"One of my daughters could not read at 11 years old." Christian homeschooling problems

[hadit]

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"And she says the lack of regulation in Nebraska, where the family lived, “allowed us to get away with some really shoddy homeschooling for a lot of years.”

“I’ll admit it,” she confesses. “Because I was so overwhelmed with my life… It was a real struggle to do the basics, so it didn’t take long for my kids to fall far behind. One of my daughters could not read at 11 years old.”

Why did she stick with homeschooling for so long, despite her difficulties? “We were convinced that it would be better for our kids not to have an education than to be educated to become humanists or atheists and to reject God,” Garrison says. “We became so isolated because the Quiverfull lifestyle was so overwhelming we didn’t have time or energy for socialization. So the only people we knew were exactly like us. We were told that the whole point of public school was to dumb down the children and turn them into compliant workers – to brainwash them and indoctrinate them into this godless way of thinking.”"

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the only reason most people homeschool is they're afraid their children will meet other people who don't think like them or actually learn science instead of the bible.

I call blind stupidity on that one.

You forget things like autism and ADD, which make it difficult, if not impossible for a kid to learn in an environment where it's more important he/she learns to sit down and shut up than to be educated.

 

[Sbiker]

Early on, the Catholics held mass in Latin which most people didn't understand.

But as I know, in the Medieval age it allows to most of students and educated people to teach Latin and made the science international

When/If you take astronomy in college, "God made the Earth" stands exposed as one of a multitude of falsehoods. So forbid kids from taking astronomy is what ya do if you want em to be religious.

There's no any opposition between "God made the Earth" and any hypothesis of Earth creation, because people should not border God in tools and processes of Earth creation. He created rules of physics... BTW, who initiated the Big Bang of our universe?
Copernicus and church were not antagonists... I don't understand, how the Darwin theory or any other science theory disprove the God existance? On the contrary, some physics paradoxes... no, not prove the God existance, but make good questions to meditate

 

[hadit]

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"And she says the lack of regulation in Nebraska, where the family lived, “allowed us to get away with some really shoddy homeschooling for a lot of years.”

“I’ll admit it,” she confesses. “Because I was so overwhelmed with my life… It was a real struggle to do the basics, so it didn’t take long for my kids to fall far behind. One of my daughters could not read at 11 years old.”

Why did she stick with homeschooling for so long, despite her difficulties? “We were convinced that it would be better for our kids not to have an education than to be educated to become humanists or atheists and to reject God,” Garrison says. “We became so isolated because the Quiverfull lifestyle was so overwhelming we didn’t have time or energy for socialization. So the only people we knew were exactly like us. We were told that the whole point of public school was to dumb down the children and turn them into compliant workers – to brainwash them and indoctrinate them into this godless way of thinking.”"

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the only reason most people homeschool is they're afraid their children will meet other people who don't think like them or actually learn science instead of the bible.

A lot of it has to do with parents who are criminals, and parents who fear exposing their kids to violence in certain schools.

I only fear kids of mine being taught "Columbus discovered America." type nonsense.

It's amazing the garbage that passes for education in government schools today.

 

[jillian]

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"And she says the lack of regulation in Nebraska, where the family lived, “allowed us to get away with some really shoddy homeschooling for a lot of years.”

“I’ll admit it,” she confesses. “Because I was so overwhelmed with my life… It was a real struggle to do the basics, so it didn’t take long for my kids to fall far behind. One of my daughters could not read at 11 years old.”

Why did she stick with homeschooling for so long, despite her difficulties? “We were convinced that it would be better for our kids not to have an education than to be educated to become humanists or atheists and to reject God,” Garrison says. “We became so isolated because the Quiverfull lifestyle was so overwhelming we didn’t have time or energy for socialization. So the only people we knew were exactly like us. We were told that the whole point of public school was to dumb down the children and turn them into compliant workers – to brainwash them and indoctrinate them into this godless way of thinking.”"

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the only reason most people homeschool is they're afraid their children will meet other people who don't think like them or actually learn science instead of the bible.

