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Obama has declassified information on Israeli nukes as a spiteful attack on the Country for not electing whom he wanted. He has threatened to end the US protection of Israel in the UN Security Council and now France is calling for the same council to force Israel to do its bidding.

Why would American Jews CONTINUE to support Obama and the democrats after all this?
 
As someone who neither voted for nor particularly likes Obama (I don't see him as different from other members of the two parties that have torn America apart), I can still understand how people could support him. Whether Jewish or not, in light of what has been offered to the electorate, he corresponds to what a significant part of the population prefers.
In the particular case of Israel, religion should not have much to do with it. American support for any country, officially, must be separate from such a thing (first amendment and all).
At the same time, if one were into religion, he/she would have to realize that one person, even the president of the US, could not destroy anything God protected.
 
Obama has declassified information on Israeli nukes as a spiteful attack on the Country for not electing whom he wanted. He has threatened to end the US protection of Israel in the UN Security Council and now France is calling for the same council to force Israel to do its bidding.

Why would American Jews CONTINUE to support Obama and the democrats after all this?

We don't support him, we support the Office of the President and respect the chain-of-command.

Wont be President much longer. Any harm he does will be undone by the next guy.
 
Obama has declassified information on Israeli nukes as a spiteful attack on the Country for not electing whom he wanted. He has threatened to end the US protection of Israel in the UN Security Council and now France is calling for the same council to force Israel to do its bidding.

Why would American Jews CONTINUE to support Obama and the democrats after all this?


“The policy of publicly humiliating our traditional ally has made us no new friends in the Arab world and removed the trust needed to encourage Israel to take risks for peace,” argues a prominent conservative columnist. In his piece, he castigates the American administration for its policy toward Israel: “You’d think the heaviest cross [the President] had to bear was the Star of David.”

You could be forgiven for thinking the above was clipped from a column penned by William Kristol about President Barack Obama. But in fact, those are the words of William Safire criticizing Ronald Reagan in 1981.
The Most Anti-Israel American President Ever Tablet Magazine

Israel is a client state. The moment that Israel does it's own thing then the US cops an attitude and there is a backlash.

We are not allies. It's a client state. Allies would mean that we considered each other on equal footing. That has never existed in US policy.
 
Obama has declassified information on Israeli nukes as a spiteful attack on the Country for not electing whom he wanted. He has threatened to end the US protection of Israel in the UN Security Council and now France is calling for the same council to force Israel to do its bidding.

Why would American Jews CONTINUE to support Obama and the democrats after all this?


“The policy of publicly humiliating our traditional ally has made us no new friends in the Arab world and removed the trust needed to encourage Israel to take risks for peace,” argues a prominent conservative columnist. In his piece, he castigates the American administration for its policy toward Israel: “You’d think the heaviest cross [the President] had to bear was the Star of David.”

You could be forgiven for thinking the above was clipped from a column penned by William Kristol about President Barack Obama. But in fact, those are the words of William Safire criticizing Ronald Reagan in 1981.
The Most Anti-Israel American President Ever Tablet Magazine

Israel is a client state. The moment that Israel does it's own thing then the US cops an attitude and there is a backlash.

We are not allies. It's a client state. Allies would mean that we considered each other on equal footing. That has never existed in US policy.


Israel is not a client state.

It is a first world democracy that it primarily responsible for it's own protection and has a legitimate government.

The arrogance of the Left is astounding.

I believe that Obama assumed office thinking as you do, and tried to give order to Netanyahyu, and Netanyahu had to tell him that his boss was the Israeli people, not Obama.

Allies do not have to be equal. Nato is not a collection of equals. It is an American led alliance.
 
Obama has declassified information on Israeli nukes as a spiteful attack on the Country for not electing whom he wanted. He has threatened to end the US protection of Israel in the UN Security Council and now France is calling for the same council to force Israel to do its bidding.

Why would American Jews CONTINUE to support Obama and the democrats after all this?
That is hearsay and has not been confirmed legit....
 
Obama has declassified information on Israeli nukes as a spiteful attack on the Country for not electing whom he wanted. He has threatened to end the US protection of Israel in the UN Security Council and now France is calling for the same council to force Israel to do its bidding.

