obama just committed political suicide.

[Claudette]

From what I could decipher, this is the bill that the NRA is referring too:
H.R. 308: Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act (GovTrack.us)


I personally don't have a problem with this bill.

Although if I was one of his advisers I'd be like "hey Barack, let's just stick to the politics of 'jobs jobs jobs'. People got kind of pissed about that whole health insurance thing derail, when jobs were disappearing faster than wine around my family during the holidays."

Political suicide over this? No. His fate is tied to the economy.

I couldn't agree more Sheldon.

OL'BO's future is tied to the economy. If that and jobs improves then he will be re-elected.

If things haven't turned around by 2012 I think Barry Boy will be a one termer.

 

[bodecea]

For those of you who were somehow having wet dreams about another 4 years of obama as president may just have that dream killed if obama does what he says he will do. Any new law or changes made to existing laws will kill his dreams of a second term. I will add remembr what happen with the democrats when they started playing with guns in 1996



Obama To Push Gun Control Soon
NRA-ILA :: Obama To Push Gun Control Soon

I was led to believe that the moment he became President he would take our guns away....I still have mine....so pardon me if I look at your worries sceptically.

 

[bodecea]

*shrug*

I'll believe it when I see it. Makes no sense that he would try for any sort of controversial gun control bill with the current makeup of the congress. It'll be near impossible to pass.

Plus, I take anything I read from a special interest group website with a large grain of salt. The whole article can be summed up as "We think Obama might decide to make a decision on whether or not he wants to think about starting to create some possible gun control legislation". Rumor based on innuedo based on speculation. I'll wait to see if it actually comes to pass, and more importantly what exactly it is, before deciding whether or not it's a good idea.

It actually should read "We think Obama might decide to make a decision on whether or not he wasnt to think about starting to create some possible gun control legislation so send us some money."

 

[daveman]

Gun control makes sense. If President Obama has the balls to push gun control, more power to him. It is the right thing to do.

Oh, so maybe YOU'RE the guy who's figured out how to get criminals to obey the law. What's your plan?

 

[daveman]

Gun control advocates operate strictly off emotion. And all gun control does is disarm law-abiding citizens.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

For those of you who were somehow having wet dreams about another 4 years of obama as president may just have that dream killed if obama does what he says he will do. Any new law or changes made to existing laws will kill his dreams of a second term. I will add remembr what happen with the democrats when they started playing with guns in 1996



Obama To Push Gun Control Soon
NRA-ILA :: Obama To Push Gun Control Soon

I do not think his gun control policies will lose him many votes, Reb.

Wanna know why?

Because few gun advocates support him, anyway.

I'll tell you what's going to sink him, though.

He lost the leftist Ds, and thanks to the fibrilating eeconomy, he's lost the independents, too.

But as to the power of the NRA, vote?

He never had it to lose.

Who are these "gun advocates" that support obam?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Gun control advocates operate strictly off emotion. And all gun control does is disarm law-abiding citizens.

Really? The poster M14 Shooter told me the other day that people convicted of felony gun crimes should not be banned from purchasing firearms, because that was a violation of the 2nd amendment.

Do you agree with him?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Well if the Stinker in Chief decides to impose a ban on firearms, he is doomed in 2012 as many here have already stated. I have my high capacity handgun (XDM 3.8 in .40) 16+1. If the Stinker does impose a ban you will see sales jump substancually in response. However, I do not see it getting through the House and if he does it by Executive Order, it will be overturned after the 2012 election.

the XD 45 even holds 13.

Like I said.....that horse is already out of the barn, down the road, and mating with everything it sees.

Throw in a couple of cases of beer and you have yourself a deal.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

For those of you who were somehow having wet dreams about another 4 years of obama as president may just have that dream killed if obama does what he says he will do. Any new law or changes made to existing laws will kill his dreams of a second term. I will add remembr what happen with the democrats when they started playing with guns in 1996



Obama To Push Gun Control Soon
NRA-ILA :: Obama To Push Gun Control Soon

I was led to believe that the moment he became President he would take our guns away....I still have mine....so pardon me if I look at your worries sceptically.

He's still in the middle of his first term isn't he?

 

[signelect]

We always find the solution in punishing those who already obey the law. My guns have never committed a crime. Quit making excuses about how people has a bad childhood and that is why they kill. They are bad people that is why they kill. Leave my guns alone, they are hurting anybody.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

*shrug*

I'll believe it when I see it. Makes no sense that he would try for any sort of controversial gun control bill with the current makeup of the congress. It'll be near impossible to pass.

Plus, I take anything I read from a special interest group website with a large grain of salt. The whole article can be summed up as "We think Obama might decide to make a decision on whether or not he wants to think about starting to create some possible gun control legislation". Rumor based on innuedo based on speculation. I'll wait to see if it actually comes to pass, and more importantly what exactly it is, before deciding whether or not it's a good idea.

It actually should read "We think Obama might decide to make a decision on whether or not he wasnt to think about starting to create some possible gun control legislation so send us some money."

No it's not, "will he do something about gun control?" that question not debatable, it's "what will he do about gun control".

 

[Two Thumbs]

Gun control makes sense. If President Obama has the balls to push gun control, more power to him. It is the right thing to do.

Nice to see you admitting that you don't care at all about the Constitution.

 

[Two Thumbs]

For those of you who were somehow having wet dreams about another 4 years of obama as president may just have that dream killed if obama does what he says he will do. Any new law or changes made to existing laws will kill his dreams of a second term. I will add remembr what happen with the democrats when they started playing with guns in 1996



Obama To Push Gun Control Soon
NRA-ILA :: Obama To Push Gun Control Soon

I'm surprised it took this long.

He's been clear enough that he's against this Constitutional right. Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the nation. They have ensured that the only people that can easily get a gun are criminals. pfft the Mob must be making tons of cash off of that.

