselves that there are no differences between them.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Before that they saw themselves as part of Greater Syria...

Many still do:

Priceless!!!!

The pseudo Jew from Canada shot the video to delegitimize the palestinian national identity but ended up putting forth the most convincing rebuttal of the whole idea:

"If Palestinians, Jordanians and Syrians are one and the same why the hell are you much more likely to wage war against each other than unite in a single country?"

Except for 1970, I've never seen the Palestinians, Jordanians and Syrians wage war against each other. Besides there has been the American Civil War, the Spanish Civil War, etc. In ancient times the Greek city-states fought against each other, Antony of Rome fought against Octavian, Israel fought against Judah, etc.

Indeed, there has been little trouble between Palestine and its neighbors. What little there has been was centered around Israel. Black September would not have happened without Israel.

If not for Israel there would be no PLO. There would be no Fatah. There would be no PFLP. There would be no Hamas. There would be no Islamic Jihad. There would be no refugees. There would be no UNWRA.

The many billions spent to support or counter these entities would better be spent to support our people at home.

Israel - the gift that keeps on giving.

And there would be no al-Queida, ISIS, Taliban, Boko Haram, al-Nusra, etc. Only there still would be those groups and more. Muslims/Arabs will use any excuse to develop violent, extremist groups.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Before that they saw themselves as part of Greater Syria...

Many still do:

Priceless!!!!

The pseudo Jew from Canada shot the video to delegitimize the palestinian national identity but ended up putting forth the most convincing rebuttal of the whole idea:

"If Palestinians, Jordanians and Syrians are one and the same why the hell are you much more likely to wage war against each other than unite in a single country?"

Except for 1970, I've never seen the Palestinians, Jordanians and Syrians wage war against each other. Besides there has been the American Civil War, the Spanish Civil War, etc. In ancient times the Greek city-states fought against each other, Antony of Rome fought against Octavian, Israel fought against Judah, etc.

Indeed, there has been little trouble between Palestine and its neighbors. What little there has been was centered around Israel. Black September would not have happened without Israel.

If not for Israel there would be no PLO. There would be no Fatah. There would be no PFLP. There would be no Hamas. There would be no Islamic Jihad. There would be no refugees. There would be no UNWRA.

The many billions spent to support or counter these entities would better be spent to support our people at home.

Israel - the gift that keeps on giving.

And there would be no al-Queida, ISIS, Taliban, Boko Haram, al-Nusra, etc. Only there still would be those groups and more. Muslims/Arabs will use any excuse to develop violent, extremist groups.

Extremist groups find little traction without a cause to rally around.

 

[montelatici]

The whole 100% of the mandate for Palestine was to be given to the Jews as it was their ancient homeland. All of it.

So, who was going to give it to the Jews? The LoN did not own it. Britain didn't own it. The UN didn't own it. Nobody could give away what was not theirs.

Those who won WWI, following the Balfour Declaration and the League of Nations
(the body which preceded the UN) gave the Jewish Homeland back to the Jews.
The League of Nation was there exactly to decide issues like that, and it was decided in the San Remo Accords that the Jews would be given the Mandate for Palestine.

The Muslims did not "own" any of the land they moved into for 1300 years.
For the past 400 years (1517-1917) the Ottoman Turks conquered and kept the land until their defeat.

The Muslims/Arabs ended up with the rest of the Ottoman Empire. That would be 99% of all of the land they had power over from 1517 to 1917.

Arabs being indigenous of Arabia, and the indigenous people of Syria, Lebanon,
and Iraq still being around......
How much of any of that land was even suggested be separated for the use of the Kurds or any other minority which is indigenous to any of that region?
As it should have been?

Zero !!!!

The indigenous minorities had rights to their own National Sovereign States.
But the Allies did not think or care about them, any more than England ended up caring how much of the Mandate for Palestine the Jews (the indigenous people)
ended up with.

That is why England simply gave.....77% of the Mandate to Muslims who hated Jews in 1922. So that the Jews would not have it.

Arabians are indigenous to Arabia. Arabs are people that have adopted Arabic as a language and are indigenous to various locales. The Jews that colonized Palestine were descendants of European converts to Judaism, not at all indigenous to Palestine or the Middle East. Furthermore, it is questionable if there were any people practicing Judaism in Palestine pre-1850 that were indigenous to Palestine at all. If there were, they were an isolated case and very few in number. Most of the "handful of Jews" in Palestine pre-1850 were actually from Spain who arrived after 1492 when the Christians reconquered Spain and expelled anyone that practiced Islam or Judaism and refused to convert to Christianity. Most, if not all the Jews in Palestine had converted to Christianity centuries before the Muslim conquest of Palestine. This is just historical fact.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Before that they saw themselves as part of Greater Syria...

