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there, I said it. Feel free to prove me wrong with empirical fact. go on
They also wanted total government control, seeing as how it worked out so well with England in charge of the colonies.there, I said it. Feel free to prove me wrong with empirical fact. go on
They obviously weren't conservative. They were revolutionaries, which makes them radicals.
Funny how each side tries desperately to claim the founders. My theory, they'd be totally ashamed and horrified by both parties. Those dudes would not have belonged to either of these band of fuckers.
Radicals against state control, power and very strong capitalists. Most were business owners trying to protect their businesses against government oppression as well. Mercantilism sucks and I'm certain that communism and this current belief in entitlements would make them vomit with rage.there, I said it. Feel free to prove me wrong with empirical fact. go on
They obviously weren't conservative. They were revolutionaries, which makes them radicals.
there, I said it. Feel free to prove me wrong with empirical fact. go on
Why don't you do your job and prove your point?
there, I said it. Feel free to prove me wrong with empirical fact. go on
Why don't you do your job and prove your point?
In the founding/revolutionary quote thread i provided around 30 very telling quotes that proved conclusively that the ideas of the organizer of the Boston Tea Party (Sam Adams), the author of Common Sense (Tom Paine), the author of the Declaration of Independence (Tom Jefferson) and the Author of our Bill of Rights (Jemmy Madison) were significantly at variance with the fundamental (as well as many petty) talking points of modern conservatism. I did my job
What job was that?there, I said it. Feel free to prove me wrong with empirical fact. go on
Why don't you do your job and prove your point?
In the founding/revolutionary quote thread i provided around 30 very telling quotes that proved conclusively that the ideas of the organizer of the Boston Tea Party (Sam Adams), the author of Common Sense (Tom Paine), the author of the Declaration of Independence (Tom Jefferson) and the Author of our Bill of Rights (Jemmy Madison) were significantly at variance with the fundamental (as well as many petty) talking points of modern conservatism. I did my job
Why don't you do your job and prove your point?
In the founding/revolutionary quote thread i provided around 30 very telling quotes that proved conclusively that the ideas of the organizer of the Boston Tea Party (Sam Adams), the author of Common Sense (Tom Paine), the author of the Declaration of Independence (Tom Jefferson) and the Author of our Bill of Rights (Jemmy Madison) were significantly at variance with the fundamental (as well as many petty) talking points of modern conservatism. I did my job
Provide the link.
Well, let's think it through.
The fundamental values espoused by the Founders and Framers when it comes to government is in line with the thinking of today's conservatives.
The liberals reject the Founders' and Framers' notions of the proper role of government, by and large.
So, if it's true that in their day the Founders were not "conservatives," it's also true that in our day they would be anything but "liberals."
In the founding/revolutionary quote thread i provided around 30 very telling quotes that proved conclusively that the ideas of the organizer of the Boston Tea Party (Sam Adams), the author of Common Sense (Tom Paine), the author of the Declaration of Independence (Tom Jefferson) and the Author of our Bill of Rights (Jemmy Madison) were significantly at variance with the fundamental (as well as many petty) talking points of modern conservatism. I did my job
Provide the link.
You know Thomas Paine suggested both a progressive income tax, and Social Security, right?
Provide the link.
You know Thomas Paine suggested both a progressive income tax, and Social Security, right?
That's a talking pointless.
I want you to provide the link to the THREAD in which you allegedly did your job.