Overwhelming Majority Of Studies Find That Gun Control Policies Don’t Work

[Hutch Starskey]

Retarded thread.

Of course you ignore the most obvious data.

America has the most guns and the most gun deaths. Period.

When gun nuts are otherwise occupied, gun injuries drop significantly.

Firearm-related injuries drop during NRA conventions

How much do you want to bet that most gun accidents, murders and suicides are not committed by NRA members?

Read my link, dope.

It's meaningless as is much of what you post.

No meaningful statistics to be applied over a population of over 300 million can be garnered from a couple day's worth of data

And FYI I would still win that bet

Loser.

 

[OKTexas]

/——/ Why yes indeed tinkerbell. Maybe if the police and FBI started doing their job those kids would still be alive.

Do what? Florida law still gives this kid an AR.

/——-/,The police were called to his house 39 times. The FBI was warned twice and the school suspended him. He made threats on social media yet no one did their job to stop him from buying a gun. Not the NRAs fault.

And what would show up on his Fed gun background check ?

In Massachusetts he would’ve had to get a license thru the local police . He would’ve been denied because the LOCAL police know he’s a psycho because they’ve been to his house so many times.

Florida has no such law . Don’t even need a license.

Your ignorance is showing, the kid pointed a gun at his mothers head and wasn't arrested and prosecuted. If he had been he wouldn't have been able to purchase a gun. The system failed on multiple levels, deal with it.



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the kid pointed a gun at his mothers head and wasn't arrested and prosecuted.

Liar.

Post it up.

“He put the gun on the head of his brother before, so not the first time, and he did that to his mother… It’s not the first time he’s put a gun on someone’s head," she said.

‘Not the first time he’s put a gun on someone’s head’: Chilling Nikolas Cruz 911 call

I'll be awaiting your sincerest apologies.


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[Timmy]

Less mass shootings is good, don't you think?

/——/ Why yes indeed tinkerbell. Maybe if the police and FBI started doing their job those kids would still be alive.

Do what? Florida law still gives this kid an AR.

/——-/,The police were called to his house 39 times. The FBI was warned twice and the school suspended him. He made threats on social media yet no one did their job to stop him from buying a gun. Not the NRAs fault.

And what would show up on his Fed gun background check ?

In Massachusetts he would’ve had to get a license thru the local police . He would’ve been denied because the LOCAL police know he’s a psycho because they’ve been to his house so many times.

Florida has no such law . Don’t even need a license.

Your ignorance is showing, the kid pointed a gun at his mothers head and wasn't arrested and prosecuted. If he had been he wouldn't have been able to purchase a gun. The system failed on multiple levels, deal with it.



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So he already had a gun ?

 

[Timmy]

THe op is a lie . States wgbtough gun control do better than gun nut states in any gun stat you can think of .

No they don't

If they did then CA would have a lower murder and crime rate than NH and that is not the case

Why don’t you pick comparable states . Matching Cali wh a rural state wh no large metro area ? Try being intellectually honest .

Compare California wh Florida .

Baltimore and Houston...

Baltimore has extreme gun control, everything you nutters want, and h

Houston.....gun stores on every corner, they can carry guns openly and concealed, and they are on the border with a Narco drug state.

Baltimore has more gun murder than Houston without even close to the same population....

Baltimore even has a higher murder rate than New York.....

Murder rate 2017
Baltimore......343
Population of cities 2016:


Houston........2.3 million
Baltimore......620,961



Murder rate 2016:



Houston .......301
Baltimore......318

Why aren’t you comparing Houston wh New York ? You take the outliers all the time .

Better yet, just list the top gun homicide states (or whatever gun crime stat). Since states control the laws .

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Do what? Florida law still gives this kid an AR.

/——-/,The police were called to his house 39 times. The FBI was warned twice and the school suspended him. He made threats on social media yet no one did their job to stop him from buying a gun. Not the NRAs fault.

And what would show up on his Fed gun background check ?

In Massachusetts he would’ve had to get a license thru the local police . He would’ve been denied because the LOCAL police know he’s a psycho because they’ve been to his house so many times.

Florida has no such law . Don’t even need a license.

Your ignorance is showing, the kid pointed a gun at his mothers head and wasn't arrested and prosecuted. If he had been he wouldn't have been able to purchase a gun. The system failed on multiple levels, deal with it.



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the kid pointed a gun at his mothers head and wasn't arrested and prosecuted.

Liar.

Post it up.

“He put the gun on the head of his brother before, so not the first time, and he did that to his mother… It’s not the first time he’s put a gun on someone’s head," she said.

‘Not the first time he’s put a gun on someone’s head’: Chilling Nikolas Cruz 911 call

I'll be awaiting your sincerest apologies.


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The same woman you're quoting opted to not press charges, dope.

You lied.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Retarded thread.

