NRA opposes Fla move to raise age for rifles to 21, the same age for other firearms.

Nobody is "disarming law-abiding people", you can still be armed, just not with those kinds of weapons. Seems reasonable to me.

Yes, but you are unreasonable, so no one gives a shit about your view.
What's unreasonable about what I said?

Let's start with the lie that you are not seeking to disarm the public.

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Guess the Army should issue Nerf guns until soldiers are 21.


Imagine telling a 20 year Afghanistan War veteran returning home from a deployment that he is considered too immature by the government to own a firearm?
 
Nobody is "disarming law-abiding people", you can still be armed, just not with those kinds of weapons. Seems reasonable to me.

Yes, but you are unreasonable, so no one gives a shit about your view.
What's unreasonable about what I said?

Let's start with the lie that you are not seeking to disarm the public.

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Just watch the CNN Townhall....the Orwell 2 minutes of hate.....where the crowd chants to confiscate all semi automatic weapons......

I listened to the Ben Shapiro podcast today, and he brings up....6 shot revolvers are semi auto weapons...one pull of the trigger one shot, without having to reload...

They want all the guns...
 
Nobody is "disarming law-abiding people", you can still be armed, just not with those kinds of weapons. Seems reasonable to me.

Yes, but you are unreasonable, so no one gives a shit about your view.
What's unreasonable about what I said?

Let's start with the lie that you are not seeking to disarm the public.

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Not what I called for, please try to keep up.
 
Nobody is "disarming law-abiding people", you can still be armed, just not with those kinds of weapons. Seems reasonable to me.

Yes, but you are unreasonable, so no one gives a shit about your view.
What's unreasonable about what I said?

Let's start with the lie that you are not seeking to disarm the public.

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Just watch the CNN Townhall....the Orwell 2 minutes of hate.....where the crowd chants to confiscate all semi automatic weapons......

I listened to the Ben Shapiro podcast today, and he brings up....6 shot revolvers are semi auto weapons...one pull of the trigger one shot, without having to reload...

They want all the guns...
Is a one shot gun not enough for you?
 
Nobody is "disarming law-abiding people", you can still be armed, just not with those kinds of weapons. Seems reasonable to me.

Yes, but you are unreasonable, so no one gives a shit about your view.
What's unreasonable about what I said?

Let's start with the lie that you are not seeking to disarm the public.

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VIDEO: MSNBC'S Katy Tur Just Called for THE END of the 2nd Amendment


Just watch the CNN Townhall....the Orwell 2 minutes of hate.....where the crowd chants to confiscate all semi automatic weapons......

I listened to the Ben Shapiro podcast today, and he brings up....6 shot revolvers are semi auto weapons...one pull of the trigger one shot, without having to reload...

They want all the guns...
Is a one shot gun not enough for you?


No...it isn't......criminals rarely attack without weapons and they often attack in groups....as Dr. Lott pointed out on the Dan and Amy radio show here in Chicago...if you are facing more than one attacker and they are armed, you don't have time to reload after one shot to deal with them...that is why semi auto weapons are so important for innocent victims.....
 
It's not a knee jerk reaction. The left plans that and does it intentionally. That's why they've been high fiving each other all week


Bull shit it is not!

Knee jerk as it comes.

One 19 year old kid does something really despicable that the knee jerk reaction from all the Moon Bats is to deny Constitutional rights to 18, 19 and 20 years of which there are millions that are responsible gun owners.

If 18-20 year olds are that irresponsible when it comes to firearms that none of them should every be allowed to own a firearm then we sure as hell shouldn't be letting them into our military, should we?

There are million of very responsible 18-20 year olds in this country that own and shoot firearms and we should not take away their Constitutional rights just because of one demented asshole. What is the matter with you?

We allow that age group to vote, serve in the military, drive and just about everything else so why shouldn't they be afforded their Constitutional rights?

Liberals hate the idea of Liberty and will do everything possible to curtail freedom of the speech, freedom of religion and the right to keep and and bears because it conflicts with their filthy agenda to make America a socialist shithole.

Of course the agenda of filth from the Left is not to just curtail Constitutional rights for the 18-20 year old but for everybody.

This mindless anti gun frenzy over the action of a nut case is a great example of the stupidity of the Left and why we should fight them.