Many still do:

Priceless!!!!

The pseudo Jew from Canada shot the video to delegitimize the palestinian national identity but ended up putting forth the most convincing rebuttal of the whole idea:

"If Palestinians, Jordanians and Syrians are one and the same why the hell are you much more likely to wage war against each other than unite in a single country?"

Except for 1970, I've never seen the Palestinians, Jordanians and Syrians wage war against each other. Besides there has been the American Civil War, the Spanish Civil War, etc. In ancient times the Greek city-states fought against each other, Antony of Rome fought against Octavian, Israel fought against Judah, etc.

Indeed, there has been little trouble between Palestine and its neighbors. What little there has been was centered around Israel. Black September would not have happened without Israel.

If not for Israel there would be no PLO. There would be no Fatah. There would be no PFLP. There would be no Hamas. There would be no Islamic Jihad. There would be no refugees. There would be no UNWRA.

The many billions spent to support or counter these entities would better be spent to support our people at home.

Israel - the gift that keeps on giving.

The gift that keeps on giving comes from the Anti Jews Arab leader Al-Husseini who started the war against the Jews reclaiming any part of their ancient homeland for their State.

Thank him for hundreds of deaths, and city destructions and expulsions of Jews from the places they were living in from North to South, East to West of what was going to become Israel, even before TransJordan was given illegally to the Arab Hashemite clan.

If not for him there would not have been the war of 1948, Arafat creating the PLO in 1964 - three years before the Arabs embarked on another attempt to destroy Israel.
No Fatah, no PFLP, no Hamas, no international terrorism.
No Arab who are forced to be refugees until Israel is destroyed by a crooked system like UNWRA.

You do not want the US to give the Arabs money for nothing, write your Congress and support them in their effort to put an end to giving the PA Millions of Dollars which end up going to inciting the Arabs into attacking and murdering Jews, and their families being paid a "salary" if anyone is killed or put in prison.


Jew Hatred - the gift that keeps on giving (to the Palestinians leaders who smile everyday that they lives are made so easy)

 

[Sixties Fan]

The whole 100% of the mandate for Palestine was to be given to the Jews as it was their ancient homeland. All of it.

So, who was going to give it to the Jews? The LoN did not own it. Britain didn't own it. The UN didn't own it. Nobody could give away what was not theirs.

Those who won WWI, following the Balfour Declaration and the League of Nations
(the body which preceded the UN) gave the Jewish Homeland back to the Jews.
The League of Nation was there exactly to decide issues like that, and it was decided in the San Remo Accords that the Jews would be given the Mandate for Palestine.

The Muslims did not "own" any of the land they moved into for 1300 years.
For the past 400 years (1517-1917) the Ottoman Turks conquered and kept the land until their defeat.

The Muslims/Arabs ended up with the rest of the Ottoman Empire. That would be 99% of all of the land they had power over from 1517 to 1917.

Arabs being indigenous of Arabia, and the indigenous people of Syria, Lebanon,
and Iraq still being around......
How much of any of that land was even suggested be separated for the use of the Kurds or any other minority which is indigenous to any of that region?
As it should have been?

Zero !!!!

The indigenous minorities had rights to their own National Sovereign States.
But the Allies did not think or care about them, any more than England ended up caring how much of the Mandate for Palestine the Jews (the indigenous people)
ended up with.

That is why England simply gave.....77% of the Mandate to Muslims who hated Jews in 1922. So that the Jews would not have it.

Arabians are indigenous to Arabia. Arabs are people that have adopted Arabic as a language and are indigenous to various locales. The Jews that colonized Palestine were descendants of European converts to Judaism, not at all indigenous to Palestine or the Middle East. Furthermore, it is questionable if there were any people practicing Judaism in Palestine pre-1850 that were indigenous to Palestine at all. If there were, they were an isolated case and very few in number. Most of the "handful of Jews" in Palestine pre-1850 were actually from Spain who arrived after 1492 when the Christians reconquered Spain and expelled anyone that practiced Islam or Judaism and refused to convert to Christianity. Most, if not all the Jews in Palestine had converted to Christianity centuries before the Muslim conquest of Palestine. This is just historical fact.

Hummmmmm

Historical facts .....without historical facts.


Hummmmmmm

 

[Sixties Fan]

Many still do:

Priceless!!!!

The pseudo Jew from Canada shot the video to delegitimize the palestinian national identity but ended up putting forth the most convincing rebuttal of the whole idea:

"If Palestinians, Jordanians and Syrians are one and the same why the hell are you much more likely to wage war against each other than unite in a single country?"