Of course you ignore the most obvious data.

America has the most guns and the most gun deaths. Period.

When gun nuts are otherwise occupied, gun injuries drop significantly.

Firearm-related injuries drop during NRA conventions

How much do you want to bet that most gun accidents, murders and suicides are not committed by NRA members?

Read my link, dope.

It's meaningless as is much of what you post.

No meaningful statistics to be applied over a population of over 300 million can be garnered from a couple day's worth of data

And FYI I would still win that bet

Loser.

OOOH once again I am cut to the quick, skewered by your rapier like wit.


FYI a rapier is a type of sword

 

[Cecilie1200]

There ya go folks, the people snowflakes trust are saying gun control won't work:

Studies: Gun Control Has Little Effect | The Daily Caller​

An analysis of thousands of gun control studies claims that just 63 of those studies found connections between more stringent gun control laws violent crime and suicide reductions.

The non-profit RAND corporation spent two years and $1 million on the analysis, searching for evidence of benefit from gun control policies. RAND’s analysis looked to establish connections between gun policies and rates of homicide, suicide, self-defense gun use, hunting, and other categories. The vast majority of those categories went unaffected by legislation, however, according to NPR.

“Most of the effects that we were looking for evidence on, we didn’t find any evidence,” Andrew Morral, who lead the analysis.​

The United States has 270 million guns and had 90 mass shooters from 1966 to 2012.

No other country has more than 46 million guns or 18 mass shooters.

/——-/ I don’t give a rats ass what other countries have or don’t have. Why do you?

Less mass shootings is good, don't you think?

/——/ Why yes indeed tinkerbell. Maybe if the police and FBI started doing their job those kids would still be alive.

Do what? Florida law still gives this kid an AR.

No, Florida law would have denied the shooter a legally-purchased firearm, had the FBI and police done their jobs properly. I cited you the relevant Florida statute, which I notice you very carefully never acknowledged after your ludicrous claims that Florida hardly has any "gun laws".

 

[Cecilie1200]

The United States has 270 million guns and had 90 mass shooters from 1966 to 2012.

No other country has more than 46 million guns or 18 mass shooters.

/——-/ I don’t give a rats ass what other countries have or don’t have. Why do you?

Less mass shootings is good, don't you think?

/——/ Why yes indeed tinkerbell. Maybe if the police and FBI started doing their job those kids would still be alive.

Do what? Florida law still gives this kid an AR.

/——-/,The police were called to his house 39 times. The FBI was warned twice and the school suspended him. He made threats on social media yet no one did their job to stop him from buying a gun. Not the NRAs fault.

Despite the left's blame-game song and dance and deflective screeching, the NRA does not support and has never supported people like the shooter legally owning guns. The left, however, has vociferously and frequently supported the "right" of people like the shooter wandering the streets, being a danger to others.

 

[Skull Pilot]

THe op is a lie . States wgbtough gun control do better than gun nut states in any gun stat you can think of .

No they don't

If they did then CA would have a lower murder and crime rate than NH and that is not the case

Why don’t you pick comparable states . Matching Cali wh a rural state wh no large metro area ? Try being intellectually honest .

Compare California wh Florida .

Baltimore and Houston...

Baltimore has extreme gun control, everything you nutters want, and h

Houston.....gun stores on every corner, they can carry guns openly and concealed, and they are on the border with a Narco drug state.

Baltimore has more gun murder than Houston without even close to the same population....

Baltimore even has a higher murder rate than New York.....

Murder rate 2017
Baltimore......343
Population of cities 2016:


Houston........2.3 million
Baltimore......620,961



Murder rate 2016:



Houston .......301
Baltimore......318

Why aren’t you comparing Houston wh New York ? You take the outliers all the time .

Better yet, just list the top gun homicide states (or whatever gun crime stat). Since states control the laws .

I don't have to

NH has a much lower murder rate than CA and much laxer gun laws

It is your assertion that more gun laws equal lower murder rates is it not?

You have no problem comparing the UK to the US despite their population disparity comparing the rates between states with population differences is just as valid because I am using murders per capita

So yes CA will have more murders BUT they also have more murders per capita don't they?

So you are more likely to be murdered in CA than NH or in any other state with a lower murder rate aren't you?

 

[Weatherman2020]

There ya go folks, the people snowflakes trust are saying gun control won't work:

Studies: Gun Control Has Little Effect | The Daily Caller​

An analysis of thousands of gun control studies claims that just 63 of those studies found connections between more stringent gun control laws violent crime and suicide reductions.

The non-profit RAND corporation spent two years and $1 million on the analysis, searching for evidence of benefit from gun control policies. RAND’s analysis looked to establish connections between gun policies and rates of homicide, suicide, self-defense gun use, hunting, and other categories. The vast majority of those categories went unaffected by legislation, however, according to NPR.