Article actually mentions the homeschooling is popular among evangelicals who 'fear their chidlren will grow up to become humanists and atheists.' Stands out to me as amusing since I identify with humanism and atheism.

that is funny. kids learn a lot of things when they leave the nest. obviously they don't think much of their religion if they think it can't withstand outside influences. i'm just not sure how keeping kids ignorant is good parenting.

 

[boedicca]

And in New York City, 80% of the public school students are functionally illiterate.

Shocker 80 of NYC graduates unable to read RT USA

But let's focus on one home schooled kid.

 

[Roadrunner]

Or that the Mercator world maps are in anyway accurate. Inaccurate maps of the world cause surprisingly significant problems in how we think about other countries.

Mercator projection was explained to us very well around first or second grade, when we began to encounter people who had not grown up with maps and globes

I hated having to listen to it so many times.

 

[hadit]

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"And she says the lack of regulation in Nebraska, where the family lived, “allowed us to get away with some really shoddy homeschooling for a lot of years.”

“I’ll admit it,” she confesses. “Because I was so overwhelmed with my life… It was a real struggle to do the basics, so it didn’t take long for my kids to fall far behind. One of my daughters could not read at 11 years old.”

Why did she stick with homeschooling for so long, despite her difficulties? “We were convinced that it would be better for our kids not to have an education than to be educated to become humanists or atheists and to reject God,” Garrison says. “We became so isolated because the Quiverfull lifestyle was so overwhelming we didn’t have time or energy for socialization. So the only people we knew were exactly like us. We were told that the whole point of public school was to dumb down the children and turn them into compliant workers – to brainwash them and indoctrinate them into this godless way of thinking.”"

rest at link

the only reason most people homeschool is they're afraid their children will meet other people who don't think like them or actually learn science instead of the bible.

Article actually mentions the homeschooling is popular among evangelicals who 'fear their chidlren will grow up to become humanists and atheists.' Stands out to me as amusing since I identify with humanism and atheism.

that is funny. kids learn a lot of things when they leave the nest. obviously they don't think much of their religion if they think it can't withstand outside influences. i'm just not sure how keeping kids ignorant is good parenting.

Which is why you want to homeschool them, so they actually learn. You do know, don't you, that homeschooled kids by and large outperform their government schooled peers by large margins?

 

[jillian]

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"And she says the lack of regulation in Nebraska, where the family lived, “allowed us to get away with some really shoddy homeschooling for a lot of years.”

“I’ll admit it,” she confesses. “Because I was so overwhelmed with my life… It was a real struggle to do the basics, so it didn’t take long for my kids to fall far behind. One of my daughters could not read at 11 years old.”

Why did she stick with homeschooling for so long, despite her difficulties? “We were convinced that it would be better for our kids not to have an education than to be educated to become humanists or atheists and to reject God,” Garrison says. “We became so isolated because the Quiverfull lifestyle was so overwhelming we didn’t have time or energy for socialization. So the only people we knew were exactly like us. We were told that the whole point of public school was to dumb down the children and turn them into compliant workers – to brainwash them and indoctrinate them into this godless way of thinking.”"

rest at link

the only reason most people homeschool is they're afraid their children will meet other people who don't think like them or actually learn science instead of the bible.

A lot of it has to do with parents who are criminals, and parents who fear exposing their kids to violence in certain schools.

no it doesn't.

 

[jillian]

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"And she says the lack of regulation in Nebraska, where the family lived, “allowed us to get away with some really shoddy homeschooling for a lot of years.”

“I’ll admit it,” she confesses. “Because I was so overwhelmed with my life… It was a real struggle to do the basics, so it didn’t take long for my kids to fall far behind. One of my daughters could not read at 11 years old.”

