Obamacare Kicking In (And The People Like It So Far!!)

[driveby]

Survey: Significant drop in uninsured young adults

The number of young adults without health insurance has dropped significantly, a new survey finds, thanks to a provision of President Barack Obama's health care law allowing them to stay on their parents' plans.

The new Gallup poll findings translate to about 1 million more young adults with health insurance.

.....coverage for young adults has proven to be a popular and relatively low-cost benefit that families were eager to sign up for in these days of prolonged school-to-work transitions.

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DaGoose.....

I know you are smarter than that.

No, he isn't.....

 

[RDD_1210]

Survey: Significant drop in uninsured young adults





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DaGoose.....

I know you are smarter than that.

No, he isn't.....

That was pretty witty. Good thing you decided to make your first appearance in this thread with that amazingly insightful post.

 

[Jarhead]

That is AWFULLY high. I pay $5088.00 for a very comprehensive plan for myself AND two other employees combined...

I pay $3776.64 a year for my medical,dental and vision plan through Blue cross blue shield federal employee program, but it will go even higher after I add the new wifey on it.
I even pay for other people SSI and Medicare also "I say other peoples because it's sure as hell not going into a health savings account for me, it's being used right now as soon as it's taken from my check" , so if you add that in, it's even more. It's gonna suck to not get a return on my SSI investment, that shit will be gone by the time I could use it.

We have vision, no dental though. We're also 29, 26, and 27, respectively. But 2 smoke and the third has a family history of skin cancer.

I personally was shocked at how low the price was and just how comprehensive the plan is. Better by miles than my girlfriend gets from a HUGE group rate through her job at a major department store. Cheaper too.

FYI it is through Geisinger, I don't know if they offer wherever you're at but it might be worth looking at. The big names, Aetna, blue cross, amerihealth, etc, were marginally more expensive, but nowhere near what you and Jarhead's son are paying.

what is your deductible?
Also...my son had a very comprehensive plan with no deductible and minimal co-pay It was through his company...and althoiugh they paid about 50% of the premium, he had only one choice...take their plan or not.

 

[Jarhead]

I am only going based upon what you've said. If you tell me you don't want to help pay a single cent for anyones healthcare then I will have to assume thats what you mean.

I guess the difference is I want to live in a society where we don't have to fear getting sick because of not only the disease itself but if it will wipe us out financially.

you know...an earthquake can wipe you out fianncially as well....especially if you dont have the appropriate insurance....like "act of God" provisions.

Just sayin'

Thats my point! I and many others HAVE the proper insurance and we're STILL going bankrupt because of medical bills.

i understand and feel your pain.

But my point is...whats next?

How many more FEMA bailouts until we are told we MUST by law purchase flood insurance...whether you rent or own YOU MUST PURCHSE FLOOD INSURANCE. It is against the law for anyone at any age to live anywhere without having flood insurance.

You do realize...this law opens the door to that as well.

 

[RDD_1210]

you know...an earthquake can wipe you out fianncially as well....especially if you dont have the appropriate insurance....like "act of God" provisions.

Just sayin'

Thats my point! I and many others HAVE the proper insurance and we're STILL going bankrupt because of medical bills.

i understand and feel your pain.

But my point is...whats next?

How many more FEMA bailouts until we are told we MUST by law purchase flood insurance...whether you rent or own YOU MUST PURCHSE FLOOD INSURANCE. It is against the law for anyone at any age to live anywhere without having flood insurance.

You do realize...this law opens the door to that as well.

Perhaps it does. Does that mean you support something like the public option? Or *gasp* universal health care? Since your main hold up seems to be the mandate, either of those options would eliminate that worry for you and would actually be more effective at controlling costs.

I get that you don't like the mandate, but you can't just ignore the problem because you don't like one aspect of the bill, as major an aspect as you believe it to be. We NEEDED to come up with some sort of solution and this, unfortunately, is what we ended up with.

 

[Jarhead]

Thats my point! I and many others HAVE the proper insurance and we're STILL going bankrupt because of medical bills.

i understand and feel your pain.

But my point is...whats next?

How many more FEMA bailouts until we are told we MUST by law purchase flood insurance...whether you rent or own YOU MUST PURCHSE FLOOD INSURANCE. It is against the law for anyone at any age to live anywhere without having flood insurance.

You do realize...this law opens the door to that as well.

