Oregon Bakers: You get to pay 135,000 for being radical religious morons, Judge so orders!

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    That's what you're saying lol. This cake was somehow different than all the cakes they offered. It wasn't that they don't serve gay people, as I've shown.
     
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    I'm not saying the cake is different if purchased by a same-sex couple than if purchased by a different-sex couple. That is your claim.

    I've asked before for an explanation of how they were different and you have run away from the question.


    The fact that they may have sold them other products is irrelevant.

    Providing all products and services to one group while limiting the same products and services to another another group is a clear violation of the law. I've posted the Oregon statutes for you, the law requires full and equal access to goods and services, not a subset of goods and services.


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    Because if the cakes were not different, then there is no case. We know the bakery served gays, so that is not the issue. It was a cake that was not offered to gays or straights or blacks or whites.

    Why should the gays get a cake that is somehow different from those offered everyone else. Are they special people?
     
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    The fact that they may have sold them other products is irrelevant.

    Providing all products and services to one group while limiting the same products and services to another another group is a clear violation of the law. I've posted the Oregon statutes for you, the law requires full and equal access to goods and services, not a subset of goods and services.


    Your attempted strawman argument fails in view of facts agreed to by the bakers, there was never any discussion of design at the Wedding Cake tasting appointment since service was refused as soon as Mr. Klein understood that the party Ms. Klein invited included 2 brides.


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    You haven't made a cogent case at all. I've totally destroyed your c/p's throughout. To the point you simply paste without addressing the issue.

    Why were the dykes not served?
     
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    Actually you haven't you have attempted to deflect and use strawman argument.s

    Because they were lesbians seeking a Wedding Cake for their wedding. Wedding cakes being a product the baker normally supplied.


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    Outta here, gotta hit the road.


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    Because they were lesbians? The baker serves lesbians.

    Because they were seeking a wedding cake? The baker offered them a wedding cake.

    Did they demand some product that the baker didn't sell to anyone else because they're special people?
     
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    Not sure if you missed it earlier, but the exact cake they wanted was this one:

    "Fanasty Fruit-filled cake: Fluffy white cake filled with your choice of berry and a white chocolate cream."
    Signature Cakes Menu - Sweet Cakes

    It's straight from their standard "Signature" menu. The consumers get to decide what fruit filling they want...(they wanted raspberry, just like the bakers sold their straight mother for her wedding a few years back) --

    So this part about "custom" cake should be thrown out the window. Other than: I pick strawberry!

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    Those cakes aren't going to bake themselves. They're custom made to order.

    Why weren't the dykes served? Did they want something that wasn't offered to everybody, because they're special people?
     

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