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Maybe you need some political hack to care about you, but I don't. I will have less freedom when I have less money and I am going to have less money and worse health care because of this health care "crisis" that wasn't there.
You don't get it, nitwit.
Jeez, I said I was sorry, don't need to fly off the handle like that. BTW, did you know Andrew Jackson is most often credited as the founder of the modern Democratic party?
I didn't "fly off the handle". Just explaining things to ya.
Andrew Jackson was a real Democrat. These pusillanimous pissant prarie punks running our country are not real Democrats.
Those work well on nice flat rivers. Now, if we could just get the ocean to stay flat....
...............waiting for it
Not to change the subject, but Obama did say other things. He telegraphed his boastful directive to be delivered to BP....like he has the constitutional authority to make BP do a damn thing. Shrimpers are not the only ones laughing their asses off.
Obama is using this crisis to expand government, obligate more taxes to the paying of federal wages, create more red tape and inefficient management of resources, further stifle the US production of oil with inane environmentalist concerns and continue on his Marxist path toward total ruination of the present American way of life.
IF I were BP and Obama came to me and told me I had to create an escrow account I'd give him a check for the $75M , the federally mandated cap, and turn the entire mess over to him.
Every time BO has an agenda it costs us more in money and loss of freedom. It sounds good and some people jump on his bandwagon, but we all know it is going to cost us plenty.
I'm feeling like we are watching a movie. This guy is not the real President. He's an actor playing a part. He instills absolutely no confidence. He hasn't got a clue except for his agenda and he will use any crisis to push his agenda. The "health crisis" for instance. That was all we heard during the debate. Now we hear nothing about a health crisis. If there is such a health crisis then why do we have to wait 4 years to implement this mess?
All of you BO supporters are nuts. Thank God he will be neutered this fall and he will be out in 2 more years.
I'm in a calm and altruistic mood tonight, so I will help you out, and I won't even call you a dimwit.
1. You have not lost any freedoms. Your taxes have stayed exactly the same or went down.
2. Certain aspects of the HCR are immediate, some are phased in over time. Take it to the healthcare forum.
3. If history is any lesson, the Republicans (who I assure you, give far less a fuck about you than Obama does) will win back some seats. They are not slated to win any majorities.
4. You're a dimwit GOD DAMN IT I did it again. Sorry about that.
1. flat lie, maybe income taxes haven't went up but other taxes have
2. You're correct, not the right forum but no benefits will be seen for 4 years
3. You are mistaken if you think ANY politician cares about you at all
4. Probably can't argue with you there
Those work well on nice flat rivers. Now, if we could just get the ocean to stay flat....
Not to change the subject, but Obama did say other things. He telegraphed his boastful directive to be delivered to BP....like he has the constitutional authority to make BP do a damn thing. Shrimpers are not the only ones laughing their asses off.
Obama is using this crisis to expand government, obligate more taxes to the paying of federal wages, create more red tape and inefficient management of resources, further stifle the US production of oil with inane environmentalist concerns and continue on his Marxist path toward total ruination of the present American way of life.
IF I were BP and Obama came to me and told me I had to create an escrow account I'd give him a check for the $75M , the federally mandated cap, and turn the entire mess over to him.
Yep.. and let him spend all 75 million suing me.
private industry will naturally work harded on finding an alternative to petroleum based propulsion when it becomes more economically advantageous to do so. If gas is at $6/gal, then a lot more alternatives become economically viable... and once they do, economies of scale will naturally bring down the cost of those alternatives even further.
They come economically feasible for who? The guy who is making $10/hr and driving a 10 year old car b/c that's the best he can afford while raising a family so he's stuck paying $6/GAL for gas while the rich toodle around feeling smug in their battery powered jet packs? What about that guy? FUCK HIM??? I though yall were the party of compassion?
IDOTS
are you really suggesting that gasoline at $8/gal does not make other energy sources more economically feasible? And do you not believe that, if a technology can become economically feasible at some marginal volume of production, that it cannot and will not become more affordable with the economies of scale kicking in with larger production?
They come economically feasible for who? The guy who is making $10/hr and driving a 10 year old car b/c that's the best he can afford while raising a family so he's stuck paying $6/GAL for gas while the rich toodle around feeling smug in their battery powered jet packs? What about that guy? FUCK HIM??? I though yall were the party of compassion?
IDOTS
I have to quote this because you misspelled idiots.
But I might as well respond.
There are other sides to this than raising the price at the gas pump, which naturally fluctuates anyways. Investment in R&D is another side; as the technology becomes more efficient, as more of those "rich toodles" invest in these technologies, and other toodles use these technologies, then they would become cheaper than fossil fuels over the long term.
Long-term transition, not a short-term false dichotomy.
I think that private investment will continue to increase if the market gets clear signals of commitment from the government.
oops type, and a pet peeve of mine to.