Why would American Jews CONTINUE to support Obama and the democrats after all this?


“The policy of publicly humiliating our traditional ally has made us no new friends in the Arab world and removed the trust needed to encourage Israel to take risks for peace,” argues a prominent conservative columnist. In his piece, he castigates the American administration for its policy toward Israel: “You’d think the heaviest cross [the President] had to bear was the Star of David.”

You could be forgiven for thinking the above was clipped from a column penned by William Kristol about President Barack Obama. But in fact, those are the words of William Safire criticizing Ronald Reagan in 1981.
The Most Anti-Israel American President Ever Tablet Magazine

Israel is a client state. The moment that Israel does it's own thing then the US cops an attitude and there is a backlash.

We are not allies. It's a client state. Allies would mean that we considered each other on equal footing. That has never existed in US policy.


Israel is not a client state.

It is a first world democracy that it primarily responsible for it's own protection and has a legitimate government.

The arrogance of the Left is astounding.

I believe that Obama assumed office thinking as you do, and tried to give order to Netanyahyu, and Netanyahu had to tell him that his boss was the Israeli people, not Obama.

Allies do not have to be equal. Nato is not a collection of equals. It is an American led alliance.

It is a client state. It is heavily dependent on the backing of the US.
 
Obama has declassified information on Israeli nukes as a spiteful attack on the Country for not electing whom he wanted. He has threatened to end the US protection of Israel in the UN Security Council and now France is calling for the same council to force Israel to do its bidding.

Why would American Jews CONTINUE to support Obama and the democrats after all this?


“The policy of publicly humiliating our traditional ally has made us no new friends in the Arab world and removed the trust needed to encourage Israel to take risks for peace,” argues a prominent conservative columnist. In his piece, he castigates the American administration for its policy toward Israel: “You’d think the heaviest cross [the President] had to bear was the Star of David.”

You could be forgiven for thinking the above was clipped from a column penned by William Kristol about President Barack Obama. But in fact, those are the words of William Safire criticizing Ronald Reagan in 1981.
The Most Anti-Israel American President Ever Tablet Magazine

Israel is a client state. The moment that Israel does it's own thing then the US cops an attitude and there is a backlash.

We are not allies. It's a client state. Allies would mean that we considered each other on equal footing. That has never existed in US policy.


Israel is not a client state.

It is a first world democracy that it primarily responsible for it's own protection and has a legitimate government.

The arrogance of the Left is astounding.

I believe that Obama assumed office thinking as you do, and tried to give order to Netanyahyu, and Netanyahu had to tell him that his boss was the Israeli people, not Obama.

Allies do not have to be equal. Nato is not a collection of equals. It is an American led alliance.

It is a client state. It is heavily dependent on the backing of the US.


Israeli gdp is 290 billion, us military aid is about 3. Slightly more than 1%.

There are no US military forces stationed to protect Israel, they do all of that themselves.

Their leaders are chosen, not by Washington, but by valid elections.

THey are a First World Nation.

This does not sound like a client state to me.

Do you think South KOrea is a client state?
 
Obama has declassified information on Israeli nukes as a spiteful attack on the Country for not electing whom he wanted. He has threatened to end the US protection of Israel in the UN Security Council and now France is calling for the same council to force Israel to do its bidding.

Why would American Jews CONTINUE to support Obama and the democrats after all this?


“The policy of publicly humiliating our traditional ally has made us no new friends in the Arab world and removed the trust needed to encourage Israel to take risks for peace,” argues a prominent conservative columnist. In his piece, he castigates the American administration for its policy toward Israel: “You’d think the heaviest cross [the President] had to bear was the Star of David.”

You could be forgiven for thinking the above was clipped from a column penned by William Kristol about President Barack Obama. But in fact, those are the words of William Safire criticizing Ronald Reagan in 1981.
The Most Anti-Israel American President Ever Tablet Magazine

Israel is a client state. The moment that Israel does it's own thing then the US cops an attitude and there is a backlash.

We are not allies. It's a client state. Allies would mean that we considered each other on equal footing. That has never existed in US policy.


