On this 4th of July....Don't forget to thank a liberal

[bendog]

The label "Democrat" or "Republican" are political labels, and in our history have been used for both liberal and conservative political parties. The words liberal and conservative, however, designate a political ideology and are not interchangeable, This can be very confusing to students taking an American history course for the first time.
College book stores sell booklets explaining the difference and definitions of the various political ideologies. What evidence is offered that the founders were liberal?

I don't think that's any more true than the OP ascribing to the Founders a society that offers the same rights to rich and poor alike, which the Founders expressly did NOT do.

The Founders were universally liberal in terms of believing every white male free person should be allowed to act legally in self-interest to achieve the best economic and social outcome he could. They also explicitly said slavery was ok.

Liberal and conservative are just labels people put on something to denote their personal approval or disapproval. For example, a less progressive income tax with fewer exemptions could result in the very rich paying a higher % of income in taxes than they do now, but some would call that "conservative" to imply it isn't as fair.

 

[Redfish]

Washington and Jefferson were slave owners. By your definition, they were evil and must be removed from history. BTW, they were not even close to today's liberals.

They were a product of their times and the greatest liberals of their day

That is a huge lie. By today's standards they were far right conservatives.

BTW, can you post some pics of the whitehouse lit up in red, white, and blue on independence day?

Far right conservatives in 1776 supported the King

Liberals used to tar and feather them

your view of american history obviously is the product of common core teaching. You know NOTHING about the founders, the revolution, or the purposes of our constitution.

you want a far left dictator who determines what everyone can make, what you can eat, and where you can shit.

Youtr knowledge of history is the revisionist history of Conservatives. The same history that celebrates Joe McCarthy, claims Pilgrimswere Capitalists and Paul Revere rode to warn the British not to take our guns

do you have a medical condition that prevents your brain from absorbing facts, or is it simply that defective liberal gene acting up again?

the founders of this nation FOUNDED it to get away from oppressive "liberal' government (liberal as understood today). They came from nations where royal families and their favored dukes and earls ruled everyone else.

What you libtards are asking for today is exactly the same thing, A nation run by a very small group of super elites who control every aspect of the lives of everyone else----------that is how socialism works-----------a tiny minority controlling a huge majority through intimidation and false punishment, including punishment for non-compliant thoughts.

in short--------you are too stupid to realize what you are asking for.

 

[Redfish]

Washington and Jefferson were slave owners. By your definition, they were evil and must be removed from history. BTW, they were not even close to today's liberals.

They were a product of their times and the greatest liberals of their day

That is a huge lie. By today's standards they were far right conservatives.

BTW, can you post some pics of the whitehouse lit up in red, white, and blue on independence day?

Far right conservatives in 1776 supported the King

Liberals used to tar and feather them

your view of american history obviously is the product of common core teaching. You know NOTHING about the founders, the revolution, or the purposes of our constitution.

you want a far left dictator who determines what everyone can make, what you can eat, and where you can shit.

Youtr knowledge of history is the revisionist history of Conservatives. The same history that celebrates Joe McCarthy, claims Pilgrimswere Capitalists and Paul Revere rode to warn the British not to take our guns

still waiting for you to post a pic of the whitehouse lit up in red, white, and blue. Do you have one? If not, just say so and admit that the gay marriage ruling was more important to obozo than the 4th of July.

 

[Redfish]

Imagine a world where a certain class was born to rule over those who were born to lower classes
Your position in society was based on your birth, not what you accomplish after your birth

The liberals of the day stood up and declared.......All men are created equal

They created a country where the lowest farm hand had the same vote as the richest land owner

Thank a liberal





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You are incorrect. White land owning men could vote.
Center for Voting and Democracy

that injustice was corrected. by congress, both parties, liberals and conservatives.

Until you drones get off the partisan bullshit, this country will continue to flounder.

Christ Fish, I was merely pointing out that the OP is based on a false notion of what the Founders stood for. Yes, the franchise was extended to non-landowning white males, to blacks and other people of color and to women.