“Most of the effects that we were looking for evidence on, we didn’t find any evidence,” Andrew Morral, who lead the analysis.​

Since when has the Left ever cared about effectiveness? It’s about doing SOMETHING so they FEEL GOOD.

 

[OKTexas]

/——/ Why yes indeed tinkerbell. Maybe if the police and FBI started doing their job those kids would still be alive.

Do what? Florida law still gives this kid an AR.

/——-/,The police were called to his house 39 times. The FBI was warned twice and the school suspended him. He made threats on social media yet no one did their job to stop him from buying a gun. Not the NRAs fault.

And what would show up on his Fed gun background check ?

In Massachusetts he would’ve had to get a license thru the local police . He would’ve been denied because the LOCAL police know he’s a psycho because they’ve been to his house so many times.

Florida has no such law . Don’t even need a license.

Your ignorance is showing, the kid pointed a gun at his mothers head and wasn't arrested and prosecuted. If he had been he wouldn't have been able to purchase a gun. The system failed on multiple levels, deal with it.



.

So he already had a gun ?

And he violated the law with it, why wasn't he arrested?


.

 

[Cecilie1200]

/——-/ I don’t give a rats ass what other countries have or don’t have. Why do you?

Less mass shootings is good, don't you think?

/——/ Why yes indeed tinkerbell. Maybe if the police and FBI started doing their job those kids would still be alive.

Do what? Florida law still gives this kid an AR.

/——-/,The police were called to his house 39 times. The FBI was warned twice and the school suspended him. He made threats on social media yet no one did their job to stop him from buying a gun. Not the NRAs fault.

And what would show up on his Fed gun background check ?

In Massachusetts he would’ve had to get a license thru the local police . He would’ve been denied because the LOCAL police know he’s a psycho because they’ve been to his house so many times.

Florida has no such law . Don’t even need a license.

Precisely WHAT do you think was going to happen if Florida required a license that didn't ALREADY happen under their existing laws? What is this grand, new addition to public safety that you think a gun license is going to convey that would have stopped that little lunatic from killing 17 people?

By all means, share with us your "superior wisdom".

 

[Cecilie1200]

/——-/ I don’t give a rats ass what other countries have or don’t have. Why do you?

Less mass shootings is good, don't you think?

/——/ Why yes indeed tinkerbell. Maybe if the police and FBI started doing their job those kids would still be alive.

Do what? Florida law still gives this kid an AR.

/——-/,The police were called to his house 39 times. The FBI was warned twice and the school suspended him. He made threats on social media yet no one did their job to stop him from buying a gun. Not the NRAs fault.

And what would show up on his Fed gun background check ?

In Massachusetts he would’ve had to get a license thru the local police . He would’ve been denied because the LOCAL police know he’s a psycho because they’ve been to his house so many times.

Florida has no such law . Don’t even need a license.

That is a bald-faced lie. I SHOWED you Florida's laws denying the right to buy or own guns if you are mentally unstable. Posted them right here in this thread. How DARE you sit there and continue to claim the law doesn't exist and pretend the fault doesn't lie with law enforcement not putting it into effect? You puling, dishonest sack of monkey vomit!

 

[Cecilie1200]

Do what? Florida law still gives this kid an AR.

/——-/,The police were called to his house 39 times. The FBI was warned twice and the school suspended him. He made threats on social media yet no one did their job to stop him from buying a gun. Not the NRAs fault.

And what would show up on his Fed gun background check ?

In Massachusetts he would’ve had to get a license thru the local police . He would’ve been denied because the LOCAL police know he’s a psycho because they’ve been to his house so many times.

Florida has no such law . Don’t even need a license.

Your ignorance is showing, the kid pointed a gun at his mothers head and wasn't arrested and prosecuted. If he had been he wouldn't have been able to purchase a gun. The system failed on multiple levels, deal with it.



.

So he already had a gun ?

And he violated the law with it, why wasn't he arrested?


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They could have legally grabbed any guns he had at that time, AND denied him access to any others, and far from objecting, the NRA and gun-rights supporters would have agreed wholeheartedly.

 

[OnePercenter]

Overwhelming Majority Of Studies Find That Gun Control Policies Don’t Work

Funny. It worked just fine on automatic weapons - and in other countries.

You're not going to ban semiautomatic weapons. That just isn't in the cards. Every gun owner in the country will scream bloody murder. If there's one class of weapons the 2nd Amendment was meant to protect, it's semiautomatic weapons.

Your country, Canada, does a great job of regulating.

 

[whitehall]

Most of us don't even know what "gun control" laws are in effect. Lefties seem to think there are no restrictions on gun ownership and people on the right seem content to use a freaking cliche without thinking about it. In the mean time nobody discusses the hatred and insanity going on since Trump was elected and the failure of federal agencies from the FBI to the Dept of education.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Retarded thread.

