Obamacare Kicking In (And The People Like It So Far!!)

[Amelia]

Obamacare = cauldron of unintended consequences

The SCOTUS ruling on it cannot come too soon.

And you have based this assertion on.........

If you have to ask you wouldn't be able to appreciate the answer.

 

[RDD_1210]

I dont know enough about a public option to say yes or no to it. I dont like universal healthcare as it is run by the government and politics will get in the way of efficiency.

Besides...government pays 700 for a hammer and invests a half a billion dollars in a company that its own analysts say will be drained of cash by the exact date it was drained of cash.

Sure the government is wildly inefficient, but I'd take that over a company who is setup to make a profit and the expense of peoples health.

Look up the public option. I liked it because it would introduced REAL competition in to the marketplace. And it would have allowed for people to choose if they wanted a private or government run plan. Choice....what you guys love.

Nominees for most ridiculous post of the month:
The one I am repling to.

Sure the government is wildly inefficient, but I'd take that over a company who is setup to make a profit and the expense of peoples health.

The difference between a company that operats on a profit and the government
If a company doesn't make a profit they will shut down
If the government runs short of money they raise taxes.
If the company that needs a profit no longer exist all that will be left is the government.
Damn your fucking stupid.

I'm honored. Thank you for the recognition.

I'm especially touched that someone obviously as educated such as yourself takes the time to critique my post with a beautifully thought out response.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Sure the government is wildly inefficient, but I'd take that over a company who is setup to make a profit and the expense of peoples health.

Look up the public option. I liked it because it would introduced REAL competition in to the marketplace. And it would have allowed for people to choose if they wanted a private or government run plan. Choice....what you guys love.

Nominees for most ridiculous post of the month:
The one I am repling to.

Sure the government is wildly inefficient, but I'd take that over a company who is setup to make a profit and the expense of peoples health.

The difference between a company that operats on a profit and the government
If a company doesn't make a profit they will shut down
If the government runs short of money they raise taxes.
If the company that needs a profit no longer exist all that will be left is the government.
Damn your fucking stupid.

I'm honored. Thank you for the recognition.

I'm especially touched that someone obviously as educated such as yourself takes the time to critique my post with a beautifully thought out response.

if spelling is all you have to talk about I guess you have nothing to talk about. Your argument is dead in the water.

 

[RDD_1210]

Nominees for most ridiculous post of the month:
The one I am repling to.



The difference between a company that operats on a profit and the government
If a company doesn't make a profit they will shut down
If the government runs short of money they raise taxes.
If the company that needs a profit no longer exist all that will be left is the government.
Damn your fucking stupid.

I'm honored. Thank you for the recognition.

I'm especially touched that someone obviously as educated such as yourself takes the time to critique my post with a beautifully thought out response.

if spelling is all you have to talk about I guess you have nothing to talk about. Your argument is dead in the water.

My argument was made in countless posts throughout this thread. I noticed you didn't reply to any of those posts.

 

[Liberty]

the government can kiss my ass i am not buying insurance unless I can afford it.

So do you not have health insurance now?

gee, how did you figure that out?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I'm honored. Thank you for the recognition.

I'm especially touched that someone obviously as educated such as yourself takes the time to critique my post with a beautifully thought out response.

if spelling is all you have to talk about I guess you have nothing to talk about. Your argument is dead in the water.

My argument was made in countless posts throughout this thread. I noticed you didn't reply to any of those posts.

No you lost tat argument when you posted this

Sure the government is wildly inefficient, but I'd take that over a company who is setup to make a profit and the expense of peoples health.

holy shit idiot pull your fucking head out of obama's ass for a second to comprehend what you posted. You know the government is a fuck up but yet you still think they should be in charge of your healthcare? Just as long as those "EVIL" profiteers don't have anything to do with you.
WAKE THE FUCK UP

 

[Cuyo]

Obamacare = cauldron of unintended consequences

The SCOTUS ruling on it cannot come too soon.

And you have based this assertion on.........

If you have to ask you wouldn't be able to appreciate the answer.

You can give it a try. I can't possibly appreciate it any less than the non-answer.

