NRA opposes Fla move to raise age for rifles to 21, the same age for other firearms.

[debbiedowner]

It's a useless change in the law that will accomplish nothing. It's security theater and nothing more.

If you don't want schools to be shot up with an AR15 type weapon, then don't sell them. It's that simple.

Actually, I kinda want schools not to be shot up with ANY weapon, but since disarming law-abiding people won't accomplish that, your demands are not helpful.

Leftists are so naive. You don't sell certain guns and poof! No one can get them! You know, like drugs! Idiots

The Mexican drug gangs, with their Mexican police and army allies are putting up gun factories in the areas they control...they are making fully automatic rifles all on their own.....no serial numbers are on these weapons.......just across our border....

Yes, just like they import drugs to the United States. What cracks me up is when leftists call everyone else naive and not living in the real world

What cracks me up is righties sit in their chairs at home surrounded by their guns and have become scaredy cats. Must be hell laying in bed at night and hear a creek in your house. It also cracks me up your all so naive.

 

[debbiedowner]

One fucked up 19 year old kid does something really stupid and the knee jerk reaction to it is to curtail the right to keep and bears arms to millions of 18, 19 and 20 year olds that did not commit a crime.

Typical Libtard stupidity.

If the idiot Moon Bats think that 18, 19 and 20 years are too immature to enjoy their Constitutional rights then the young men shouldn't be allowed to serve in the military.

There goes about a third of our military.

It's not a knee jerk reaction. The left plans that and does it intentionally. That's why they've been high fiving each other all week

Bull shit it is not!

Knee jerk as it comes.

One 19 year old kid does something really despicable that the knee jerk reaction from all the Moon Bats is to deny Constitutional rights to 18, 19 and 20 years of which there are millions that are responsible gun owners.

If 18-20 year olds are that irresponsible when it comes to firearms that none of them should every be allowed to own a firearm then we sure as hell shouldn't be letting them into our military, should we?

There are million of very responsible 18-20 year olds in this country that own and shoot firearms and we should not take away their Constitutional rights just because of one demented asshole. What is the matter with you?

We allow that age group to vote, serve in the military, drive and just about everything else so why shouldn't they be afforded their Constitutional rights?

Liberals hate the idea of Liberty and will do everything possible to curtail freedom of the speech, freedom of religion and the right to keep and and bears because it conflicts with their filthy agenda to make America a socialist shithole.

Of course the agenda of filth from the Left is not to just curtail Constitutional rights for the 18-20 year old but for everybody.

This mindless anti gun frenzy over the action of a nut case is a great example of the stupidity of the Left and why we should fight them.

By moonbats do you mean Trump and Scott? Seems like they are the two in the last couple of days calling for this.

 

[debbiedowner]

This thread has become a who's on first, damn it's hard keeping up with taz,kaz and don't taz me. Why don't we have a few more, baz, caz, daz and throw in a wazoo just for the hell of it. lol

 

[Rigby5]

If you don't want schools to be shot up with an AR15 type weapon, then don't sell them. It's that simple.

Actually, I kinda want schools not to be shot up with ANY weapon, but since disarming law-abiding people won't accomplish that, your demands are not helpful.

Leftists are so naive. You don't sell certain guns and poof! No one can get them! You know, like drugs! Idiots

The Mexican drug gangs, with their Mexican police and army allies are putting up gun factories in the areas they control...they are making fully automatic rifles all on their own.....no serial numbers are on these weapons.......just across our border....

Yes, just like they import drugs to the United States. What cracks me up is when leftists call everyone else naive and not living in the real world

What cracks me up is righties sit in their chairs at home surrounded by their guns and have become scaredy cats. Must be hell laying in bed at night and hear a creek in your house. It also cracks me up your all so naive.

I don't know, there seems to be some valid things to be afraid of. For example, a government that would murder over a million innocent Vietnamese, murder over half a million innocent Iraqis, put over half a million US pot smokers in prison, violate the Constitution with federal gun control, etc. I think we already a police state, and it seems to be getting worse.

 

[debbiedowner]

Actually, I kinda want schools not to be shot up with ANY weapon, but since disarming law-abiding people won't accomplish that, your demands are not helpful.

