Not your president you say?

[SixFoot]

 

[Harry Dresden]

Wingers are silly, they say stuff like that. Very similar.

If that was designated to me, I hope you understand that

If Trump won the popular vote then I would hate myself but I would accepted he is the president. But he lost the popular vote and only won because of a antiquated electoral voting system. Last time that happened we had one of the worst presidents in US history. Our country could have flourished under Gore but instead we got 9/11, recession, housing crisis and the world laughed and hated us.

Trump will be Bush 2.0

Say it with me.

President Trump.

I will gladly say if he wins the popular vote. Until then TRUMP IS NOT MY PRESIDENT!

Spreading racist hate, are we?

United we stand, divided we fall. Everyone should support Trump now and encourage him to do the best he can. No riots after Obama's election.

Because Obama wasn't divisive. He didn't slander whole groups of people. He didn't mock disabled people.

Because Obama wasn't divisive
thats a matter of opinion.....the country moved farther apart under him then when even bush was pres.....

 

[jasonnfree]

I wasn't happy when Obama won both of his terms, but I accepted him as my president. Whether I voted for him or not, he represented America to the world, and therefore me, for good or worse. I wanted him to perform to the best of his ability and succeed.

I was happy that a black man had made it to the ultimate leadership position in our country. Unfortunately he became someone I could no longer look at when he spoke because I knew a great deal many of the things he said were lies, or he simply said things I just didn't want to hear. But he was still my president. I didn't call for his assassination, I didn't pull Obama voters out of their cars and beat them, I didn't incite a riot, I didn't threaten to move out of the country. I didn't hash ridiculous conspiracy theories about him. I did what most adults do. I moved on. I dealt with it. Sometimes I just wished some of my more staunch conservative friends would have done the same over the years. But predictably, they began uttering the same thing some of you liberals are uttering now, "he's not my president."

Fine. If you can't accept the President of the United States as your president, you are refusing to accept the authority that comes with that office. You are rejecting the process by which he was elected, a democratic constitutional process which was painstakingly put together by the founding members of our nation. This office of the president is a position that millions of our service members died to protect over the past 230+ years. You are telling the people who elected him that you don't accept their choice, or that they don't deserve to make it. Instead you call them racist, bigoted, uneducated misogynists. All because you didn't get your way.

Those people elected him, and through them the Electoral College elected him. That's how it works. I don't really care who "won the popular vote." And as you ironically demand equality for whatever other reason, for gays, blacks, illegals, what have you, you are willing to deny your peers an electoral process which was designed to give everyone an equal voice. The whole idea of America is to unite behind our leader when he is just and fair, and to rebuke him in unison when his actions are corrupt and unjust. When you refuse to accept him as your president, you should lose the right to do both. When you sign petitions pressuring the Electoral College to reverse their votes to elect the person you voted for--who lost-- you are essentially living in a state of denial. You're expressing your selfish desires to have the electorate robbed of the person they elected in favor of forcing your choice down their throats.

In fact, you are telling the world how much of a bigoted child you are by throwing temper tantrums and/or running for your safe spaces or nearest populated areas to participate in a riot and smash things (or people). You are showing everyone just how intolerant and unfit for real life you really are. Here's a piece of advice: grow up or get the hell out of America. Your refusal to adapt to a changing reality not only causes hardship for you, but for others around you. Democracy doesn't always take the form you want it to. If us conservatives could deal with 8 years of Obama's lackluster leadership, you can deal with Trump and whatever form his leadership takes.

On January 20, 2009, Obama was my president, whether I liked it or not. On January 20, 2017, Trump will be your president, whether you like it or not.

Peace.

Just one thing, that is worth saying. When Obama was elected, the reaction from the right was little different then that from the left now. Yes, there weren't mass protests (most have actually been peaceful) - but that was about it. He was not accepted as the president. The birther/Kenyan/Muslim crap and questions about his legitimacy continued and grew. His legitimacy was questioned for 8 years - including by the man that has won this election.