 

[Rozman]

That's great ain't it. Adults a few years short of 30 can depend on mommy and daddy for health insurance. What happens when they grow up?

What happens when they grow up?

They become Democrats and bitch and moan that they don't have anything and want government to get them more free stuff.

 

[The Infidel]

And you should know. You're too much of a pussy to debate me in public so you chose to "neg" me for my OP in private instead. And for what? Just because I started a thread that you diagreed with? Well you can KMA pussy.

.

You stupid ass.... here is what I said in private "any 26 yr old on mommies insurance is a FUCKING PUSSY"

How does that differ with what I said in "public"?

hey...my kid had his own insurance when he was 22....but when the law was passed what were we supposed to do? Stand on ceremonies and make him keep on paying 4000 a year or have him not renew his policy and put him back on mine for free?

He is not a pussy.....we are smart people...if my tax dollars are going to pay for a law....even if I disagree with the law, I may as well capitalize on it....if it is going to cost me, I want to save from it as much as it allows.

But my son is by no means a pussy. The kid started working at the age of 14...he knew how to bank up sheetrock SOLO by the age of 16...and he can take apart and put together any combustible engine....given the time to do so.

Look... no disrespect was intended towards you or your son, but answer me this....

Why cut them off at 26? Why not forever???

I mean come on man.... I get your point though. I really do.





As for DaGoo, screw you ya dummy.... Im sick of all your homo-erotic requests you faggot!

 

[Flopper]

That's great ain't it. Adults a few years short of 30 can depend on mommy and daddy for health insurance. What happens when they grow up?

the law will say they must buy something they very well may not be able to afford...nor may never need.

My 24 year old son ius back on our policy....but in the meantime, he has never made a claim on his original policy...other than for his annuals.....but that should never be part of insurance anyway....for insurance ius INSURANCE.....for the unexpected....

Instead, my son was paying $4000 a year to cover his $300 annual visit.

Three years ago my neighbor's son was a healthy young 22 year old with no need for health insurance, at least not until he slipped on a roof and suffered a brain injury and was paralyzed. His parents declared bankruptcy last year. Now you and I are paying his Medical bills thru Medicaid and will the rest of his life because he was a young healthy 22 year old with no need for health insurance.

 

[Flopper]

We have vision, no dental though. We're also 29, 26, and 27, respectively. But 2 smoke and the third has a family history of skin cancer.

I personally was shocked at how low the price was and just how comprehensive the plan is. Better by miles than my girlfriend gets from a HUGE group rate through her job at a major department store. Cheaper too.

FYI it is through Geisinger, I don't know if they offer wherever you're at but it might be worth looking at. The big names, Aetna, blue cross, amerihealth, etc, were marginally more expensive, but nowhere near what you and Jarhead's son are paying.

what is your deductible?
Also...my son had a very comprehensive plan with no deductible and minimal co-pay It was through his company...and althoiugh they paid about 50% of the premium, he had only one choice...take their plan or not.

$500 in network, $1000 non-network. PCP $20, Specialist $40, ER $75.

I've never even heard of a plan with zero deductible, that's probably a big part of the cost right there.

FWIW I pay half as the employer as well, and Obama's tax credit helped tremendously in making this plausible.

Zero deductibles were very common with HMOs until a few years ago.

 

[bassho]

What's that old saying, "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is." Wait till the bill comes in for all of the freebies.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

That's great ain't it. Adults a few years short of 30 can depend on mommy and daddy for health insurance. What happens when they grow up?

the law will say they must buy something they very well may not be able to afford...nor may never need.

My 24 year old son ius back on our policy....but in the meantime, he has never made a claim on his original policy...other than for his annuals.....but that should never be part of insurance anyway....for insurance ius INSURANCE.....for the unexpected....

Instead, my son was paying $4000 a year to cover his $300 annual visit.

Three years ago my neighbor's son was a healthy young 22 year old with no need for health insurance, at least not until he slipped on a roof and suffered a brain injury and was paralyzed. His parents declared bankruptcy last year. Now you and I are paying his Medical bills thru Medicaid and will the rest of his life because he was a young healthy 22 year old with no need for health insurance.

