NYC $15 minimum wage hurting restaurants

[Toddsterpatriot]

You, for years, made your claim, and never posted proof.
I'm glad you finally either realized there is no proof or just admitted you never had any proof.
Where did I lie?

ToddsterPatriot, you continue contending that I denyed my lack of proof in this matter. I respond with your own words, "prove it". If you cannot prove it, by the standards you profess to uphold, you're a liar

ToddsterPatriot, you continue contending that I denyed my lack of proof in this matter

AFAIK, until post #68 here >>>>>> NYC $15 minimum wage hurting restaurants

You never admitted you had no proof.

 

[OnePercenter]

Anyone surprised?

Gabriela’s isn’t alone. In a survey of 324 full-service restaurants, the New York City Hospitality Alliance found that 76.5 percent of respondents cut staff hours and 36.3 percent eliminated jobs, including whole layers of middle management, in response to mandated wage increases.

“It’s death by a thousand cuts,” says Andrew Rigie, executive director of the group. “The minimum wage increases put pressure on small businesses. They are well-intended but unsustainable. There’s only so many times you can increase the price of a burger and a bowl of pasta.”

Philippe Massoud, CEO and executive chef of the Manhattan-based Lebanese eateries Ilili and Ilili Box, says rising wages have forced him to cut hours for his 180 employees, yank labor-intensive dishes from the menu and cut back on staff education events like wine seminars.

The rent doesn’t go down. The food doesn’t cost less. Customers aren’t going to pay higher prices.

What does the Loony Left expect?

More @ https://nypost.com/2019/09/29/15-minimum-wage-hike-is-hitting-hurting-nyc-restaurants/

Rent control!

 

[Wyatt earp]

Anyone surprised?

Gabriela’s isn’t alone. In a survey of 324 full-service restaurants, the New York City Hospitality Alliance found that 76.5 percent of respondents cut staff hours and 36.3 percent eliminated jobs, including whole layers of middle management, in response to mandated wage increases.

“It’s death by a thousand cuts,” says Andrew Rigie, executive director of the group. “The minimum wage increases put pressure on small businesses. They are well-intended but unsustainable. There’s only so many times you can increase the price of a burger and a bowl of pasta.”

Philippe Massoud, CEO and executive chef of the Manhattan-based Lebanese eateries Ilili and Ilili Box, says rising wages have forced him to cut hours for his 180 employees, yank labor-intensive dishes from the menu and cut back on staff education events like wine seminars.

The rent doesn’t go down. The food doesn’t cost less. Customers aren’t going to pay higher prices.

What does the Loony Left expect?

More @ https://nypost.com/2019/09/29/15-minimum-wage-hike-is-hitting-hurting-nyc-restaurants/

Rent control!

So you pass the expense to landlords and expect them to eat it?

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[OnePercenter]

Anyone surprised?

Gabriela’s isn’t alone. In a survey of 324 full-service restaurants, the New York City Hospitality Alliance found that 76.5 percent of respondents cut staff hours and 36.3 percent eliminated jobs, including whole layers of middle management, in response to mandated wage increases.

“It’s death by a thousand cuts,” says Andrew Rigie, executive director of the group. “The minimum wage increases put pressure on small businesses. They are well-intended but unsustainable. There’s only so many times you can increase the price of a burger and a bowl of pasta.”

Philippe Massoud, CEO and executive chef of the Manhattan-based Lebanese eateries Ilili and Ilili Box, says rising wages have forced him to cut hours for his 180 employees, yank labor-intensive dishes from the menu and cut back on staff education events like wine seminars.

The rent doesn’t go down. The food doesn’t cost less. Customers aren’t going to pay higher prices.

What does the Loony Left expect?

More @ https://nypost.com/2019/09/29/15-minimum-wage-hike-is-hitting-hurting-nyc-restaurants/

Rent control!

So you pass the expense to landlords and expect them to eat it?