Except for 1970, I've never seen the Palestinians, Jordanians and Syrians wage war against each other. Besides there has been the American Civil War, the Spanish Civil War, etc. In ancient times the Greek city-states fought against each other, Antony of Rome fought against Octavian, Israel fought against Judah, etc.

Indeed, there has been little trouble between Palestine and its neighbors. What little there has been was centered around Israel. Black September would not have happened without Israel.

If not for Israel there would be no PLO. There would be no Fatah. There would be no PFLP. There would be no Hamas. There would be no Islamic Jihad. There would be no refugees. There would be no UNWRA.

The many billions spent to support or counter these entities would better be spent to support our people at home.

Israel - the gift that keeps on giving.

And there would be no al-Queida, ISIS, Taliban, Boko Haram, al-Nusra, etc. Only there still would be those groups and more. Muslims/Arabs will use any excuse to develop violent, extremist groups.

Extremist groups find little traction without a cause to rally around.

The cause for the Arabs is Islam.
The cause for Islam is keeping every bit of land they ever conquered to remain in Muslim possession (therefore no reaction to Ottoman occupation, nor Hashemite takeover of TransJordan).
The cause is to not allow Jews ( who are considered inferior in Islam) to ever be sovereign over any land, especially their own, if it was conquered by Muslims)

That is the cause.

 

[José]

Originally posted by Sixties fan
The cause for Islam is keeping every bit of land they ever conquered to remain in Muslim possession (therefore no reaction to Ottoman occupation, nor Hashemite takeover of TransJordan).

Of course the arabs of Palestine and those of other regions grudgingly accepted Ottoman rule.

They were not flooded by hundreds of thousands of unwanted Turks, buying their lands and expelling the peasants, talking openly about the turkification of the arab land, about turning them into a minority in their own land.

And noooo, Siiiirrrrr!!!!

There was no reaction to the Hashemite attempt to supress their armed struggle to liberate their homeland....

They just set the whole country on fire in 1970.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Originally posted by Sixties fan
The cause for Islam is keeping every bit of land they ever conquered to remain in Muslim possession (therefore no reaction to Ottoman occupation, nor Hashemite takeover of TransJordan).

Of course the arabs of Palestine and those of other regions grudgingly accepted Ottoman rule.

They were not flooded by hundreds of thousands of unwanted Turks, buying their lands and expelling the peasants, talking openly about the turkification of the arab land, about turning them into a minority in their own land.

And noooo, Siiiirrrrr!!!!

There was no reaction to the Hashemite attempt to supress their armed struggle to liberate their homeland....

They just set the whole country on fire in 1970.

Big deal!! Arabs only have over 99% of the Middle East, with oil to boot! And besides, Jews were also expelled by Arabs--from Hebron,Tiberias, Sefad and the Jewish quarter of Jerusalem.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Originally posted by Sixties fan
The cause for Islam is keeping every bit of land they ever conquered to remain in Muslim possession (therefore no reaction to Ottoman occupation, nor Hashemite takeover of TransJordan).

Of course the arabs of Palestine and those of other regions grudgingly accepted Ottoman rule.

They were not flooded by hundreds of thousands of unwanted Turks, buying their lands and expelling the peasants, talking openly about the turkification of the arab land, about turning them into a minority in their own land.

And noooo, Siiiirrrrr!!!!

There was no reaction to the Hashemite attempt to supress their armed struggle to liberate their homeland....

They just set the whole country on fire in 1970.

Neither the Egyptians, Assyrians, Greeks, Romans or Byzantine Turks flooded the Land of Israel with people.
The land remained Israelite, Judea and then Jewish land.

It was never an Arab homeland, anymore than it was all the others, including the Ottoman Turks.

The indigenous people, the Jews, were always there one invader after another.
It was, and is, their ancient homeland, not he ancient homeland to any of those invaders.

The ancient homeland to all descendants of Germans, British, Spaniards, Dutch, French and all others who either invaded or immigrated to the Americas, Australia, New Zealand, etc, are still the countries where their ancestors came from.

Being born in a place for 500 years does not replace the indigenous people who were there before them.

Palestinians are part of the Arab Nation because they are Arabs.. From Arabia.
Had any invaders taken over Arabia and flooded the Peninsula with their people, the Arabs would still be the indigenous people of the Peninsula, no matter how many others called it their homeland.

 

[José]

Originally posted by ForeverYoung436
Big deal!! Arabs only have over 99% of the Middle East, with oil to boot! And besides, Jews were also expelled by Arabs--from Hebron,Tiberias, Sefad and the Jewish quarter of Jerusalem.

As far as the displacement of the pre-zionist jewish population of the West Bank and the jewish population of surrounding countries that was an unfortunate development brought about by the creation of the jewish racial dictatorship, FY.