Perhaps it does. Does that mean you support something like the public option? Or *gasp* universal health care? Since your main hold up seems to be the mandate, either of those options would eliminate that worry for you and would actually be more effective at controlling costs.

I get that you don't like the mandate, but you can't just ignore the problem because you don't like one aspect of the bill, as major an aspect as you believe it to be. We NEEDED to come up with some sort of solution and this, unfortunately, is what we ended up with.

I dont know enough about a public option to say yes or no to it. I dont like universal healthcare as it is run by the government and politics will get in the way of efficiency.

Besides...government pays 700 for a hammer and invests a half a billion dollars in a company that its own analysts say will be drained of cash by the exact date it was drained of cash.

 

[RDD_1210]

i understand and feel your pain.

But my point is...whats next?

How many more FEMA bailouts until we are told we MUST by law purchase flood insurance...whether you rent or own YOU MUST PURCHSE FLOOD INSURANCE. It is against the law for anyone at any age to live anywhere without having flood insurance.

You do realize...this law opens the door to that as well.

Perhaps it does. Does that mean you support something like the public option? Or *gasp* universal health care? Since your main hold up seems to be the mandate, either of those options would eliminate that worry for you and would actually be more effective at controlling costs.

I get that you don't like the mandate, but you can't just ignore the problem because you don't like one aspect of the bill, as major an aspect as you believe it to be. We NEEDED to come up with some sort of solution and this, unfortunately, is what we ended up with.

I dont know enough about a public option to say yes or no to it. I dont like universal healthcare as it is run by the government and politics will get in the way of efficiency.

Besides...government pays 700 for a hammer and invests a half a billion dollars in a company that its own analysts say will be drained of cash by the exact date it was drained of cash.

Sure the government is wildly inefficient, but I'd take that over a company who is setup to make a profit and the expense of peoples health.

Look up the public option. I liked it because it would introduced REAL competition in to the marketplace. And it would have allowed for people to choose if they wanted a private or government run plan. Choice....what you guys love.

 

[Claudette]

Thanks for a great discussion RD.

Nice to have a discussion with someone who doesn't call you fucking stupid or a fucking idiot. LOL

We don't agree my friend but I respect your opinion and your right to that opinion.

Have a great rest of the day.

 

[RDD_1210]

Thanks for a great discussion RD.

Nice to have a discussion with someone who doesn't call you fucking stupid or a fucking idiot. LOL

We don't agree my friend but I respect your opinion and your right to that opinion.

Have a great rest of the day.

Haha, likewise.

 

[Jarhead]

Thanks for a great discussion RD.

Nice to have a discussion with someone who doesn't call you fucking stupid or a fucking idiot. LOL

We don't agree my friend but I respect your opinion and your right to that opinion.

Have a great rest of the day.

Haha, likewise.

well...you are still ugly and a stupid head.

 

[RDD_1210]

Thanks for a great discussion RD.

Nice to have a discussion with someone who doesn't call you fucking stupid or a fucking idiot. LOL

We don't agree my friend but I respect your opinion and your right to that opinion.

Have a great rest of the day.

Haha, likewise.

well...you are still ugly and a stupid head.

I can't deny that.

 

[Cuyo]

I pay $3776.64 a year for my medical,dental and vision plan through Blue cross blue shield federal employee program, but it will go even higher after I add the new wifey on it.
I even pay for other people SSI and Medicare also "I say other peoples because it's sure as hell not going into a health savings account for me, it's being used right now as soon as it's taken from my check" , so if you add that in, it's even more. It's gonna suck to not get a return on my SSI investment, that shit will be gone by the time I could use it.

We have vision, no dental though. We're also 29, 26, and 27, respectively. But 2 smoke and the third has a family history of skin cancer.

I personally was shocked at how low the price was and just how comprehensive the plan is. Better by miles than my girlfriend gets from a HUGE group rate through her job at a major department store. Cheaper too.

FYI it is through Geisinger, I don't know if they offer wherever you're at but it might be worth looking at. The big names, Aetna, blue cross, amerihealth, etc, were marginally more expensive, but nowhere near what you and Jarhead's son are paying.

what is your deductible?
Also...my son had a very comprehensive plan with no deductible and minimal co-pay It was through his company...and althoiugh they paid about 50% of the premium, he had only one choice...take their plan or not.

$500 in network, $1000 non-network. PCP $20, Specialist $40, ER $75.

