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To what prior post are you referring? If it was not the post just preceding yours, it might have been helpful to have quoted it rather than having quoted MINE - which only discussed events in the real world - in its entirety.
Thousands of experiments have been done and, using laboratory-sized test samples, their results HAVE been immediate. I plan to never waste my time telling you about any more of them. Look them up yourself.
To what prior post are you referring? If it was not the post just preceding yours, it might have been helpful to have quoted it rather than having quoted MINE - which only discussed events in the real world - in its entirety.
Thousands of experiments have been done and, using laboratory-sized test samples, their results HAVE been immediate. I plan to never waste my time telling you about any more of them. Look them up yourself.
Thousands??? How come you can't post one (1).
You never posted a single experiment that tests for a 100-120PPM change in CO2
Show me one repeatable lab experiment at 100-400PPM of CO2 that raises temperature and lowers ocean pH and I'll say your stupid theory is accurate
SSDD's ignorance extends to every science topic on which he's ever made comment.
The amount of a gas that will dissolve in a specific given liquid is determined by the gas's partial pressure. Gases in a mixture like our atmosphere will exist in solution in an exposed liquid in amounts proportional to their portion of the atmospheric mixture. As their atmospheric levels change, so will their amount in solution in the exposed liquid.
The gas solubility of a liquid is inversely proportional to its absolute temperature. As its temperature goes up, a liquid's ability to hold gases in solution goes down.
These two effects are independent: the absolute amount of any specific gas found in solution will be the result of the algebraic sum of these two effects. As has been noted, the current trend of these two effects are in opposition. The increasing temperatures will reduce the amount of all gases the oceans holds in solution but the increasing amounts of CO2 in the atmosphere will put more of it into solution.
In the last century, the average temperature of the Earth's oceans have increased by about 0.1C from approximately 265K to 265.1K. That would be a temperature increase of 0.03%. In an earlier post in another thread, I erroneously stated the change was 0.3%. Mea culpa.
In the last century, the partial pressure of CO2 has increased from 0.0284 kP to 0.0405 kP, an increase of 42.75%. This effect is direct - no proportionality factor. That increase in partial pressure will produce that increase in dissolved gases.
Three guesses as to which one wins. And the first two don't count.
So we're letting you experiment with an INSTANTANEOUS increase of this devastating molecule, and you still don't have a single lab experiment backing up your insane theory
Are you Gullible?
To what prior post are you referring? If it was not the post just preceding yours, it might have been helpful to have quoted it rather than having quoted MINE - which only discussed events in the real world - in its entirety.
Thousands of experiments have been done and, using laboratory-sized test samples, their results HAVE been immediate. I plan to never waste my time telling you about any more of them. Look them up yourself.
Thousands??? How come you can't post one (1).
You never posted a single experiment that tests for a 100-120PPM change in CO2
Show me one repeatable lab experiment at 100-400PPM of CO2 that raises temperature and lowers ocean pH and I'll say your stupid theory is accurate
Was there something about "Look them up yourself" that you didn't understand?
To what prior post are you referring? If it was not the post just preceding yours, it might have been helpful to have quoted it rather than having quoted MINE - which only discussed events in the real world - in its entirety.
Thousands of experiments have been done and, using laboratory-sized test samples, their results HAVE been immediate. I plan to never waste my time telling you about any more of them. Look them up yourself.
Thousands??? How come you can't post one (1).
You never posted a single experiment that tests for a 100-120PPM change in CO2
Show me one repeatable lab experiment at 100-400PPM of CO2 that raises temperature and lowers ocean pH and I'll say your stupid theory is accurate
Was there something about "Look them up yourself" that you didn't understand?
Thousands??? How come you can't post one (1).
You never posted a single experiment that tests for a 100-120PPM change in CO2
Show me one repeatable lab experiment at 100-400PPM of CO2 that raises temperature and lowers ocean pH and I'll say your stupid theory is accurate
Was there something about "Look them up yourself" that you didn't understand?
We never found any.
You posted the Mythbusters one, and that was a 7.3% CO2 atmosphere and they only got a less than 1 degree increase
From the Mythbuster's soundtrack beginning at 1:23.
"To make sure it all runs to plan, the guys have called in Manij Gupta (SP?), a gas monitoring expert from Los Gatos Research. The Earth' CO2 levels stand at around 350 parts per million and methane, a tiny 1800 parts per billion. But amounts that small are no problem for this gear. [Gupta] "The methane is in the part per billion level. The CO2 in the parts per million level". So now, they can up the greenhouse gas levels in minutely accurate increments. And once the gases are in, everyone can chill out and... uh... watch ice melt."