But to address the real issue of your post. You really don't think the automakers are dumping HUGE sums of money into this already and that bankrupting Americans through gas taxes is the only way to make it happen? What good does a water powered car in 10 years do ANYONE if 90% of American can't afford to buy one because they have been bankrupted by an insane taxing structure on gasoline?
I have to quote this because you misspelled idiots.
But I might as well respond.
There are other sides to this than raising the price at the gas pump, which naturally fluctuates anyways. Investment in R&D is another side; as the technology becomes more efficient, as more of those "rich toodles" invest in these technologies, and other toodles use these technologies, then they would become cheaper than fossil fuels over the long term.
Long-term transition, not a short-term false dichotomy.
I think that private investment will continue to increase if the market gets clear signals of commitment from the government.
oops type, and a pet peeve of mine to.
But to address the real issue of your post. You really don't think the automakers are dumping HUGE sums of money into this already and that bankrupting Americans through gas taxes is the only way to make it happen? What good does a water powered car in 10 years do ANYONE if 90% of American can't afford to buy one because they have been bankrupted by an insane taxing structure on gasoline?
I see your point.
This talk about wind-powered cars is fun and all, but alternatives are mainly focused on energy infrastructure in the long term, with transportation being secondary.
Will energy prices increase relative to income in the long term? Yeah, I think so, regardless of whether we stick with fossil fuels or go to alternatives.
They come economically feasible for who? The guy who is making $10/hr and driving a 10 year old car b/c that's the best he can afford while raising a family so he's stuck paying $6/GAL for gas while the rich toodle around feeling smug in their battery powered jet packs? What about that guy? FUCK HIM??? I though yall were the party of compassion?
IDOTS
are you really suggesting that gasoline at $8/gal does not make other energy sources more economically feasible? And do you not believe that, if a technology can become economically feasible at some marginal volume of production, that it cannot and will not become more affordable with the economies of scale kicking in with larger production?
why don't we make all rich demonRats put their money where their mouffs are and pay 40 bucks a gallon and leave the poor white people alone?
oops type, and a pet peeve of mine to.
But to address the real issue of your post. You really don't think the automakers are dumping HUGE sums of money into this already and that bankrupting Americans through gas taxes is the only way to make it happen? What good does a water powered car in 10 years do ANYONE if 90% of American can't afford to buy one because they have been bankrupted by an insane taxing structure on gasoline?
I see your point.
This talk about wind-powered cars is fun and all, but alternatives are mainly focused on energy infrastructure in the long term, with transportation being secondary.
Will energy prices increase relative to income in the long term? Yeah, I think so, regardless of whether we stick with fossil fuels or go to alternatives.
Not eternally. Once fusion power comes to fruition, I think we're going to see some significant price drops, and a hindrance on innovation lifted beyond our wildest dreams...
ITER - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It's a damn good read, I actually read it a few years ago, it may have progressed further by now. If you are particularly into this sort of thing, be ready for a hour-plus wiki session following links, etc. Stuff like this blows my mind, I don't understand why they don't shift resources and get it done a whole lot faster.
I see your point.
This talk about wind-powered cars is fun and all, but alternatives are mainly focused on energy infrastructure in the long term, with transportation being secondary.
Will energy prices increase relative to income in the long term? Yeah, I think so, regardless of whether we stick with fossil fuels or go to alternatives.
Not eternally. Once fusion power comes to fruition, I think we're going to see some significant price drops, and a hindrance on innovation lifted beyond our wildest dreams...
ITER - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It's a damn good read, I actually read it a few years ago, it may have progressed further by now. If you are particularly into this sort of thing, be ready for a hour-plus wiki session following links, etc. Stuff like this blows my mind, I don't understand why they don't shift resources and get it done a whole lot faster.
Ah, cool. I've heard of it, but wasn't aware of the advancements.
There's potential for these technologies, but I think the main obstacle is a lack of political will because of the potential short-term increase in prices for the end consumer. This will probably end up being an all-of-the-above scenario for the next few decades, but there's no doubt in my mind that by the time I'm cruising in a wheelchair with Life Alert around my neck, fossil fuels will be obsolete.
Not eternally. Once fusion power comes to fruition, I think we're going to see some significant price drops, and a hindrance on innovation lifted beyond our wildest dreams...
ITER - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It's a damn good read, I actually read it a few years ago, it may have progressed further by now. If you are particularly into this sort of thing, be ready for a hour-plus wiki session following links, etc. Stuff like this blows my mind, I don't understand why they don't shift resources and get it done a whole lot faster.
Ah, cool. I've heard of it, but wasn't aware of the advancements.
There's potential for these technologies, but I think the main obstacle is a lack of political will because of the potential short-term increase in prices for the end consumer. This will probably end up being an all-of-the-above scenario for the next few decades, but there's no doubt in my mind that by the time I'm cruising in a wheelchair with Life Alert around my neck, fossil fuels will be obsolete.