Israel is not a client state.

It is a first world democracy that it primarily responsible for it's own protection and has a legitimate government.

The arrogance of the Left is astounding.

I believe that Obama assumed office thinking as you do, and tried to give order to Netanyahyu, and Netanyahu had to tell him that his boss was the Israeli people, not Obama.

Allies do not have to be equal. Nato is not a collection of equals. It is an American led alliance.

It is a client state. It is heavily dependent on the backing of the US.


Israeli gdp is 290 billion, us military aid is about 3. Slightly more than 1%.

There are no US military forces stationed to protect Israel, they do all of that themselves.

Their leaders are chosen, not by Washington, but by valid elections.

THey are a First World Nation.

This does not sound like a client state to me.

Do you think South KOrea is a client state?

Do you think that Sweden could waltz right into Israel and demand that terrorists be released from prison and call that negotiations? How about Guatemala? Germany? UK? No? Why is that?

The arrogance that your looking for is found in Kerry. To date, Israel is the one that has had to continuously make concessions. Can you tell me why that is?

Israel does NOT control the US. The US does not do Israel's bidding. Never has.

Can you explain to me why we are funding anti-Israel propaganda or funding terrorists via taxes? How about the NIF and Shatil?

The moment that Israel operates on it's own there is a backlash. I'm not talking about a puppet government. Indeed, a dictatorship is not a requirement.Even Ariel Sharon was able to admit that Israel was heavily dependent on the US and didn't realize the extent of which until he got in there. There is a larger game being played. There always has been.

There are few on the Right that have the cajones to admit that this is an empire but if you do not support those policies then they label you as anti-American. It's distasteful. The left pretends it doesn't exist until someone on the Right is in power. Not good cocktail party conversation. Destabilization is the same under any alleged ideology. So, let's cut the crap and get down to business.

The US is an empire. Israel is a client state. There is no Jooish plot. The tax payers have no qualms for all their crap to fund terrorists and anti-Israel propaganda via human right's organizations where peace is not an objective and actually seeks to destabilize the IDF.

Now we can move forward.
 
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The US became an empire many years ago with manifest destiny, it became a world empire after WWII.....Since defeating the Nazi's we have been their biggest employers...Why should today be any different in who we use to fight our enemies that have been produced at such a cost....As MacArthur said, Id employ the devil,, if he is anti-communist....
 
Obama has declassified information on Israeli nukes as a spiteful attack on the Country for not electing whom he wanted. He has threatened to end the US protection of Israel in the UN Security Council and now France is calling for the same council to force Israel to do its bidding.

Why would American Jews CONTINUE to support Obama and the democrats after all this?


“The policy of publicly humiliating our traditional ally has made us no new friends in the Arab world and removed the trust needed to encourage Israel to take risks for peace,” argues a prominent conservative columnist. In his piece, he castigates the American administration for its policy toward Israel: “You’d think the heaviest cross [the President] had to bear was the Star of David.”

You could be forgiven for thinking the above was clipped from a column penned by William Kristol about President Barack Obama. But in fact, those are the words of William Safire criticizing Ronald Reagan in 1981.
The Most Anti-Israel American President Ever Tablet Magazine

Israel is a client state. The moment that Israel does it's own thing then the US cops an attitude and there is a backlash.

We are not allies. It's a client state. Allies would mean that we considered each other on equal footing. That has never existed in US policy.


Israel is not a client state.

It is a first world democracy that it primarily responsible for it's own protection and has a legitimate government.

The arrogance of the Left is astounding.

I believe that Obama assumed office thinking as you do, and tried to give order to Netanyahyu, and Netanyahu had to tell him that his boss was the Israeli people, not Obama.

Allies do not have to be equal. Nato is not a collection of equals. It is an American led alliance.

It is a client state. It is heavily dependent on the backing of the US.


Israeli gdp is 290 billion, us military aid is about 3. Slightly more than 1%.

There are no US military forces stationed to protect Israel, they do all of that themselves.

Their leaders are chosen, not by Washington, but by valid elections.

THey are a First World Nation.

This does not sound like a client state to me.

Do you think South KOrea is a client state?

