Overwhelming Majority Of Studies Find That Gun Control Policies Don’t Work

[OKTexas]

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There ya go folks, the people snowflakes trust are saying gun control won't work:

Studies: Gun Control Has Little Effect | The Daily Caller​

An analysis of thousands of gun control studies claims that just 63 of those studies found connections between more stringent gun control laws violent crime and suicide reductions.

The non-profit RAND corporation spent two years and $1 million on the analysis, searching for evidence of benefit from gun control policies. RAND’s analysis looked to establish connections between gun policies and rates of homicide, suicide, self-defense gun use, hunting, and other categories. The vast majority of those categories went unaffected by legislation, however, according to NPR.

“Most of the effects that we were looking for evidence on, we didn’t find any evidence,” Andrew Morral, who lead the analysis.​

I agreed most gun control laws don't work and why don't they work? The influence of lobbying groups such as the gun lobby, pressure from local gun owners and dealers, and concern for the 2nd amendment causes lawmakers to create huge loopholes in the laws such as the gun shows and private sales exceptions, along with tons of specific exclusions. Secondly, states and local government don't spend money needed to make sure the laws are enforced. They leave enforcement to local police who simply don't have the manpower nor the needed infrastructure to see that the laws are enforced. Gun control certainly does work, just not in this country.

For years, the strategy of the gun lobby is to let government pass gun control but make sure it's ineffective so organizations like the Rand Cooperation can produce studies such as this one.

Still spewing that gun show loophole lie I see. There is an exception for private sales, all FFL sales have to go through NICS regardless of where it occurs.


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So how bout them Cowboys.

Who gives a fuck?


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[Clementine]

 

[Clementine]

Overwhelming Majority Of Studies Find That Gun Control Policies Don’t Work

Funny. It worked just fine on automatic weapons - and in other countries.

It's clear you're too stupid to understand the difference between a ban and restricted access. But criminals can buy full autos without all the fuss out of the trunk of a car. Put your damn propaganda aside and look at reality.


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I wonder how many of the weapons that Obama sold to criminals during the Fast and Furious fiasco are back in this country. There is no real border and many of those weapons are probably here along with the scumbag drug and human traffickers. And no one is filling out any paperwork or getting background checks for those.

Suppose all the guns were magically removed from society. Liberals think this would solve the violence problem. What would happen is that we would start seeing schools get bombed or set on fire. We would see more people getting plowed with vehicles. Murders would still happen and possibly even on a greater scale. More people would get poisoned, pushed off high places, strangled or stabbed.

Of course, guns will never be gone. The elite Hollywood people, politicians and other wealthy people would still have armed guards 24/7. Even if the left was able to trash the constitution and Bill of Rights, criminals would have weapons far longer than the rest of society and we would be totally at their mercy.

Liberals, if you, your child or someone you cared deeply about was about to be targeted by a gunman at a school, would you rather someone in the school was armed or are you really okay with the gun free zone signs being enough to protect them? Saying banning guns is the answer won't work. Criminals will not surrender theirs. And they are going to kill more innocent people. Would you want a gun to protect yourself against a criminal coming after you? Or are you okay being a sitting duck, whether at home or public place?

Liberals apparently want us to resign ourselves to the fact that if a crazed gunman enters our home, workplace or school, then it's just our time to die. Defending ourselves with a weapon is frowned upon. Dying is so much more noble and they can blame the NRA instead of the moral rot in our society.

We grew up with guns. I had an air rifle when I was 12. The vast majority never dreamed of hurting people with any weapon.

It's the shredding of the moral fiber of society, fatherless families, and parents who don't teach their children to respect others that leads to the disrespect and hatred we see. Add to the bad parenting some meds for ADHD or depression, throw in some bullying, and you have a recipe for a future lunatic who will snap. There is a whole other issue in inner cities. Anti-social attitudes that are passed down to children by gang members. The gang mentality is prevalent in so many cities. Drive-by shootings in inner cities have taken more lives than mass shootings yet there is no outrage from the left about the black on black crime. And the drive-by shootings happened for the most stupid reasons imaginable. Someone flirted with another guy's girlfriend or other stupid gripe. Things that used to be handled with an argument or, at the worst, a fist fight, now end with dead innocent people. Children have been killed because the drive-by shooters just fire into the homes of their enemies and don't give a damn who gets hit. .

The mentality of people is at the root of the problem but the left has no desire to acknowledge, let alone tackle, the root cause of the violence today. The left encouraged violence with their support of radical groups that have destroyed cities and continue hateful and divisive rhetoric.