And ps, you wouldn't know a liberal if one poked you in the azz.

poked in the azz? Freudian slip? your hidden desire?

for the record, I know exactly who and what liberals are, and the founders were not liberals.

No dick, but a poke in the azz might clear out your brain. You called me a lib for noting the founders were not libs. JFC. Do the world a favor, go drown in a hurricane.

my mistake, I thought I was responding to RW. Mea culpa.

 

[rightwinger]

They were a product of their times and the greatest liberals of their day

That is a huge lie. By today's standards they were far right conservatives.

BTW, can you post some pics of the whitehouse lit up in red, white, and blue on independence day?

Far right conservatives in 1776 supported the King

Liberals used to tar and feather them

your view of american history obviously is the product of common core teaching. You know NOTHING about the founders, the revolution, or the purposes of our constitution.

you want a far left dictator who determines what everyone can make, what you can eat, and where you can shit.

Youtr knowledge of history is the revisionist history of Conservatives. The same history that celebrates Joe McCarthy, claims Pilgrimswere Capitalists and Paul Revere rode to warn the British not to take our guns

do you have a medical condition that prevents your brain from absorbing facts, or is it simply that defective liberal gene acting up again?

the founders of this nation FOUNDED it to get away from oppressive "liberal' government (liberal as understood today). They came from nations where royal families and their favored dukes and earls ruled everyone else.

What you libtards are asking for today is exactly the same thing, A nation run by a very small group of super elites who control every aspect of the lives of everyone else----------that is how socialism works-----------a tiny minority controlling a huge majority through intimidation and false punishment, including punishment for non-compliant thoughts.

in short--------you are too stupid to realize what you are asking for.

What are you babbling about?

They fought the established government of royalty rules on the basis of birthright.......THAT was conservative

LIBERALS believed all men are created equal regardless of being royal or not. That was groundbreaking liberalism for its time

 

[rightwinger]

They were a product of their times and the greatest liberals of their day

That is a huge lie. By today's standards they were far right conservatives.

BTW, can you post some pics of the whitehouse lit up in red, white, and blue on independence day?

Far right conservatives in 1776 supported the King

Liberals used to tar and feather them

your view of american history obviously is the product of common core teaching. You know NOTHING about the founders, the revolution, or the purposes of our constitution.

you want a far left dictator who determines what everyone can make, what you can eat, and where you can shit.

Youtr knowledge of history is the revisionist history of Conservatives. The same history that celebrates Joe McCarthy, claims Pilgrimswere Capitalists and Paul Revere rode to warn the British not to take our guns

still waiting for you to post a pic of the whitehouse lit up in red, white, and blue. Do you have one? If not, just say so and admit that the gay marriage ruling was more important to obozo than the 4th of July.

The gay marriage decision was Historic.

Can you provide pictures of the White House being lit in red white and blue for the last 200 years? If Obama had broken that tradition, you might have a point

 

[DigitalDrifter]

By the way, I meant to wish American moderates and conservatives a happy 4th of July !!

 

[Redfish]

That is a huge lie. By today's standards they were far right conservatives.

BTW, can you post some pics of the whitehouse lit up in red, white, and blue on independence day?

Far right conservatives in 1776 supported the King

Liberals used to tar and feather them

your view of american history obviously is the product of common core teaching. You know NOTHING about the founders, the revolution, or the purposes of our constitution.

you want a far left dictator who determines what everyone can make, what you can eat, and where you can shit.

Youtr knowledge of history is the revisionist history of Conservatives. The same history that celebrates Joe McCarthy, claims Pilgrimswere Capitalists and Paul Revere rode to warn the British not to take our guns

do you have a medical condition that prevents your brain from absorbing facts, or is it simply that defective liberal gene acting up again?

the founders of this nation FOUNDED it to get away from oppressive "liberal' government (liberal as understood today). They came from nations where royal families and their favored dukes and earls ruled everyone else.

What you libtards are asking for today is exactly the same thing, A nation run by a very small group of super elites who control every aspect of the lives of everyone else----------that is how socialism works-----------a tiny minority controlling a huge majority through intimidation and false punishment, including punishment for non-compliant thoughts.

in short--------you are too stupid to realize what you are asking for.