Do you think that Sweden could waltz right into Israel and demand that terrorists be released from prison and call that negotiations? How about Guatemala? Germany? UK? No? Why is that?

The arrogance that your looking for is found in Kerry. To date, Israel is the one that has had to continuously make concessions. Can you tell me why that is?

Israel does NOT control the US. The US does not do Israel's bidding. Never has.

Can you explain to me why we are funding anti-Israel propaganda or funding terrorists via taxes? How about the NIF and Shatil?

The moment that Israel operates on it's own there is a backlash. I'm not talking about a puppet government. Indeed, a dictatorship is not a requirement.Even Ariel Sharon was able to admit that Israel was heavily dependent on the US and didn't realize the extent of which until he got in there. There is a larger game being played. There always has been.

There are few on the Right that have the cajones to admit that this is an empire but if you do not support those policies then they label you as anti-American. It's distasteful. The left pretends it doesn't exist until someone on the Right is in power. Not good cocktail party conversation. Destabilization is the same under any alleged ideology. So, let's cut the crap and get down to business.

The US is an empire. Israel is a client state. There is no Jooish plot. The tax payers have no qualms for all their crap to fund terrorists and anti-Israel propaganda via human right's organizations where peace is not an objective and actually seeks to destabilize the IDF.

Now we can move forward.


Having influence is not the same as having a client state, or an Empire.

I have not claimed that Israel controls the US.

"Those policies"?

I call people anti-American when they demonstrate a bias against America.
 
“The policy of publicly humiliating our traditional ally has made us no new friends in the Arab world and removed the trust needed to encourage Israel to take risks for peace,” argues a prominent conservative columnist. In his piece, he castigates the American administration for its policy toward Israel: “You’d think the heaviest cross [the President] had to bear was the Star of David.”

You could be forgiven for thinking the above was clipped from a column penned by William Kristol about President Barack Obama. But in fact, those are the words of William Safire criticizing Ronald Reagan in 1981.
The Most Anti-Israel American President Ever Tablet Magazine

Israel is a client state. The moment that Israel does it's own thing then the US cops an attitude and there is a backlash.

We are not allies. It's a client state. Allies would mean that we considered each other on equal footing. That has never existed in US policy.


Israel is not a client state.

It is a first world democracy that it primarily responsible for it's own protection and has a legitimate government.

The arrogance of the Left is astounding.

I believe that Obama assumed office thinking as you do, and tried to give order to Netanyahyu, and Netanyahu had to tell him that his boss was the Israeli people, not Obama.

Allies do not have to be equal. Nato is not a collection of equals. It is an American led alliance.

It is a client state. It is heavily dependent on the backing of the US.


Israeli gdp is 290 billion, us military aid is about 3. Slightly more than 1%.

There are no US military forces stationed to protect Israel, they do all of that themselves.

Their leaders are chosen, not by Washington, but by valid elections.

THey are a First World Nation.

This does not sound like a client state to me.

Do you think South KOrea is a client state?

Do you think that Sweden could waltz right into Israel and demand that terrorists be released from prison and call that negotiations? How about Guatemala? Germany? UK? No? Why is that?

The arrogance that your looking for is found in Kerry. To date, Israel is the one that has had to continuously make concessions. Can you tell me why that is?

Israel does NOT control the US. The US does not do Israel's bidding. Never has.

Can you explain to me why we are funding anti-Israel propaganda or funding terrorists via taxes? How about the NIF and Shatil?

The moment that Israel operates on it's own there is a backlash. I'm not talking about a puppet government. Indeed, a dictatorship is not a requirement.Even Ariel Sharon was able to admit that Israel was heavily dependent on the US and didn't realize the extent of which until he got in there. There is a larger game being played. There always has been.

There are few on the Right that have the cajones to admit that this is an empire but if you do not support those policies then they label you as anti-American. It's distasteful. The left pretends it doesn't exist until someone on the Right is in power. Not good cocktail party conversation. Destabilization is the same under any alleged ideology. So, let's cut the crap and get down to business.

The US is an empire. Israel is a client state. There is no Jooish plot. The tax payers have no qualms for all their crap to fund terrorists and anti-Israel propaganda via human right's organizations where peace is not an objective and actually seeks to destabilize the IDF.