Banning guns would do nothing. Changing attitudes would make a huge difference but it needs to start with the attitude of leftist politicians. It won't happen because the reason they want to disarm the people isn't because they want people to be safe. If that were the case, they wouldn't have deliberately imported so many terrorists. It's about making wannabe dictators safe from the people they want to rule over.

 

[Cellblock2429]

There ya go folks, the people snowflakes trust are saying gun control won't work:

Studies: Gun Control Has Little Effect | The Daily Caller​

An analysis of thousands of gun control studies claims that just 63 of those studies found connections between more stringent gun control laws violent crime and suicide reductions.

The non-profit RAND corporation spent two years and $1 million on the analysis, searching for evidence of benefit from gun control policies. RAND’s analysis looked to establish connections between gun policies and rates of homicide, suicide, self-defense gun use, hunting, and other categories. The vast majority of those categories went unaffected by legislation, however, according to NPR.

“Most of the effects that we were looking for evidence on, we didn’t find any evidence,” Andrew Morral, who lead the analysis.​

The United States has 270 million guns and had 90 mass shooters from 1966 to 2012.

No other country has more than 46 million guns or 18 mass shooters.

/——-/ I don’t give a rats ass what other countries have or don’t have. Why do you?

Less mass shootings is good, don't you think?

/——/ Why yes indeed tinkerbell. Maybe if the police and FBI started doing their job those kids would still be alive.

 

[Timmy]

There ya go folks, the people snowflakes trust are saying gun control won't work:

Studies: Gun Control Has Little Effect | The Daily Caller​

An analysis of thousands of gun control studies claims that just 63 of those studies found connections between more stringent gun control laws violent crime and suicide reductions.

The non-profit RAND corporation spent two years and $1 million on the analysis, searching for evidence of benefit from gun control policies. RAND’s analysis looked to establish connections between gun policies and rates of homicide, suicide, self-defense gun use, hunting, and other categories. The vast majority of those categories went unaffected by legislation, however, according to NPR.

“Most of the effects that we were looking for evidence on, we didn’t find any evidence,” Andrew Morral, who lead the analysis.​

The United States has 270 million guns and had 90 mass shooters from 1966 to 2012.

No other country has more than 46 million guns or 18 mass shooters.

/——-/ I don’t give a rats ass what other countries have or don’t have. Why do you?

Less mass shootings is good, don't you think?

/——/ Why yes indeed tinkerbell. Maybe if the police and FBI started doing their job those kids would still be alive.

Do what? Florida law still gives this kid an AR.

 

[Cellblock2429]

There ya go folks, the people snowflakes trust are saying gun control won't work:

Studies: Gun Control Has Little Effect | The Daily Caller​

An analysis of thousands of gun control studies claims that just 63 of those studies found connections between more stringent gun control laws violent crime and suicide reductions.

The non-profit RAND corporation spent two years and $1 million on the analysis, searching for evidence of benefit from gun control policies. RAND’s analysis looked to establish connections between gun policies and rates of homicide, suicide, self-defense gun use, hunting, and other categories. The vast majority of those categories went unaffected by legislation, however, according to NPR.

“Most of the effects that we were looking for evidence on, we didn’t find any evidence,” Andrew Morral, who lead the analysis.​

The United States has 270 million guns and had 90 mass shooters from 1966 to 2012.

No other country has more than 46 million guns or 18 mass shooters.

/——-/ I don’t give a rats ass what other countries have or don’t have. Why do you?

Less mass shootings is good, don't you think?

/——/ Why yes indeed tinkerbell. Maybe if the police and FBI started doing their job those kids would still be alive.

Do what? Florida law still gives this kid an AR.

/——-/,The police were called to his house 39 times. The FBI was warned twice and the school suspended him. He made threats on social media yet no one did their job to stop him from buying a gun. Not the NRAs fault.

 

[Timmy]

The United States has 270 million guns and had 90 mass shooters from 1966 to 2012.

No other country has more than 46 million guns or 18 mass shooters.

/——-/ I don’t give a rats ass what other countries have or don’t have. Why do you?

Less mass shootings is good, don't you think?

/——/ Why yes indeed tinkerbell. Maybe if the police and FBI started doing their job those kids would still be alive.

Do what? Florida law still gives this kid an AR.

/——-/,The police were called to his house 39 times. The FBI was warned twice and the school suspended him. He made threats on social media yet no one did their job to stop him from buying a gun. Not the NRAs fault.