Leftists are so naive. You don't sell certain guns and poof! No one can get them! You know, like drugs! Idiots

The Mexican drug gangs, with their Mexican police and army allies are putting up gun factories in the areas they control...they are making fully automatic rifles all on their own.....no serial numbers are on these weapons.......just across our border....

Yes, just like they import drugs to the United States. What cracks me up is when leftists call everyone else naive and not living in the real world

What cracks me up is righties sit in their chairs at home surrounded by their guns and have become scaredy cats. Must be hell laying in bed at night and hear a creek in your house. It also cracks me up your all so naive.

I don't know, there seems to be some valid things to be afraid of. For example, a government that would murder over a million innocent Vietnamese, murder over half a million innocent Iraqis, put over half a million US pot smokers in prison, violate the Constitution with federal gun control, etc. I think we already a police state, and it seems to be getting worse.

So you're telling me you don't keep the guns because of intruder's but to fend off the government when they break your door down?

 

[Flash]

One fucked up 19 year old kid does something really stupid and the knee jerk reaction to it is to curtail the right to keep and bears arms to millions of 18, 19 and 20 year olds that did not commit a crime.

Typical Libtard stupidity.

If the idiot Moon Bats think that 18, 19 and 20 years are too immature to enjoy their Constitutional rights then the young men shouldn't be allowed to serve in the military.

There goes about a third of our military.

It's not a knee jerk reaction. The left plans that and does it intentionally. That's why they've been high fiving each other all week

Bull shit it is not!

Knee jerk as it comes.

One 19 year old kid does something really despicable that the knee jerk reaction from all the Moon Bats is to deny Constitutional rights to 18, 19 and 20 years of which there are millions that are responsible gun owners.

If 18-20 year olds are that irresponsible when it comes to firearms that none of them should every be allowed to own a firearm then we sure as hell shouldn't be letting them into our military, should we?

There are million of very responsible 18-20 year olds in this country that own and shoot firearms and we should not take away their Constitutional rights just because of one demented asshole. What is the matter with you?

We allow that age group to vote, serve in the military, drive and just about everything else so why shouldn't they be afforded their Constitutional rights?

Liberals hate the idea of Liberty and will do everything possible to curtail freedom of the speech, freedom of religion and the right to keep and and bears because it conflicts with their filthy agenda to make America a socialist shithole.

Of course the agenda of filth from the Left is not to just curtail Constitutional rights for the 18-20 year old but for everybody.

This mindless anti gun frenzy over the action of a nut case is a great example of the stupidity of the Left and why we should fight them.

By moonbats do you mean Trump and Scott? Seems like they are the two in the last couple of days calling for this.

I think we learned from Bush that Liberals come in all shapes and sizes, didn't we?

The curtailment of the right to keep and bear arms is despicable no matter who does it, isn't it?

 

[debbiedowner]

One fucked up 19 year old kid does something really stupid and the knee jerk reaction to it is to curtail the right to keep and bears arms to millions of 18, 19 and 20 year olds that did not commit a crime.

Typical Libtard stupidity.

If the idiot Moon Bats think that 18, 19 and 20 years are too immature to enjoy their Constitutional rights then the young men shouldn't be allowed to serve in the military.

There goes about a third of our military.

It's not a knee jerk reaction. The left plans that and does it intentionally. That's why they've been high fiving each other all week

Bull shit it is not!

Knee jerk as it comes.

One 19 year old kid does something really despicable that the knee jerk reaction from all the Moon Bats is to deny Constitutional rights to 18, 19 and 20 years of which there are millions that are responsible gun owners.

If 18-20 year olds are that irresponsible when it comes to firearms that none of them should every be allowed to own a firearm then we sure as hell shouldn't be letting them into our military, should we?

There are million of very responsible 18-20 year olds in this country that own and shoot firearms and we should not take away their Constitutional rights just because of one demented asshole. What is the matter with you?

We allow that age group to vote, serve in the military, drive and just about everything else so why shouldn't they be afforded their Constitutional rights?

Liberals hate the idea of Liberty and will do everything possible to curtail freedom of the speech, freedom of religion and the right to keep and and bears because it conflicts with their filthy agenda to make America a socialist shithole.

Of course the agenda of filth from the Left is not to just curtail Constitutional rights for the 18-20 year old but for everybody.

This mindless anti gun frenzy over the action of a nut case is a great example of the stupidity of the Left and why we should fight them.