A little less profit is an expense?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Anyone surprised?

Gabriela’s isn’t alone. In a survey of 324 full-service restaurants, the New York City Hospitality Alliance found that 76.5 percent of respondents cut staff hours and 36.3 percent eliminated jobs, including whole layers of middle management, in response to mandated wage increases.

“It’s death by a thousand cuts,” says Andrew Rigie, executive director of the group. “The minimum wage increases put pressure on small businesses. They are well-intended but unsustainable. There’s only so many times you can increase the price of a burger and a bowl of pasta.”

Philippe Massoud, CEO and executive chef of the Manhattan-based Lebanese eateries Ilili and Ilili Box, says rising wages have forced him to cut hours for his 180 employees, yank labor-intensive dishes from the menu and cut back on staff education events like wine seminars.

The rent doesn’t go down. The food doesn’t cost less. Customers aren’t going to pay higher prices.

What does the Loony Left expect?

More @ https://nypost.com/2019/09/29/15-minimum-wage-hike-is-hitting-hurting-nyc-restaurants/

Rent control!

So you pass the expense to landlords and expect them to eat it?

A little less profit is an expense?

And the decision is yours?

So much for freedom, eh?

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[Toddsterpatriot]

Anyone surprised?

Gabriela’s isn’t alone. In a survey of 324 full-service restaurants, the New York City Hospitality Alliance found that 76.5 percent of respondents cut staff hours and 36.3 percent eliminated jobs, including whole layers of middle management, in response to mandated wage increases.

“It’s death by a thousand cuts,” says Andrew Rigie, executive director of the group. “The minimum wage increases put pressure on small businesses. They are well-intended but unsustainable. There’s only so many times you can increase the price of a burger and a bowl of pasta.”

Philippe Massoud, CEO and executive chef of the Manhattan-based Lebanese eateries Ilili and Ilili Box, says rising wages have forced him to cut hours for his 180 employees, yank labor-intensive dishes from the menu and cut back on staff education events like wine seminars.

The rent doesn’t go down. The food doesn’t cost less. Customers aren’t going to pay higher prices.

What does the Loony Left expect?

More @ https://nypost.com/2019/09/29/15-minimum-wage-hike-is-hitting-hurting-nyc-restaurants/

Rent control!

You're free to buy space and charge below market rents.

 

[Supposn]

ToddsterPatriot, you continue contending that I denyed my lack of proof in this matter
AFAIK, until post #68 here >>>>>> NYC $15 minimum wage hurting restaurants
You never admitted you had no proof.

Toddsterpatriot, I never denied it.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

ToddsterPatriot, you continue contending that I denyed my lack of proof in this matter
AFAIK, until post #68 here >>>>>> NYC $15 minimum wage hurting restaurants
You never admitted you had no proof.

Toddsterpatriot, I never denied it.

Baloney.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Anyone surprised?

Gabriela’s isn’t alone. In a survey of 324 full-service restaurants, the New York City Hospitality Alliance found that 76.5 percent of respondents cut staff hours and 36.3 percent eliminated jobs, including whole layers of middle management, in response to mandated wage increases.

“It’s death by a thousand cuts,” says Andrew Rigie, executive director of the group. “The minimum wage increases put pressure on small businesses. They are well-intended but unsustainable. There’s only so many times you can increase the price of a burger and a bowl of pasta.”

Philippe Massoud, CEO and executive chef of the Manhattan-based Lebanese eateries Ilili and Ilili Box, says rising wages have forced him to cut hours for his 180 employees, yank labor-intensive dishes from the menu and cut back on staff education events like wine seminars.

The rent doesn’t go down. The food doesn’t cost less. Customers aren’t going to pay higher prices.

What does the Loony Left expect?