Of course you ignore the most obvious data.

America has the most guns and the most gun deaths. Period.

When gun nuts are otherwise occupied, gun injuries drop significantly.

Firearm-related injuries drop during NRA conventions

How much do you want to bet that most gun accidents, murders and suicides are not committed by NRA members?

Read my link, dope.

It's meaningless as is much of what you post.

No meaningful statistics to be applied over a population of over 300 million can be garnered from a couple day's worth of data

And FYI I would still win that bet

Loser.

OOOH once again I am cut to the quick, skewered by your rapier like wit.


FYI a rapier is a type of sword

Great. You still posted nonsense that my link spoke directly to without reading the link.

That makes you a loser.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Do what? Florida law still gives this kid an AR.

/——-/,The police were called to his house 39 times. The FBI was warned twice and the school suspended him. He made threats on social media yet no one did their job to stop him from buying a gun. Not the NRAs fault.

And what would show up on his Fed gun background check ?

In Massachusetts he would’ve had to get a license thru the local police . He would’ve been denied because the LOCAL police know he’s a psycho because they’ve been to his house so many times.

Florida has no such law . Don’t even need a license.

Your ignorance is showing, the kid pointed a gun at his mothers head and wasn't arrested and prosecuted. If he had been he wouldn't have been able to purchase a gun. The system failed on multiple levels, deal with it.



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So he already had a gun ?

And he violated the law with it, why wasn't he arrested?


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And he violated the law with it, why wasn't he arrested?

Because the woman you quoted and her son did not press charges, liar.

School shooter reportedly describes emotional struggle in 911 call - CNN

The Palm Beach County sheriff's deputy who responded spoke to Cruz and Rock Deschamps, who "hugged and reconcile(d) their differences."

Cruz "said he was sorry for losing his temper," the deputy wrote in his report.

Rock Deschamps told the deputy that Cruz had been suffering significantly from the loss of his mother and that he didn't want him to go to jail, only to leave the house until he calmed down. Rock Deschamps signed a form saying he refused to press charges.

 

[OKTexas]

/——-/,The police were called to his house 39 times. The FBI was warned twice and the school suspended him. He made threats on social media yet no one did their job to stop him from buying a gun. Not the NRAs fault.

And what would show up on his Fed gun background check ?

In Massachusetts he would’ve had to get a license thru the local police . He would’ve been denied because the LOCAL police know he’s a psycho because they’ve been to his house so many times.

Florida has no such law . Don’t even need a license.

Your ignorance is showing, the kid pointed a gun at his mothers head and wasn't arrested and prosecuted. If he had been he wouldn't have been able to purchase a gun. The system failed on multiple levels, deal with it.



.

So he already had a gun ?

And he violated the law with it, why wasn't he arrested?


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And he violated the law with it, why wasn't he arrested?

Because the woman you quoted and her son did not press charges, liar.

School shooter reportedly describes emotional struggle in 911 call - CNN

The Palm Beach County sheriff's deputy who responded spoke to Cruz and Rock Deschamps, who "hugged and reconcile(d) their differences."

Cruz "said he was sorry for losing his temper," the deputy wrote in his report.

Rock Deschamps told the deputy that Cruz had been suffering significantly from the loss of his mother and that he didn't want him to go to jail, only to leave the house until he calmed down. Rock Deschamps signed a form saying he refused to press charges.

You might want to check the FL laws on domestic violence, the victim doesn't need to press charges, the State takes care of that.


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[Hutch Starskey]

And what would show up on his Fed gun background check ?

In Massachusetts he would’ve had to get a license thru the local police . He would’ve been denied because the LOCAL police know he’s a psycho because they’ve been to his house so many times.

Florida has no such law . Don’t even need a license.

Your ignorance is showing, the kid pointed a gun at his mothers head and wasn't arrested and prosecuted. If he had been he wouldn't have been able to purchase a gun. The system failed on multiple levels, deal with it.



.

So he already had a gun ?

And he violated the law with it, why wasn't he arrested?


.

And he violated the law with it, why wasn't he arrested?

Because the woman you quoted and her son did not press charges, liar.

School shooter reportedly describes emotional struggle in 911 call - CNN

The Palm Beach County sheriff's deputy who responded spoke to Cruz and Rock Deschamps, who "hugged and reconcile(d) their differences."

Cruz "said he was sorry for losing his temper," the deputy wrote in his report.

Rock Deschamps told the deputy that Cruz had been suffering significantly from the loss of his mother and that he didn't want him to go to jail, only to leave the house until he calmed down. Rock Deschamps signed a form saying he refused to press charges.

You might want to check the FL laws on domestic violence, the victim doesn't need to press charges, the State takes care of that.


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You might want to quit while you're behind.