Obama has done a good job as president

[The Rabbi]

The OP is right. Obama is our most accomplished president. He won the Nobel Peace Prize even though he never did anything at all to deserve it. He brought the Olympic Games to Chicago--oh. Never mind on that one.
He created many jobs. For Republicans running for elective office.
He cut government. That is, he reduced Democratic staffs by throwing them out of office.
He was a uniter. The GOP has never been more unified.
He stood up to our enemies. If Britain, Poland, the Czech Republic, and Israel are our enemies.
He forged closer relations with our friends. If Iran and North Korea are our friends.
He urged business to create jobs. In India.
He and his wife set a new tone in Washington. We've got ours, everyone else can go fuck themselves.

I have a feeling the next two years will bring even more examples of the shining blunder than is Obama!

 

[Sallow]

President Obama has done an outstanding job...much like Clinton.

Bush should have been thrown in the clink with the rest of the criminals...that trashed the United States Constitution.

Which conservatives..of course..hate.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

if anyone should be laid off it's the admin.

There aint enough of those positions to cover the shortfall in revenues the states faced and are facing.

The rest of your post is content free.

Yet you never hear of them saying were are going to layoff the admin, which means it's just a fear tatic.
the rest of my post is content free?
Translation I haven't gotten a rebuttal for your comments.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

President Obama has done an outstanding job...much like Clinton.

Bush should have been thrown in the clink with the rest of the criminals...that trashed the United States Constitution.

Which conservatives..of course..hate.

Wait for it..........

 

[Annie]

Yes it would have busted those UAW contracts

Funny that the UAW is still there and GM is now profitable isn't it?

fear tatic.

Yeah, nothing but a fear tactic. Its not like 1/3 of the stim was direct grants to the states or anything.

The government has always taken care of those things

So, the infractruture spending is good?

they are still in bad shape.

So we need more infrastructure spending?

I love how the pencil fairy magically sweaped 50,000 combat troops away and made them something they were not

Ummm, how many were there when Obama took office? Hmmmm?

Who says they aren't?

The president. One administration supported torture, the next abolished it. That is a good thing, yes?

Ummm, GM profitable?

PostPartisan - The GM bailout's ambiguous success

The GM bailout's ambiguous success

As if former Obama administration car bailout meister Steven Rattner didn’t have enough problems already, there are new indications that the federal rescue of General Motors may not be quite the “unambiguous success” Rattner touted in his insider's account.

I am not referring to the recent flap over the plug-in electric hybrid Chevy Volt’s technology, in which mechanics mavens are taking GM to task for neglecting to tell the public that the car uses its back-up gasoline engine to turn the wheels more often than previously implied. This is bad publicity, to be sure. And since the Volt is, in my view, basically a publicity stunt rather than a serious bid for market share, the kerfuffle doesn’t help GM. But it’s not fundamental.

No, the bad news for GM, and the taxpayers who own most of it, came in a little-noticed October 6 report from Fitch, the ratings agency, which highlighted the major unresolved issue of the bailout: pension obligations to its United Auto Workers employees. The union successfully resisted efforts to trim this long-term burden on the company through the bankruptcy process, and they continue to weigh heavily on the company’s future.

Specifically, GM’s relatively robust free cash position – one of its major selling points in its pending IPO – is being artificially propped up by the fact that it is not yet legally required to make multi-billion-dollar payments into its “heavily underfunded” U.S. pension funds. How underfunded are they? Well, the U.S. plans alone are $17 billion underfunded as of the end of 2009, Fitch says. When you include global operations, the total is $27 billion.

And that is a conservative estimate, Fitch notes, because interest rates and rates of return on the pension fund's assets are likely to remain low for quite a while. Factoring in lower interest rates that prevailed in the first half of 2010, GM’s pension obligations are actually $6 billion higher than they appeared at the end of 2009.

Oh, and did we mention market share? Long term, the bailout can't work unless the public buys GM’s cars. But the company's share of the U.S. market was 19 percent in September 2010, down from 19.6 percent at the beginning of the year.

Hence, Fitch says, GM’s bonds deserve a “junk” rating: BB-. That, too, is not a big surprise. But it does suggest that the success of the bailout is still, well, ambiguous. GM is not out of the woods yet, and neither are the taxpayers.

 

[Moon]

So, if what you're saying is true, and Obama and the Democrats have been so successful, please explain why over 60 Democrats got shit caned in the House due to the elections this week? Apparently, there are a lot of Americans that don't believe the same way as you do. Stand by for 2012 and watch another load of worthless Democrats hit the road, Jack.

Parties in power almost always lose the off year elections.