What are you babbling about?

They fought the established government of royalty rules on the basis of birthright.......THAT was conservative

LIBERALS believed all men are created equal regardless of being royal or not. That was groundbreaking liberalism for its time

The constitution was signed by both liberals and conservatives (by today's definitions). Trying to justify the foolish liberalism of today using the founders is simply idiotic.

The society of 1776 had very different views on many issues that the society of 2015. They believed that their views were correct in both a religious and secular context. We today disagree with some of their beliefs.

thats the thing about history, its history, its not today.

 

[Redfish]

That is a huge lie. By today's standards they were far right conservatives.

BTW, can you post some pics of the whitehouse lit up in red, white, and blue on independence day?

Far right conservatives in 1776 supported the King

Liberals used to tar and feather them

your view of american history obviously is the product of common core teaching. You know NOTHING about the founders, the revolution, or the purposes of our constitution.

you want a far left dictator who determines what everyone can make, what you can eat, and where you can shit.

Youtr knowledge of history is the revisionist history of Conservatives. The same history that celebrates Joe McCarthy, claims Pilgrimswere Capitalists and Paul Revere rode to warn the British not to take our guns

still waiting for you to post a pic of the whitehouse lit up in red, white, and blue. Do you have one? If not, just say so and admit that the gay marriage ruling was more important to obozo than the 4th of July.

The gay marriage decision was Historic.

Can you provide pictures of the White House being lit in red white and blue for the last 200 years? If Obama had broken that tradition, you might have a point

he did break tradition with the rainbow colors, no other president has ever done anything like that.

BTW, he and the hildebeast were both against gay marriage before they were for it. Do you think their change of belief was politically motivated? If you say no, you are truly an idiot.

 

[Redfish]

That is a huge lie. By today's standards they were far right conservatives.

BTW, can you post some pics of the whitehouse lit up in red, white, and blue on independence day?

Far right conservatives in 1776 supported the King

Liberals used to tar and feather them

your view of american history obviously is the product of common core teaching. You know NOTHING about the founders, the revolution, or the purposes of our constitution.

you want a far left dictator who determines what everyone can make, what you can eat, and where you can shit.

Youtr knowledge of history is the revisionist history of Conservatives. The same history that celebrates Joe McCarthy, claims Pilgrimswere Capitalists and Paul Revere rode to warn the British not to take our guns

still waiting for you to post a pic of the whitehouse lit up in red, white, and blue. Do you have one? If not, just say so and admit that the gay marriage ruling was more important to obozo than the 4th of July.

The gay marriage decision was Historic.

Can you provide pictures of the White House being lit in red white and blue for the last 200 years? If Obama had broken that tradition, you might have a point

yes it was historic, everything that happens is historic. Pearl harbor was historic as was prohibition.

If you mean it was wonderful, use that word.

 

[Auld Phart]

That is a huge lie. By today's standards they were far right conservatives.

BTW, can you post some pics of the whitehouse lit up in red, white, and blue on independence day?

Far right conservatives in 1776 supported the King

Liberals used to tar and feather them

your view of american history obviously is the product of common core teaching. You know NOTHING about the founders, the revolution, or the purposes of our constitution.

you want a far left dictator who determines what everyone can make, what you can eat, and where you can shit.

Youtr knowledge of history is the revisionist history of Conservatives. The same history that celebrates Joe McCarthy, claims Pilgrimswere Capitalists and Paul Revere rode to warn the British not to take our guns

do you have a medical condition that prevents your brain from absorbing facts, or is it simply that defective liberal gene acting up again?

the founders of this nation FOUNDED it to get away from oppressive "liberal' government (liberal as understood today). They came from nations where royal families and their favored dukes and earls ruled everyone else.

What you libtards are asking for today is exactly the same thing, A nation run by a very small group of super elites who control every aspect of the lives of everyone else----------that is how socialism works-----------a tiny minority controlling a huge majority through intimidation and false punishment, including punishment for non-compliant thoughts.

in short--------you are too stupid to realize what you are asking for.

