Official USMB What is a Wall? Why a Wall?

[Redfish]

Trump's wall (the "monument" that he wants to build strictly for his own search for glory) will NEVER be built......PERIOD........the 2018 election confirmed this.

So, the ONLY way to stop this madness of a government shutdown, is for sane Senate republicans to get off their knees and stop kissing Trump's fat ass.....and start worrying for their own re-election chances in 2020.....REMEMBER that there are almost TWENTY republican senators up for re-election and the longer the shutdown lasts, their chances diminish.

wrong as usual, gnat. the majority of americans want a secure border and understand that a physical barrier is one significant part of that. It will be built in spite of the foolish protestations of idiots like Pelosi and Schumer (who voted and funded a wall under Obama).

there is only one reason why the dems are opposing it now, they want a talking point for 2020 that Trump failed to deliver on his wall promise. That's all this has ever been about, and anyone with a lick of common sense knows it.

 

[Siete]

Trump's wall (the "monument" that he wants to build strictly for his own search for glory) will NEVER be built......PERIOD........the 2018 election confirmed this.

So, the ONLY way to stop this madness of a government shutdown, is for sane Senate republicans to get off their knees and stop kissing Trump's fat ass.....and start worrying for their own re-election chances in 2020.....REMEMBER that there are almost TWENTY republican senators up for re-election and the longer the shutdown lasts, their chances diminish.

wrong as usual, gnat. the majority of americans want a secure border and understand that a physical barrier is one significant part of that. It will be built in spite of the foolish protestations of idiots like Pelosi and Schumer (who voted and funded a wall under Obama).

there is only one reason why the dems are opposing it now, they want a talking point for 2020 that Trump failed to deliver on his wall promise. That's all this has ever been about, and anyone with a lick of common sense knows it.

thats bullshit catfishboi, pure BULLSHIT.

 

[g5000]

I suppose it's just a matter of time before Trump declares martial law due to too many people cheating on their taxes.

"It's a national crisis, for chrissakes!"

 

[nat4900]

the majority of americans want a secure border and understand that a physical barrier is one significant part of that. It will be built in spite of the foolish protestations of idiots like Pelosi and Schumer (who voted and funded a wall under Obama).

Trump Says Country Wants Border Wall, But That's Not What Polls Say ...

Poll: Majorities oppose Trump's wall funding demand, call for

 

[Redfish]

Trump's wall (the "monument" that he wants to build strictly for his own search for glory) will NEVER be built......PERIOD........the 2018 election confirmed this.

So, the ONLY way to stop this madness of a government shutdown, is for sane Senate republicans to get off their knees and stop kissing Trump's fat ass.....and start worrying for their own re-election chances in 2020.....REMEMBER that there are almost TWENTY republican senators up for re-election and the longer the shutdown lasts, their chances diminish.

wrong as usual, gnat. the majority of americans want a secure border and understand that a physical barrier is one significant part of that. It will be built in spite of the foolish protestations of idiots like Pelosi and Schumer (who voted and funded a wall under Obama).

there is only one reason why the dems are opposing it now, they want a talking point for 2020 that Trump failed to deliver on his wall promise. That's all this has ever been about, and anyone with a lick of common sense knows it.

thats bullshit catfishboi, pure BULLSHIT.

No, what I said is 100% true, the dems supported and voted to fund a wall twice before Trump took office, now they won't. Its nothing but political bullshit, so your claim of bullshit is correct as it applies to the dems. This entire fiasco is about gaining talking points for the next election, Face it.

 

[Siete]

I suppose it's just a matter of time before Trump declares martial law due to too many people cheating on their taxes.

"It's a national crisis, for chrissakes!"

Trumpbots are chickenshits and he knows he can play the fear factor card to keep them supporting his bullshit lies.

 

[g5000]

Trump's wall (the "monument" that he wants to build strictly for his own search for glory) will NEVER be built......PERIOD........the 2018 election confirmed this.