By moonbats do you mean Trump and Scott? Seems like they are the two in the last couple of days calling for this.


I think we learned from Bush that Liberals come in all shapes and sizes, didn't we?

The curtailment of the right to keep and bear arms is despicable no matter who does it, isn't it?

No one is calling for you to surrender your guns, calm down. You can still be a member of the NRA, still carry and keep your guns unless you are under 21 and deemed mentally ill or are called out over a domestic dispute if any of these items get the light of day.


You are confused.

Earlier this week the Florida House voted on a bill to ban all semi automatic guns. Fortunately it failed by a good margin because of a Republican super majority but all the filthy ass Democrats voted for it.

Last weekend both the New York Times and the LA Times (mouth pieces for the filthy Democrat Party) advocated abolishing the Second Amendment.

The right to keep and bear arms is a direct threat to the Left's agenda to turn this country into a socialist shithole just like the right of free speech and freedom of religion.


If they regain control of the entire government the first thing they will do is end the Lawful Commerce in Arms act...so they can sue gun makers and gun stores out of business...a gun ban without taking a vote to ban guns.......
 
/----/ Finally a gun law homicidal maniacs will obey.
criminals disaobey the law.jpg
 
Bull shit it is not!

Knee jerk as it comes.

One 19 year old kid does something really despicable that the knee jerk reaction from all the Moon Bats is to deny Constitutional rights to 18, 19 and 20 years of which there are millions that are responsible gun owners.

If 18-20 year olds are that irresponsible when it comes to firearms that none of them should every be allowed to own a firearm then we sure as hell shouldn't be letting them into our military, should we?

There are million of very responsible 18-20 year olds in this country that own and shoot firearms and we should not take away their Constitutional rights just because of one demented asshole. What is the matter with you?

We allow that age group to vote, serve in the military, drive and just about everything else so why shouldn't they be afforded their Constitutional rights?

Liberals hate the idea of Liberty and will do everything possible to curtail freedom of the speech, freedom of religion and the right to keep and and bears because it conflicts with their filthy agenda to make America a socialist shithole.

Of course the agenda of filth from the Left is not to just curtail Constitutional rights for the 18-20 year old but for everybody.

This mindless anti gun frenzy over the action of a nut case is a great example of the stupidity of the Left and why we should fight them.

By moonbats do you mean Trump and Scott? Seems like they are the two in the last couple of days calling for this.


I think we learned from Bush that Liberals come in all shapes and sizes, didn't we?

The curtailment of the right to keep and bear arms is despicable no matter who does it, isn't it?

No one is calling for you to surrender your guns, calm down. You can still be a member of the NRA, still carry and keep your guns unless you are under 21 and deemed mentally ill or are called out over a domestic dispute if any of these items get the light of day.


You are confused.

Earlier this week the Florida House voted on a bill to ban all semi automatic guns. Fortunately it failed by a good margin because of a Republican super majority but all the filthy ass Democrats voted for it.

Last weekend both the New York Times and the LA Times (mouth pieces for the filthy Democrat Party) advocated abolishing the Second Amendment.

The right to keep and bear arms is a direct threat to the Left's agenda to turn this country into a socialist shithole just like the right of free speech and freedom of religion.


If they regain control of the entire government the first thing they will do is end the Lawful Commerce in Arms act...so they can sue gun makers and gun stores out of business...a gun ban without taking a vote to ban guns.......


The assholes had their chance to infringe upon the right to keep and bear arms big time in the two years that they controlled everything and had 59 senators. Thy could have passed anything in the House and got one Republican in the Senate and that piece of shit Obama would have signed it.

Instead of fucking up our Liberty to keep and bear arms they decided to fuck up health care and by 2010 the American people had enough of those jackasses.

You can bet if those butt pirates ever again control that much of the government we can kiss the Bill of Rights goodbye. That will be the time for a million armed man march in DC.
 
How many mass shootings with fully automatic weapons can you name in the US in the last 50 or so years?

Have you guys learned NOTHING from the Paris terrorist attacks? They used weapons that were banned in France--not just in Paris, but in all of France. How did those gun laws work out?

Or, let's take Chicago, which has some of the toughest gun control laws in the country. Gee, those naughty gang members in Chicago, surprisingly enough, are not obeying the gun laws! Imagine that! Who would have thunk it?!