What are you babbling about?

They fought the established government of royalty rules on the basis of birthright.......THAT was conservative

LIBERALS believed all men are created equal regardless of being royal or not. That was groundbreaking liberalism for its time

That is a huge lie. By today's standards they were far right conservatives.

BTW, can you post some pics of the whitehouse lit up in red, white, and blue on independence day?

Far right conservatives in 1776 supported the King

Liberals used to tar and feather them

your view of american history obviously is the product of common core teaching. You know NOTHING about the founders, the revolution, or the purposes of our constitution.

you want a far left dictator who determines what everyone can make, what you can eat, and where you can shit.

Youtr knowledge of history is the revisionist history of Conservatives. The same history that celebrates Joe McCarthy, claims Pilgrimswere Capitalists and Paul Revere rode to warn the British not to take our guns

do you have a medical condition that prevents your brain from absorbing facts, or is it simply that defective liberal gene acting up again?

the founders of this nation FOUNDED it to get away from oppressive "liberal' government (liberal as understood today). They came from nations where royal families and their favored dukes and earls ruled everyone else.

What you libtards are asking for today is exactly the same thing, A nation run by a very small group of super elites who control every aspect of the lives of everyone else----------that is how socialism works-----------a tiny minority controlling a huge majority through intimidation and false punishment, including punishment for non-compliant thoughts.

in short--------you are too stupid to realize what you are asking for.

What are you babbling about?

They fought the established government of royalty rules on the basis of birthright.......THAT was conservative

LIBERALS believed all men are created equal regardless of being royal or not. That was groundbreaking liberalism for its time

Yes, they believed al men are created equal.

as long as they were white, and owned land.

and they somehow forgot to include women.

Your 'liberal' FF were not only racist, they were sexist.

 

[Redfish]

That is a huge lie. By today's standards they were far right conservatives.

BTW, can you post some pics of the whitehouse lit up in red, white, and blue on independence day?

Far right conservatives in 1776 supported the King

Liberals used to tar and feather them

your view of american history obviously is the product of common core teaching. You know NOTHING about the founders, the revolution, or the purposes of our constitution.

you want a far left dictator who determines what everyone can make, what you can eat, and where you can shit.

Youtr knowledge of history is the revisionist history of Conservatives. The same history that celebrates Joe McCarthy, claims Pilgrimswere Capitalists and Paul Revere rode to warn the British not to take our guns

do you have a medical condition that prevents your brain from absorbing facts, or is it simply that defective liberal gene acting up again?

the founders of this nation FOUNDED it to get away from oppressive "liberal' government (liberal as understood today). They came from nations where royal families and their favored dukes and earls ruled everyone else.

What you libtards are asking for today is exactly the same thing, A nation run by a very small group of super elites who control every aspect of the lives of everyone else----------that is how socialism works-----------a tiny minority controlling a huge majority through intimidation and false punishment, including punishment for non-compliant thoughts.

in short--------you are too stupid to realize what you are asking for.

What are you babbling about?

They fought the established government of royalty rules on the basis of birthright.......THAT was conservative

LIBERALS believed all men are created equal regardless of being royal or not. That was groundbreaking liberalism for its time

Speaking of birthright. Did Chelsea Clinton EARN her multi million dollar job on the clinton foundation, or did she get it by birthright?

you libs are so fucked up, you shit in your hat and then ask why your hair smells.

 

[Redfish]

Far right conservatives in 1776 supported the King

Liberals used to tar and feather them

your view of american history obviously is the product of common core teaching. You know NOTHING about the founders, the revolution, or the purposes of our constitution.

you want a far left dictator who determines what everyone can make, what you can eat, and where you can shit.