By moonbats do you mean Trump and Scott? Seems like they are the two in the last couple of days calling for this.

I think we learned from Bush that Liberals come in all shapes and sizes, didn't we?

The curtailment of the right to keep and bear arms is despicable no matter who does it, isn't it?

No one is calling for you to surrender your guns, calm down. You can still be a member of the NRA, still carry and keep your guns unless you are under 21 and deemed mentally ill or are called out over a domestic dispute if any of these items get the light of day.

 

[Flash]

One fucked up 19 year old kid does something really stupid and the knee jerk reaction to it is to curtail the right to keep and bears arms to millions of 18, 19 and 20 year olds that did not commit a crime.

Typical Libtard stupidity.

If the idiot Moon Bats think that 18, 19 and 20 years are too immature to enjoy their Constitutional rights then the young men shouldn't be allowed to serve in the military.

There goes about a third of our military.

It's not a knee jerk reaction. The left plans that and does it intentionally. That's why they've been high fiving each other all week

Bull shit it is not!

Knee jerk as it comes.

One 19 year old kid does something really despicable that the knee jerk reaction from all the Moon Bats is to deny Constitutional rights to 18, 19 and 20 years of which there are millions that are responsible gun owners.

If 18-20 year olds are that irresponsible when it comes to firearms that none of them should every be allowed to own a firearm then we sure as hell shouldn't be letting them into our military, should we?

There are million of very responsible 18-20 year olds in this country that own and shoot firearms and we should not take away their Constitutional rights just because of one demented asshole. What is the matter with you?

We allow that age group to vote, serve in the military, drive and just about everything else so why shouldn't they be afforded their Constitutional rights?

Liberals hate the idea of Liberty and will do everything possible to curtail freedom of the speech, freedom of religion and the right to keep and and bears because it conflicts with their filthy agenda to make America a socialist shithole.

Of course the agenda of filth from the Left is not to just curtail Constitutional rights for the 18-20 year old but for everybody.

This mindless anti gun frenzy over the action of a nut case is a great example of the stupidity of the Left and why we should fight them.

By moonbats do you mean Trump and Scott? Seems like they are the two in the last couple of days calling for this.

I think we learned from Bush that Liberals come in all shapes and sizes, didn't we?

The curtailment of the right to keep and bear arms is despicable no matter who does it, isn't it?

No one is calling for you to surrender your guns, calm down. You can still be a member of the NRA, still carry and keep your guns unless you are under 21 and deemed mentally ill or are called out over a domestic dispute if any of these items get the light of day.

You are confused.

Earlier this week the Florida House voted on a bill to ban all semi automatic guns. Fortunately it failed by a good margin because of a Republican super majority but all the filthy ass Democrats voted for it.

Last weekend both the New York Times and the LA Times (mouth pieces for the filthy Democrat Party) advocated abolishing the Second Amendment.

The right to keep and bear arms is a direct threat to the Left's agenda to turn this country into a socialist shithole just like the right of free speech and freedom of religion.

 

[Marion Morrison]

I'm an NRA member and have been for DECADES .. I own more guns than most people have IQ points - I dont own an assault rifle and several 40 round clips because I DONT NEED ONE - and theres not an 18 year old kid on the planet that "NEEDS" one for anything other than slaughtering people .. anyone thats 18 and wants an assault rifle to carry around and look bad ass then go join the Marines and BE BAD ASS. They can hook you up with as many rags as you can handle.

The End

An AR 15 isn't an assault rifle.

Hell darling -- let them focus on ARs.. I like the nice wooden gloss on my SKS. They don't need to know how scary that pretty rifle can be...

PS --- babysitting it for a friend in Cali who didn't want it to be confiscated... He's got a problem now with getting it back..

Back when I bought my 1st gun, my buddy's all: "You should get in on this SKS stuff, $85-$115 for one, you can get magazines and all that.

Wish I woulda, but I was like.. haha! Them little bittie bullets, check out these bullets my gun shoots that are twice the size of yours, and brass.


In the end and all things considered, I did better than I thought I should have.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Why should any current 18 year old be denied the rights I had when when I was 18?

Because some wacko (shoulda already been in Chattahoochee) killed some kids? How fair is that to the current 18 year-olds?

I damn sure bought me a rifle when I turned 18.

