Nurses at 34 Calif. Hospitals to Strike Thursday

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    Nurses at 34 Calif. Hospitals to Strike Thursday



    Kaiser Permanente Nurses at 34 Calif. Hospitals to Strike Thursday - ABC News

    Hospitals state they want to keep costs down for patients...
     
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    The average operating margin for hospitals within the USA is 2.56 (2008). This is a very difficult business. The best and the brightest struggle to maintain existence.

    I respect care providers. But I find the CA labor union tactics to be indefensible.

    Former CA hospital manager,
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    Kaiser nurses are walking off as 'sympathy' support.

    Here is another strike:
    Ralphs, Albertsons Supermarkets Could Close if Grocery Workers Strike - ABC News

    The "Big Three" Southern California grocery chains are bracing for a strike and possible shut down after the union representing grocery workers canceled their contract with the stores.

    There is also a city employee strike not too far from me.

    Guess what all three of them have in common?
     
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    The agency nurses that will replace the strikers have a contract that states that they will be employed a certain number of days before the employee nurses are allowed back on the job. I don't know the California situation specifically, but there is no longer a nationwide nursing shortage. The down economy has affected the health care industry as well, and the employers have the upper hand. Employees in most occupations need to tread lightly when making demands.
     
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    If you could provide more information and a link, I would be grateful.
     
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    Aren't those on the left blaming "the profit motive" for all the problems in healthcare?
     
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    Sure thing.

    American Hospital Association aggregate margins table. The table reflects a scrubbed figure of 3.3 in 2008, so I stand corrected.

    http://www.aha.org/research/reports/tw/chartbook/2011/table4-1.pdf

    Operating margin definition:

    The hospital equation is operating revenue minus operating cost divided by operating revenue. The quotient tells us how many dollars are made (before taxes and interest) for every dollar brought in. In healthcare settings, there is not alot of room of error.

    When the California nursing ratios which were fully implemented in 2005, severly taxed resources to enforce implementation and still do today. Compliance is nearly impossible to ensure.

    Does Mandating Nurse-Patient Ratios Improve Care?

    The nursing ratios contributed greatly to operating margins having dipped to negative numbers and have withstood the decline for five years. Today, recovery is on the horizon. However much needed repairs and equipment investments have been dangerously ignored.

    http://www.shepscenter.unc.edu/rural/pubs/other/Primer.pdf

    Hope this helps.
     
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    What are their demands?
     
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    Ironically they do not want to pay more for Health Care Insurance premiums and apparently the hospitals are paying less to new hires.
     

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