Obama has done a good job as president

[editec]

Obama has done a good job as president. The jobs and tax cut bill saved millions of jobs. The restructing of GM worked...it is now a profitable company. The bank bailout which Bush and Obama both worked on brought stability to the markets, and the vast majority of the money lent to the banks has already been repaid. Healthcare reform was long overdue and made it through Congress in spite of one of the most dishonest campaigns against it by the corporate media and the Republicans. Most of our troops have left Iraq, and our image in the world has been restored. The only thing Obama has done wrong is he has been too soft on the Republicans, the most lying, cheating, stealing, political party that only a corporate lobbyist for Haliburton could love.

He failed to be a Democrat. That's why so many former supporters just didn't bother to vote this election cycle.

In his defence he had help failing to be a Democrat.

He has many Dems in Congress ALSO failing to be Democrats.

The Republicans in Congress, however, mostly succeeded in being what they'd always been...supply sider advocates.

Obama has thus far failed to use his bully pulpit.

He'd have done better, indeed the Dems running for Congress would have done better, too, if they'd stood up to the Rs and rammed stuff down their thoats.

But the Dems didn't because far too many of them are really Republicans-lite.

Exactly why that is is obvious.

It has to do with the way we fund campiagns.

Both parties are beholden to BIG CAPITAL.

 

[Defiant1]

Obama has done a good job as president

Says who? Name one good thing he's done as president.

What the fuck has Obama done so far?

Didn't he get spinners put on all his limos?

 

[Dr Grump]

We would be better off without Meril Lynch and all those companies that took part in the bailout, and I assume the CEO's of those companies would be in a quarry with rocks and in a federal prison. But thanks Obama's bailout they are back to start the mess all over again, without the slightest bit of punishment. Go corporate socialism!

It was Bush who signed Tarp...

 

[Gatekeeper]

HAS, Obama done a good job as president?

If Obama's goals were to bankrupt the working class, plunge the country into massive debt for generations, destroy the Dollar, make it a struggle for most of the working people to afford OBAMACARE, yeah, healthcare 'will cost us less' nonsense. and a few bushels of other idiotic decisions, he was a success.

If his goal was to improve America's standing in the world, increase jobs IN America, lower healthcare costs, lower taxes, stop rewarding billionaires for mismanagement of their corporations, apparently knowing they had nothing to lose, since 'the system' will compensate them for fiscal stupidity and greed at the expense of the taxpayer, and so much more, then he FAILED.

The winners, Large corporations, and whoever is investing in the stock market from around the world.

The losers, most of the American working class, small businesses etc.

Where is Jimmy Carter when we need him?

 

[editec]

For those interested in the details of what the 11th congress did do and what they were doing?

Here's the list of the 284 bills that got passed

 

[jillian]

We would be better off without Meril Lynch and all those companies that took part in the bailout, and I assume the CEO's of those companies would be in a quarry with rocks and in a federal prison. But thanks Obama's bailout they are back to start the mess all over again, without the slightest bit of punishment. Go corporate socialism!

It was Bush who signed Tarp...

facts just confuse him.

 

[Dr Grump]

We would be better off without Meril Lynch and all those companies that took part in the bailout, and I assume the CEO's of those companies would be in a quarry with rocks and in a federal prison. But thanks Obama's bailout they are back to start the mess all over again, without the slightest bit of punishment. Go corporate socialism!

It was Bush who signed Tarp...

facts just confuse him.

Facts seem to be confusing almost all the Cons on this thread...

 

[jillian]

It was Bush who signed Tarp...

facts just confuse him.

Facts seem to be confusing almost all the Cons on this thread...

amazing, isn't it?

 

[Intense]

Obama has done a good job as president.

Just sayin...

Clean-up Aisle #7.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

We would be better off without Meril Lynch and all those companies that took part in the bailout, and I assume the CEO's of those companies would be in a quarry with rocks and in a federal prison. But thanks Obama's bailout they are back to start the mess all over again, without the slightest bit of punishment. Go corporate socialism!

It was Bush who signed Tarp...

facts just confuse him.

It was democrats who were the party in power including obama who allowed Bush to do it. now the facts have been set straight again.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

For those interested in the details of what the 11th congress did do and what they were doing?

here's the list of the 284 bills that got passed

There was a problem accessing the link but I think I may have fixed it.
Nope that didn't fix it.

 

[Dr Grump]

amazing, isn't it?

Not really. There are only a couple of good debaters on the Con side on this board...most are what I call 'sound bite' debaters. Take the likes of Beck, Coulter, Hannity 'insert right-wing shill here______" and run with it, without even looking into what they are saying...

....the fact that even on this thread - after it has been pointed out again and again - that Bush signed TARP, and they still insist that Obama did it. Not only that, but overall, it was a good thing that Bush did (one of the very few). The only bugbear I have about it is that some banks were told they had to take the money even though they didnt' want it, and there was not enough oversight...

 

[Intense]

Obama has done a good job as president. The jobs and tax cut bill saved millions of jobs. The restructing of GM worked...it is now a profitable company. The bank bailout which Bush and Obama both worked on brought stability to the markets, and the vast majority of the money lent to the banks has already been repaid. Healthcare reform was long overdue and made it through Congress in spite of one of the most dishonest campaigns against it by the corporate media and the Republicans. Most of our troops have left Iraq, and our image in the world has been restored. The only thing Obama has done wrong is he has been too soft on the Republicans, the most lying, cheating, stealing, political party that only a corporate lobbyist for Haliburton could love.