Youtr knowledge of history is the revisionist history of Conservatives. The same history that celebrates Joe McCarthy, claims Pilgrimswere Capitalists and Paul Revere rode to warn the British not to take our guns

do you have a medical condition that prevents your brain from absorbing facts, or is it simply that defective liberal gene acting up again?

the founders of this nation FOUNDED it to get away from oppressive "liberal' government (liberal as understood today). They came from nations where royal families and their favored dukes and earls ruled everyone else.

What you libtards are asking for today is exactly the same thing, A nation run by a very small group of super elites who control every aspect of the lives of everyone else----------that is how socialism works-----------a tiny minority controlling a huge majority through intimidation and false punishment, including punishment for non-compliant thoughts.

in short--------you are too stupid to realize what you are asking for.

What are you babbling about?

They fought the established government of royalty rules on the basis of birthright.......THAT was conservative

LIBERALS believed all men are created equal regardless of being royal or not. That was groundbreaking liberalism for its time

Far right conservatives in 1776 supported the King

Liberals used to tar and feather them

your view of american history obviously is the product of common core teaching. You know NOTHING about the founders, the revolution, or the purposes of our constitution.

you want a far left dictator who determines what everyone can make, what you can eat, and where you can shit.

Youtr knowledge of history is the revisionist history of Conservatives. The same history that celebrates Joe McCarthy, claims Pilgrimswere Capitalists and Paul Revere rode to warn the British not to take our guns

do you have a medical condition that prevents your brain from absorbing facts, or is it simply that defective liberal gene acting up again?

the founders of this nation FOUNDED it to get away from oppressive "liberal' government (liberal as understood today). They came from nations where royal families and their favored dukes and earls ruled everyone else.

What you libtards are asking for today is exactly the same thing, A nation run by a very small group of super elites who control every aspect of the lives of everyone else----------that is how socialism works-----------a tiny minority controlling a huge majority through intimidation and false punishment, including punishment for non-compliant thoughts.

in short--------you are too stupid to realize what you are asking for.

What are you babbling about?

They fought the established government of royalty rules on the basis of birthright.......THAT was conservative

LIBERALS believed all men are created equal regardless of being royal or not. That was groundbreaking liberalism for its time

Yes, they believed al men are created equal.

as long as they were white, and owned land.

and they somehow forgot to include women.

Your 'liberal' FF were not only racist, they were sexist.

their beliefs were in compliance with the beliefs of society at that time. When we try to apply today's standards to historical figures, it never makes sense.

 

[Auld Phart]

your view of american history obviously is the product of common core teaching. You know NOTHING about the founders, the revolution, or the purposes of our constitution.

you want a far left dictator who determines what everyone can make, what you can eat, and where you can shit.

Youtr knowledge of history is the revisionist history of Conservatives. The same history that celebrates Joe McCarthy, claims Pilgrimswere Capitalists and Paul Revere rode to warn the British not to take our guns

do you have a medical condition that prevents your brain from absorbing facts, or is it simply that defective liberal gene acting up again?

the founders of this nation FOUNDED it to get away from oppressive "liberal' government (liberal as understood today). They came from nations where royal families and their favored dukes and earls ruled everyone else.

What you libtards are asking for today is exactly the same thing, A nation run by a very small group of super elites who control every aspect of the lives of everyone else----------that is how socialism works-----------a tiny minority controlling a huge majority through intimidation and false punishment, including punishment for non-compliant thoughts.

in short--------you are too stupid to realize what you are asking for.

What are you babbling about?

They fought the established government of royalty rules on the basis of birthright.......THAT was conservative

LIBERALS believed all men are created equal regardless of being royal or not. That was groundbreaking liberalism for its time

your view of american history obviously is the product of common core teaching. You know NOTHING about the founders, the revolution, or the purposes of our constitution.

you want a far left dictator who determines what everyone can make, what you can eat, and where you can shit.

Youtr knowledge of history is the revisionist history of Conservatives. The same history that celebrates Joe McCarthy, claims Pilgrimswere Capitalists and Paul Revere rode to warn the British not to take our guns

do you have a medical condition that prevents your brain from absorbing facts, or is it simply that defective liberal gene acting up again?

the founders of this nation FOUNDED it to get away from oppressive "liberal' government (liberal as understood today). They came from nations where royal families and their favored dukes and earls ruled everyone else.

