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And you lefties are as shamelessly dishonest as they come."Tax cut" means reducing the rates paid for all, not rigging the system with deductions and credits to pander to favored political patrons.
Right. Because paying less taxes isn't a "tax cut". I already got that. Unless, of course, its passed by a right winger.
BTW - I love how eliminating a tax deduction is considered a "tax hike" but created one is not considered a "tax cut". My Lord you righties are nothing but a bunch of shameless etch-a-sketchers.
Somewhere in the cosmic ether, both Rand and Orwell are having some big lulz at your cheap political bastardization of the language.
- George Orwell, 1946 'Why I Write'Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it.
That's not "lowering taxes" anymore than scooping some water out of the deep end of the pool and pouring it back in at the shallow end, reduces the overall water level of the pool....That's rewarding one favored political patronage group, at the expense of another.And you lefties are as shamelessly dishonest as they come.
Somewhere in the cosmic ether, both Rand and Orwell are having some big lulz at your cheap political bastardization of the language.
No I agree 100% with you - lowering the taxes paid by those making less than 88k is NOT a tax cut on the middle class - but raising the taxes paid by those making over 200/250k IS a tax hike on the middle class.
What's wrong with that logic - its yours, isn't it?
The logical flaws are all yours, pal.
Tax credits and other jimmying of the system to benefit favored constituencies aren't rate cuts.
Blatant lying is a really poor way to get your point across.
Right. Having to pay less taxes isn't a tax cut. Got it.
Your silly-assed "point" is no more valid in large bold letters.That's not "lowering taxes" anymore than scooping some water out of the deep end of the pool and pouring it back in at the shallow end, reduces the overall water level of the pool....That's rewarding one favored political patronage group, at the expense of another.No I agree 100% with you - lowering the taxes paid by those making less than 88k is NOT a tax cut on the middle class - but raising the taxes paid by those making over 200/250k IS a tax hike on the middle class.
What's wrong with that logic - its yours, isn't it?
The logical flaws are all yours, pal.
If the right wing wishes to consider the American middle class to be a "favored political patronage group" of the left - go ahead, just don't whine when you LOSE.
Look idiot! If you pay $100 less in taxes, and I pay $150 more, it is a net $25 tax increase on each of us. Someone has to pay for the program AND the bribe."Tax cut" means reducing the rates paid for all, not rigging the system with deductions and credits to pander to favored political patrons.Right. Having to pay less taxes isn't a tax cut. Got it.
Right. Because paying less taxes isn't a "tax cut". I already got that. Unless, of course, its passed by a right winger.
BTW - I love how eliminating a tax deduction is considered a "tax hike" but created one is not considered a "tax cut". My Lord you righties are nothing but a bunch of shameless etch-a-sketchers.
Tax credits and other jimmying of the system to benefit favored constituencies aren't rate cuts.
Blatant lying is a really poor way to get your point across.
Right. Having to pay less taxes isn't a tax cut. Got it.
No, a tax cut has equal benefit for everyone.
Look idiot! If you pay $100 less in taxes, and I pay $150 more, it is a net $25 tax increase on each of us. Someone has to pay for the program AND the bribe."Tax cut" means reducing the rates paid for all, not rigging the system with deductions and credits to pander to favored political patrons.
Right. Because paying less taxes isn't a "tax cut". I already got that. Unless, of course, its passed by a right winger.
BTW - I love how eliminating a tax deduction is considered a "tax hike" but created one is not considered a "tax cut". My Lord you righties are nothing but a bunch of shameless etch-a-sketchers.
Your silly-assed "point" is no more valid in large bold letters.That's not "lowering taxes" anymore than scooping some water out of the deep end of the pool and pouring it back in at the shallow end, reduces the overall water level of the pool....That's rewarding one favored political patronage group, at the expense of another.
The logical flaws are all yours, pal.
If the right wing wishes to consider the American middle class to be a "favored political patronage group" of the left - go ahead, just don't whine when you LOSE.
The tax rates remain the same...Only the benefits doled out to the proles, via an already incomprehensible tax code, are slightly changed.
Who is going to pay for the tax credits?
The family of four will be paying through the nose because everything it buys or uses will have the new taxes built in. They will undoubtably need more public help to enable them to survive, increasing their dependency on the government.
Right. Having to pay less taxes isn't a tax cut. Got it.
No, a tax cut has equal benefit for everyone.
No, I got it. If I pay less in taxes - that's not a tax cut. That's a tax hike. I'm actually paying MORE in taxes when I pay less, at least, in fucked up stupidy head right wing moron land. Whatever the reality is - we know Obama is bad and mean and hates America. We can't let facts stand in the way of that truth.