And, while looking to see if anyone had ever convinced the show's producers to provide a little more detail, I came across the following:
JSTOR: An Error Occurred Setting Your User Cookie
Optics InfoBase: Journal of the Optical Society of America - Rotation-Vibration Spectra of Diatomic and Simple Polyatomic Molecules with Long Absorbing Paths
http://www-ramanathan.ucsd.edu/RamAmbio.pdf
Optics InfoBase: Applied Optics - Total Absorptance of Carbon Dioxide in the Infrared
Storming Media's time has ended.
Papers on laboratory measurements of CO2 absorption properties « AGW Observer
Increases in greenhouse forcing inferred from the outgoing longwave radiation spectra of the Earth in 1970 and 1997 : Abstract : Nature
http://spiedl.aip.org/getabs/servle...0001000164000001&idtype=cvips&gifs=yes&ref=no
Kirchhoff's law of thermal radiation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://www.sundogpublishing.com/AtmosRad/index.html
Taylor Dome - Carbon Dioxide Data, 0-11 KYrBP
Historical CO2 Records from the Law Dome DE08, DE08-2, and DSS Ice Cores
Global, Regional, and National Fossil-Fuel CO2 Emissions
http://www.bgc.mpg.de/service/iso_gas_lab/publications/PG_WB_IJMS.pdf
http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/Report/AR4WG1_Pub_Ch02.pdf
http://www.eumetsat.int/Home/Main/P...nts/document/pdf_conf_p50_s9_01_harries_v.pdf
Global atmospheric downward longwave radiation over land surface under all-sky conditions from 1973 to 2008 - Wang - 2009 - Journal of Geophysical Research: Atmospheres (1984?2012) - Wiley Online Library
http://landshape.org/enm/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/philipona2004-radiation.pdf
http://ams.confex.com/ams/Annual2006/techprogram/paper_100737.htm
Scientific Evidence - Increasing Temperatures & Greenhouse Gases
Woods Hole Research Center ? Climate Change Primer
The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect
The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect
http://www.iac.ethz.ch/people/knuttir/papers/knutti08natgeo.pdf
MIT Joint Program on the Science and Policy of Global Change
On the determination of climate feedbacks from ERBE data - Lindzen - 2009 - Geophysical Research Letters - Wiley Online Library
http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/bibliography/related_files/jmgregory0201.pdf
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A2.lrg.gif
http://www.jamstec.go.jp/frsgc/research/d5/jdannan/probrevised.pdf
Relationships between tropical sea surface temperature and top-of-atmosphere radiation - Trenberth - 2010 - Geophysical Research Letters - Wiley Online Library
http://www.amath.washington.edu/research/articles/Tung/journals/solar-jgr.pdf
Carbon dioxide forcing alone insufficient to explain Palaeocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum warming : Abstract : Nature Geoscience
Effect of climate sensitivity on the response to volcanic forcing - Wigley - 2005 - Journal of Geophysical Research: Atmospheres (1984?2012) - Wiley Online Library
http://homepages.see.leeds.ac.uk/~earpmf/papers/ForsterandGregory2006.pdf
Constraining climate sensitivity with linear fits to outgoing radiation - Murphy - 2010 - Geophysical Research Letters - Wiley Online Library
http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2008/2008_Hansen_etal.pdf
Revisiting the determination of climate sensitivity from relationships between surface temperature and radiative fluxes - Chung - 2010 - Geophysical Research Letters - Wiley Online Library
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/wg1/ar4-wg1-chapter2.pdf
http://www.pik-potsdam.de/~stefan/Publications/Book_chapters/Rahmstorf_Zedillo_2008.pdf
IPCC - Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
Human "fingerprints" showing humans caused the current global
temperature anomaly:
Climate Scientist Benjamin Santer | Union of Concerned Scientists
NASA - Just 5 Questions: Fingerprinting the Climate
10 Indicators of a Human Fingerprint on Climate Change
http://www.ucsusa.org/assets/documents/global_warming/humanfingerprintshighres.pdf
Climate?s Strong Fingerprint In Global Cholera Outbreaks by Sonia Shah: Yale Environment 360
'Fingerprinting' method reveals fate of mercury in Arctic snow -- ScienceDaily
"Attribution of the present-day total greenhouse effect"
http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2010/2010_Schmidt_etal_1.pdf
"Infrared radiation and planetary temperature"
http://ptonline.aip.org/journals/doc/PHTOAD-ft/vol_64/iss_1/33_1.shtml
http://geosci.uchicago.edu/~rtp1/papers/PhysTodayRT2011.pdf
I realize I just said "Go find them yourself", but since I came across these serendipitously...