I agree with you, we must move on - loathsome as it is. But please don't pretend the right was any better. Oh, they might not have protested in public demonstrations - but the death threats were there, the calls for assassination.

And, in my mind, the lowest was actually applauding bloody, murderous thugs like Putin, and holding him up as better than our president. Or applauding the crazy foul mouthed Phillipine president when he verbally and publically denigrated OUR PRESIDENT. How can people support that? No matter how much I disliked GW (and I did) - I would never hold up Putin as a better man, and I sure as hell wouldn't praise Duterte.

So...ya, the way the left is behaving isn't so great. But please remember - 8 years ago, and even recently - the behavior has been shameful.

Just a few people brought up the kenya thing. There was no mass hysteria, rioting in streets because obama became president.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Trump should get the same respect that was afforded to Obama constant opposition constant insults and constant exposure of his naked trophy wife....every demonstration should feature Naked Melania posters

pull up your underoos tyrone and deal with the guy like the rest of us have too....

 

[Coyote]

I wasn't happy when Obama won both of his terms, but I accepted him as my president. Whether I voted for him or not, he represented America to the world, and therefore me, for good or worse. I wanted him to perform to the best of his ability and succeed.

I was happy that a black man had made it to the ultimate leadership position in our country. Unfortunately he became someone I could no longer look at when he spoke because I knew a great deal many of the things he said were lies, or he simply said things I just didn't want to hear. But he was still my president. I didn't call for his assassination, I didn't pull Obama voters out of their cars and beat them, I didn't incite a riot, I didn't threaten to move out of the country. I didn't hash ridiculous conspiracy theories about him. I did what most adults do. I moved on. I dealt with it. Sometimes I just wished some of my more staunch conservative friends would have done the same over the years. But predictably, they began uttering the same thing some of you liberals are uttering now, "he's not my president."

Fine. If you can't accept the President of the United States as your president, you are refusing to accept the authority that comes with that office. You are rejecting the process by which he was elected, a democratic constitutional process which was painstakingly put together by the founding members of our nation. This office of the president is a position that millions of our service members died to protect over the past 230+ years. You are telling the people who elected him that you don't accept their choice, or that they don't deserve to make it. Instead you call them racist, bigoted, uneducated misogynists. All because you didn't get your way.

Those people elected him, and through them the Electoral College elected him. That's how it works. I don't really care who "won the popular vote." And as you ironically demand equality for whatever other reason, for gays, blacks, illegals, what have you, you are willing to deny your peers an electoral process which was designed to give everyone an equal voice. The whole idea of America is to unite behind our leader when he is just and fair, and to rebuke him in unison when his actions are corrupt and unjust. When you refuse to accept him as your president, you should lose the right to do both. When you sign petitions pressuring the Electoral College to reverse their votes to elect the person you voted for--who lost-- you are essentially living in a state of denial. You're expressing your selfish desires to have the electorate robbed of the person they elected in favor of forcing your choice down their throats.

In fact, you are telling the world how much of a bigoted child you are by throwing temper tantrums and/or running for your safe spaces or nearest populated areas to participate in a riot and smash things (or people). You are showing everyone just how intolerant and unfit for real life you really are. Here's a piece of advice: grow up or get the hell out of America. Your refusal to adapt to a changing reality not only causes hardship for you, but for others around you. Democracy doesn't always take the form you want it to. If us conservatives could deal with 8 years of Obama's lackluster leadership, you can deal with Trump and whatever form his leadership takes.

On January 20, 2009, Obama was my president, whether I liked it or not. On January 20, 2017, Trump will be your president, whether you like it or not.

Peace.

Just one thing, that is worth saying. When Obama was elected, the reaction from the right was little different then that from the left now. Yes, there weren't mass protests (most have actually been peaceful) - but that was about it. He was not accepted as the president. The birther/Kenyan/Muslim crap and questions about his legitimacy continued and grew. His legitimacy was questioned for 8 years - including by the man that has won this election.

