CDZ Objective Journalism?

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    You've gotta be kidding me.

    Okay, just for the hell of it. Let's saying they're talking about "Trump's booming economy". Here are a few examples, of many:
    • When they talk about Trump's "booming economy", why don't they bring up the fact that he exploded the deficit, and that the "boom" is now down to 1.9% growth?
    • When they talk about Trump's "booming economy", why don't they bring up the fact that we've been in a manufacturing recession for quite a while now?
    • When they talk about Trump's "booming economy", why don't they bring up the fact that bond yields have crashed by more than 40%, reflecting market sentiment?
    • When they talk about Trump's great record on black unemployment, why do they forget to mention that it's just continuing the trajectory he inherited from Obama?
    All of those are perfectly pertinent and significant FACTS regarding the big picture that should AT LEAST be DISCUSSED if we're going to be HONEST.

    But they DON'T. And YOU KNOW WHY. It's because those FACTS run CONTRARY to their NARROW PARTISAN NARRATIVE, so they IGNORE them.

    So, in the "news" and "information" world you inhabit, you're only getting one, incomplete, distorted view of reality. You are not getting the whole story. Just one side. Somewhere, at some level, you HAVE to know this.
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    The right hates Conkrite for stating the obvious, that the Vietnam war was pointless, but it still dragged on for four more years after he turned against it.... so he hardly had the influence the right ascribes to him.

    The big difference between then and now is that back then, networks were expected to operate their news operations at a loss. If Conkrite was talking about Vietnam, it was because CBS had reporters in Vietnam telling you what is going on there. The job of the News was not to sell Corn Flakes. That was the Beverly Hillbillies job. It was to keep the people informed.

    Today, the purpose of the news is to get ratings. So they spend less money on correspondents and more on Overpaid News Readers.

    One of my favorite movies is Network, that saw the beginning of this trend away from journalism and towards entertainment. Of course, the "Insane" Howard Beale seems sedate compared to Rachel Maddow and Tucker Carlson. We went from "Send a correspondent over to find out what is going on" and "Have a bunch of people at a table scream at each other about what is going on."
     
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    Tell us about how Hannity and Limbaugh discuss Trump's deficits?

    They both had no problem complaining about deficits under Obama.
     
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    The Trump followers would prefer everyone just accept what Trump says as truth and facts.

    Which is why there has been such an assault on American journalism.
     
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    There is no 'gold standard.' Which you would know if you take in more than NPR and AP. CNN has become a joke in it's political reporting.
     
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    Why not? Obamites accepted what he said as truth and facts.
     
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    Sorry- not the case.

    And Obama never insisted that everyone must believe what he said and would personally attack anyone who dared criticize him.
     
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    Less than 16 million listen to Rush, finding your comment tough to believe.
     
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    and you actually think the con media and the coniacs who mindlessly absorb all the spin and lies are any better?

    "liberals hate god" actually makes sense to you?
    "liberals want to force us all to be gay" actually makes sense to you?
    "all liberals are commy nazi fascist scum who hate America" is REAL to you?

    pathetic
     
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    I used Rush as an example of a biased source of news. If you only get your news some right-wing or left-wing sources you don't get a balanced view and will suffer confirmation bias.
     
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