NSA has massive database of Americans' phone calls

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    Abso-freakin-lutely wrong. There is no justification for this program. The only bright spot is that my phone company, Qwest, stood up to the Feds.

    The National Security Agency has been secretly collecting the phone call records of tens of millions of Americans, using data provided by AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth, people with direct knowledge of the arrangement told USA TODAY.

    The NSA program reaches into homes and businesses across the nation by amassing information about the calls of ordinary Americans - most of whom aren't suspected of any crime. This program does not involve the NSA listening to or recording conversations. But the spy agency is using the data to analyze calling patterns in an effort to detect terrorist activity, sources said in separate interviews.

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    Everyone should be screaming from the rafter about this one. It's inexcusable.
     
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    Still on the terrorists side I see. Sad.
     
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    I guess that makes Jeff on their side, too?
     
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    I think thats why they timed the release of this information to coincide with Haydens' confirmation process. Just because somebody thinks I should be screaming doesn't mean I will. Handcuffing the law breeds criminals.
     
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    Collecting intelligence is a very fine line.
    Requesting ALL records for every user is different because it does not
    target any certain groups. Is it legal - yes, Is it right - no.
    Do I care - no.
     
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    It isn't legal. The Constitution requires probable cause before the government is entitled to do a search. Under certain rare exceptions, such as exigent circumstances, where a warrant isn't needed.

    Saying it's okay because you like the guys doing it is dangerous. Someday someone you don't like will have that power.

    What separates us from a banana republic if our citizens' privacy can be violated with impunity just because the president yells "terrorism"?

    If someone is believed to be a terrorist...go after them. This garbage about people being pro-terrorist if they don't believe in government tyranny doesn't fly. So ... :chillpill
     
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    Objecting to collecting everyone's phone records - including most innocent Americans who are not charged or suspected of a crime - is being on the terrorists' side?? :wtf: :cuckoo:

    Bush is over the line on this one.
     
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    The slippery slope argument is garbage----if ANY innocent is convicted on evidence obtained in this manner I will scream. Until then they collect away as far as I'm concerned.
     
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    On what grounds may the government collect this information?
     

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