Man though, ITER's entire budget $5B conservatively, $10B on the high end... 1/200th or 1/100th tops of the military budget for one year in the US. Idk why I even torment myself thinking about that kind of thing though.
Ah, cool. I've heard of it, but wasn't aware of the advancements.
There's potential for these technologies, but I think the main obstacle is a lack of political will because of the potential short-term increase in prices for the end consumer. This will probably end up being an all-of-the-above scenario for the next few decades, but there's no doubt in my mind that by the time I'm cruising in a wheelchair with Life Alert around my neck, fossil fuels will be obsolete.
Man though, ITER's entire budget $5B conservatively, $10B on the high end... 1/200th or 1/100th tops of the military budget for one year in the US. Idk why I even torment myself thinking about that kind of thing though.
This is kind of old news from last year, but China is getting their shit together on that front. They're planning to build 28 additional plants by 2020. Here in the US, I don't think we've built one since the mid-90s
China to Build 28 More Nuclear Power Reactors by 2020 (Update2) - BusinessWeek
Every time BO has an agenda it costs us more in money and loss of freedom. It sounds good and some people jump on his bandwagon, but we all know it is going to cost us plenty.
I'm feeling like we are watching a movie. This guy is not the real President. He's an actor playing a part. He instills absolutely no confidence. He hasn't got a clue except for his agenda and he will use any crisis to push his agenda. The "health crisis" for instance. That was all we heard during the debate. Now we hear nothing about a health crisis. If there is such a health crisis then why do we have to wait 4 years to implement this mess?
All of you BO supporters are nuts. Thank God he will be neutered this fall and he will be out in 2 more years.
I'm in a calm and altruistic mood tonight, so I will help you out, and I won't even call you a dimwit.
1. You have not lost any freedoms. Your taxes have stayed exactly the same or went down.
2. Certain aspects of the HCR are immediate, some are phased in over time. Take it to the healthcare forum.
3. If history is any lesson, the Republicans (who I assure you, give far less a fuck about you than Obama does) will win back some seats. They are not slated to win any majorities.
4. You're a dimwit GOD DAMN IT I did it again. Sorry about that.
We let 3-Mile Island scare us away from nuclear power plants. We'd have been way ahead of this game we're playing with OPEC had we learned from it instead of creating fear in the minds of the public.Ah, cool. I've heard of it, but wasn't aware of the advancements.
There's potential for these technologies, but I think the main obstacle is a lack of political will because of the potential short-term increase in prices for the end consumer. This will probably end up being an all-of-the-above scenario for the next few decades, but there's no doubt in my mind that by the time I'm cruising in a wheelchair with Life Alert around my neck, fossil fuels will be obsolete.
Man though, ITER's entire budget $5B conservatively, $10B on the high end... 1/200th or 1/100th tops of the military budget for one year in the US. Idk why I even torment myself thinking about that kind of thing though.
This is kind of old news from last year, but China is getting their shit together on that front. They're planning to build 28 additional plants by 2020. Here in the US, I don't think we've built one since the mid-90s
China to Build 28 More Nuclear Power Reactors by 2020 (Update2) - BusinessWeek
Oh my God, he is doing it. He's using this oil spill to push Green Energy. God only knows where this is going.
Oh my God, he is doing it. He's using this oil spill to push Green Energy. God only knows where this is going.
Darn it all...just think...without an ecological disaster, there would be no reason to push solutions to ecological disasters.
Nobody said sever oil supply immediately, either. We're discussing a president who wants to shift additional focus to alternatives. Meanwhile you guys try to make it look ridiculous and make fun of his intentions with ridiculous satire like wind powered cars and hang-gliders in place of planes.
Every time BO has an agenda it costs us more in money and loss of freedom. It sounds good and some people jump on his bandwagon, but we all know it is going to cost us plenty.
I'm feeling like we are watching a movie. This guy is not the real President. He's an actor playing a part. He instills absolutely no confidence. He hasn't got a clue except for his agenda and he will use any crisis to push his agenda. The "health crisis" for instance. That was all we heard during the debate. Now we hear nothing about a health crisis. If there is such a health crisis then why do we have to wait 4 years to implement this mess?
All of you BO supporters are nuts. Thank God he will be neutered this fall and he will be out in 2 more years.
I don't think there is a God. If there is he's played a cruel joke on us.
Jeez, I said I was sorry, don't need to fly off the handle like that. BTW, did you know Andrew Jackson is most often credited as the founder of the modern Democratic party?
I didn't "fly off the handle". Just explaining things to ya.
Andrew Jackson was a real Democrat. These pusillanimous pissant prarie punks running our country are not real Democrats.
I agree. They're too moderate, almost like Republicans. The actual Republicans are extreme rightist ideologues. True Democrats? I can think of about 3.
You are a Jackson fan but prefer the contemporary GOP over contemporary Democrats? That's just silly.
