Discussion in 'Politics' started by Agit8r, Dec 11, 2010.
there, I said it. Feel free to prove me wrong with empirical fact. go on
That's true. They were however, not statists either.
that is true. they were not
Why don't you do your job and prove your point?
They obviously weren't conservative. They were revolutionaries, which makes them radicals.
No it doesn't. When it comes to tyranny, it doesn't take "radicals" to rise against it. It takes people who believe they are obligated to fight tyranny, and liberals don't have a monopoly on that. In fact, they don't even have a place in that.
The Founders were, in the end, "rats" and "anti-rats", the liberals and conservatives for their days. The difference revolved around how much power the national government should have, and of course, Washington and Hamilton and Adams and Madison (initially) and Marshall and Jay and others were all big government dudes.
Funny how each side tries desperately to claim the founders. My theory, they'd be totally ashamed and horrified by both parties. Those dudes would not have belonged to either of these band of fuckers.
They also wanted total government control, seeing as how it worked out so well with England in charge of the colonies.
Indeed they would be horrified at "both" of our "two" political parties
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