BTW - if a tax cut has to have equal benefit for everyone to be considered a tax cut - how come a tax hike is a tax hike no matter what, regardless of whether its on everyone or just on a subset of people? Is it because you're stupid? Shouldn't the definition of "tax cut" be the exact opposite of "tax hike" - or do we need to make that more complicated in order to make Obama look like the meanie we all know him to be?
Look idiot! If you pay $100 less in taxes, and I pay $150 more, it is a net $25 tax increase on each of us. Someone has to pay for the program AND the bribe.Right. Because paying less taxes isn't a "tax cut". I already got that. Unless, of course, its passed by a right winger.
BTW - I love how eliminating a tax deduction is considered a "tax hike" but created one is not considered a "tax cut". My Lord you righties are nothing but a bunch of shameless etch-a-sketchers.
But I won't pay $100 less in taxes under Obamacare. My net tax change is zero dollars. Why do you think you'll pay $150 more?
No, a tax cut has equal benefit for everyone.
No, I got it. If I pay less in taxes - that's not a tax cut. That's a tax hike. I'm actually paying MORE in taxes when I pay less, at least, in fucked up stupidy head right wing moron land. Whatever the reality is - we know Obama is bad and mean and hates America. We can't let facts stand in the way of that truth.
BTW - if a tax cut has to have equal benefit for everyone to be considered a tax cut - how come a tax hike is a tax hike no matter what, regardless of whether its on everyone or just on a subset of people? Is it because you're stupid? Shouldn't the definition of "tax cut" be the exact opposite of "tax hike" - or do we need to make that more complicated in order to make Obama look like the meanie we all know him to be?
If in totality, a tax increase, increases taxes, it's a tax increase. Logical to the point of absurdity, right?
If a tax credit program results in a net increase in tax collected, it is a tax increase, no matter how it affects an individual's wallet
Look idiot! If you pay $100 less in taxes, and I pay $150 more, it is a net $25 tax increase on each of us. Someone has to pay for the program AND the bribe.
But I won't pay $100 less in taxes under Obamacare. My net tax change is zero dollars. Why do you think you'll pay $150 more?
If you get a $100 tax credit, someone has to make up the difference AND still fund the program.
No, I got it. If I pay less in taxes - that's not a tax cut. That's a tax hike. I'm actually paying MORE in taxes when I pay less, at least, in fucked up stupidy head right wing moron land. Whatever the reality is - we know Obama is bad and mean and hates America. We can't let facts stand in the way of that truth.
BTW - if a tax cut has to have equal benefit for everyone to be considered a tax cut - how come a tax hike is a tax hike no matter what, regardless of whether its on everyone or just on a subset of people? Is it because you're stupid? Shouldn't the definition of "tax cut" be the exact opposite of "tax hike" - or do we need to make that more complicated in order to make Obama look like the meanie we all know him to be?
If in totality, a tax increase, increases taxes, it's a tax increase. Logical to the point of absurdity, right?
If a tax credit program results in a net increase in tax collected, it is a tax increase, no matter how it affects an individual's wallet
Is that why its a "tax hike on the middle class" when taxes are raised for the wealthy and lowed for the middle class?
LOL!
If in totality, a tax increase, increases taxes, it's a tax increase. Logical to the point of absurdity, right?
If a tax credit program results in a net increase in tax collected, it is a tax increase, no matter how it affects an individual's wallet
Is that why its a "tax hike on the middle class" when taxes are raised for the wealthy and lowed for the middle class?
LOL!
If there is a net increase in taxes collected, it's a tax increase, is it not?
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Premium Tax CreditsThe new tax credits will provide much-needed assistance to insured individuals and families who struggle harder each year to pay rising premiums, as well as to uninsured individuals and families who need help purchasing coverage that otherwise would be completely out of reach financially. Most of the families who will be eligible for the tax credits will be employed, many for small businesses, and will have incomes between two and four times poverty (between $44,100 and $88,200 for a family of four based on 2010 poverty guidelines).
Since Republicans are opposed to the PPACA - this is my recommendation. Take whatever tax cut you get from it, find the richest person you know, and give it to them, so they can make jobs.
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Premium Tax CreditsThe new tax credits will provide much-needed assistance to insured individuals and families who struggle harder each year to pay rising premiums, as well as to uninsured individuals and families who need help purchasing coverage that otherwise would be completely out of reach financially. Most of the families who will be eligible for the tax credits will be employed, many for small businesses, and will have incomes between two and four times poverty (between $44,100 and $88,200 for a family of four based on 2010 poverty guidelines).
Since Republicans are opposed to the PPACA - this is my recommendation. Take whatever tax cut you get from it, find the richest person you know, and give it to them, so they can make jobs.
Do you know the difference between a tax credit and a tax cut?
Tax credits and other jimmying of the system to benefit favored constituencies aren't rate cuts.
Blatant lying is a really poor way to get your point across.
Right. Having to pay less taxes isn't a tax cut. Got it.