More @ https://nypost.com/2019/09/29/15-minimum-wage-hike-is-hitting-hurting-nyc-restaurants/

It's all nyc had left
Independent joints that attracted the most talented chefs from around the nation and planet

15 dollars an hour for wait and other staff will kill em

 

[Supposn]

... @ https://nypost.com/2019/09/29/15-minimum-wage-hike-is-hitting-hurting-nyc-restaurants/

Longknife, the question shouldn't be net effect of NYC's $15/Hr minimum rate's effect upon individual enterprises or even their entire restaurant industry, but rather the effects upon their entire net economy. The answer is it's of net benefit to their economy.

Respectfully, Supposn

 

[Wyatt earp]

... @ https://nypost.com/2019/09/29/15-minimum-wage-hike-is-hitting-hurting-nyc-restaurants/

Longknife, the question shouldn't be net effect of NYC's $15/Hr minimum rate's effect upon individual enterprises or even their entire restaurant industry, but rather the effects upon their entire net economy. The answer is it's of net benefit to their economy.

Respectfully, Supposn

You read that new article about Target?


They are raising their minimum to $15 and cutting hours so much so that employees will be below the 30 hours required for health benefits at target.


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[Supposn]

You read that new article about Target?
They are raising their minimum to $15 and cutting hours so much so that employees will be below the 30 hours required for health benefits at target.

Bear513, what new article about Target?
You're intermingling the consequences of two different sets of laws, the federal Affordable Care Act and NYC's minimum wage laws.

It's in the nature of all individual entities to do what their nature or their intelligence drives them to consider what's in their best interests. Regardless of whatever is NYC's minimum wage rate, Target does whatever they consider to be in their own best interests. The minimum wage rate is just one of the factors that Target considers.

There's now greater demand for retail clerks, cashiers, and stock handlers in the NYC area. Target has to prepare for the Christmas season. Possibly they're overstaffed now, but after Thanksgiving, they may have to ask or plead for their employees to work full-time.

Note that Target did are not "raising THEIR minimum"; that's been the NYC minimum rate since last New Years day. Due to wage differentials, that significantly helped increasing all lower and most middle wage rates throughout the entire NYC and some of eastern NJ areas.

Respectfully, Supposn

 

[Wyatt earp]

You read that new article about Target?
They are raising their minimum to $15 and cutting hours so much so that employees will be below the 30 hours required for health benefits at target.

Bear513, what new article about Target?
You're intermingling the consequences of two different sets of laws, the federal Affordable Care Act and NYC's minimum wage laws.

It's in the nature of all individual entities to do what their nature or their intelligence drives them to consider what's in their best interests. Regardless of whatever is NYC's minimum wage rate, Target does whatever they consider to be in their own best interests. The minimum wage rate is just one of the factors that Target considers.

There's now greater demand for retail clerks, cashiers, and stock handlers in the NYC area. Target has to prepare for the Christmas season. Possibly they're overstaffed now, but after Thanksgiving, they may have to ask or plead for their employees to work full-time.

Respectfully, Supposn

I posted a thread on it with the link down in the general discussion forums yesterday, I think.

 

[Wyatt earp]

You read that new article about Target?
They are raising their minimum to $15 and cutting hours so much so that employees will be below the 30 hours required for health benefits at target.

Bear513, what new article about Target?
You're intermingling the consequences of two different sets of laws, the federal Affordable Care Act and NYC's minimum wage laws.

It's in the nature of all individual entities to do what their nature or their intelligence drives them to consider what's in their best interests. Regardless of whatever is NYC's minimum wage rate, Target does whatever they consider to be in their own best interests. The minimum wage rate is just one of the factors that Target considers.

There's now greater demand for retail clerks, cashiers, and stock handlers in the NYC area. Target has to prepare for the Christmas season. Possibly they're overstaffed now, but after Thanksgiving, they may have to ask or plead for their employees to work full-time.

Respectfully, Supposn

I posted a thread on it with the link down in the general discussion forums yesterday, I think.

Edit: Another link with Targets reply..


