O'Reilly Gets Owned Again

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Max Power said:
No, you're just crying wolf. I'm sorry, crying persecution.

"But these are already existing things"
SO WAS SLAVERY.
Doesn't make it right.

So quit your whining.

I'm not crying anything. I'm just calling a spade a spade.

Your attempt to compare Christianity to slavery is as sorry as your first comparison.

You are refusing to see what is blatantly obvious for no more reason than partisan politics. Sheep.
 
GunnyL said:
I'm not crying anything. I'm just calling a spade a spade.

Your attempt to compare Christianity to slavery is as sorry as your first comparison.
I didn't compare Christianity to slavery. I simply pointed out that Christianity advocates slavery.

You are refusing to see what is blatantly obvious for no more reason than partisan politics. Sheep.
Yeah... that's it. Take a good look at the first amendment, cuz that's pretty blatantly obvious and you seem to be missing a good portion of it.
 
Max Power said:
Find an example of one of my posts quoting the bible that demonstrates how I don't understand freedom of religion.
Or STFU.

I think you'll choose the latter, cuz you're talking out of your ass ;)


Biggest socialist the White House has ever seen
p_bushmainp.jpg

And you seem to love him

is it ok for bush to say that he speaks with god when making decissions

bush, biggest socialist ever?

i would think the pres that created social security and national work programs and centralized or even the pres that wanted national health care or the one that created govt' "controled" monopolies would be a better choice

besides bush can't be a socialist ...he isn't smart enough...or are he saying he is as smart as lenin or castro?
 
Max Power said:
You don't know what persecution MEANS.

Christians are trying to shove THEIR religion down the throats of other people, by trying to put it on display on public property. Not being allowed to do this is NOT persecution.

NOBODY is trying to stop Christians from putting religion on display on their own property.

Why don't you go talk to a holocaust survivor, and when you're done, we'll see if you still think that not being allowed to put a religious display at town hall (instead of at church, or on your lawn) is persecution.


I am wasting my time addressing you except that I'm just really bored...so may I ask you a question:Are you a disgruntled Jew? You seem to quote the "Old Testament" quite a bit and attack the "New Testament...And your comment as related above...""Why don't you go talk to a holocaust survivor" seems to give a pretty good picture of who you are and where you are going with this diatribe! Since the ACLU was founded by a card carrying communist and most attorneys associated with the ACLU are non practising Jews...non Orthodox to be more precise...I do believe this is a personal issue with you rather than a true debate...I'm done with you...adios! :bye1:
 
manu1959 said:
is it ok for bush to say that he speaks with god when making decissions
I don't care who he speaks to when he makes decisions.

bush, biggest socialist ever?

i would think the pres that created social security and national work programs and centralized or even the pres that wanted national health care or the one that created govt' "controled" monopolies would be a better choice
http://carriedaway.blogs.com/carrie.... Spending And Revenue In Relation To GDP.GIF

Not counting money spent during WW2 (I think that's a fair exception), he's doing a lot more spending than the pres that created SS.

besides bush can't be a socialist ...he isn't smart enough...or are he saying he is as smart as lenin or castro?
I don't see what being smart has to do with being a socialist.
 
archangel said:
I am wasting my time addressing you except that I'm just really bored...so may I ask you a question:Are you a disgruntled Jew? You seem to quote the "Old Testament" quite a bit and attack the "New Testament...And your comment as related above...""Why don't you go talk to a holocaust survivor" seems to give a pretty good picture of who you are and where you are going with this diatribe! Since the ACLU was founded by a card carrying communist and most attorneys associated with the ACLU are non practising Jews...non Orthodox to be more precise...I do believe this is a personal issue with you rather than a true debate...I'm done with you...adios! :bye1:

I don't really see how that's any of your business. Let's just leave it at that. Perhaps I'd answer your question if you were a little more civil.
 
Max Power said:
I don't care who he speaks to when he makes decisions.


http://carriedaway.blogs.com/carrie.... Spending And Revenue In Relation To GDP.GIF

Not counting money spent during WW2 (I think that's a fair exception), he's doing a lot more spending than the pres that created SS.


I don't see what being smart has to do with being a socialist.

fair enough.....how does spending money make you a socialist? and if you can exclude WWII why can't Bush exclude the "war on terror"? I belive Bush's spending would be below clinton's if not for 9/11 afganistan and iraq.
 
manu1959 said:
fair enough.....how does spending money make you a socialist? and if you can exclude WWII why can't Bush exclude the "war on terror"? I belive Bush's spending would be below clinton's if not for 9/11 afganistan and iraq.
Because he's spending money on socialist programs, like No Child Left Behind.

You can exclude the war on terror, but the spending increases began before the war on terror began.

See for yourself. Do you really believe Bush's spending would be below Clinton's?

http://www.cato.org/research/fiscal_policy/bush/fig4.html
 
Max Power said:
Because he's spending money on socialist programs, like No Child Left Behind.

You can exclude the war on terror, but the spending increases began before the war on terror began.

See for yourself. Do you really believe Bush's spending would be below Clinton's?

http://www.cato.org/research/fiscal_policy/bush/fig4.html

publicly funded education is socialist? i thought all americans had a "right" to an education.

what expenditures did bush approve in the 9 months prior to 9/11

question about clinton finances.....did they book the actual or future cost savings of closing the military bases and corrosponding military savings? and did they book the cost of the clean up in thier budget or push it into future budgets.....be carful here because my company is work on four projects on military bases in california .... and for some reason the clean up line item in the pre bush budget is zero....
 
Max Power said:
I didn't compare Christianity to slavery. I simply pointed out that Christianity advocates slavery.