I agree with you, we must move on - loathsome as it is. But please don't pretend the right was any better. Oh, they might not have protested in public demonstrations - but the death threats were there, the calls for assassination.

And, in my mind, the lowest was actually applauding bloody, murderous thugs like Putin, and holding him up as better than our president. Or applauding the crazy foul mouthed Phillipine president when he verbally and publically denigrated OUR PRESIDENT. How can people support that? No matter how much I disliked GW (and I did) - I would never hold up Putin as a better man, and I sure as hell wouldn't praise Duterte.

So...ya, the way the left is behaving isn't so great. But please remember - 8 years ago, and even recently - the behavior has been shameful.

Just a few people brought up the kenya thing. There was no mass hysteria, rioting in streets because obama became president.

If you consider 72% of registered Republican Voters "a few"...I suppose so.

There was no "mass rioting"...let's be accurate here. It wasn't Ferguson. It wasn't Rodney King. It was mostly peaceful demonstrations. But for those that weren't - the people involved should charged, jailed and forced rebuild, fix, pay for their damages.

 

[TemplarKormac]

He was not accepted as the president. The birther/Kenyan/Muslim crap and questions about his legitimacy continued and grew. His legitimacy was questioned for 8 years - including by the man that has won this election.

I never approved of that. Especially the posts questioning his legitimacy to be president. I'm on record fighting other conservatives on this board over that.

 

[rcfieldz]

I wasn't happy when Obama won both of his terms, but I accepted him as my president. Whether I voted for him or not, he represented America to the world, and therefore me, for good or worse. I wanted him to perform to the best of his ability and succeed.

I was happy that a black man had made it to the ultimate leadership position in our country. Unfortunately he became someone I could no longer look at when he spoke because I knew a great deal many of the things he said were lies, or he simply said things I just didn't want to hear. But he was still my president. I didn't call for his assassination, I didn't pull Obama voters out of their cars and beat them, I didn't incite a riot, I didn't threaten to move out of the country. I didn't hash ridiculous conspiracy theories about him. I did what most adults do. I moved on. I dealt with it. Sometimes I just wished some of my more staunch conservative friends would have done the same over the years. But predictably, they began uttering the same thing some of you liberals are uttering now, "he's not my president."

Fine. If you can't accept the President of the United States as your president, you are refusing to accept the authority that comes with that office. You are rejecting the process by which he was elected, a democratic constitutional process which was painstakingly put together by the founding members of our nation. This office of the president is a position that millions of our service members died to protect over the past 230+ years. You are telling the people who elected him that you don't accept their choice, or that they don't deserve to make it. Instead you call them racist, bigoted, uneducated misogynists. All because you didn't get your way.

Those people elected him, and through them the Electoral College elected him. That's how it works. I don't really care who "won the popular vote." And as you ironically demand equality for whatever other reason, for gays, blacks, illegals, what have you, you are willing to deny your peers an electoral process which was designed to give everyone an equal voice. The whole idea of America is to unite behind our leader when he is just and fair, and to rebuke him in unison when his actions are corrupt and unjust. When you refuse to accept him as your president, you should lose the right to do both. When you sign petitions pressuring the Electoral College to reverse their votes to elect the person you voted for--who lost-- you are essentially living in a state of denial. You're expressing your selfish desires to have the electorate robbed of the person they elected in favor of forcing your choice down their throats.

In fact, you are telling the world how much of a bigoted child you are by throwing temper tantrums and/or running for your safe spaces or nearest populated areas to participate in a riot and smash things (or people). You are showing everyone just how intolerant and unfit for real life you really are. Here's a piece of advice: grow up or get the hell out of America. Your refusal to adapt to a changing reality not only causes hardship for you, but for others around you. Democracy doesn't always take the form you want it to. If us conservatives could deal with 8 years of Obama's lackluster leadership, you can deal with Trump and whatever form his leadership takes.

On January 20, 2009, Obama was my president, whether I liked it or not. On January 20, 2017, Trump will be your president, whether you like it or not.