Some Target Workers Allege Decreased Hours After Minimum Wage Raise – WCCO | CBS Minnesota

 

[Supposn]

You read that new article about Target?
They are raising their minimum to $15 and cutting hours so much so that employees will be below the 30 hours required for health benefits at target.

Bear513, what new article about Target?
You're intermingling the consequences of two different sets of laws, the federal Affordable Care Act and NYC's minimum wage laws. ... There's now greater demand for retail clerks, cashiers, and stock handlers in the NYC area. Target has to prepare for the Christmas season. Possibly they're overstaffed now, but after Thanksgiving, they may have to ask or plead for their employees to work full-time. ...

I posted a thread on it with the link down in the general discussion forums yesterday, I think.
Edit: Another link with Targets reply..
Some Target Workers Allege Decreased Hours After Minimum Wage Raise – WCCO | CBS Minnesota

Bear513, you're quoting a Minnesota twin city TV station in regard to what's happening in NYC? Is or is not Target actually reducing employee hours in NYC? Respectfully, Supposn

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You read that new article about Target?
They are raising their minimum to $15 and cutting hours so much so that employees will be below the 30 hours required for health benefits at target.

Bear513, what new article about Target?
You're intermingling the consequences of two different sets of laws, the federal Affordable Care Act and NYC's minimum wage laws. ... There's now greater demand for retail clerks, cashiers, and stock handlers in the NYC area. Target has to prepare for the Christmas season. Possibly they're overstaffed now, but after Thanksgiving, they may have to ask or plead for their employees to work full-time. ...

I posted a thread on it with the link down in the general discussion forums yesterday, I think.
Edit: Another link with Targets reply..
Some Target Workers Allege Decreased Hours After Minimum Wage Raise – WCCO | CBS Minnesota

Bear513, you're quoting a Minnesota twin city TV station in regard to what's happening in NYC? Is or is not Target actually reducing employee hours in NYC? Respectfully, Supposn

Bear513, you're quoting a Minnesota twin city TV station in regard to what's happening in NYC?

Target corporate headquarters is in Minneapolis.

 

[HenryBHough]

Coffee shop here raised prices as though they had also raised wages to $15/hour. Also forced servers to share their tips with cooks and diswashers.

Trade went to a new coffee shop 2 blocks away. It pays $10/hour but allows servers to keep their tips.

Customers moved with the best servers from the first shop because the "living wage" paid servers in the first shop suddenly were non-English speaking and incompetent.

There's a lesson in that somewhere. I mean, there is the currently near-empty first-instance coffee shop.

 

[Supposn]

Coffee shop here raised prices as though they had also raised wages to $15/hour. Also forced servers to share their tips with cooks and diswashers.

Trade went to a new coffee shop 2 blocks away. It pays $10/hour but allows servers to keep their tips.

Customers moved with the best servers from the first shop because the "living wage" paid servers in the first shop suddenly were non-English speaking and incompetent.

There's a lesson in that somewhere. I mean, there is the currently near-empty first-instance coffee shop.

HenryBHough, the lesson was waitresses had an available option.

They left to fully retain their tips rather than subsidize the cook's and dishwasher's poor wage rate. Management was acting contrary to the market and they screwed themselves. Respectfully, Supposn

 

[Supposn]

Target corporate headquarters is in Minneapolis.

Bear513, WCCO audience’s in the twin cities. I doubt if their audience is interested in Target’s NYC doings. Why would WCCO waste broadcasting time to report upon NYC’s economy?

The $15/Hr minimum works fine in NYC. Respectfully, Supposn

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Target corporate headquarters is in Minneapolis.

Bear513, WCCO audience’s in the twin cities. I doubt if their audience is interested in Target’s NYC doings. Why would WCCO waste broadcasting time to report upon NYC’s economy?

The $15/Hr minimum works fine in NYC. Respectfully, Supposn

WCCO audience’s in the twin cities. I doubt if their audience is interested in Target’s NYC doings.

The local audience is interested in the huge local corporation.