He failed to be a Democrat. That's why so many former supporters just didn't bother to vote this election cycle.

In his defence he had help failing to be a Democrat.

He has many Dems in Congress ALSO failing to be Democrats.

The Republicans in Congress, however, mostly succeeded in being what they'd always been...supply sider advocates.

Obama has thus far failed to use his bully pulpit.

He'd have done better, indeed the Dems running for Congress would have done better, too, if they'd stood up to the Rs and rammed stuff down their thoats.

But the Dems didn't because far too many of them are really Republicans-lite.

Exactly why that is is obvious.

It has to do with the way we fund campiagns.

Both parties are beholden to BIG CAPITAL.

Obama uses the Bully Pulpit every time he throws someone under the bus. He uses it to bully and demonize consistently. Democratic Leadership comes from the fringe, not the center, that's just how you guy's are. Try more moderate leadership, it doesn't stifle the message, it's not taking voice away from the fringe. It promotes more balanced flow. Stop blaming us on the Right for your Party failures, and take your Party back.

 

[jillian]

amazing, isn't it?

Not really. There are only a couple of good debaters on the Con side on this board...most are what I call 'sound bite' debaters. Take the likes of Beck, Coulter, Hannity 'insert right-wing shill here______" and run with it, without even looking into what they are saying...

....the fact that even on this thread - after it has been pointed out again and again - that Bush signed TARP, and they still insist that Obama did it. Not only that, but overall, it was a good thing that Bush did (one of the very few). The only bugbear I have about it is that some banks were told they had to take the money even though they didnt' want it, and there was not enough oversight...

I agree with you. And about TARP, I always found it funny that they try to hang that on Obama. But I also think there wasn't any choice given what was happening with the economy. They also won't address the fact that most of the money came back to us already.

As for lack of oversight and having to take money, I agree with you. But they really do know where most of the money went.

 

[Intense]

amazing, isn't it?

Not really. There are only a couple of good debaters on the Con side on this board...most are what I call 'sound bite' debaters. Take the likes of Beck, Coulter, Hannity 'insert right-wing shill here______" and run with it, without even looking into what they are saying...

....the fact that even on this thread - after it has been pointed out again and again - that Bush signed TARP, and they still insist that Obama did it. Not only that, but overall, it was a good thing that Bush did (one of the very few). The only bugbear I have about it is that some banks were told they had to take the money even though they didnt' want it, and there was not enough oversight...

Next time you need to service yourself, log off first.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Yeah, he was leading but then the voters gotta a load of Palin and he kinda freaked out when the economy tanked.

Poor McCain. He had the juice in 2000 to win the thing but dubya went and hammered him in dixie.

So it goes.

McCain never lead, he got a jump when he brought Sarah on.

 

[Intense]

amazing, isn't it?

Not really. There are only a couple of good debaters on the Con side on this board...most are what I call 'sound bite' debaters. Take the likes of Beck, Coulter, Hannity 'insert right-wing shill here______" and run with it, without even looking into what they are saying...

....the fact that even on this thread - after it has been pointed out again and again - that Bush signed TARP, and they still insist that Obama did it. Not only that, but overall, it was a good thing that Bush did (one of the very few). The only bugbear I have about it is that some banks were told they had to take the money even though they didnt' want it, and there was not enough oversight...

I agree with you. And about TARP, I always found it funny that they try to hang that on Obama. But I also think there wasn't any choice given what was happening with the economy. They also won't address the fact that most of the money came back to us already.

As for lack of oversight and having to take money, I agree with you. But they really do know where most of the money went.

The Markets are being manipulated Jillian. The worst is yet to happen.

 

[Dr Grump]

Obama uses the Bully Pulpit every time he throws someone under the bus. He uses it to bully and demonize consistently. Democratic Leadership comes from the fringe, not the center, that's just how you guy's are. Try more moderate leadership, it doesn't stifle the message, it's not taking voice away from the fringe. It promotes more balanced flow. Stop blaming us on the Right for your Party failures, and take your Party back.

1) Around the rest of the world, Obama is seen as a moderate.
2) And he is
3) Dems and liberals are not saying his policies are failures, the right is, so why do they need to take something 'back', that they don't see as having been taken in the first place?

 

[Intense]

Yeah, he was leading but then the voters gotta a load of Palin and he kinda freaked out when the economy tanked.

Poor McCain. He had the juice in 2000 to win the thing but dubya went and hammered him in dixie.

So it goes.

McCain never lead, he got a jump when he brought Sarah on.

McCain is and alway's has been his own worst Enemy. Those that chose him, gave the Election away. Hillary probably would have beaten him too. I know at the time it didn't seem likely, and that opened the door for Obama, but McCain would have screwed it up.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

So, if what you're saying is true, and Obama and the Democrats have been so successful, please explain why over 60 Democrats got shit caned in the House due to the elections this week? Apparently, there are a lot of Americans that don't believe the same way as you do. Stand by for 2012 and watch another load of worthless Democrats hit the road, Jack.

Parties in power almost always lose the off year elections.

Pure rationalization on your part. The Democrats lost an historic number of seats in the House on Tuesday, plus several seats in the Senate, a number of governorships and 500 state legislative seats. Trying to wave it off as a typical off year election is absurd.

It's been 100 plus years since the Republicans controlled the General assembly