Yeah... that's it. Take a good look at the first amendment, cuz that's pretty blatantly obvious and you seem to be missing a good portion of it.

1. Christianity does not advocate slavery.

2. The only part of the Constitution I'm missing is the part you read into it that ISN'T THERE.
 
archangel said:
I am wasting my time addressing you except that I'm just really bored...so may I ask you a question:Are you a disgruntled Jew? You seem to quote the "Old Testament" quite a bit and attack the "New Testament...And your comment as related above...""Why don't you go talk to a holocaust survivor" seems to give a pretty good picture of who you are and where you are going with this diatribe! Since the ACLU was founded by a card carrying communist and most attorneys associated with the ACLU are non practising Jews...non Orthodox to be more precise...I do believe this is a personal issue with you rather than a true debate...I'm done with you...adios! :bye1:

How do you know that most ACLU associated attorneys are non-practising jews?
 
The ClayTaurus said:
How do you know that most ACLU associated attorneys are non-practising jews?


I knew right after I hit the post button...oh shit! now I will have to deal with Mr.Congeniality non other than Clay the magnificient...well shit clay how should I know...just a guess... and left it up to Max to explain...however he said I was not civil enough even though he told me "STFU" on a previous post..
So may I suggest you ask max...he seems to claim to have all the answers...!
 
archangel said:
I knew right after I hit the post button...oh shit! now I will have to deal with Mr.Congeniality non other than Clay the magnificient...well shit clay how should I know...just a guess... and left it up to Max to explain...however he said I was not civil enough even though he told me "STFU" on a previous post..
So may I suggest you ask max...he seems to claim to have all the answers...!
So, you just made that part up? I'd prefer to ask you about it, since you're who made the statement; Max has nothing to do with the question I asked you. But if you'd prefer to continue smokescreening, by all means. Go ahead and tell me it was another bait to catch liberals and show how much of a know-it-all I think I am. That one worked out real well for you last time.
 
The ClayTaurus said:
So, you just made that part up? I'd prefer to ask you about it, since you're who made the statement; Max has nothing to do with the question I asked you. But if you'd prefer to continue smokescreening, by all means. Go ahead and tell me it was another bait to catch liberals and show how much of a know-it-all I think I am. That one worked out real well for you last time.


I said nothing of the sort...read max's answer...I was not baiting anyone including you your majesty...you are the one who butted in...I gave max the opportunity to answer...he chose not too...are you his chosen stand in or are you self appointed...or maybe just wanting a little attention this evening! If you think I was out of line and wish to disprove my 'guess' based on max's diatribe...well go google it...see what ya can find out! :scratch:


side note.....did not expect a statement as above...oh well my mistake!
 
archangel said:
I said nothing of the sort...read max's answer...I was not baiting anyone including you your majesty...you are the one who butted in...I gave max the opportunity to answer...he chose not too...are you his chosen stand in or are you self appointed...or maybe just wanting a little attention this evening! If you think I was out of line and wish to disprove my 'guess' based on max's diatribe...well go google it...see what ya can find out! :scratch:


side note.....did not expect a statement as above...oh well my mistake!
Another post, another dodge. Did you make up what you said about ACLU lawyers all being jews, or do you have a source? It's very simple, if you answer the question, I go away.
 
The ClayTaurus said:
Another post, another dodge. Did you make up what you said about ACLU lawyers all being jews, or do you have a source? It's very simple, if you answer the question, I go away.


and if ya want to quote me please quote correctly...I said most not all...and it was a sarcastic guess based on max's failure to address whether he was a disgruntled Jew and a member of the ACLU...being that you have no Idea of what a 'closer' does to sollicit information...I suggest you stick with your day job!If ya want to call this another post and dodge... so be it... just go away...
:teeth:
 
archangel said:
and if ya want to quote me please quote correctly...I said most not all...and it was a sarcastic guess based on max's failure to address whether he was a disgruntled Jew and a member of the ACLU...being that you have no Idea of what a 'closer' does to sollicit information...I suggest you stick with your day job!If ya want to call this another post and dodge... so be it... just go away...
:teeth:

Ok. You made it up. That's all I was wondering. Thanks.
 
Max Power said:
Find an example of one of my posts quoting the bible that demonstrates how I don't understand freedom of religion.
Or STFU.

I think you'll choose the latter, cuz you're talking out of your ass ;)


Biggest socialist the White House has ever seen
p_bushmainp.jpg

And you seem to love him


He's A) Christian B) A capitalist C) A Republican.

Max you've GOT to put down the crack pipe sometimes before you post nonsense.
 
The ClayTaurus said:
Ok. You made it up. That's all I was wondering. Thanks.



it was my best guess...research not completed...however most found were Jewish....starting with the ACLU president Nadine Strossen and working down state by state.. (Nadines father was one half Jewish holcaust survivor) Her husband is also Jewish..and a professor at Columbia University...Eli M. Noam

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadine_Strossen


working on research using www.answers.com searching list of jewish attorneys aclu..jewish-american political figures...also using wikipedia links...very interesting!
 
Max Power said:
You don't know what persecution MEANS.

Christians are trying to shove THEIR religion down the throats of other people, by trying to put it on display on public property. Not being allowed to do this is NOT persecution.

NOBODY is trying to stop Christians from putting religion on display on their own property.

Why don't you go talk to a holocaust survivor, and when you're done, we'll see if you still think that not being allowed to put a religious display at town hall (instead of at church, or on your lawn) is persecution.

Christmas displays, whether or private on public property is NOT shoving religion down peoples throats. You know that, everyone knows that. Its too damn obvious.
 
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