Now we can move forward.


Having influence is not the same as having a client state, or an Empire.

I have not claimed that Israel controls the US.

"Those policies"?

I call people anti-American when they demonstrate a bias against America.

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I did not pull this view out of my ass. Further, I am not interested in what you call anti-American.

Israel is a client state.
 
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"We appreciate all that President Obama has done for Israel... Some of that is widely known, like strengthening security cooperation and intelligence sharing, opposing anti-Israel resolutions at the U.N. Some of what the president has done for Israel is less well- known.
I called him in 2010 when we had the Carmel forest fire, and he immediately agreed to respond to my request for urgent aid. In 2011, we had our embassy in Cairo under siege, and again, he provided vital assistance at the crucial moment. Or his support for more missile interceptors during our operation last summer when we took on Hamas terrorists.
In each of those moments, I called the president, and he was there. And some of what the president has done for Israel might never be known, because it touches on some of the most sensitive and strategic issues that arise between an American president and an Israeli prime minister. But I know it, and I will always be grateful to President Obama for that support."
-- Benjamin Netanyahu; from speech to U.S. Congress (March 3, 2015)
 
Israel is not a client state.

It is a first world democracy that it primarily responsible for it's own protection and has a legitimate government.

The arrogance of the Left is astounding.

I believe that Obama assumed office thinking as you do, and tried to give order to Netanyahyu, and Netanyahu had to tell him that his boss was the Israeli people, not Obama.

Allies do not have to be equal. Nato is not a collection of equals. It is an American led alliance.

It is a client state. It is heavily dependent on the backing of the US.


Israeli gdp is 290 billion, us military aid is about 3. Slightly more than 1%.

There are no US military forces stationed to protect Israel, they do all of that themselves.

Their leaders are chosen, not by Washington, but by valid elections.

THey are a First World Nation.

This does not sound like a client state to me.

Do you think South KOrea is a client state?

Do you think that Sweden could waltz right into Israel and demand that terrorists be released from prison and call that negotiations? How about Guatemala? Germany? UK? No? Why is that?

The arrogance that your looking for is found in Kerry. To date, Israel is the one that has had to continuously make concessions. Can you tell me why that is?

Israel does NOT control the US. The US does not do Israel's bidding. Never has.

Can you explain to me why we are funding anti-Israel propaganda or funding terrorists via taxes? How about the NIF and Shatil?

The moment that Israel operates on it's own there is a backlash. I'm not talking about a puppet government. Indeed, a dictatorship is not a requirement.Even Ariel Sharon was able to admit that Israel was heavily dependent on the US and didn't realize the extent of which until he got in there. There is a larger game being played. There always has been.

There are few on the Right that have the cajones to admit that this is an empire but if you do not support those policies then they label you as anti-American. It's distasteful. The left pretends it doesn't exist until someone on the Right is in power. Not good cocktail party conversation. Destabilization is the same under any alleged ideology. So, let's cut the crap and get down to business.

The US is an empire. Israel is a client state. There is no Jooish plot. The tax payers have no qualms for all their crap to fund terrorists and anti-Israel propaganda via human right's organizations where peace is not an objective and actually seeks to destabilize the IDF.

Now we can move forward.


Having influence is not the same as having a client state, or an Empire.

I have not claimed that Israel controls the US.

"Those policies"?

I call people anti-American when they demonstrate a bias against America.

9780743249102.jpg



I did not pull this view out of my ass. Further, I am not interested in what you call anti-American.

Israel is a client state.


I didn't accuse you of pulling anything out of your ass. I have stated my disagreements.

YOu brought up the whole "Anti-American" thing, not me.

America is not an Empire and Israel in not a client state.
 
As an American citizen, not an Israeli as others here appear to be, I think our blind support of that thug government in Israel is the source of our trouble in the Mideast.
 
It is a client state. It is heavily dependent on the backing of the US.


Israeli gdp is 290 billion, us military aid is about 3. Slightly more than 1%.

There are no US military forces stationed to protect Israel, they do all of that themselves.