To what prior post are you referring? If it was not the post just preceding yours, it might have been helpful to have quoted it rather than having quoted MINE - which only discussed events in the real world - in its entirety.
Thousands of experiments have been done and, using laboratory-sized test samples, their results HAVE been immediate. I plan to never waste my time telling you about any more of them. Look them up yourself.
Thousands??? How come you can't post one (1).
You never posted a single experiment that tests for a 100-120PPM change in CO2
Show me one repeatable lab experiment at 100-400PPM of CO2 that raises temperature and lowers ocean pH and I'll say your stupid theory is accurate
To what prior post are you referring? If it was not the post just preceding yours, it might have been helpful to have quoted it rather than having quoted MINE - which only discussed events in the real world - in its entirety.
Thousands of experiments have been done and, using laboratory-sized test samples, their results HAVE been immediate. I plan to never waste my time telling you about any more of them. Look them up yourself.
Thousands??? How come you can't post one (1).
You never posted a single experiment that tests for a 100-120PPM change in CO2
Show me one repeatable lab experiment at 100-400PPM of CO2 that raises temperature and lowers ocean pH and I'll say your stupid theory is accurate
Was there something about "Look them up yourself" that you didn't understand?
Thousands??? How come you can't post one (1).
You never posted a single experiment that tests for a 100-120PPM change in CO2
Show me one repeatable lab experiment at 100-400PPM of CO2 that raises temperature and lowers ocean pH and I'll say your stupid theory is accurate
Was there something about "Look them up yourself" that you didn't understand?
We never found any.
You posted the Mythbusters one, and that was a 7.3% CO2 atmosphere and they only got a less than 1 degree increase
What's the point? Despite the fact that every scientist on Earth as well as every person with a reasonable science education accepts the greenhouse effect as a fact, you won't because it's the linchpin to AGW and for no other reason. That much is obvious. If it's simply, you'll complain it's too simple. If it's complex, you'll complain of too many variables. You'll complain that it's too fast, you'll complain that it's too slow, you'll complain that it's too hot, you'll complain that it's not hot enough.
Maybe they had one tank at 350ppm but 14 seconds later they show the equipment registering 7.3%. Again, I contacted the lab tech and never got an answer.From the Mythbuster's soundtrack beginning at 1:23.
"To make sure it all runs to plan, the guys have called in Manij Gupta (SP?), a gas monitoring expert from Los Gatos Research. The Earth' CO2 levels stand at around 350 parts per million and methane, a tiny 1800 parts per billion. But amounts that small are no problem for this gear. [Gupta] "The methane is in the part per billion level. The CO2 in the parts per million level". So now, they can up the greenhouse gas levels in minutely accurate increments. And once the gases are in, everyone can chill out and... uh... watch ice melt."
And, while looking to see if anyone had ever convinced the show's producers to provide a little more detail, I came across the following:
http://www.jstor.org/pss/108724?cookieSet=1
Optics InfoBase: Journal of the Optical Society of America - Rotation-Vibration Spectra of Diatomic and Simple Polyatomic Molecules with Long Absorbing Paths
http://www-ramanathan.ucsd.edu/RamAmbio.pdf
Optics InfoBase: Applied Optics - Total Absorptance of Carbon Dioxide in the Infrared
Storming Media's time has ended.
