CDZ Obama Impeachment

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

I certainly believe his complete refusal to uphold existing immigration laws would qualify as neglect of duty.

According to the definition of those who oppose him, perhaps, but every executive has to decide where to focus enforcement of laws. That fact would open all future executives to impeachment. Also, since Obama has not been guilty of "complete refusal" to uphold immigration laws, your analysis fails on that point. The eternal bugaboo of relying on the absolute torpedoes that notion.

What a load of crock. The man HAS most certainly ordered ICE to stand down, and is talking about unilaterally making these people legal in direct defiance of current law.

If you can't be honest, stay out of the CDZ. I can get lies in the other forums.

Then why are deportations at an all time high?

They aren't , that's been debunked eight ways 'til Sunday.

 

[Howey]

U.S. deportations of immigrants reach record high in 2013 Pew Research Center

 

[konradv]

Then why are deportations at an all time high?

They aren't , that's been debunked eight ways 'til Sunday.

How about doing it one more time? Why should we just take your word for it, especially since the numbers say otherwise?

 

[FactFinder]

What has he done that is an impeachable offense?

Nuttin' honey. Unless you are kkk oriented.

 

[FactFinder]

If he goes through with this rumored legal status for several million people then yes, he should be impeached.

Considering the years now, this issue has been milked to death on both sides. Thank God someone finally had the guts to make a decision be it right or wrong. Congress may be a bit more productive actually putting forth a bill rather than focused on more political crappiness. Time this country actually started acting like it has some semblance of sanity left.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I'm starting this thread in the CDZ because I'd like at least a semi-serious explanation without all the partisan BS about the constitutionality of impeachment of Obama. I'd really like to know.

What is the constitutional argument for impeaching Obama? What has he done that is an impeachable offense?

If he goes through with this rumored legal status for several million people then yes, he should be impeached. He's not a king and he doesn't have the authority to rule by executive fiat. This is exactly why Congress was given the power of impeachment, to prevent this kind of person from trying to rule over the populous.

Will he be impeached? No.

Incorrect.

The AG granting a stay of removal or deportation to undocumented immigrants does not constitute 'executive fiat' because Congress authorized the president to approve deportation deferrals.

Congress cannot 'impeach' a president for following a law that Congress itself enacted.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Hacks will be hacks. The desire to promote the party and protect party members is higher than any sort of integrity among the left. Obama is a criminal - that is simple and irrefutable fact. democrats will protect him because democrats are without honor or integrity, this too is fact.

If that is the case, please contact the Attorney General and show them the evidence.

If there is no evidence to present, then what you are claiming is certainly not an "irrefutable fact."

 

[Carla_Danger]

I'm starting this thread in the CDZ because I'd like at least a semi-serious explanation without all the partisan BS about the constitutionality of impeachment of Obama. I'd really like to know.

What is the constitutional argument for impeaching Obama? What has he done that is an impeachable offense?

He's black.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

If he goes through with this rumored legal status for several million people then yes, he should be impeached.

Considering the years now, this issue has been milked to death on both sides. Thank God someone finally had the guts to make a decision be it right or wrong. Congress may be a bit more productive actually putting forth a bill rather than focused on more political crappiness. Time this country actually started acting like it has some semblance of sanity left.

The bill was ALREADY handed to congress where it sat for over a year and was NOT PRESENTED for a vote. Why? Because there are enough votes to pass it! You can't make this stuff up, people.

Even though the Republicans own the house, Obama's plain would have passed.

If they don't have the votes, then FINE. Vote on it and PROVE that it was not the will of congress.

This was a classic example of Congress obstructing and Republican leadership failing to allow a vote on a very important bill.

 

[Carla_Danger]

I'm starting this thread in the CDZ because I'd like at least a semi-serious explanation without all the partisan BS about the constitutionality of impeachment of Obama. I'd really like to know.

What is the constitutional argument for impeaching Obama? What has he done that is an impeachable offense?

If he goes through with this rumored legal status for several million people then yes, he should be impeached. He's not a king and he doesn't have the authority to rule by executive fiat. This is exactly why Congress was given the power of impeachment, to prevent this kind of person from trying to rule over the populous.

Will he be impeached? No.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

"Then why are deportations at an all time high?"

They aren't , that's been debunked eight ways 'til Sunday.

No, it's a fact.

Once again, just because someone does not like the actual figures, lies about them become so over used that people think that the lies are facts.