It makes me sad to think younger ones may not have the freedom I did.

Something feels "not right" about that. Loss of freedom is not good.

 

[Flash]

I'm an NRA member and have been for DECADES .. I own more guns than most people have IQ points - I dont own an assault rifle and several 40 round clips because I DONT NEED ONE - and theres not an 18 year old kid on the planet that "NEEDS" one for anything other than slaughtering people .. anyone thats 18 and wants an assault rifle to carry around and look bad ass then go join the Marines and BE BAD ASS. They can hook you up with as many rags as you can handle.

The End

An AR 15 isn't an assault rifle.

Hell darling -- let them focus on ARs.. I like the nice wooden gloss on my SKS. They don't need to know how scary that pretty rifle can be...

PS --- babysitting it for a friend in Cali who didn't want it to be confiscated... He's got a problem now with getting it back..

Back when I bought my 1st gun, my buddy's all: "You should get in on this SKS stuff, $85-$115 for one, you can get magazines and all that.

Wish I woulda, but I was like.. haha! Them little bittie bullets, check out these bullets my gun shoots that are twice the size of yours, and brass.


In the end and all things considered, I did better than I thought I should have.

You didn't get a Norinco SKS when they were selling all over the place for less than $100?

Everybody and their little brown dog bought one back then.

7.62 X 39 was also selling for $90/1000. Cheap blasting.

Of course nowadays are the salad days of ARs. Over the holiday sales you could get them for $399.

If they continue to go down in price they will be so cheap that maybe even the inner city thugs will be able to afford the ARs to do all their shooting every night. When that happens the Liberals will shut up about banning ARs because they don't want to do anything to upset their base in these big city shitholes.

 

[Taz]

Nobody is "disarming law-abiding people", you can still be armed, just not with those kinds of weapons. Seems reasonable to me.

Yes, but you are unreasonable, so no one gives a shit about your view.

What's unreasonable about what I said?

 

[Taz]

Actually, I kinda want schools not to be shot up with ANY weapon, but since disarming law-abiding people won't accomplish that, your demands are not helpful.

Leftists are so naive. You don't sell certain guns and poof! No one can get them! You know, like drugs! Idiots

The Mexican drug gangs, with their Mexican police and army allies are putting up gun factories in the areas they control...they are making fully automatic rifles all on their own.....no serial numbers are on these weapons.......just across our border....

Yes, just like they import drugs to the United States. What cracks me up is when leftists call everyone else naive and not living in the real world

What cracks me up is righties sit in their chairs at home surrounded by their guns and have become scaredy cats. Must be hell laying in bed at night and hear a creek in your house. It also cracks me up your all so naive.

I don't know, there seems to be some valid things to be afraid of. For example, a government that would murder over a million innocent Vietnamese, murder over half a million innocent Iraqis, put over half a million US pot smokers in prison, violate the Constitution with federal gun control, etc. I think we already a police state, and it seems to be getting worse.

People with severe paranoia should be disqualified from owning guns. Please do everyone a favour and go and turn yours in.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Why should any current 18 year old be denied the rights I had when when I was 18?

Because some wacko (shoulda already been in Chattahoochee) killed some kids? How fair is that to the current 18 year-olds?

I damn sure bought me a rifle when I turned 18.

It makes me sad to think younger ones may not have the freedom I did.

Something feels "not right" about that. Loss of freedom is not good.

Why do they not have the freedom to buy a beer when they are 18, I sure as hell could. How is that fair to the current 18 year olds?

 

[Marion Morrison]

I'm an NRA member and have been for DECADES .. I own more guns than most people have IQ points - I dont own an assault rifle and several 40 round clips because I DONT NEED ONE - and theres not an 18 year old kid on the planet that "NEEDS" one for anything other than slaughtering people .. anyone thats 18 and wants an assault rifle to carry around and look bad ass then go join the Marines and BE BAD ASS. They can hook you up with as many rags as you can handle.

The End

An AR 15 isn't an assault rifle.

Hell darling -- let them focus on ARs.. I like the nice wooden gloss on my SKS. They don't need to know how scary that pretty rifle can be...

PS --- babysitting it for a friend in Cali who didn't want it to be confiscated... He's got a problem now with getting it back..

Back when I bought my 1st gun, my buddy's all: "You should get in on this SKS stuff, $85-$115 for one, you can get magazines and all that.