Pure rationalization on your part. The Democrats lost an historic number of seats in the House on Tuesday, plus several seats in the Senate, a number of governorships and 500 state legislative seats. Trying to wave it off as a typical off year election is absurd.

 

[rdean]

It would have been better he did nothing.

Really? America would be better off without GM? Without the millions of jobs that GM represents?

The country would be better off with hundreds of thousands of teachers, police and fire fighters laid off?

The country would be better off without the infrastructure that was built?

The country would be better off with a couple of hundred thousand combat troops in Iraq?

The country would be better off if we were still toturing people?

You did exactly what i expected. You offered a bit of tripe and instead of offering what you would have done differently, you offered to go on vacation. As suspected, you got nuthin'. Unless that's really you up front with the blonde hair and the, well, umm, shapely upper half. if that's the case, you got all you need.

Marry well.

Really? America would be better off without GM? Without the millions of jobs that GM represents?

Yes it would have busted those UAW contracts, after all democrats have already shown they do not care for certain contracts.



Funny how liberals always use this as a fear tatic. maybe if they laidoff those admins before they actually hit the ground pounders. North Carolina govco is famous for that and we have a thing called the education lotto the monney was supposed to go only to schools and they are still going to close schools and lay teachers off. That lie is starting to become very old and worn out.



The government has always taken care of those things and they are still in bad shape.

The country would be better off with a couple of hundred thousand combat troops in Iraq?

Yep I love how the pencil fairy magically sweaped 50,000 combat troops away and made them something they were not

The country would be better off if we were still toturing people?

Who says they aren't? Has gitmo closed yet?

The stuff you write is always so strange. But this really caught my eye:

The country would be better off without the infrastructure that was built?
The government has always taken care of those things and they are still in bad shape.

During Bush's 8 years almost nothing was spent on infrastructure because it was being spent on Iraq.

Gov. Tim Pawlenty said the bridge was on a list of 70,000 to 80,000 bridges across the country that federal investigators classified as "structurally impaired." He said there is an additional 70,000 bridges across the country in a lower category, designated as "functionally obsolete."

Bridge Collapse in Minnesota: Many Dead, Tens Injured, more Missing in Minneapolis Disaster

So we shouldn't fix them? Is that what you are saying?

 

[hipeter924]

It would have been better he did nothing.

Really? America would be better off without GM? Without the millions of jobs that GM represents?

The country would be better off with hundreds of thousands of teachers, police and fire fighters laid off?

The country would be better off without the infrastructure that was built?

The country would be better off with a couple of hundred thousand combat troops in Iraq?

The country would be better off if we were still toturing people?

You did exactly what i expected. You offered a bit of tripe and instead of offering what you would have done differently, you offered to go on vacation. As suspected, you got nuthin'. Unless that's really you up front with the blonde hair and the, well, umm, shapely upper half. if that's the case, you got all you need.

Marry well.

Yes it would have busted those UAW contracts, after all democrats have already shown they do not care for certain contracts.



Funny how liberals always use this as a fear tatic. maybe if they laidoff those admins before they actually hit the ground pounders. North Carolina govco is famous for that and we have a thing called the education lotto the monney was supposed to go only to schools and they are still going to close schools and lay teachers off. That lie is starting to become very old and worn out.



The government has always taken care of those things and they are still in bad shape.



Yep I love how the pencil fairy magically sweaped 50,000 combat troops away and made them something they were not

The country would be better off if we were still toturing people?

Who says they aren't? Has gitmo closed yet?

The stuff you write is always so strange. But this really caught my eye:

The country would be better off without the infrastructure that was built?
The government has always taken care of those things and they are still in bad shape.

During Bush's 8 years almost nothing was spent on infrastructure because it was being spent on Iraq.

Gov. Tim Pawlenty said the bridge was on a list of 70,000 to 80,000 bridges across the country that federal investigators classified as "structurally impaired." He said there is an additional 70,000 bridges across the country in a lower category, designated as "functionally obsolete."

Bridge Collapse in Minnesota: Many Dead, Tens Injured, more Missing in Minneapolis Disaster

So we shouldn't fix them? Is that what you are saying?

Yet you hate State Capitalism, and follow the EU, why is that?

Singapore:

UK, really nice potholes there:

 

[bigrebnc1775]

It would have been better he did nothing.

Really? America would be better off without GM? Without the millions of jobs that GM represents?

The country would be better off with hundreds of thousands of teachers, police and fire fighters laid off?

The country would be better off without the infrastructure that was built?

The country would be better off with a couple of hundred thousand combat troops in Iraq?

The country would be better off if we were still toturing people?

