Obama's inexperience in perspective

[Article 15]

I don't know about more qualified.

Bush Sr. and Clinton were pretty good presidents. Reagan was a disaster. Carter was the victim of the oil crisis and Paul Volker's crazy Federal Reserve policy. Nixon was a great foreign policy president. LBJ was awful. JFK was a great president and is the closest to Obama.

Every POTUS you listed was "more experienced" when they ran than Obama.

 

[DiveCon]

Our long national nightmare will soon be over.

um, how old are you?
16?

 

[Article 15]

But to be fair, I think that should Obama get elected he is qualified and capable enough for the job ... I just wouldn't go around sayin' he's the most qualified to run in a long time ...

 

[DiveCon]

But to be fair, I think that should Obama get elected he is qualified and capable enough for the job ... I just wouldn't go around sayin' he's the most qualified to run in a long time ...

i dont even think he is the most qualified now

but qualifications is not what makes one POTUS, its EC votes

 

[Jon]

JFK was a great president and is the closest to Obama.

Bay of Pigs and the Cuban Missile Crisis. Continual funding of the Vietnam war.

It's also duly noted that Kennedy did very little of significance during his term. Honestly, other than boosting the space program and supporting Civil Rights, I'd say he did next to nothing. Given, he was President for only a short time, but still...why people herald him as a great President still amazes me.

I'd say that Kennedy COULD have been a great President. But, so could Gore. I'm not going to call HIM one of the greatest Presidents of all time, nor will I call Kennedy such. Not that he was a bad President, either.

 

[DiamondDave]

Thanks for proving my point.

Carter is the worst president in U.S. history. Closely followed by Clinton.

fixed

 

[Red Dawn]

Bush actually HAD the experience
he was a 2 term Governor

Your continued loyalty to Bush is duly noted.

Bush served 5 years as a Governor in a state where the position of Governor is pretty much limited to a relatively powerless figurehead by the state constitution. Prior to that, Bush was a failed businessman.

Obama has 4 years in the US Senate and 7 years in the Illinois senate.



I don't see your point that Bush was vastly more experienced than Obama.

 

[DiamondDave]

Your continued loyalty to Bush is duly noted.

Bush served 5 years as a Governor in a state where the position of Governor is pretty much limited to a relatively powerless figurehead by the state constitution. Prior to that, Bush was a failed businessman.

Obama has 4 years in the US Senate and 7 years in the Illinois senate.



I don't see your point that Bush was vastly more experienced than Obama.

I have 5 years military experience and 16 years in telecommunications... so I have more experience than Obama, right?

In fact executive experience is much different than 'community organizer' etc.... Obama has zero executive experience and very limited experience in any effective government position... he has tons of experience trying to teach the principles of socialism and marxism, though

and I did not realize that voting "present" was so integral in obtaining experience

 

[busara]

That's what training is for correct? What training has Obama had? A civil rights organizer, a state senator or a US senator for less than 1 term? You do realize he stated he wasn't qualified correct? That's before he changed his position and now states that experience isn't important.

college takes the place of any needed job experience as well, right?


i'm not saying his lack of political experience shouldnt be a concern. i'm just pointing out the foolishness of saying that fact will mean he will be a terrible president. there is no way of knowing.
the way this argument is presented is little more than fearmongering

 

[DiamondDave]

There may be "no way of knowing"... but the probability of a person without experience being as successful or more successful than someone with experience is not very high

And IMHO.. college means squat

 

[sealybobo]

RealClearPolitics - Articles - Why Obama is in Trouble

You voted for Bush who was a draft dodger instead of McCain and then voted for Bush the draft dodger instead of Kerry, who was a war hero. Now you want to suggest that McCain's time in a POW camp makes him better qualified to serve?

When Bush was governor, the legislature only met twice I year. Bush has the least amount of experience on every matter, yet you voted for him twice. And his results have been disasterous.

I suppose since McCain has experience getting us into recessions we should also believe that he'd be more qualified to get us out of one? What a joke.

 

[DiamondDave]

You voted for Bush who was a draft dodger instead of McCain and then voted for Bush the draft dodger instead of Kerry, who was a war hero. Now you want to suggest that McCain's time in a POW camp makes him better qualified to serve?

When Bush was governor, the legislature only met twice I year. Bush has the least amount of experience on every matter, yet you voted for him twice. And his results have been disasterous.

I suppose since McCain has experience getting us into recessions we should also believe that he'd be more qualified to get us out of one? What a joke.

Any more slogans and misleadings you can throw into that statement?

Kerry was not a war hero... he verged on being a war criminal for his actions of meeting with the enemy while on inactive reserve...