With obamacare you will still be paying for his care so whats the difference?

 

[RDD_1210]

if spelling is all you have to talk about I guess you have nothing to talk about. Your argument is dead in the water.

My argument was made in countless posts throughout this thread. I noticed you didn't reply to any of those posts.

No you lost tat argument when you posted this

Sure the government is wildly inefficient, but I'd take that over a company who is setup to make a profit and the expense of peoples health.

holy shit idiot pull your fucking head out of obama's ass for a second to comprehend what you posted. You know the government is a fuck up but yet you still think they should be in charge of your healthcare? Just as long as those "EVIL" profiteers don't have anything to do with you.
WAKE THE FUCK UP

Yup. Thanks for rephrasing what I said. Gold star for you.

 

[DaGoose]

if spelling is all you have to talk about I guess you have nothing to talk about. Your argument is dead in the water.

My argument was made in countless posts throughout this thread. I noticed you didn't reply to any of those posts.

No you lost tat argument when you posted this

Sure the government is wildly inefficient, but I'd take that over a company who is setup to make a profit and the expense of peoples health.

holy shit idiot pull your fucking head out of obama's ass for a second to comprehend what you posted. You know the government is a fuck up but yet you still think they should be in charge of your healthcare? Just as long as those "EVIL" profiteers don't have anything to do with you.
WAKE THE FUCK UP

I've never heard of Medicare saying that they won't pay for a needed operation. Or refuse someone due to a pre-existing condition. Or kick some out because they suddenly developed a serious disease. Or skyrocket someone's premiums. Or put a limit someone's nursing home care due to inability to pay.

You're childlike trust and belief that insurance companies only look out for your best interests and really care about you is frightening.

.

 

[Flopper]

the law will say they must buy something they very well may not be able to afford...nor may never need.

My 24 year old son ius back on our policy....but in the meantime, he has never made a claim on his original policy...other than for his annuals.....but that should never be part of insurance anyway....for insurance ius INSURANCE.....for the unexpected....

Instead, my son was paying $4000 a year to cover his $300 annual visit.

Three years ago my neighbor's son was a healthy young 22 year old with no need for health insurance, at least not until he slipped on a roof and suffered a brain injury and was paralyzed. His parents declared bankruptcy last year. Now you and I are paying his Medical bills thru Medicaid and will the rest of his life because he was a young healthy 22 year old with no need for health insurance.

With obamacare you will still be paying for his care so whats the difference?

Under Obamacare, he would have been required to carry insurance.

 

[logical4u]

People always like the "free trials/samples". When they find out what it really costs, they try to ditch it, but with "free trials/samples", there is always a hook. Once it is started, it is very hard to stop. So will Obamacare, that is more about controlling the population, than keeping people "healthy".

 

[Flopper]

People always like the "free trials/samples". When they find out what it really costs, they try to ditch it, but with "free trials/samples", there is always a hook. Once it is started, it is very hard to stop. So will Obamacare, that is more about controlling the population, than keeping people "healthy".

controlling the population??

 

[Cuyo]

What's that old saying, "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is." Wait till the bill comes in for all of the freebies.

But that's the thing - It doesn't 'sound too good to be true.' It 'sounds like' sensible regulatory reform - Because that's really all it is; Nothing less, nothing more - Sensible, politically moderate regulatory reform.

I constantly hear cons talking about how people love the freebies. What freebies do you think there are? I think the eligibility criteria for Medicaid was slightly relaxed, but besides that?

Judging from the responses, I often wonder if half you really understand what "Obamacare" is, or if you just hate it because you've heard a strong message that you're 'supposed' to hate it.

 

[Cuyo]

People always like the "free trials/samples". When they find out what it really costs, they try to ditch it, but with "free trials/samples", there is always a hook. Once it is started, it is very hard to stop. So will Obamacare, that is more about controlling the population, than keeping people "healthy".

controlling the population??

Yeah, I'm not sure I'm seeing the dots connected between the beginning of that post and the end...