Papers on laboratory measurements of CO2 absorption properties « AGW Observer
Increases in greenhouse forcing inferred from the outgoing longwave radiation spectra of the Earth in 1970 and 1997 : Abstract : Nature
http://spiedl.aip.org/getabs/servle...0001000164000001&idtype=cvips&gifs=yes&ref=no
Kirchhoff's law of thermal radiation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://www.sundogpublishing.com/AtmosRad/index.html
Taylor Dome - Carbon Dioxide Data, 0-11 KYrBP
Historical CO2 Records from the Law Dome DE08, DE08-2, and DSS Ice Cores
Global, Regional, and National Fossil-Fuel CO2 Emissions
http://www.bgc.mpg.de/service/iso_gas_lab/publications/PG_WB_IJMS.pdf
http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/Report/AR4WG1_Pub_Ch02.pdf
http://www.eumetsat.int/Home/Main/P...nts/document/pdf_conf_p50_s9_01_harries_v.pdf
Global atmospheric downward longwave radiation over land surface under all-sky conditions from 1973 to 2008 - Wang - 2009 - Journal of Geophysical Research: Atmospheres (1984?2012) - Wiley Online Library
http://landshape.org/enm/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/philipona2004-radiation.pdf
http://ams.confex.com/ams/Annual2006/techprogram/paper_100737.htm
Scientific Evidence - Increasing Temperatures & Greenhouse Gases
Woods Hole Research Center ? Climate Change Primer
The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect
The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect
http://www.iac.ethz.ch/people/knuttir/papers/knutti08natgeo.pdf
MIT Joint Program on the Science and Policy of Global Change
On the determination of climate feedbacks from ERBE data - Lindzen - 2009 - Geophysical Research Letters - Wiley Online Library
http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/bibliography/related_files/jmgregory0201.pdf
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A2.lrg.gif
http://www.jamstec.go.jp/frsgc/research/d5/jdannan/probrevised.pdf
Relationships between tropical sea surface temperature and top-of-atmosphere radiation - Trenberth - 2010 - Geophysical Research Letters - Wiley Online Library
http://www.amath.washington.edu/research/articles/Tung/journals/solar-jgr.pdf
Carbon dioxide forcing alone insufficient to explain Palaeocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum warming : Abstract : Nature Geoscience
Effect of climate sensitivity on the response to volcanic forcing - Wigley - 2005 - Journal of Geophysical Research: Atmospheres (1984?2012) - Wiley Online Library
http://homepages.see.leeds.ac.uk/~earpmf/papers/ForsterandGregory2006.pdf
Constraining climate sensitivity with linear fits to outgoing radiation - Murphy - 2010 - Geophysical Research Letters - Wiley Online Library
http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2008/2008_Hansen_etal.pdf
Revisiting the determination of climate sensitivity from relationships between surface temperature and radiative fluxes - Chung - 2010 - Geophysical Research Letters - Wiley Online Library
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/wg1/ar4-wg1-chapter2.pdf
http://www.pik-potsdam.de/~stefan/Publications/Book_chapters/Rahmstorf_Zedillo_2008.pdf
IPCC - Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
Human "fingerprints" showing humans caused the current global
temperature anomaly:
Climate Scientist Benjamin Santer | Union of Concerned Scientists
NASA - Just 5 Questions: Fingerprinting the Climate
10 Indicators of a Human Fingerprint on Climate Change
http://www.ucsusa.org/assets/documents/global_warming/humanfingerprintshighres.pdf
Climate?s Strong Fingerprint In Global Cholera Outbreaks by Sonia Shah: Yale Environment 360
'Fingerprinting' method reveals fate of mercury in Arctic snow -- ScienceDaily
"Attribution of the present-day total greenhouse effect"
http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2010/2010_Schmidt_etal_1.pdf
"Infrared radiation and planetary temperature"
http://ptonline.aip.org/journals/doc/PHTOAD-ft/vol_64/iss_1/33_1.shtml
http://geosci.uchicago.edu/~rtp1/papers/PhysTodayRT2011.pdf
I realize I just said "Go find them yourself", but since I came across these serendipitously...
You keep fucking yourself because I read them and I didn't find a single lab experiment that controlled for a wisp of CO2.From the Mythbuster's soundtrack beginning at 1:23.
"To make sure it all runs to plan, the guys have called in Manij Gupta (SP?), a gas monitoring expert from Los Gatos Research. The Earth' CO2 levels stand at around 350 parts per million and methane, a tiny 1800 parts per billion. But amounts that small are no problem for this gear. [Gupta] "The methane is in the part per billion level. The CO2 in the parts per million level". So now, they can up the greenhouse gas levels in minutely accurate increments. And once the gases are in, everyone can chill out and... uh... watch ice melt."
And, while looking to see if anyone had ever convinced the show's producers to provide a little more detail, I came across the following:
JSTOR: An Error Occurred Setting Your User Cookie
Optics InfoBase: Journal of the Optical Society of America - Rotation-Vibration Spectra of Diatomic and Simple Polyatomic Molecules with Long Absorbing Paths
http://www-ramanathan.ucsd.edu/RamAmbio.pdf
Optics InfoBase: Applied Optics - Total Absorptance of Carbon Dioxide in the Infrared
Storming Media's time has ended.
