Obama = Reagan. Seriously.

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    Obama isn't weak (he just isn't a liberal) - David Sirota - Salon.com

    The president has the political muscle to enact a progressive agenda, but he doesn't want to

    Good article, worth the read.

    Thoughts?
     
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    He's not weak, he's a Progressive Jihadist. He admitted Social Security was broke, nationalized the auto industry, took control of the banks and the lives of every American through ObamaCare and now he's pushing us off the cliff by bankrupting us.

    He's not Reagan either, Reagan was pro-America and understood American greatness, Obama loathes it.
     
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    To be fair, he inherited quite a mess, but I think comparing him to Carter, FDR, or Reagan is mostly ridiculous, and to a large extent so is the article. He has so much power not because he is so "powerful" or brilliant or a great president, but because he remains popular despite having not earned it. He is a textbook example of being at the right place at the right time and continues to ride that wave.

    PS to answer the obvious and incorrect assumption, no I am not a particularly "right wing" and am no fan of Bush's either. He was a horrible president IMO. I'm just sick of the blinders that so many in BOTH parties seem to simply love to wear.
     
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    If you really believe this, then why aren't you out working for a challenger who is a real democrat? This is clearly NOT what you voted for in 2008. You voted for a guy who was going to end the wars, give us Canada-style health care, close Gitmo, get the world to love us again, and make the rich pay their fair share.

    But if I read your lament here correctly, he's continued all of Bush's policies, or even expanded on them, and you're just dandy with that.

    My complaint with Obama is not a left or right one. I'm right of center on security issues, left of center on social issues and all over the map on economic issues.

    My complaint with Obama is that he is weak. He doesn't lead. he's "No Drama Obama" who lets things play out in Congress with all the sausage-making ugliness.

    For instance, take Health Care. You know what, having been totally screwed by an insurance company trying to get medical treatment (I eventually got the procedure, but they shortly let me go from that job. Oddly, only people who ran up medical bills were in the first line of cuts.) I can totally be sold on his notion of going to a Canada style health care system. Canadians live longer than we do, spend less, have a lower infant mortality rate and cover everyone. There was an argument to be made to adopt their system.

    He didn't make that argument, though. He let all sorts of stuff happen in the house and Senate, he went along with RomneyCare 2.0 in the Senate because after Scott Brown got elected, he knew he couldn't come up with a conference committee version that would survive a filabuster.

    In short, he didn't lead, he got cornered.

    And you could say the same thing about everything else he's done, really. He's gotten rolled or bullied into his final result, he didn't lead anyone there.

    This is why he's the OPPOSITE to Reagan. Reagan led. Reagan got people to go along with him, and even when he made comprimises, he was out front proposing them.
     
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    First he was the next FDR...Then Kennedy....Now Reagan?!?!?

    Well, I guess if I were the first Obama, I'd want to change the subject, too.
     
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    Thoughts ?

    Sure.

    You're an idiot.

    Anything else you need?
     
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    He sure doesnt seem to fight very hard FOR liberal ideals.

    I dont know what he is for sure, it may take hindsight to really know.
     
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    If Obama is "Reaganesque," you must think Carter was "Washingtonesque."

    Moronic...

    Thanks for admiring Reagan, though. There's hope.
     
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    :rofl:

    you're delusional

    whatever political muscle obama had was frittered away on healthcare

    his lack of political muscle is equalled only by his inability to correctly prioritize

    it's the economy, stupid.

    obama = bushIII
     
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    "To be fair, he inherited quite a mess,..."

    I heard Juan Williams say the same thing on Fox this morn...

    and, 'To Be Fair...," it is such a weak pose.

    He inherited nothing. He applied for the job.

    And the Right told all he was not up to the task.
     

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