Why did she stick with homeschooling for so long, despite her difficulties? “We were convinced that it would be better for our kids not to have an education than to be educated to become humanists or atheists and to reject God,” Garrison says. “We became so isolated because the Quiverfull lifestyle was so overwhelming we didn’t have time or energy for socialization. So the only people we knew were exactly like us. We were told that the whole point of public school was to dumb down the children and turn them into compliant workers – to brainwash them and indoctrinate them into this godless way of thinking.”"

rest at link

the only reason most people homeschool is they're afraid their children will meet other people who don't think like them or actually learn science instead of the bible.

Article actually mentions the homeschooling is popular among evangelicals who 'fear their chidlren will grow up to become humanists and atheists.' Stands out to me as amusing since I identify with humanism and atheism.

that is funny. kids learn a lot of things when they leave the nest. obviously they don't think much of their religion if they think it can't withstand outside influences. i'm just not sure how keeping kids ignorant is good parenting.

Which is why you want to homeschool them, so they actually learn. You do know, don't you, that homeschooled kids by and large outperform their government schooled peers by large margins?

my public school taught son can outthink pretty much any person who is homeschooled and thinks the world is 5,000 years old.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

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"And she says the lack of regulation in Nebraska, where the family lived, “allowed us to get away with some really shoddy homeschooling for a lot of years.”

“I’ll admit it,” she confesses. “Because I was so overwhelmed with my life… It was a real struggle to do the basics, so it didn’t take long for my kids to fall far behind. One of my daughters could not read at 11 years old.”

Why did she stick with homeschooling for so long, despite her difficulties? “We were convinced that it would be better for our kids not to have an education than to be educated to become humanists or atheists and to reject God,” Garrison says. “We became so isolated because the Quiverfull lifestyle was so overwhelming we didn’t have time or energy for socialization. So the only people we knew were exactly like us. We were told that the whole point of public school was to dumb down the children and turn them into compliant workers – to brainwash them and indoctrinate them into this godless way of thinking.”"

rest at link

the only reason most people homeschool is they're afraid their children will meet other people who don't think like them or actually learn science instead of the bible.

Article actually mentions the homeschooling is popular among evangelicals who 'fear their chidlren will grow up to become humanists and atheists.' Stands out to me as amusing since I identify with humanism and atheism.

that is funny. kids learn a lot of things when they leave the nest. obviously they don't think much of their religion if they think it can't withstand outside influences. i'm just not sure how keeping kids ignorant is good parenting.

Which is why you want to homeschool them, so they actually learn. You do know, don't you, that homeschooled kids by and large outperform their government schooled peers by large margins?

Secular ones do. Probably not these evangelical ones.

 

[Roadrunner]

Early on, the Catholics held mass in Latin which most people didn't understand.

But as I know, in the Medieval age it allows to most of students and educated people to teach Latin and made the science international

When/If you take astronomy in college, "God made the Earth" stands exposed as one of a multitude of falsehoods. So forbid kids from taking astronomy is what ya do if you want em to be religious.

There's no any opposition between "God made the Earth" and any hypothesis of Earth creation, because people should not border God in tools and processes of Earth creation. He created rules of physics... BTW, who initiated the Big Bang of our universe?
Copernicus and church were not antagonists... I don't understand, how the Darwin theory or any other science theory disprove the God existance? On the contrary, some physics paradoxes... no, not prove the God existance, but make good questions to meditate

God said "Let there be light, and there was light".

BANG!

All things set in motion.

All part of the plan.

All the proof of God I need, besides His presence in my life, which I long denied and fought.

 

[hadit]

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"And she says the lack of regulation in Nebraska, where the family lived, “allowed us to get away with some really shoddy homeschooling for a lot of years.”

“I’ll admit it,” she confesses. “Because I was so overwhelmed with my life… It was a real struggle to do the basics, so it didn’t take long for my kids to fall far behind. One of my daughters could not read at 11 years old.”