You did exactly what i expected. You offered a bit of tripe and instead of offering what you would have done differently, you offered to go on vacation. As suspected, you got nuthin'. Unless that's really you up front with the blonde hair and the, well, umm, shapely upper half. if that's the case, you got all you need.

Marry well.

Yes it would have busted those UAW contracts, after all democrats have already shown they do not care for certain contracts.



Funny how liberals always use this as a fear tatic. maybe if they laidoff those admins before they actually hit the ground pounders. North Carolina govco is famous for that and we have a thing called the education lotto the monney was supposed to go only to schools and they are still going to close schools and lay teachers off. That lie is starting to become very old and worn out.



The government has always taken care of those things and they are still in bad shape.



Yep I love how the pencil fairy magically sweaped 50,000 combat troops away and made them something they were not

The country would be better off if we were still toturing people?

Who says they aren't? Has gitmo closed yet?

The stuff you write is always so strange. But this really caught my eye:

The country would be better off without the infrastructure that was built?
The government has always taken care of those things and they are still in bad shape.

During Bush's 8 years almost nothing was spent on infrastructure because it was being spent on Iraq.

Gov. Tim Pawlenty said the bridge was on a list of 70,000 to 80,000 bridges across the country that federal investigators classified as "structurally impaired." He said there is an additional 70,000 bridges across the country in a lower category, designated as "functionally obsolete."

Bridge Collapse in Minnesota: Many Dead, Tens Injured, more Missing in Minneapolis Disaster

So we shouldn't fix them? Is that what you are saying?

The stuff you write is always so strange. But this really caught my eye

The stuff I write would be strange to you since you do not live in reality. It very natural and I understand. But nothing you write is normal.

Are those bridges being repaired now? come back when you have an answer and a credible link

 

[GWV5903]

Yes it would have busted those UAW contracts

Funny that the UAW is still there and GM is now profitable isn't it?

fear tatic.

Yeah, nothing but a fear tactic. Its not like 1/3 of the stim was direct grants to the states or anything.

The government has always taken care of those things

So, the infractruture spending is good?

they are still in bad shape.

So we need more infrastructure spending?

I love how the pencil fairy magically sweaped 50,000 combat troops away and made them something they were not

Ummm, how many were there when Obama took office? Hmmmm?

Who says they aren't?

The president. One administration supported torture, the next abolished it. That is a good thing, yes?

Ummm, GM profitable?

PostPartisan - The GM bailout's ambiguous success

The GM bailout's ambiguous success

As if former Obama administration car bailout meister Steven Rattner didn’t have enough problems already, there are new indications that the federal rescue of General Motors may not be quite the “unambiguous success” Rattner touted in his insider's account.

I am not referring to the recent flap over the plug-in electric hybrid Chevy Volt’s technology, in which mechanics mavens are taking GM to task for neglecting to tell the public that the car uses its back-up gasoline engine to turn the wheels more often than previously implied. This is bad publicity, to be sure. And since the Volt is, in my view, basically a publicity stunt rather than a serious bid for market share, the kerfuffle doesn’t help GM. But it’s not fundamental.

No, the bad news for GM, and the taxpayers who own most of it, came in a little-noticed October 6 report from Fitch, the ratings agency, which highlighted the major unresolved issue of the bailout: pension obligations to its United Auto Workers employees. The union successfully resisted efforts to trim this long-term burden on the company through the bankruptcy process, and they continue to weigh heavily on the company’s future.

Specifically, GM’s relatively robust free cash position – one of its major selling points in its pending IPO – is being artificially propped up by the fact that it is not yet legally required to make multi-billion-dollar payments into its “heavily underfunded” U.S. pension funds. How underfunded are they? Well, the U.S. plans alone are $17 billion underfunded as of the end of 2009, Fitch says. When you include global operations, the total is $27 billion.

And that is a conservative estimate, Fitch notes, because interest rates and rates of return on the pension fund's assets are likely to remain low for quite a while. Factoring in lower interest rates that prevailed in the first half of 2010, GM’s pension obligations are actually $6 billion higher than they appeared at the end of 2009.

Oh, and did we mention market share? Long term, the bailout can't work unless the public buys GM’s cars. But the company's share of the U.S. market was 19 percent in September 2010, down from 19.6 percent at the beginning of the year.

Hence, Fitch says, GM’s bonds deserve a “junk” rating: BB-. That, too, is not a big surprise. But it does suggest that the success of the bailout is still, well, ambiguous. GM is not out of the woods yet, and neither are the taxpayers.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.....

Sad how our Tax Dollars rescued the UAW's ass for a few more years.....

Nothing about the Total Bailout of GM will add up to a long term viable company until the UAW takes less, much less.....