Papers on laboratory measurements of CO2 absorption properties « AGW Observer
Increases in greenhouse forcing inferred from the outgoing longwave radiation spectra of the Earth in 1970 and 1997 : Abstract : Nature
http://spiedl.aip.org/getabs/servle...0001000164000001&idtype=cvips&gifs=yes&ref=no
Kirchhoff's law of thermal radiation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://www.sundogpublishing.com/AtmosRad/index.html
Taylor Dome - Carbon Dioxide Data, 0-11 KYrBP
Historical CO2 Records from the Law Dome DE08, DE08-2, and DSS Ice Cores
Global, Regional, and National Fossil-Fuel CO2 Emissions
http://www.bgc.mpg.de/service/iso_gas_lab/publications/PG_WB_IJMS.pdf
http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/Report/AR4WG1_Pub_Ch02.pdf
http://www.eumetsat.int/Home/Main/P...nts/document/pdf_conf_p50_s9_01_harries_v.pdf
Global atmospheric downward longwave radiation over land surface under all-sky conditions from 1973 to 2008 - Wang - 2009 - Journal of Geophysical Research: Atmospheres (1984?2012) - Wiley Online Library
http://landshape.org/enm/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/philipona2004-radiation.pdf
http://ams.confex.com/ams/Annual2006/techprogram/paper_100737.htm
Scientific Evidence - Increasing Temperatures & Greenhouse Gases
Woods Hole Research Center ? Climate Change Primer
The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect
The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect
http://www.iac.ethz.ch/people/knuttir/papers/knutti08natgeo.pdf
MIT Joint Program on the Science and Policy of Global Change
On the determination of climate feedbacks from ERBE data - Lindzen - 2009 - Geophysical Research Letters - Wiley Online Library
http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/bibliography/related_files/jmgregory0201.pdf
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A2.lrg.gif
http://www.jamstec.go.jp/frsgc/research/d5/jdannan/probrevised.pdf
Relationships between tropical sea surface temperature and top-of-atmosphere radiation - Trenberth - 2010 - Geophysical Research Letters - Wiley Online Library
http://www.amath.washington.edu/research/articles/Tung/journals/solar-jgr.pdf
Carbon dioxide forcing alone insufficient to explain Palaeocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum warming : Abstract : Nature Geoscience
Effect of climate sensitivity on the response to volcanic forcing - Wigley - 2005 - Journal of Geophysical Research: Atmospheres (1984?2012) - Wiley Online Library
http://homepages.see.leeds.ac.uk/~earpmf/papers/ForsterandGregory2006.pdf
Constraining climate sensitivity with linear fits to outgoing radiation - Murphy - 2010 - Geophysical Research Letters - Wiley Online Library
http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2008/2008_Hansen_etal.pdf
Revisiting the determination of climate sensitivity from relationships between surface temperature and radiative fluxes - Chung - 2010 - Geophysical Research Letters - Wiley Online Library
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/wg1/ar4-wg1-chapter2.pdf
http://www.pik-potsdam.de/~stefan/Publications/Book_chapters/Rahmstorf_Zedillo_2008.pdf
IPCC - Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
Human "fingerprints" showing humans caused the current global
temperature anomaly:
Climate Scientist Benjamin Santer | Union of Concerned Scientists
NASA - Just 5 Questions: Fingerprinting the Climate
10 Indicators of a Human Fingerprint on Climate Change
http://www.ucsusa.org/assets/documents/global_warming/humanfingerprintshighres.pdf
Climate?s Strong Fingerprint In Global Cholera Outbreaks by Sonia Shah: Yale Environment 360
'Fingerprinting' method reveals fate of mercury in Arctic snow -- ScienceDaily
"Attribution of the present-day total greenhouse effect"
http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2010/2010_Schmidt_etal_1.pdf
"Infrared radiation and planetary temperature"
http://ptonline.aip.org/journals/doc/PHTOAD-ft/vol_64/iss_1/33_1.shtml
http://geosci.uchicago.edu/~rtp1/papers/PhysTodayRT2011.pdf
I realize I just said "Go find them yourself", but since I came across these serendipitously...
But our dunderheads will not read one of those papers. And if they did, they would not understand it. People like SSDD and Frankie boy have demonstrated repeatedly that they have less than the logical abilities of an adolescent.
link, link, link,
what a bunch of idiots, playing links like you all are playing a game of "Go Fish"
The Earth is fine, its the power hungry idiots, the Liberals, the Democrats, who have Global Brain Warming.