Why did she stick with homeschooling for so long, despite her difficulties? “We were convinced that it would be better for our kids not to have an education than to be educated to become humanists or atheists and to reject God,” Garrison says. “We became so isolated because the Quiverfull lifestyle was so overwhelming we didn’t have time or energy for socialization. So the only people we knew were exactly like us. We were told that the whole point of public school was to dumb down the children and turn them into compliant workers – to brainwash them and indoctrinate them into this godless way of thinking.”"

rest at link

the only reason most people homeschool is they're afraid their children will meet other people who don't think like them or actually learn science instead of the bible.

Article actually mentions the homeschooling is popular among evangelicals who 'fear their chidlren will grow up to become humanists and atheists.' Stands out to me as amusing since I identify with humanism and atheism.

that is funny. kids learn a lot of things when they leave the nest. obviously they don't think much of their religion if they think it can't withstand outside influences. i'm just not sure how keeping kids ignorant is good parenting.

Which is why you want to homeschool them, so they actually learn. You do know, don't you, that homeschooled kids by and large outperform their government schooled peers by large margins?

my public school taught son can outthink pretty much any person who is homeschooled and thinks the world is 5,000 years old.

Really? What accelerated programs did he excel in? You do know, don't you, that homeschooled kids are often ready for college 1 to 2 years before government schooled ones? It's hard to argue with success.

 

[Roadrunner]

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"And she says the lack of regulation in Nebraska, where the family lived, “allowed us to get away with some really shoddy homeschooling for a lot of years.”

“I’ll admit it,” she confesses. “Because I was so overwhelmed with my life… It was a real struggle to do the basics, so it didn’t take long for my kids to fall far behind. One of my daughters could not read at 11 years old.”

Why did she stick with homeschooling for so long, despite her difficulties? “We were convinced that it would be better for our kids not to have an education than to be educated to become humanists or atheists and to reject God,” Garrison says. “We became so isolated because the Quiverfull lifestyle was so overwhelming we didn’t have time or energy for socialization. So the only people we knew were exactly like us. We were told that the whole point of public school was to dumb down the children and turn them into compliant workers – to brainwash them and indoctrinate them into this godless way of thinking.”"

rest at link

the only reason most people homeschool is they're afraid their children will meet other people who don't think like them or actually learn science instead of the bible.

Article actually mentions the homeschooling is popular among evangelicals who 'fear their chidlren will grow up to become humanists and atheists.' Stands out to me as amusing since I identify with humanism and atheism.

that is funny. kids learn a lot of things when they leave the nest. obviously they don't think much of their religion if they think it can't withstand outside influences. i'm just not sure how keeping kids ignorant is good parenting.

Which is why you want to homeschool them, so they actually learn. You do know, don't you, that homeschooled kids by and large outperform their government schooled peers by large margins?

my public school taught son can outthink pretty much any person who is homeschooled and thinks the world is 5,000 years old.

I've never met anyone who actually held the view that the world was 5,000-6,000 years old.

 

[Roadrunner]

the only reason most people homeschool is they're afraid their children will meet other people who don't think like them or actually learn science instead of the bible.

Article actually mentions the homeschooling is popular among evangelicals who 'fear their chidlren will grow up to become humanists and atheists.' Stands out to me as amusing since I identify with humanism and atheism.

that is funny. kids learn a lot of things when they leave the nest. obviously they don't think much of their religion if they think it can't withstand outside influences. i'm just not sure how keeping kids ignorant is good parenting.

Which is why you want to homeschool them, so they actually learn. You do know, don't you, that homeschooled kids by and large outperform their government schooled peers by large margins?

my public school taught son can outthink pretty much any person who is homeschooled and thinks the world is 5,000 years old.

Really? What accelerated programs did he excel in? You do know, don't you, that homeschooled kids are often ready for college 1 to 2 years before government schooled ones? It's hard to argue with success.

Ready for college, true, but often, never had a date, never will have a date.

 

[hadit]

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"And she says the lack of regulation in Nebraska, where the family lived, “allowed us to get away with some really shoddy homeschooling for a lot of years.”

“I’ll admit it,” she confesses. “Because I was so overwhelmed with my life… It was a real struggle to do the basics, so it didn’t take long for my kids to fall far behind. One of my daughters could not read at 11 years old.”