I've never even heard of a plan with zero deductible, that's probably a big part of the cost right there.

FWIW I pay half as the employer as well, and Obama's tax credit helped tremendously in making this plausible.

 

[Cuyo]

Perhaps it does. Does that mean you support something like the public option? Or *gasp* universal health care? Since your main hold up seems to be the mandate, either of those options would eliminate that worry for you and would actually be more effective at controlling costs.

I get that you don't like the mandate, but you can't just ignore the problem because you don't like one aspect of the bill, as major an aspect as you believe it to be. We NEEDED to come up with some sort of solution and this, unfortunately, is what we ended up with.

I dont know enough about a public option to say yes or no to it. I dont like universal healthcare as it is run by the government and politics will get in the way of efficiency.

Besides...government pays 700 for a hammer and invests a half a billion dollars in a company that its own analysts say will be drained of cash by the exact date it was drained of cash.

Sure the government is wildly inefficient, but I'd take that over a company who is setup to make a profit and the expense of peoples health.

Look up the public option. I liked it because it would introduced REAL competition in to the marketplace. And it would have allowed for people to choose if they wanted a private or government run plan. Choice....what you guys love.

I don't agree that the government is as inefficient as people say.

But you hit it right on the head - Efficiency is not the issue here. The issue is that private insurers make more money - They make MORE MONEY! - By intentionally finding ways not to do what they said they were going to do.

Inefficient? Beats an extremely efficient machine that screws you by design!

 

[driveby]

DaGoose.....

I know you are smarter than that.

No, he isn't.....

That was pretty witty. Good thing you decided to make your first appearance in this thread with that amazingly insightful post.

Thanks, i'll be here all week, be sure to tip your waitress......

 

[iamwhatiseem]

New survey just released....

People are happy to get unemployment for 2 years ongoing....
People are happy in getting more back from the IRS than they gave in...
People are happy to get grants to pay for college for 4 years, including room and board even if they didn't graduate high school...

.... In other news...the nations debt will be $15 Trillion by years end.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Perhaps it does. Does that mean you support something like the public option? Or *gasp* universal health care? Since your main hold up seems to be the mandate, either of those options would eliminate that worry for you and would actually be more effective at controlling costs.

I get that you don't like the mandate, but you can't just ignore the problem because you don't like one aspect of the bill, as major an aspect as you believe it to be. We NEEDED to come up with some sort of solution and this, unfortunately, is what we ended up with.

I dont know enough about a public option to say yes or no to it. I dont like universal healthcare as it is run by the government and politics will get in the way of efficiency.

Besides...government pays 700 for a hammer and invests a half a billion dollars in a company that its own analysts say will be drained of cash by the exact date it was drained of cash.

Sure the government is wildly inefficient, but I'd take that over a company who is setup to make a profit and the expense of peoples health.

Look up the public option. I liked it because it would introduced REAL competition in to the marketplace. And it would have allowed for people to choose if they wanted a private or government run plan. Choice....what you guys love.

Nominees for most ridiculous post of the month:
The one I am repling to.

Sure the government is wildly inefficient, but I'd take that over a company who is setup to make a profit and the expense of peoples health.

The difference between a company that operats on a profit and the government
If a company doesn't make a profit they will shut down
If the government runs short of money they raise taxes.
If the company that needs a profit no longer exist all that will be left is the government.
Damn your fucking stupid.

 

[Amelia]

Obamacare = cauldron of unintended consequences

The SCOTUS ruling on it cannot come too soon.

 

[blu]

I just dont get why people wont go for single payer. we are already paying for other people's health care as well as lining the pockets of insurance companies unnecesarily. simply get rid of insurance companies and put all payments towards treatments and care.

would also get rid of corporate health insurance polciies which is just a backdoor way of scaring people from starting their own business since individual poliies are so ridiculous

 

[Cuyo]

Obamacare = cauldron of unintended consequences

The SCOTUS ruling on it cannot come too soon.

And you have based this assertion on.........

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I just dont get why people wont go for single payer. we are already paying for other people's health care as well as lining the pockets of insurance companies unnecesarily. simply get rid of insurance companies and put all payments towards treatments and care.

would also get rid of corporate health insurance polciies which is just a backdoor way of scaring people from starting their own business since individual poliies are so ridiculous

The insurence company's need that extra money to line the pockets of politicans.