Peace.

Just one thing, that is worth saying. When Obama was elected, the reaction from the right was little different then that from the left now. Yes, there weren't mass protests (most have actually been peaceful) - but that was about it. He was not accepted as the president. The birther/Kenyan/Muslim crap and questions about his legitimacy continued and grew. His legitimacy was questioned for 8 years - including by the man that has won this election.

I agree with you, we must move on - loathsome as it is. But please don't pretend the right was any better. Oh, they might not have protested in public demonstrations - but the death threats were there, the calls for assassination.

And, in my mind, the lowest was actually applauding bloody, murderous thugs like Putin, and holding him up as better than our president. Or applauding the crazy foul mouthed Phillipine president when he verbally and publically denigrated OUR PRESIDENT. How can people support that? No matter how much I disliked GW (and I did) - I would never hold up Putin as a better man, and I sure as hell wouldn't praise Duterte.

So...ya, the way the left is behaving isn't so great. But please remember - 8 years ago, and even recently - the behavior has been shameful.

Marching and protesting in front of Obama's home 8 years ago would have had a different reaction...

 

[Coyote]

He was not accepted as the president. The birther/Kenyan/Muslim crap and questions about his legitimacy continued and grew. His legitimacy was questioned for 8 years - including by the man that has won this election.

I never approved of that. Especially the posts questioning his legitimacy to be president. I'm on record fighting other conservatives on this board over that.

I can never applaud some foul mouthed little p.o.s. little dictator insulting our president. That takes the cake. Even if it were Trump.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I can never applaud some foul mouthed little p.o.s. little dictator insulting our president. That takes the cake. Even if it were Trump.

Our president deserves respect, reluctant or otherwise.

EDIT: Until he does something worthy of our revoking that respect. The office should always be respected, no matter who occupies it.

 

[Harry Dresden]

I can never applaud some foul mouthed little p.o.s. little dictator insulting our president. That takes the cake. Even if it were Trump.

Our president deserves respect, reluctant or otherwise.

the office maybe,but the person who is the President has to earn it...

 

[TemplarKormac]

the office maybe,but the person who is the President has to earn it...

Indeed.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Just a few people brought up the kenya thing. There was no mass hysteria, rioting in streets because obama became president.

It was bad enough questioning his citizenship. That little farce was started by people who thought it would get him kicked out of office. The same crap these liberal crybabies are pulling now against Trump.

Both sides are guilty of similar behavior.

 

[Coyote]

I can never applaud some foul mouthed little p.o.s. little dictator insulting our president. That takes the cake. Even if it were Trump.

Our president deserves respect, reluctant or otherwise.

the office maybe,but the person who is the President has to earn it...

Yes, the office. And yes, they have to earn it. But in the end - it's still OUR president. To put it bluntly - a president may be a fuckwad - but he's OUR fuckwad.

And the office deserves our respect and by extension whomever is in it. We may dislike him, hate his policies, his character and in the American way argue, dissent, etc - but he's still our president.

Not sure why exactly - but this one thing, for me, has just given me a whole new level of disgust. I wouldn't have dreamed of supporting a foreign dictator's attack on our president. And believe you me - I did not like Bush. And don't like Trump. I just don't get it.

 

[Coyote]

Just a few people brought up the kenya thing. There was no mass hysteria, rioting in streets because obama became president.

It was bad enough questioning his citizenship. That little farce was started by people who thought it would get him kicked out of office. The same crap these liberal crybabies are pulling now against Trump.

Both sides are guilty of similar behavior.

Each side seems to be in a race to the bottom here.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Just a few people brought up the kenya thing. There was no mass hysteria, rioting in streets because obama became president.

It was bad enough questioning his citizenship. That little farce was started by people who thought it would get him kicked out of office. The same crap these liberal crybabies are pulling now against Trump.

Both sides are guilty of similar behavior.

Each side seems to be in a race to the bottom here.

The "bottom" was passed a long time ago.