Wish I woulda, but I was like.. haha! Them little bittie bullets, check out these bullets my gun shoots that are twice the size of yours, and brass.


In the end and all things considered, I did better than I thought I should have.

You didn't get a Norinco SKS when they were selling all over the place for less than $100?

Everybody and their little brown dog bought one back then.

7.62 X 39 was also selling for $90/1000. Cheap blasting.

Of course nowadays are the salad days of ARs. Over the holiday sales you could get them for $399.

If they continue to go down in price they will be so cheap that maybe even the inner city thugs will be able to afford the ARs to do all their shooting every night. When that happens the Liberals will shut up about banning ARs because they don't want to do anything to upset their base in these big city shitholes.

I was making fun of my friend, he was showing me those little 7.62 X 39 bullets, and I was showing him the bullets my gun shoots. Twice as big.

I should have listened and got a couple of Chinese SKSs with cosmoline still on them for $100 back then.
Hindsight is always 20/20.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Me and friend were kicking it around last night. It's not a bad idea, kids don't mature as fast these days, I guess.

The rules for wages/living are different as well.

It just makes me sad, that future generations won't have the freedoms I did.

 

[mikegriffith1]

It's a useless change in the law that will accomplish nothing. It's security theater and nothing more.

You're right there, Bro!
What we need is Federal laws that bring some sanity to the scene, as Australia has done.

Australian gun laws didn't work...their gun crime rate is going up...and their laws did not stop mass shootings...dumb luck has saved them...not their laws.....they have had about a dozen public shootings after they banned guns......the shooter had an illegal gun, in a public space...but either didn't shoot more than 2 people or when they shot more, they didn't die.....explain how that is their gun laws stopping mass public shootings?

How many mass shootings with fully automatic weapons can you name in the US in the last 50 or so years?

Have you guys learned NOTHING from the Paris terrorist attacks? They used weapons that were banned in France--not just in Paris, but in all of France. How did those gun laws work out?

Or, let's take Chicago, which has some of the toughest gun control laws in the country. Gee, those naughty gang members in Chicago, surprisingly enough, are not obeying the gun laws! Imagine that! Who would have thunk it?!

 

[NYcarbineer]

It's a useless change in the law that will accomplish nothing. It's security theater and nothing more.

You're right there, Bro!
What we need is Federal laws that bring some sanity to the scene, as Australia has done.

Australian gun laws didn't work...their gun crime rate is going up...and their laws did not stop mass shootings...dumb luck has saved them...not their laws.....they have had about a dozen public shootings after they banned guns......the shooter had an illegal gun, in a public space...but either didn't shoot more than 2 people or when they shot more, they didn't die.....explain how that is their gun laws stopping mass public shootings?

How many mass shootings with fully automatic weapons can you name in the US in the last 50 or so years?

Have you guys learned NOTHING from the Paris terrorist attacks? They used weapons that were banned in France--not just in Paris, but in all of France. How did those gun laws work out?

Or, let's take Chicago, which has some of the toughest gun control laws in the country. Gee, those naughty gang members in Chicago, surprisingly enough, are not obeying the gun laws! Imagine that! Who would have thunk it?!

So you're for letting ten year olds buy submachine guns at the Walmart.

I'm not surprised.

 

[mikegriffith1]

So you're for letting ten year olds buy submachine guns at the Walmart. I'm not surprised.

Do you liberals feel any sense of guilt or shame for leaving our teachers defenseless in school shooting after school shooting? Do you feel any remorse over the fact that every school shooter has been godless, secular, immoral, a heavy drinker and/or drug user, and exhibited aberrant behavior in social media posts? By the way, how many of these school shooters have been Republicans? (Answer: ZERO.)

 

[NYcarbineer]

So you're for letting ten year olds buy submachine guns at the Walmart. I'm not surprised.

Do you liberals feel any sense of guilt or shame for leaving our teachers defenseless in school shooting after school shooting? Do you feel any remorse over the fact that every school shooter has been godless, secular, immoral, a heavy drinker and/or drug user, and exhibited aberrant behavior in social media posts? By the way, how many of these school shooters have been Republicans? (Answer: ZERO.)

After you just posted that you want 10 year olds buying submachine guns at the Walmart,

I think my work on you here is finished, nutjob.