 

[Carla_Danger]

I'm starting this thread in the CDZ because I'd like at least a semi-serious explanation without all the partisan BS about the constitutionality of impeachment of Obama. I'd really like to know.

What is the constitutional argument for impeaching Obama? What has he done that is an impeachable offense?

If he goes through with this rumored legal status for several million people then yes, he should be impeached. He's not a king and he doesn't have the authority to rule by executive fiat. This is exactly why Congress was given the power of impeachment, to prevent this kind of person from trying to rule over the populous.

Will he be impeached? No.

There is a thread for your silly little lies.

This isn't it.

smh....Prove it.

 

[Syriusly]

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Oh, a conspiracy theory. Good luck with that.

I realize that you're nothing but a hack and that party is the only element of value to you.

But factual and documented crimes are not "a conspiracy theory,' they are facts.

Are you denying that Operation Choke Point existed?

Let me google that for you

Are you claiming that Extortion is not a violation of federal law?

18 U.S. Code 872 - Extortion by officers or employees of the United States LII Legal Information Institute

No, you're blindly blowing smoke in desperate hope of obfuscating the facts.

Obama is a crook, he needs to be removed from office. You don't CARE that he is a crook, because you hold party above all, but that doesn't alter the FACT that he is a crook.

Extortion is a crime- however

You claiming that Obama committed a crime doesn't make it so.

You claiming that prosecutorial actions are extortion also does not make it a crime.

IF Congress ever does go for impeachment- they won't even mention Operation Choke Point.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I'm starting this thread in the CDZ because I'd like at least a semi-serious explanation without all the partisan BS about the constitutionality of impeachment of Obama. I'd really like to know.

What is the constitutional argument for impeaching Obama? What has he done that is an impeachable offense?

If he goes through with this rumored legal status for several million people then yes, he should be impeached. He's not a king and he doesn't have the authority to rule by executive fiat. This is exactly why Congress was given the power of impeachment, to prevent this kind of person from trying to rule over the populous.

Will he be impeached? No.

of course he wont be impeached.one entirely different law for politians than us,they get away with crimes everyday we would go to jail for as every american knows.thats not the way it should be but unfortunately in the real world,it is.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Very good find, Carla - anyone who thinks that this is a bunch of guff should come right out and challenge you with the correct information.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Extortion is a crime- however

You claiming that Obama committed a crime doesn't make it so.

True, it is his ACTIONS that make it so.

{The ability to destroy legal industries through secret actions to deprive them of banking services has obvious political consequences. For example, it was reported last week that firearms shops are alleging that Operation Choke Point is being used to pressure banks into refusing to providing financial services. There are also reports that porn stars (and here) have had their bank accounts terminated for “moral” reasons related to the “reputation risk” of banking individuals in the porn industry. IRS officials must already be salivating about ways to apply Operation Choke Point to tea party groups.}

8220 Operation Choke Point 8221 - The Washington Post

Obama is a criminal.

That party hacks don't care because party alone is their concern does no alter reality.

You claiming that prosecutorial actions are extortion also does not make it a crime.

IF Congress ever does go for impeachment- they won't even mention Operation Choke Point.

These are not prosecutorial acts - no one alleges that any crimes were committed. The administration acted against political enemies who were suspected of no crimes, much less charged with any,

This was a simple, Chicago style Mafia extortion racket.

That you support your party and don't care that they engage in crime does not alter the facts.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Very good find, Carla - anyone who thinks that this is a bunch of guff should come right out and challenge you with the correct information.

These lies are dispelled in the thread on the subject, as you know.

 

[Carla_Danger]

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smh....Prove it.

Feel free to be eviscerated in the proper thread.

Reagan Bush Acted Without Congress To Shield Immigrants From Deportation Page 24 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

I'm here on this thread, right here, right now. And now's your chance to prove otherwise.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I'm here on this thread, right here, right now. And now's your chance to prove otherwise.

This thread deals with the impeachment of Obama.

I understand why you wish to derail it - but this is the CDZ, so your trolling may have consequences.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

"Then why are deportations at an all time high?"

They aren't , that's been debunked eight ways 'til Sunday.

No, it's a fact.

Once again, just because someone does not like the actual figures, lies about them become so over used that people think that the lies are facts.

No, it's not a fact sir

Lies damned lies and Obama s deportation statistics - The Washington Post

Sorry, but you've bought into the propaganda on that one