And what would show up on his Fed gun background check ?

In Massachusetts he would’ve had to get a license thru the local police . He would’ve been denied because the LOCAL police know he’s a psycho because they’ve been to his house so many times.

Florida has no such law . Don’t even need a license.

 

[Skull Pilot]

There ya go folks, the people snowflakes trust are saying gun control won't work:

Studies: Gun Control Has Little Effect | The Daily Caller​

An analysis of thousands of gun control studies claims that just 63 of those studies found connections between more stringent gun control laws violent crime and suicide reductions.

The non-profit RAND corporation spent two years and $1 million on the analysis, searching for evidence of benefit from gun control policies. RAND’s analysis looked to establish connections between gun policies and rates of homicide, suicide, self-defense gun use, hunting, and other categories. The vast majority of those categories went unaffected by legislation, however, according to NPR.

“Most of the effects that we were looking for evidence on, we didn’t find any evidence,” Andrew Morral, who lead the analysis.​

The United States has 270 million guns and had 90 mass shooters from 1966 to 2012.

No other country has more than 46 million guns or 18 mass shooters.

So what?

 

[Skull Pilot]

THe op is a lie . States wgbtough gun control do better than gun nut states in any gun stat you can think of .

No they don't

If they did then CA would have a lower murder and crime rate than NH and that is not the case

 

[Skull Pilot]

/——-/ I don’t give a rats ass what other countries have or don’t have. Why do you?

Less mass shootings is good, don't you think?

/——/ Why yes indeed tinkerbell. Maybe if the police and FBI started doing their job those kids would still be alive.

Do what? Florida law still gives this kid an AR.

/——-/,The police were called to his house 39 times. The FBI was warned twice and the school suspended him. He made threats on social media yet no one did their job to stop him from buying a gun. Not the NRAs fault.

And what would show up on his Fed gun background check ?

In Massachusetts he would’ve had to get a license thru the local police . He would’ve been denied because the LOCAL police know he’s a psycho because they’ve been to his house so many times.

Florida has no such law . Don’t even need a license.

Once again no unelected law enforcement official has any say regarding the lawful exercise of any right.

 

[Skull Pilot]

THe op is a lie . States wgbtough gun control do better than gun nut states in any gun stat you can think of .

So that must make Chicago the safest city in America... what happened?

Chicago isn’t a state .

So gun control doesn’t work at a city wide level and since you can’t argue that point you want a state listed. Fine, Illinois then. Chicago has more than enough crime for the entire state, several states actually.

Chicago is an outlier because of its gang problem .

There are plenty of other cities in liberal gun control states . But noooo . You won’t see gun nuts bringing up thier gun stats vs stats in gun nut state cities .

Our entire murder rate is skewed by outliers.

5% of all the counties in the US account for almost 70% of all murders and those counties tend to be urban gang strogholds

 

[Skull Pilot]

There ya go folks, the people snowflakes trust are saying gun control won't work:

Studies: Gun Control Has Little Effect | The Daily Caller​

An analysis of thousands of gun control studies claims that just 63 of those studies found connections between more stringent gun control laws violent crime and suicide reductions.

The non-profit RAND corporation spent two years and $1 million on the analysis, searching for evidence of benefit from gun control policies. RAND’s analysis looked to establish connections between gun policies and rates of homicide, suicide, self-defense gun use, hunting, and other categories. The vast majority of those categories went unaffected by legislation, however, according to NPR.

“Most of the effects that we were looking for evidence on, we didn’t find any evidence,” Andrew Morral, who lead the analysis.​

take this idea of raising the age to 21 to buy an ar

how many of the past shooters would that have stopped

None they would have just bought another semiautomatic or a few shotguns instead

 

[jon_berzerk]

There ya go folks, the people snowflakes trust are saying gun control won't work:

Studies: Gun Control Has Little Effect | The Daily Caller​

An analysis of thousands of gun control studies claims that just 63 of those studies found connections between more stringent gun control laws violent crime and suicide reductions.

The non-profit RAND corporation spent two years and $1 million on the analysis, searching for evidence of benefit from gun control policies. RAND’s analysis looked to establish connections between gun policies and rates of homicide, suicide, self-defense gun use, hunting, and other categories. The vast majority of those categories went unaffected by legislation, however, according to NPR.

“Most of the effects that we were looking for evidence on, we didn’t find any evidence,” Andrew Morral, who lead the analysis.​

take this idea of raising the age to 21 to buy an ar

how many of the past shooters would that have stopped

None they would have just bought another semiautomatic or a few shotguns instead

except for one

all are over the age of 21

the one exception

he killed his mom and took hers

 

[Skull Pilot]

You know if Bripat writes something... it’s sure to be a lie.