Why did she stick with homeschooling for so long, despite her difficulties? “We were convinced that it would be better for our kids not to have an education than to be educated to become humanists or atheists and to reject God,” Garrison says. “We became so isolated because the Quiverfull lifestyle was so overwhelming we didn’t have time or energy for socialization. So the only people we knew were exactly like us. We were told that the whole point of public school was to dumb down the children and turn them into compliant workers – to brainwash them and indoctrinate them into this godless way of thinking.”"

rest at link

the only reason most people homeschool is they're afraid their children will meet other people who don't think like them or actually learn science instead of the bible.

Article actually mentions the homeschooling is popular among evangelicals who 'fear their chidlren will grow up to become humanists and atheists.' Stands out to me as amusing since I identify with humanism and atheism.

that is funny. kids learn a lot of things when they leave the nest. obviously they don't think much of their religion if they think it can't withstand outside influences. i'm just not sure how keeping kids ignorant is good parenting.

Which is why you want to homeschool them, so they actually learn. You do know, don't you, that homeschooled kids by and large outperform their government schooled peers by large margins?

Secular ones do. Probably not these evangelical ones.

Better find some stats on that one. There will always be some who don't value education or fear it, but not so many today.

 

[boedicca]

Barely Literate How Christian Fundamentalist Homeschooling Hurts Kids Alternet

"And she says the lack of regulation in Nebraska, where the family lived, “allowed us to get away with some really shoddy homeschooling for a lot of years.”

“I’ll admit it,” she confesses. “Because I was so overwhelmed with my life… It was a real struggle to do the basics, so it didn’t take long for my kids to fall far behind. One of my daughters could not read at 11 years old.”

Why did she stick with homeschooling for so long, despite her difficulties? “We were convinced that it would be better for our kids not to have an education than to be educated to become humanists or atheists and to reject God,” Garrison says. “We became so isolated because the Quiverfull lifestyle was so overwhelming we didn’t have time or energy for socialization. So the only people we knew were exactly like us. We were told that the whole point of public school was to dumb down the children and turn them into compliant workers – to brainwash them and indoctrinate them into this godless way of thinking.”"

rest at link

the only reason most people homeschool is they're afraid their children will meet other people who don't think like them or actually learn science instead of the bible.

I call blind stupidity on that one.

You forget things like autism and ADD, which make it difficult, if not impossible for a kid to learn in an environment where it's more important he/she learns to sit down and shut up than to be educated.

A friend of mine is a school psychologist in a wealthy district in Silicon Valley. She has horror stories about disabled and austic kids disrupting class rooms. Their parents threaten to sue if they aren't "mainstreamed", so the pathetic school administration allows it. One boy actually sat in class and masturbated. I doubt the kids learned much else during that year. If I had children in that district, they'd be in private schools, or taught at home.

 

[hadit]

Article actually mentions the homeschooling is popular among evangelicals who 'fear their chidlren will grow up to become humanists and atheists.' Stands out to me as amusing since I identify with humanism and atheism.

that is funny. kids learn a lot of things when they leave the nest. obviously they don't think much of their religion if they think it can't withstand outside influences. i'm just not sure how keeping kids ignorant is good parenting.

Which is why you want to homeschool them, so they actually learn. You do know, don't you, that homeschooled kids by and large outperform their government schooled peers by large margins?

my public school taught son can outthink pretty much any person who is homeschooled and thinks the world is 5,000 years old.

Really? What accelerated programs did he excel in? You do know, don't you, that homeschooled kids are often ready for college 1 to 2 years before government schooled ones? It's hard to argue with success.

Ready for college, true, but often, never had a date, never will have a date.

Oh, brother, the ignorance is strong.

 

[jillian]

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"And she says the lack of regulation in Nebraska, where the family lived, “allowed us to get away with some really shoddy homeschooling for a lot of years.”