So, the ONLY way to stop this madness of a government shutdown, is for sane Senate republicans to get off their knees and stop kissing Trump's fat ass.....and start worrying for their own re-election chances in 2020.....REMEMBER that there are almost TWENTY republican senators up for re-election and the longer the shutdown lasts, their chances diminish.

wrong as usual, gnat. the majority of americans want a secure border and understand that a physical barrier is one significant part of that. It will be built in spite of the foolish protestations of idiots like Pelosi and Schumer (who voted and funded a wall under Obama).

there is only one reason why the dems are opposing it now, they want a talking point for 2020 that Trump failed to deliver on his wall promise. That's all this has ever been about, and anyone with a lick of common sense knows it.

thats bullshit catfishboi, pure BULLSHIT.

No, what I said is 100% true, the dems supported and voted to fund a wall twice before Trump took office, now they won't. Its nothing but political bullshit, so your claim of bullshit is correct as it applies to the dems. This entire fiasco is about gaining talking points for the next election, Face it.

The dems funded as much of the wall as they felt necessary. They never supported a full 2000 mile long wall.

The part they wanted has been built.

You're being hoaxed by your propagandists. Again.

 

[Valerie]

Trumpbots are chickenshits and he knows he can play the fear factor card to keep them supporting his bullshit lies.

ignorant simpleton emos is what they are...

 

[g5000]

The Democrats want to see more funding for border protection at our ports of entry. That's where the drugs are coming in. Trucks, ships, and planes.

 

[Siete]

The Democrats want to see more funding for border protection at our ports of entry. That's where the drugs are coming in. Trucks, ships, and planes.

wrong - 10 mexicans are swimming the river with 40 tons of pot every night.

 

[Redfish]

I suppose it's just a matter of time before Trump declares martial law due to too many people cheating on their taxes.

"It's a national crisis, for chrissakes!"

or he could do what Obama did and have the IRS illegally attack his political enemies.

The invasion across our southern border, drugs, guns, human sex traffic, disease is a national crisis. Ask the family of the police officer (a legal immigrant) in California if its a crisis. Ask the families of the thousands of Americans that have been killed by illegals, ask about the billions of our tax dollars that are being spent providing free housing, medical care, and food stamps to people who have no right to be in our country. YES, it is a crisis. The fact that you are too dumb to understand that does not change it.

 

[Redfish]

The Democrats want to see more funding for border protection at our ports of entry. That's where the drugs are coming in. Trucks, ships, and planes.

a physical barrier will force the illegal traffic to go through those ports of entry, so that the criminals can be caught. Both are necessary, but the dems want a "no wall" talking point for 2020 and that's all this has ever been about.

 

[Obama2020]

those countries have seen massive increases in knife, vehicle, and blunt object violence. 99.9% of gun owners have never, and will never, commit a gun crime.
the problem is not guns, we have always had guns in this country. The problem is a sick society that ignores the basics of right and wrong, glorifies violence in movies and songs, and has lost all touch with God.
the second amendment was put in the constitution to protect the citizens from the government and criminals. Your ideas would allow only the government and criminals to have guns. that's what happened in Mao's China and Hitler's Germany. It amazes me that you liberals refuse to learn from the history of those regimes.

You may want to look at this... and maybe listen to other sources than Donald Trump...

Trump's knife crime claim: how do the US and UK compare?

There is more we can all do to combat this violence, but to suggest guns are part of the solution is ridiculous,” said Professor Karim Brohi, trauma surgeon at the Royal London Hospital. “Gunshot wounds are at least twice as lethal as knife injuries and more difficult to repair."

Trump's NRA speech also drew anger in France on Saturday, after the US president, using his hand in a gun gesture, acted out how a gunman had killed hostages one by one during an attack in Paris in November 2015.

Trump said a civilian could have stopped the massacre at the Bataclan concert hall, where 90 of the 130 victims of the attack died, had they had a gun.

Former French president Francois Hollande, who was head of state at the time, said on Twitter that Trump's comments and antics were "shameful" and "obscene".

 

[Redfish]

the majority of americans want a secure border and understand that a physical barrier is one significant part of that. It will be built in spite of the foolish protestations of idiots like Pelosi and Schumer (who voted and funded a wall under Obama).

Trump Says Country Wants Border Wall, But That's Not What Polls Say ...

Poll: Majorities oppose Trump's wall funding demand, call for

you quote huffpuff post as a credible source??? WTF.

 

[Siete]

I suppose it's just a matter of time before Trump declares martial law due to too many people cheating on their taxes.

"It's a national crisis, for chrissakes!"

or he could do what Obama did and have the IRS illegally attack his political enemies.