How Australia All But Ended Gun Violence

they had little or no gun violence to start with and the claim that it is all because of the gun ban is dubious at best

 

[Skull Pilot]

11 teens a day die in cell phone related accidents. 28 people a day die from alcohol related accidents.

So, we need to ban cell phones, alcohol, and vehicles.

We need to ban cell phones and alcohol IN vehicles.

Don't we already have DUI and texting while driving, cell phone use while driving laws?

As a side note:
When the smoke clears, the real problem for the middle class is lack of adequate pay.....
Isn't that what make you poor or middle class and not rich? Not enough pay?

We do, but unfortunately our DUI and cell phone laws aren't strong enough.

My ideas:

First DUI, life without parole.

Cell phone use including hands free; first offence $5000.00 fine and loss of your licence AND car for 30 days. You Second offence, loss of your driver's license and car permanently.

If you ever bothered to read past the 2nd amendment you might come across that whole “cruel and unusual punishment “ thing .

Not to mention we have a constitution right to alcohol! If I use gun nut logic “it’s my constitutional right to drive drunk !!”

We do not have a constitutional right to alcohol

 

[Skull Pilot]

Overwhelming Majority Of Studies Find That Gun Control Policies Don’t Work

Except in all the developed countries where they do work in reducing firearm homicide rates and public massacre rates to a fraction of the US'. But apart from that they're exactly right.

But they did not reduce murders in those countries.

In fact in the UK the murder rate went UP after they passed all their gun control laws

 

[Timmy]

THe op is a lie . States wgbtough gun control do better than gun nut states in any gun stat you can think of .

No they don't

If they did then CA would have a lower murder and crime rate than NH and that is not the case

Why don’t you pick comparable states . Matching Cali wh a rural state wh no large metro area ? Try being intellectually honest .

Compare California wh Florida .

 

[Timmy]

Less mass shootings is good, don't you think?

/——/ Why yes indeed tinkerbell. Maybe if the police and FBI started doing their job those kids would still be alive.

Do what? Florida law still gives this kid an AR.

/——-/,The police were called to his house 39 times. The FBI was warned twice and the school suspended him. He made threats on social media yet no one did their job to stop him from buying a gun. Not the NRAs fault.

And what would show up on his Fed gun background check ?

In Massachusetts he would’ve had to get a license thru the local police . He would’ve been denied because the LOCAL police know he’s a psycho because they’ve been to his house so many times.

Florida has no such law . Don’t even need a license.

Once again no unelected law enforcement official has any say regarding the lawful exercise of any right.

But the FBI is at fault ? Blaming the Feds for what the locals refuse to do ?

Hey, it’s Florida’s right to do that . But then you end up with crazy gun crimes .

 

[Skull Pilot]

THe op is a lie . States wgbtough gun control do better than gun nut states in any gun stat you can think of .

No they don't

If they did then CA would have a lower murder and crime rate than NH and that is not the case

Why don’t you pick comparable states . Matching Cali wh a rural state wh no large metro area ? Try being intellectually honest .

Compare California wh Florida .

Do you not understand that RATES are usually expressed in units per 100,000 residents?

That makes population differences irrelevant,

CA has a higher murder and crime rate per capita than does NH even though NH is much more lax on gun laws

 

[Skull Pilot]

/——/ Why yes indeed tinkerbell. Maybe if the police and FBI started doing their job those kids would still be alive.

Do what? Florida law still gives this kid an AR.

/——-/,The police were called to his house 39 times. The FBI was warned twice and the school suspended him. He made threats on social media yet no one did their job to stop him from buying a gun. Not the NRAs fault.

And what would show up on his Fed gun background check ?

In Massachusetts he would’ve had to get a license thru the local police . He would’ve been denied because the LOCAL police know he’s a psycho because they’ve been to his house so many times.

Florida has no such law . Don’t even need a license.

Once again no unelected law enforcement official has any say regarding the lawful exercise of any right.

But the FBI is at fault ? Blaming the Feds for what the locals refuse to do ?

Hey, it’s Florida’s right to do that . But then you end up with crazy gun crimes .

I never said anyone was at fault.

In fact there was no legal reason stop Cruz from buying a firearm that I know of.

The fact is no unelected state law enforcement employee has any authority to prevent anyone from lawfully exercising any of their Constitutionally protected rights