What you libtards are asking for today is exactly the same thing, A nation run by a very small group of super elites who control every aspect of the lives of everyone else----------that is how socialism works-----------a tiny minority controlling a huge majority through intimidation and false punishment, including punishment for non-compliant thoughts.

in short--------you are too stupid to realize what you are asking for.

What are you babbling about?

They fought the established government of royalty rules on the basis of birthright.......THAT was conservative

LIBERALS believed all men are created equal regardless of being royal or not. That was groundbreaking liberalism for its time

Yes, they believed al men are created equal.

as long as they were white, and owned land.

and they somehow forgot to include women.

Your 'liberal' FF were not only racist, they were sexist.

their beliefs were in compliance with the beliefs of society at that time. When we try to apply today's standards to historical figures, it never makes sense.

Today, those racist and sexist 'liberals' would be called hard right wingers. (by idiots)

 

[Redfish]

Youtr knowledge of history is the revisionist history of Conservatives. The same history that celebrates Joe McCarthy, claims Pilgrimswere Capitalists and Paul Revere rode to warn the British not to take our guns

do you have a medical condition that prevents your brain from absorbing facts, or is it simply that defective liberal gene acting up again?

the founders of this nation FOUNDED it to get away from oppressive "liberal' government (liberal as understood today). They came from nations where royal families and their favored dukes and earls ruled everyone else.

What you libtards are asking for today is exactly the same thing, A nation run by a very small group of super elites who control every aspect of the lives of everyone else----------that is how socialism works-----------a tiny minority controlling a huge majority through intimidation and false punishment, including punishment for non-compliant thoughts.

in short--------you are too stupid to realize what you are asking for.

What are you babbling about?

They fought the established government of royalty rules on the basis of birthright.......THAT was conservative

LIBERALS believed all men are created equal regardless of being royal or not. That was groundbreaking liberalism for its time

Youtr knowledge of history is the revisionist history of Conservatives. The same history that celebrates Joe McCarthy, claims Pilgrimswere Capitalists and Paul Revere rode to warn the British not to take our guns

do you have a medical condition that prevents your brain from absorbing facts, or is it simply that defective liberal gene acting up again?

the founders of this nation FOUNDED it to get away from oppressive "liberal' government (liberal as understood today). They came from nations where royal families and their favored dukes and earls ruled everyone else.

What you libtards are asking for today is exactly the same thing, A nation run by a very small group of super elites who control every aspect of the lives of everyone else----------that is how socialism works-----------a tiny minority controlling a huge majority through intimidation and false punishment, including punishment for non-compliant thoughts.

in short--------you are too stupid to realize what you are asking for.

What are you babbling about?

They fought the established government of royalty rules on the basis of birthright.......THAT was conservative

LIBERALS believed all men are created equal regardless of being royal or not. That was groundbreaking liberalism for its time

Yes, they believed al men are created equal.

as long as they were white, and owned land.

and they somehow forgot to include women.

Your 'liberal' FF were not only racist, they were sexist.

their beliefs were in compliance with the beliefs of society at that time. When we try to apply today's standards to historical figures, it never makes sense.

Today, those racist and sexist 'liberals' would be called hard right wingers. (by idiots)

and the liberals of today would have been confined to mental institutions or jails.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Washington and Jefferson were slave owners. By your definition, they were evil and must be removed from history. BTW, they were not even close to today's liberals.

They were a product of their times and the greatest liberals of their day

That is a huge lie. By today's standards they were far right conservatives.

BTW, can you post some pics of the whitehouse lit up in red, white, and blue on independence day?

Far right conservatives in 1776 supported the King

Liberals used to tar and feather them

your view of american history obviously i the product of common core teaching. You know NOTHING about the founders, the revolution, or the purposes of our constitution.

you want a far left dictator who determines what everyone can make, what you can eat, and where you can shit.