“I’ll admit it,” she confesses. “Because I was so overwhelmed with my life… It was a real struggle to do the basics, so it didn’t take long for my kids to fall far behind. One of my daughters could not read at 11 years old.”

Why did she stick with homeschooling for so long, despite her difficulties? “We were convinced that it would be better for our kids not to have an education than to be educated to become humanists or atheists and to reject God,” Garrison says. “We became so isolated because the Quiverfull lifestyle was so overwhelming we didn’t have time or energy for socialization. So the only people we knew were exactly like us. We were told that the whole point of public school was to dumb down the children and turn them into compliant workers – to brainwash them and indoctrinate them into this godless way of thinking.”"

rest at link

the only reason most people homeschool is they're afraid their children will meet other people who don't think like them or actually learn science instead of the bible.

Article actually mentions the homeschooling is popular among evangelicals who 'fear their chidlren will grow up to become humanists and atheists.' Stands out to me as amusing since I identify with humanism and atheism.

that is funny. kids learn a lot of things when they leave the nest. obviously they don't think much of their religion if they think it can't withstand outside influences. i'm just not sure how keeping kids ignorant is good parenting.

Which is why you want to homeschool them, so they actually learn. You do know, don't you, that homeschooled kids by and large outperform their government schooled peers by large margins?

i'm going to guess you have no kids. kids learn in public school. parents just have to be aware of what their kids are doing and learning and communicate with teachers.

teachers can't teach kids if there isn't support at home.

 

[jillian]

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"And she says the lack of regulation in Nebraska, where the family lived, “allowed us to get away with some really shoddy homeschooling for a lot of years.”

“I’ll admit it,” she confesses. “Because I was so overwhelmed with my life… It was a real struggle to do the basics, so it didn’t take long for my kids to fall far behind. One of my daughters could not read at 11 years old.”

Why did she stick with homeschooling for so long, despite her difficulties? “We were convinced that it would be better for our kids not to have an education than to be educated to become humanists or atheists and to reject God,” Garrison says. “We became so isolated because the Quiverfull lifestyle was so overwhelming we didn’t have time or energy for socialization. So the only people we knew were exactly like us. We were told that the whole point of public school was to dumb down the children and turn them into compliant workers – to brainwash them and indoctrinate them into this godless way of thinking.”"

rest at link

the only reason most people homeschool is they're afraid their children will meet other people who don't think like them or actually learn science instead of the bible.

I call blind stupidity on that one.

You forget things like autism and ADD, which make it difficult, if not impossible for a kid to learn in an environment where it's more important he/she learns to sit down and shut up than to be educated.

A friend of mine is a school psychologist in a wealthy district in Silicon Valley. She has horror stories about disabled and austic kids disrupting class rooms. Their parents threaten to sue if they aren't "mainstreamed", so the pathetic school administration allows it. One boy actually sat in class and masturbated. I doubt the kids learned much else during that year. If I had children in that district, they'd be in private schools, or taught at home.

there are some classes where kids are mainstreamed but not the kids who are disruptive.

thanks for the "story".

 

[boedicca]

Article actually mentions the homeschooling is popular among evangelicals who 'fear their chidlren will grow up to become humanists and atheists.' Stands out to me as amusing since I identify with humanism and atheism.

that is funny. kids learn a lot of things when they leave the nest. obviously they don't think much of their religion if they think it can't withstand outside influences. i'm just not sure how keeping kids ignorant is good parenting.

Which is why you want to homeschool them, so they actually learn. You do know, don't you, that homeschooled kids by and large outperform their government schooled peers by large margins?

my public school taught son can outthink pretty much any person who is homeschooled and thinks the world is 5,000 years old.

Really? What accelerated programs did he excel in? You do know, don't you, that homeschooled kids are often ready for college 1 to 2 years before government schooled ones? It's hard to argue with success.

Ready for college, true, but often, never had a date, never will have a date.

That is completely bogus. There are home school groups which arrange activities so that kids are socialized. It is also not UNHEARD of to meet people at church activities.

The entire world is not made up of Public School.