I have no pity for the UAW, none.....

 

[Sallow]

So we shouldn't fix them? Is that what you are saying?

Yet you hate State Capitalism, and follow the EU, why is that?

[/QUOTE]

You do know that Singapore is essentially part of of an autocratic state, right?

Meritocracy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Intense]

Obama has done a good job as president. The jobs and tax cut bill saved millions of jobs. The restructing of GM worked...it is now a profitable company. The bank bailout which Bush and Obama both worked on brought stability to the markets, and the vast majority of the money lent to the banks has already been repaid. Healthcare reform was long overdue and made it through Congress in spite of one of the most dishonest campaigns against it by the corporate media and the Republicans. Most of our troops have left Iraq, and our image in the world has been restored. The only thing Obama has done wrong is he has been too soft on the Republicans, the most lying, cheating, stealing, political party that only a corporate lobbyist for Haliburton could love.

Fail. The books are cooked.

 

[Flopper]

so, if what you're saying is true, and obama and the democrats have been so successful, please explain why over 60 democrats got shit caned in the house due to the elections this week? Apparently, there are a lot of americans that don't believe the same way as you do. Stand by for 2012 and watch another load of worthless democrats hit the road, jack.

parties in power almost always lose the off year elections.

Plus the economy was almost destroyed by bush the lesser, and until it comes back completely, the populace will always blame whoever is in power. The public has a very short memory.

party's in power only get shit canned when they piss the people off the demnocrats did it big time this has not happen since the 30's

With only four exceptions, EVERY single President since Lincoln has lost seats in the House in the midterm elections. Had there been no recession, he would have lost seats, but would probably not have lost the House.



Midterm elections - history lesson - reality check

 

[bigrebnc1775]

So we shouldn't fix them? Is that what you are saying?

Yet you hate State Capitalism, and follow the EU, why is that?

You do know that Singapore is essentially part of of an autocratic state, right?

Meritocracy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/QUOTE]

yo're asking the wrong person hipeter did not write that.

 

[GWV5903]

So we shouldn't fix them? Is that what you are saying?

Yet you hate State Capitalism, and follow the EU, why is that?

You do know that Singapore is essentially part of of an autocratic state, right?

Meritocracy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/QUOTE]

Actually, Singapore is a Benevolent Dictatorship, there is some merit to that.....

 

[Moon]

parties in power almost always lose the off year elections.

Plus the economy was almost destroyed by bush the lesser, and until it comes back completely, the populace will always blame whoever is in power. The public has a very short memory.

party's in power only get shit canned when they piss the people off the demnocrats did it big time this has not happen since the 30's

With only four exceptions, EVERY single President since Lincoln has lost seats in the House in the midterm elections. Had there been no recession, he would have lost seats, but would probably not have lost the House.



Midterm elections - history lesson - reality check

I'm sure you can rationalize the lost governorships and state legislatures too.

 

[Intense]

So we shouldn't fix them? Is that what you are saying?

Yet you hate State Capitalism, and follow the EU, why is that?

You do know that Singapore is essentially part of of an autocratic state, right?

Meritocracy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Actually, Singapore is a Benevolent Dictatorship, there is some merit to that.....[/QUOTE]

Until you get a Dictator with a bad disposition or a bug up his ass.

 

[GWV5903]

Yet you hate State Capitalism, and follow the EU, why is that?

You do know that Singapore is essentially part of of an autocratic state, right?

Meritocracy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Actually, Singapore is a Benevolent Dictatorship, there is some merit to that.....

Until you get a Dictator with a bad disposition or a bug up his ass.[/QUOTE]

Very true, benevolence is a must, they have no poverty, either you work or leave, I do like that concept....

 

[Harry Dresden]

You'll be hard pressed to come up with anything he's done that is actually bad.

how about LEADING the fucking Country?.....you dont lead by pissing off half the country with your remarks about them and expect them to show you respect....when Clinton left office we had a divide,but it was no worse then what it was before him,but it was starting.....when Bush left the divide was a huge chasm......now its the fucking GRAND CANYON.....the last 2 Presidents have been 2 of the worst leaders i have experienced in my lifetime.....and the sad part is....this Country NEEDS someone,right now, to lift this place up and close that Canyon,or this party may be over......and i dont see anyone out there that looks like someone who is for this Country over their fucking party....

 

[Sallow]

Actually, Singapore is a Benevolent Dictatorship, there is some merit to that.....

I'd expect a conservative to say that.

That is poison to an Freedom Loving, United States Constitution following American.

Thanks for the clarity.

Liberals LOVE the United States Constiution, folks. Conservative HATE the United States Constitution.