Youtr knowledge of history is the revisionist history of Conservatives. The same history that celebrates Joe McCarthy, claims Pilgrimswere Capitalists and Paul Revere rode to warn the British not to take our guns

Uhm, McCarthy WAS right... as to Pilgrims being capitalists and the stupid Paul Revere thing... I don't recall anybody claiming that.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

do you have a medical condition that prevents your brain from absorbing facts, or is it simply that defective liberal gene acting up again?

the founders of this nation FOUNDED it to get away from oppressive "liberal' government (liberal as understood today). They came from nations where royal families and their favored dukes and earls ruled everyone else.

What you libtards are asking for today is exactly the same thing, A nation run by a very small group of super elites who control every aspect of the lives of everyone else----------that is how socialism works-----------a tiny minority controlling a huge majority through intimidation and false punishment, including punishment for non-compliant thoughts.

in short--------you are too stupid to realize what you are asking for.

What are you babbling about?

They fought the established government of royalty rules on the basis of birthright.......THAT was conservative

LIBERALS believed all men are created equal regardless of being royal or not. That was groundbreaking liberalism for its time

do you have a medical condition that prevents your brain from absorbing facts, or is it simply that defective liberal gene acting up again?

the founders of this nation FOUNDED it to get away from oppressive "liberal' government (liberal as understood today). They came from nations where royal families and their favored dukes and earls ruled everyone else.

What you libtards are asking for today is exactly the same thing, A nation run by a very small group of super elites who control every aspect of the lives of everyone else----------that is how socialism works-----------a tiny minority controlling a huge majority through intimidation and false punishment, including punishment for non-compliant thoughts.

in short--------you are too stupid to realize what you are asking for.

What are you babbling about?

They fought the established government of royalty rules on the basis of birthright.......THAT was conservative

LIBERALS believed all men are created equal regardless of being royal or not. That was groundbreaking liberalism for its time

Yes, they believed al men are created equal.

as long as they were white, and owned land.

and they somehow forgot to include women.

Your 'liberal' FF were not only racist, they were sexist.

their beliefs were in compliance with the beliefs of society at that time. When we try to apply today's standards to historical figures, it never makes sense.

Today, those racist and sexist 'liberals' would be called hard right wingers. (by idiots)

and the liberals of today would have been confined to mental institutions or jails.

I'm convinced most here are confined to a rubber room, in straight jackets typing with their noses.

 

[regent]

Far right conservatives in 1776 supported the King

Liberals used to tar and feather them

your view of american history obviously is the product of common core teaching. You know NOTHING about the founders, the revolution, or the purposes of our constitution.

you want a far left dictator who determines what everyone can make, what you can eat, and where you can shit.

Youtr knowledge of history is the revisionist history of Conservatives. The same history that celebrates Joe McCarthy, claims Pilgrimswere Capitalists and Paul Revere rode to warn the British not to take our guns

do you have a medical condition that prevents your brain from absorbing facts, or is it simply that defective liberal gene acting up again?

the founders of this nation FOUNDED it to get away from oppressive "liberal' government (liberal as understood today). They came from nations where royal families and their favored dukes and earls ruled everyone else.

What you libtards are asking for today is exactly the same thing, A nation run by a very small group of super elites who control every aspect of the lives of everyone else----------that is how socialism works-----------a tiny minority controlling a huge majority through intimidation and false punishment, including punishment for non-compliant thoughts.

in short--------you are too stupid to realize what you are asking for.

What are you babbling about?

They fought the established government of royalty rules on the basis of birthright.......THAT was conservative

LIBERALS believed all men are created equal regardless of being royal or not. That was groundbreaking liberalism for its time

Far right conservatives in 1776 supported the King

Liberals used to tar and feather them

your view of american history obviously is the product of common core teaching. You know NOTHING about the founders, the revolution, or the purposes of our constitution.

you want a far left dictator who determines what everyone can make, what you can eat, and where you can shit.

