Ravi
Diamond Member
I guess Medicare is also unconstitutional.So I guess the court ruling on Obamacare will kill privitization of SS as well then.
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I guess Medicare is also unconstitutional.So I guess the court ruling on Obamacare will kill privitization of SS as well then.
If some asshole from your state goes to Texas and goes to the emergency room, Texas taxpayers get screwed.
What's the problem?
Awesome! Thanks for backing up my point so eloquently!
Your point is as sharp as a bowling ball.
I thought this was obvious, but some apparently don't realize that a federal mandate requiring individuals to purchase health insurance is not only precedent setting, but completely blows out of the water the long established precedent that only state and local governments have that type of authority. You might think that it's no big deal to give this authority to the federal government too, but that's because you're stupid.
Your point is as sharp as a bowling ball.
More insults that are bereft of anything resembling an actual argument. Brilliant!
Arguments are not required to refute horseshit.
More insults that are bereft of anything resembling an actual argument. Brilliant!
Arguments are not required to refute horseshit.
Now you're out of bullets and just throwing the gun. How sad...
Arguments are not required to refute horseshit.
Now you're out of bullets and just throwing the gun. How sad...
Interesting that you would use such a violent analogy.
Hypocrite much?
The mandate is not a civil rights infringement.
The mandate is not a civil rights infringement.
Funny you say that now, trying to argue against my point. Which was actually more a question than a point.
Why then did you thank Modbert for saying this?
The right way is to argue that it violates someone's civil liberties.
I'm still looking for clear explanation as to how the mandate can be a civil rights violation at the federal level,
but not at the state level.
Can anyone give me some examples of where states are allowed to pass laws that violate federally protected civil rights???
Sure, you can avoid it by not being employed.The more I think about it, perhaps it is a straight up civil rights violation (as well as Romneycare in MA).
Sure there are existing examples of states imposing other mandates, such as seat-belt laws and auto insurance. However, theoretically at least, those mandates can be avoided by not using an automobile. The Obamacare and Romneycare mandates cannot be avoided while remaining a resident. These mandates apply to everyone simply by virtue of their being. hmmm...
Sure, you can avoid it by not being employed.
Isn't it the law of the land that hospitals must treat patients for emergency care?
It's very relevant.Sure, you can avoid it by not being employed.
That ranks up in the top three most idiotic liberal arguments of all time. Next you'll tell us you can avoid taxes on food by not eating.
Isn't it the law of the land that hospitals must treat patients for emergency care?
I'll bet you imagine that's relevant somehow.
It's very relevant.Isn't it the law of the land that hospitals must treat patients for emergency care?
I'll bet you imagine that's relevant somehow.
Because taxpayers pay for the uninsured. Therefore there is nothing constitutional against imposing a tax penalty on the uninsured to pay back the taxpayers.It's very relevant.I'll bet you imagine that's relevant somehow.
How?
Because taxpayers pay for the uninsured. Therefore there is nothing constitutional against imposing a tax penalty on the uninsured to pay back the taxpayers.It's very relevant.
How?
And my other point was just as valid as manifold's. You can choose to go through life without a car and you can choose to go through life without a job. Be a shareholder. Play the market, etc.