So the only surprise is that he took this long.

 

[NYcarbineer]

About time somebody used their noggin...good on ya 'Bama...

Only one problem. ALL studies show............

More gun control = increase in violent crime in that area
Looser gun control = decrease in violent crime in that area


Thats well documented. The most violent, dangerous areas in the country are prisons. They have zero guns. The most heavily armed buildings outside military/police are gun stores. Rarely, if ever, do you hear of a gun store getting robbed or violent crime inside them.

Lefties are simply wrong on this. Utah has amongt the loosest gun laws. And enjoy one of the lowest crime rates. Cali, Illinois, NJ, NY have among the strictest gun laws. And see the most violence. Hmmmm

False.


#1, Mississippi
Gun deaths per 100,000: 18.3
Permissive gun laws: 4th out of 50

#2, Arizona
Gun deaths per 100,000: 15
Permissive gun laws: 1st out of 50

#3, Alaska
Gun deaths per 100,000: 17.6
Permissive gun laws: 11th out of 50

#4, Arkansas
Gun deaths per 100,000: 15.1
Permissive gun laws: 7th out of 50

#5, Louisiana
Gun deaths per 100,000: 19.9
Permissive gun laws: 23rd out of 50

#6, New Mexico
Gun deaths per 100,000: 15
Permissive gun laws: 6th out of 50

#7, Alabama
Gun deaths per 100,000: 17.6
Permissive gun laws: 27th out of 50

#8, Nevada
Gun deaths per 100,000: 16.2
Permissive gun laws: 22nd out of 50

#9, Montana
Gun deaths per 100,000: 14.5
Permissive gun laws: 10th out of 50

#10, Wyoming
Gun deaths per 100,000: 14.5
Permissive gun laws: 8th out of 50

As you see, the states with the most permissive gun laws are generally also those with the most gun deaths.

Full list and sources:

20 Deadliest Gun States, From Mississippi to Arizona - The Daily Beast

 

[rightwinger]

For those of you who were somehow having wet dreams about another 4 years of obama as president may just have that dream killed if obama does what he says he will do. Any new law or changes made to existing laws will kill his dreams of a second term. I will add remembr what happen with the democrats when they started playing with guns in 1996



Obama To Push Gun Control Soon
NRA-ILA :: Obama To Push Gun Control Soon

Obama is gunna take your guns!
Obama is gunn take your guns!

Everybody run about
Everybody...scream and shout

OOOObama is gunna take your guns

 

[daveman]

Gun control advocates operate strictly off emotion. And all gun control does is disarm law-abiding citizens.

Really? The poster M14 Shooter told me the other day that people convicted of felony gun crimes should not be banned from purchasing firearms, because that was a violation of the 2nd amendment.

Do you agree with him?

If a person is convicted and serves his or her sentence, is he/she still a criminal?

Do you think convicted felons should give up their right to vote even after their sentence is served?

 

[AmericanFirst]

Gun control makes sense. If President Obama has the balls to push gun control, more power to him. It is the right thing to do.

It is the right thing to do if you are a socialist. The second amendment protects us gun owners, until the socialist idiots violate that like everything else. Idiots.

 

[Mini 14]

About time somebody used their noggin...good on ya 'Bama...

Only one problem. ALL studies show............

More gun control = increase in violent crime in that area
Looser gun control = decrease in violent crime in that area


Thats well documented. The most violent, dangerous areas in the country are prisons. They have zero guns. The most heavily armed buildings outside military/police are gun stores. Rarely, if ever, do you hear of a gun store getting robbed or violent crime inside them.

Lefties are simply wrong on this. Utah has amongt the loosest gun laws. And enjoy one of the lowest crime rates. Cali, Illinois, NJ, NY have among the strictest gun laws. And see the most violence. Hmmmm

False.


#1, Mississippi
Gun deaths per 100,000: 18.3
Permissive gun laws: 4th out of 50

#2, Arizona
Gun deaths per 100,000: 15
Permissive gun laws: 1st out of 50

#3, Alaska
Gun deaths per 100,000: 17.6
Permissive gun laws: 11th out of 50

#4, Arkansas
Gun deaths per 100,000: 15.1
Permissive gun laws: 7th out of 50

#5, Louisiana
Gun deaths per 100,000: 19.9
Permissive gun laws: 23rd out of 50

#6, New Mexico
Gun deaths per 100,000: 15
Permissive gun laws: 6th out of 50

#7, Alabama
Gun deaths per 100,000: 17.6
Permissive gun laws: 27th out of 50

#8, Nevada
Gun deaths per 100,000: 16.2
Permissive gun laws: 22nd out of 50

#9, Montana
Gun deaths per 100,000: 14.5
Permissive gun laws: 10th out of 50

#10, Wyoming
Gun deaths per 100,000: 14.5
Permissive gun laws: 8th out of 50

As you see, the states with the most permissive gun laws are generally also those with the most gun deaths.

Full list and sources:

20 Deadliest Gun States, From Mississippi to Arizona - The Daily Beast

And yet again, a progressive ignores the difference in gun deaths, and gun crimes.

Its probably just a HUGE coincidence that almost all of the States in your list are also hunting destinations, isn't it?

And I'm sure you're aware that the FBI includes hunting accidents in those numbers, right?

How about gun crimes?

Got a top 10 list for that one?

 

[AmericanFirst]

About time somebody used their noggin...good on ya 'Bama...

I'm still waiting for his "noggin" to lower the unemployment rate in this country.

I am waiting for his socialist "noggin" to do anything that is supported by the constitution.

 

[AmericanFirst]

The years the democrats got their asses handed to them

Got their asses handed to them, as in Clinton getting reelected in a landslide?

Idiots like to put criminals in the white house.