Youtr knowledge of history is the revisionist history of Conservatives. The same history that celebrates Joe McCarthy, claims Pilgrimswere Capitalists and Paul Revere rode to warn the British not to take our guns

do you have a medical condition that prevents your brain from absorbing facts, or is it simply that defective liberal gene acting up again?

the founders of this nation FOUNDED it to get away from oppressive "liberal' government (liberal as understood today). They came from nations where royal families and their favored dukes and earls ruled everyone else.

What you libtards are asking for today is exactly the same thing, A nation run by a very small group of super elites who control every aspect of the lives of everyone else----------that is how socialism works-----------a tiny minority controlling a huge majority through intimidation and false punishment, including punishment for non-compliant thoughts.

in short--------you are too stupid to realize what you are asking for.

What are you babbling about?

They fought the established government of royalty rules on the basis of birthright.......THAT was conservative

LIBERALS believed all men are created equal regardless of being royal or not. That was groundbreaking liberalism for its time

Yes, they believed al men are created equal.

as long as they were white, and owned land.

and they somehow forgot to include women.

Your 'liberal' FF were not only racist, they were sexist.

What will they be saying about our generation 250 years from now?
1, We deprived our children of a good education by allowing states to be in charge.
2. People went without proper medical care.
3, America did not have jobs for all that wanted to work.
4. It took bundles of money to run for political office.
5. A court of nine people decided what was Constitutional.
6. At one time conservatives were treated just like people.

 

[rightwinger]

Far right conservatives in 1776 supported the King

Liberals used to tar and feather them

your view of american history obviously is the product of common core teaching. You know NOTHING about the founders, the revolution, or the purposes of our constitution.

you want a far left dictator who determines what everyone can make, what you can eat, and where you can shit.

Youtr knowledge of history is the revisionist history of Conservatives. The same history that celebrates Joe McCarthy, claims Pilgrimswere Capitalists and Paul Revere rode to warn the British not to take our guns

still waiting for you to post a pic of the whitehouse lit up in red, white, and blue. Do you have one? If not, just say so and admit that the gay marriage ruling was more important to obozo than the 4th of July.

The gay marriage decision was Historic.

Can you provide pictures of the White House being lit in red white and blue for the last 200 years? If Obama had broken that tradition, you might have a point

he did break tradition with the rainbow colors, no other president has ever done anything like that.

BTW, he and the hildebeast were both against gay marriage before they were for it. Do you think their change of belief was politically motivated? If you say no, you are truly an idiot.

Our country's position on gay marriage evolved tremendously over the last ten years. Ten years ago, Civil unions seemed like a viable option

Only conservatives remain on the wrong side of history....just like in the American Revolution

 

[rightwinger]

Far right conservatives in 1776 supported the King

Liberals used to tar and feather them

your view of american history obviously is the product of common core teaching. You know NOTHING about the founders, the revolution, or the purposes of our constitution.

you want a far left dictator who determines what everyone can make, what you can eat, and where you can shit.

Youtr knowledge of history is the revisionist history of Conservatives. The same history that celebrates Joe McCarthy, claims Pilgrimswere Capitalists and Paul Revere rode to warn the British not to take our guns

do you have a medical condition that prevents your brain from absorbing facts, or is it simply that defective liberal gene acting up again?

the founders of this nation FOUNDED it to get away from oppressive "liberal' government (liberal as understood today). They came from nations where royal families and their favored dukes and earls ruled everyone else.

What you libtards are asking for today is exactly the same thing, A nation run by a very small group of super elites who control every aspect of the lives of everyone else----------that is how socialism works-----------a tiny minority controlling a huge majority through intimidation and false punishment, including punishment for non-compliant thoughts.

in short--------you are too stupid to realize what you are asking for.

What are you babbling about?

They fought the established government of royalty rules on the basis of birthright.......THAT was conservative

LIBERALS believed all men are created equal regardless of being royal or not. That was groundbreaking liberalism for its time

Speaking of birthright. Did Chelsea Clinton EARN her multi million dollar job on the clinton foundation, or did she get it by birthright?

you libs are so fucked up, you shit in your hat and then ask why your hair smells.

Which political office has Chelsea been appointed to?

Who do you think she is? A Bush?