The invasion across our southern border, drugs, guns, human sex traffic, disease is a national crisis. Ask the family of the police officer (a legal immigrant) in California if its a crisis. Ask the families of the thousands of Americans that have been killed by illegals, ask about the billions of our tax dollars that are being spent providing free housing, medical care, and food stamps to people who have no right to be in our country. YES, it is a crisis. The fact that you are too dumb to understand that does not change it.

I live in Texas - its nothing like that ... NOTHING AT ALL LIKE THAT.

trump has every stupid fuck in the country believing the border is some no mans land.

get your sorry ass down here and look.

 

[nat4900]

The dems funded as much of the wall as they felt necessary. They never supported a full 2000 mile long wall.

The part they wanted has been built.

You're being hoaxed by your propagandists. Again.

Also, did the Dems. EVER state that Mexico would readily pay for the wall???...lol

 

[Redfish]

those countries have seen massive increases in knife, vehicle, and blunt object violence. 99.9% of gun owners have never, and will never, commit a gun crime.
the problem is not guns, we have always had guns in this country. The problem is a sick society that ignores the basics of right and wrong, glorifies violence in movies and songs, and has lost all touch with God.
the second amendment was put in the constitution to protect the citizens from the government and criminals. Your ideas would allow only the government and criminals to have guns. that's what happened in Mao's China and Hitler's Germany. It amazes me that you liberals refuse to learn from the history of those regimes.

You may want to look at this... and maybe listen to other sources than Donald Trump...

Trump's knife crime claim: how do the US and UK compare?

There is more we can all do to combat this violence, but to suggest guns are part of the solution is ridiculous,” said Professor Karim Brohi, trauma surgeon at the Royal London Hospital. “Gunshot wounds are at least twice as lethal as knife injuries and more difficult to repair."

Trump's NRA speech also drew anger in France on Saturday, after the US president, using his hand in a gun gesture, acted out how a gunman had killed hostages one by one during an attack in Paris in November 2015.

Trump said a civilian could have stopped the massacre at the Bataclan concert hall, where 90 of the 130 victims of the attack died, had they had a gun.

Former French president Francois Hollande, who was head of state at the time, said on Twitter that Trump's comments and antics were "shameful" and "obscene".

I don't really care what the frogs think. This is not France, we have individual freedom and rights. But even in those repressive societies they have violent crimes. the implement used is not the problem, the problem is a society that creates monsters that want to kill large numbers of fellow human beings. Until society is fixed, violence will continue, banning guns wont change anything. Plus there is no possible way for the government to take the hundreds of millions of guns owned by americans.

 

[Redfish]

I suppose it's just a matter of time before Trump declares martial law due to too many people cheating on their taxes.

"It's a national crisis, for chrissakes!"

or he could do what Obama did and have the IRS illegally attack his political enemies.

The invasion across our southern border, drugs, guns, human sex traffic, disease is a national crisis. Ask the family of the police officer (a legal immigrant) in California if its a crisis. Ask the families of the thousands of Americans that have been killed by illegals, ask about the billions of our tax dollars that are being spent providing free housing, medical care, and food stamps to people who have no right to be in our country. YES, it is a crisis. The fact that you are too dumb to understand that does not change it.

I live in Texas - its nothing like that ... NOTHING AT ALL LIKE THAT.

trump has every stupid fuck in the country believing the border is some no mans land.

get your sorry ass down here and look.

Which border town do you live in? Hint: Houston and Dallas and Austin are not border towns.

 

[Redfish]

The dems funded as much of the wall as they felt necessary. They never supported a full 2000 mile long wall.

The part they wanted has been built.

You're being hoaxed by your propagandists. Again.

Also, did the Dems. EVER state that Mexico would readily pay for the wall???...lol

Trump never said that Mexico would write us a check or send a pallet of money to pay for the wall. It was always an indirect payment resulting from improved trade deals.

But on pallets of money-------------------where did Obama get the 150 billion that he shipped to Iran? Did congress vote on that?

 

[g5000]

I suppose it's just a matter of time before Trump declares martial law due to too many people cheating on their taxes.

"It's a national crisis, for chrissakes!"

or he could do what Obama did and have the IRS illegally attack his political enemies.

Link?

Show me evidence Obama ordered his enemies attacked by the IRS.