Obama's 'Apology Tour' Not True

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Rinata, Sep 15, 2012.

  1. Rinata
    Offline

    Rinata Gold Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2009
    Messages:
    6,787
    Thanks Received:
    957
    Trophy Points:
    153
    Ratings:
    +971
    The Fact Checker senses a campaign theme emerging: Obama the apologizer.

    The claim that Obama is an apologist for America actually began to take shape shortly after he became president. It had been bubbling in the conservative blogs before Karl Rove published an article titled "The President's Apology Tour" in the Wall Street Journal on April 23, 2009.

    By June, the conservative Heritage Foundation began running a list: "Barack Obama's Top 10 Apologies: How the President Has Humiliated a Superpower."

    Most of the criticism stems from a series of speeches that Obama made shortly after taking office, when he was trying to introduce himself to the world and also signify a break with the Bush administration with new policies.

    This is typical of many new presidents. George W. Bush, for instance, quickly broke with Clinton administration policy on dealings with North Korea, the Kyoto climate change treaty and the international criminal court, to name a few.

    Obama told the Turkish parliament, in which he was trying to urge that country to come to terms with its tragic history with the Armenians: "The United States is still working through some of our own darker periods in our history. Facing the Washington Monument that I spoke of is a memorial of Abraham Lincoln, the man who freed those who were enslaved even after Washington led our Revolution."

    But compare what Obama said to what George W. Bush said at Senegal's Goree Island in 2003. Bush called the U.S. constitution flawed and said that America is still troubled by the legacy of slavery. This does not seem like an apology, either -- but it is even more sharply framed than Obama's comments.

    Why would Obama's comment on slavery be considered an apology and not Bush's?

    The Pinocchio Test

    The claim that Obama repeatedly has apologized for the United States is not borne out by the facts, especially if his full quotes are viewed in context.

    Obama often was trying to draw a rhetorical distinction between his policies and that of President Bush, a common practice when the presidency changes parties. The shift in policies, in fact, might have been more dramatic from Clinton to Bush than from Bush to Obama, given how Obama has largely maintained Bush's approach to fighting terrorism.

    In other cases, Obama's quotes have been selectively trimmed for political purposes. Or they were not much different than sentiments expressed by Bush or his secretary of state. Republicans may certainly disagree with Obama's handling of foreign policy or particular policies he has pursued, but they should not invent a storyline that does not appear to exist. [/COLOR]

    Note to GOP speechwriters and campaign ad makers: The apology tour never happened.

    Fact Checker - Obama's 'Apology Tour'
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 3
  2. CrusaderFrank
    Online

    CrusaderFrank Diamond Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2009
    Messages:
    81,169
    Thanks Received:
    14,903
    Trophy Points:
    2,210
    Ratings:
    +36,905


    OMFG! You're right! Again!

    Obama never even said that!

    Here's what he said, "We succeed because of our individual initiative but ... of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together."
     
  3. SniperFire
    Offline

    SniperFire Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2012
    Messages:
    13,627
    Thanks Received:
    1,219
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Inside Your Head
    Ratings:
    +1,223
    Obama's Apology Tour(s) were his way of telling all the little borat nations that it was OK to now run amok, as the Leader of the Free World was withdrawing.


    We see the results.


    Elections have consequences. Vote responsibly next time, peeps!
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  4. CrusaderFrank
    Online

    CrusaderFrank Diamond Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2009
    Messages:
    81,169
    Thanks Received:
    14,903
    Trophy Points:
    2,210
    Ratings:
    +36,905
    Obama looks so cool and Presidential and stuff when he was telling everyone the USA would be the mean poopyhead it was before he was anointed
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  5. skookerasbil
    Offline

    skookerasbil Gold Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2009
    Messages:
    24,155
    Thanks Received:
    2,911
    Trophy Points:
    290
    Location:
    Not the middle of nowhere
    Ratings:
    +6,181




    meh


    This is a POLITICS forum s0n...........nobody cares what some k00ks's opinion is in the nether-regions of the internet. Everybody else and their brother think the whole thing was what it was: an apology tour.

     
  6. Grampa Murked U
    Offline

    Grampa Murked U Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2011
    Messages:
    47,529
    Thanks Received:
    8,775
    Trophy Points:
    2,055
    Location:
    Kansas City
    Ratings:
    +23,769
    Your title should say IT'S NOT OVER
     
  7. meson
    Offline

    meson Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2012
    Messages:
    240
    Thanks Received:
    50
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Ratings:
    +50
    Anybody with half a brain knows that the right wing smear machine were out to discredit anything
    Obama did or said from the beginning of his campaign.
     
  8. percysunshine
    Offline

    percysunshine Gold Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2011
    Messages:
    16,664
    Thanks Received:
    2,260
    Trophy Points:
    280
    Location:
    Sty
    Ratings:
    +5,835
    When Obama loses in November, will he then enter a twelve step program for recovering fascisti?

    He kind of needs to say it...

    "My name is 'Barry. And I am a Fascist!"
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 2
  9. RosieS
    Offline

    RosieS Partisan Courtesan Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2012
    Messages:
    2,203
    Thanks Received:
    544
    Trophy Points:
    165
    Location:
    Southwest FL
    Ratings:
    +747
    Obama needs to do an apology tour for Romney going abroad and screwing up royally. We are so sorry for Mitt infliction! Lech Walesa's endorsement? SRSLY?

    Regards from Rosie
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  10. Liability
    Offline

    Liability Locked Account. Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2009
    Messages:
    35,447
    Thanks Received:
    5,049
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Mansion in Ravi's Head
    Ratings:
    +5,063
    The reality is that the OP is false and "fact checker" performed dishonest propaganda.

    The fuckwit imbecile incumbent sure as hell DID go on an "America Sucks" tour.

    President Obama DID say that "[the United States] 'has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive.'"

    In a major address to the UN where (admittedly) SOME of what the President said seems taken out of context, other parts are quite clearly in context: He said: " And I admit that America has too often been selective in its promotion of democracy." Try to pretend that he wasn't thereby essentially saying "and for that America owes an apology."

    And when, in THAT SAME speech the President said the following, let's be honest. He was making claims about what we HAD allegedly done in the past to get praise for his "new" approach. He WAS fucking apologizing for some of our ALLEGED behaviors:

    -- Remarks by the President to the United Nations General Assembly | The White House

    Asshole lying sacks of liberal propagandist shit, such as "politifact" call the claim that Pres. Obama went on a world apology tour a "liar liar pants on fire" kind of lie. PolitiFact | Mitt Romney said Barack Obama began his presidency with an apology tour

    But that fucking piece of shit propagandist apologist organization itself lied. They selectively snipped out of the President's UN speech just the parts that suited their agenda. Fuck them and all the hacks who cite their shit as credible "evidence."

    The Wall Street Journal got it right:
    -- Obama Blames America - WSJ.com
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2012

Share This Page