Their leaders are chosen, not by Washington, but by valid elections.

THey are a First World Nation.

This does not sound like a client state to me.

Do you think South KOrea is a client state?

Do you think that Sweden could waltz right into Israel and demand that terrorists be released from prison and call that negotiations? How about Guatemala? Germany? UK? No? Why is that?

The arrogance that your looking for is found in Kerry. To date, Israel is the one that has had to continuously make concessions. Can you tell me why that is?

Israel does NOT control the US. The US does not do Israel's bidding. Never has.

Can you explain to me why we are funding anti-Israel propaganda or funding terrorists via taxes? How about the NIF and Shatil?

The moment that Israel operates on it's own there is a backlash. I'm not talking about a puppet government. Indeed, a dictatorship is not a requirement.Even Ariel Sharon was able to admit that Israel was heavily dependent on the US and didn't realize the extent of which until he got in there. There is a larger game being played. There always has been.

There are few on the Right that have the cajones to admit that this is an empire but if you do not support those policies then they label you as anti-American. It's distasteful. The left pretends it doesn't exist until someone on the Right is in power. Not good cocktail party conversation. Destabilization is the same under any alleged ideology. So, let's cut the crap and get down to business.

The US is an empire. Israel is a client state. There is no Jooish plot. The tax payers have no qualms for all their crap to fund terrorists and anti-Israel propaganda via human right's organizations where peace is not an objective and actually seeks to destabilize the IDF.

Now we can move forward.


Having influence is not the same as having a client state, or an Empire.

I have not claimed that Israel controls the US.

"Those policies"?

I call people anti-American when they demonstrate a bias against America.

9780743249102.jpg



I did not pull this view out of my ass. Further, I am not interested in what you call anti-American.

Israel is a client state.


I didn't accuse you of pulling anything out of your ass. I have stated my disagreements.

YOu brought up the whole "Anti-American" thing, not me.

America is not an Empire and Israel in not a client state.
It is a client state. It is heavily dependent on the backing of the US.


Israeli gdp is 290 billion, us military aid is about 3. Slightly more than 1%.

There are no US military forces stationed to protect Israel, they do all of that themselves.

Their leaders are chosen, not by Washington, but by valid elections.

THey are a First World Nation.

This does not sound like a client state to me.

Do you think South KOrea is a client state?

Do you think that Sweden could waltz right into Israel and demand that terrorists be released from prison and call that negotiations? How about Guatemala? Germany? UK? No? Why is that?

The arrogance that your looking for is found in Kerry. To date, Israel is the one that has had to continuously make concessions. Can you tell me why that is?

Israel does NOT control the US. The US does not do Israel's bidding. Never has.

Can you explain to me why we are funding anti-Israel propaganda or funding terrorists via taxes? How about the NIF and Shatil?

The moment that Israel operates on it's own there is a backlash. I'm not talking about a puppet government. Indeed, a dictatorship is not a requirement.Even Ariel Sharon was able to admit that Israel was heavily dependent on the US and didn't realize the extent of which until he got in there. There is a larger game being played. There always has been.

There are few on the Right that have the cajones to admit that this is an empire but if you do not support those policies then they label you as anti-American. It's distasteful. The left pretends it doesn't exist until someone on the Right is in power. Not good cocktail party conversation. Destabilization is the same under any alleged ideology. So, let's cut the crap and get down to business.

The US is an empire. Israel is a client state. There is no Jooish plot. The tax payers have no qualms for all their crap to fund terrorists and anti-Israel propaganda via human right's organizations where peace is not an objective and actually seeks to destabilize the IDF.

Now we can move forward.


Having influence is not the same as having a client state, or an Empire.

I have not claimed that Israel controls the US.

"Those policies"?

I call people anti-American when they demonstrate a bias against America.

9780743249102.jpg



I did not pull this view out of my ass. Further, I am not interested in what you call anti-American.

Israel is a client state.


I didn't accuse you of pulling anything out of your ass. I have stated my disagreements.

YOu brought up the whole "Anti-American" thing, not me.

America is not an Empire and Israel in not a client state.

This is an Empire. Israel is a client state. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
 

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