Bush, if he would have been a 'draft dodger' would have been punished and more would have came out other than falsified documents splashed forth by the liberal media

McCain had good support in 2000, including mine... and even though many people supported McCain over Bush... they certainly would not inherently switch that support away from the Republican party in favor of the idiot slimebag Kerry

 

[sealybobo]

Any more slogans and misleadings you can throw into that statement?

Kerry was not a war hero... he verged on being a war criminal for his actions of meeting with the enemy while on inactive reserve...

Bush, if he would have been a 'draft dodger' would have been punished and more would have came out other than falsified documents splashed forth by the liberal media

McCain had good support in 2000, including mine... and even though many people supported McCain over Bush... they certainly would not inherently switch that support away from the Republican party in favor of the idiot slimebag Kerry

Boy, I bet if the GOP told you dicks were yummy you'd be eating a dick right now. Do you even know the story behind that forged document that said Bush was AWOL? No you do not.

Rove forged that document. It was a real document, just had Rove's signature on it. That's how they set Rather up and got him fired. They did what Republicans do best. Attack the accuser. So the story went away. The story became about Rather's bad information. But the fact still remains, and it is FACT, that Bush dodged the draft, went MIA.

Bush also convinced a woman to get an illegal abortion before Roe vs. Wade. The media knows who she is but they have been bullied into not talking about it and she won't speak out anymore either. They must have threatened or paid her off.

I just think it is hilarious how you understand we are the most powerful country in the world but yet you don't understand how powerful that makes our politicians. You are insane

 

[DiamondDave]

Boy, I bet if the GOP told you dicks were yummy you'd be eating a dick right now. Do you even know the story behind that forged document that said Bush was AWOL? No you do not.

Rove forged that document. It was a real document, just had Rove's signature on it. That's how they set Rather up and got him fired. They did what Republicans do best. Attack the accuser. So the story went away. The story became about Rather's bad information. But the fact still remains, and it is FACT, that Bush dodged the draft, went MIA.

Bush also convinced a woman to get an illegal abortion before Roe vs. Wade. The media knows who she is but they have been bullied into not talking about it and she won't speak out anymore either. They must have threatened or paid her off.

I just think it is hilarious how you understand we are the most powerful country in the world but yet you don't understand how powerful that makes our politicians. You are insane

Any more whack-job conspiracy theories you buy into because of your Bush Derangement Syndrome?

 

[Jon]

You voted for Bush who was a draft dodger instead of McCain and then voted for Bush the draft dodger instead of Kerry, who was a war hero. Now you want to suggest that McCain's time in a POW camp makes him better qualified to serve?

When Bush was governor, the legislature only met twice I year. Bush has the least amount of experience on every matter, yet you voted for him twice. And his results have been disasterous.

I suppose since McCain has experience getting us into recessions we should also believe that he'd be more qualified to get us out of one? What a joke.

You obviously can't read, can you? I've stated in this topic twice that I voted for Gore. And, for your information, I also voted for Kerry.

Get a clue, jackass. Not everyone votes based on partisan lines. We're not all blinded by fear and ignorance.

 

[DiveCon]

Any more whack-job conspiracy theories you buy into because of your Bush Derangement Syndrome?

the BDS is pretty thick with these, isnt it?

 

[Red Dawn]

There were a lot of Fred Thompson fans on this board during the GOP primaries.

Thompson was a one term senator, and prior to that was a television actor.

I heard not one single republican, not one single Thompson fan complain about his lack of experience. I never heard Fox News challenge thompson's experience.

That's why this thread can be chalked up as hyper partisan concern trolling.

 

[DiveCon]

There were a lot of Fred Thompson fans on this board during the GOP primaries.

Thompson was a one term senator, and prior to that was a television actor.

I heard not one single republican, not one single Thompson fan complain about his lack of experience. I never heard Fox News challenge thompson's experience.

That's why this thread can be chalked up as hyper partisan concern trolling.

you coulkdnt be more wrong

Fred Thompson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

(insert usual wiki disclaimer)

it was AFTER his senate terms(1 partial and 1 full term) he became an actor

 

[jreeves]

Obama was against the war in Iraq from the beginning. That shows that his judgement is better than 99% of the politicians in America.

When he believed Saddam had WMD's, that is bad judgement not good judgement.

 

[jreeves]

college takes the place of any needed job experience as well, right?


i'm not saying his lack of political experience shouldnt be a concern. i'm just pointing out the foolishness of saying that fact will mean he will be a terrible president. there is no way of knowing.
the way this argument is presented is little more than fearmongering

Obama's constant wavering in the face of the political winds is an indication of what we would be in for under an Obama adminstration. Foreign leaders would know the way to effect American policy, would be to effect American polls.