So you're for letting ten year olds buy submachine guns at the Walmart.

I'm not surprised.

Sweeping Generalisation Fallacy
Explanation
A sweeping generalisation applies a general statement too broadly. If one takes a general rule, and applies it to a case to which, due to the specific features of the case, the rule does not apply, then one commits the sweeping generalisation fallacy.
 
Me and friend were kicking it around last night. It's not a bad idea, kids don't mature as fast these days, I guess.

The rules for wages/living are different as well.

It just makes me sad, that future generations won't have the freedoms I did.

Who is to blame for that? Take a look at these high schools kids now. Who are their parents? Who were their parents' parents? Older people love to cut down Millennials, but who raised us to be this way?
 
How many mass shootings with fully automatic weapons can you name in the US in the last 50 or so years?

Have you guys learned NOTHING from the Paris terrorist attacks? They used weapons that were banned in France--not just in Paris, but in all of France. How did those gun laws work out?

Or, let's take Chicago, which has some of the toughest gun control laws in the country. Gee, those naughty gang members in Chicago, surprisingly enough, are not obeying the gun laws! Imagine that! Who would have thunk it?!

So you're for letting ten year olds buy submachine guns at the Walmart.

I'm not surprised.

Sweeping Generalisation Fallacy
Explanation
A sweeping generalisation applies a general statement too broadly. If one takes a general rule, and applies it to a case to which, due to the specific features of the case, the rule does not apply, then one commits the sweeping generalisation fallacy.

His post makes it clear he doesn't support banning guns and he doesn't support an age limit on purchases nor does he support background checks.

If he disputes my conclusions all he has to do is say so and clarify his opinions precisely.
 
Me and friend were kicking it around last night. It's not a bad idea, kids don't mature as fast these days, I guess.

The rules for wages/living are different as well.

It just makes me sad, that future generations won't have the freedoms I did.

Who is to blame for that? Take a look at these high schools kids now. Who are their parents? Who were their parents' parents? Older people love to cut down Millennials, but who raised us to be this way?

You're grownups now. Time to own your decisions.
 
It's a useless change in the law that will accomplish nothing. It's security theater and nothing more.

NOTHING WILL WORK! So why bother. Do I have it right?

Oh, there are plenty of things that will work, in my opinion, but you probably wouldn't agree with a lot of it. You people are the reason this is happening.

You people? LOL. You mean the people that want sensible gun control laws are the ones to blame for kids being murdered at school. The mental gymnastics you must do to say that with a straight face are truly olympic level worthy.
 
I did not read this thread...but the logic fails me when you can be drafted to fight in war at 18, but you couldn't legally own the gun you would use until you are 21.

Lost me there.

LAW ENFORCEMENT SHOULD DO ITS JOB.
 
If Cruz can't buy an AR15 type weapon, he won't be OUTGUNNING the guards and teachers who are armed at the school. Please say that you understand that concept at least.

Explain in detail how having an AR-15 outguns them. You keep saying that over and over, but you can't seem to explain why. This gets back to your lack of experience with firearms.

You still haven't defined what an assault weapon is either.
Now I'm not sure if you're being obtuse to pull my chain or what, but it's been fun. :biggrin:

What I'm asking you isn't difficult. Why are you having problems answering the question?

You gonna run away and crawl back into your hole now because someone challenged your nonsense?
No, you're simply boring me with the same bullshit NRA talking points. I've heard it all before, you guys see a bunch of dead children and try to do the gun manufacturers bidding. Cold, very cold.

You see a bunch of dead children who would not be dead if the law's we have already worked and use that to shill for more laws. And you call anyone else, "Cold, very cold?"
 
It's a useless change in the law that will accomplish nothing. It's security theater and nothing more.
You're right there, Bro!
What we need is Federal laws that bring some sanity to the scene, as Australia has done.
As I have learned the last few days, ALL semi autos are as fast, deadly and powerful as an AR-15. So I am told by the pro gun folks.
So yeah, what logical choice do we have?

OldLady: We need to have laws to make guns illegal. You know, like we made drugs illegal and now we don't have any drugs. It's the only "logical choice."

Tell me again how we shouldn't have a southern border so we can keep guns from coming in like we so effectively keep people and drugs from coming in now. A million illegal immigrant's couldn't possibly sneak guns in, right "logical" OldLady?
 

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