Non-College Grad Scott Walker

[thanatos144]

If only college graduates are educated then I guess only people who have been in the military are brave and patriotic. It's the same thought process. One I happen to disagree with.

What about military who used the GI bill and got a degree?

What about it?

He most likely thinks they don't deserve it....

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[rdean]

What about military who used the GI bill and got a degree?

What about it?

He most likely thinks they don't deserve it....

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Why? That's how I got my degree. In fact, I suspect it's typical for "liberals". Republicans think education is for snobs.

 

[Samson]

You mean Scott made the wrong choices in life by not furthering his education??

College isn't for everyone...

You mean like George Washington or Abe Linclon?

I understand Grant did horribly at Westpoint.

 

[Samson]

Just out of curiosity...what credence (if any) do you give to a college degree holder? All things being equal, if your daughter brought home a young man as a suitor to meet you, would having a college degree be better or worse in terms of how you thought about him?

Look up James Byrnes, Andrew Carnegie, Michael Dell, George Eastman, and the 8 US President's that never went to college.
I could keep going, but think you get the message.

For President?

Different times and different skill sets.

For my daughter...no problem.

Yes.

"Different times" doesn't mean "Easier times" nor less complicated.

Frankly, assuming someone cannot think enough to be President because they have not attended a University and received a degree disqualifies a huge number of minorities.

Why do you hate minorities?

 

[Meister]

You mean Scott made the wrong choices in life by not furthering his education??

College isn't for everyone...

You mean like George Washington or Abe Linclon?

I understand Grant did horribly at Westpoint.

Harry Truman didn't have a college degree

 

[Pop23]

You mean Scott made the wrong choices in life by not furthering his education??

College isn't for everyone...

And we should applaud those that were able to be successful without a degree.

 

[whitehall]

Does the left research the educational background of every single republican candidate? Pretty ironic when the president's birth certificate and college record is locked in a freaking vault.

 

[candycorn]

You mean Scott made the wrong choices in life by not furthering his education??

College isn't for everyone...

You mean like George Washington or Abe Linclon?

I understand Grant did horribly at Westpoint.

Different world in the late 1700's and different skill-set needed for the battlefield. One isn't exclusive to the other...

Would the addition of a college degree raise or lower Walker's stock in your eyes?

 

[candycorn]

You mean Scott made the wrong choices in life by not furthering his education??

College isn't for everyone...

And we should applaud those that were able to be successful without a degree.

Yes we should.

 

[candycorn]

Does the left research the educational background of every single republican candidate?

I was given the task of publicizing Walker's lack of a college degree by the upper reaches of the left wing power structure...LOL

 

[Steven_R]

Governor is an administrative job at its core.

Now, let's pretend we have an election tomorrow. Candidate A never went to college, but managed to get a job and move up the ranks of a corporate becoming a CEO. Candidate B has degrees in government, MBA, JD, and a few others, but never left a university setting.

All other things being equal, who is better qualified for the job, the guy who knows the theory and has the degrees to prove he knows the theory or the guy who never cracked open a textbook but has done the work of administering a large organization with lots of moving parts?

 

[candycorn]

Governor is an administrative job at its core.

Now, let's pretend we have an election tomorrow. Candidate A never went to college, but managed to get a job and move up the ranks of a corporate becoming a CEO. Candidate B has degrees in government, MBA, JD, and a few others, but never left a university setting.

All other things being equal, who is better qualified for the job, the guy who knows the theory and has the degrees to prove he knows the theory or the guy who never cracked open a textbook but has done the work of administering a large organization with lots of moving parts?

Personally, neither of those skill sets you listed are what I look for in a candidate. Values and passions are more important to me.

But if I had to pick one, I'd pick Candidate A. What you should always look for is a mind at work. Candidate B's skill set is great but when the environment changes, what worked last week may not work best this week.

I also don't buy the notion that elected office is an administration job; the best ones inspire their populations.

 

[HenryBHough]

So here you are lying bleeding on the sidewalk.

Two people approach you. Both offer to help.

One says: "I'm a college graduate"!

The other says: "I went to trade school."

Naturally you choose the grad. Then you die.

Too bad you chose the philosopher instead of the non-grad Emergency Medical Technician.

Moral: You need more than a label to choose wisely.

 

[Samson]

College isn't for everyone...

You mean like George Washington or Abe Linclon?

I understand Grant did horribly at Westpoint.

Different world in the late 1700's and different skill-set needed for the battlefield. One isn't exclusive to the other...

Would the addition of a college degree raise or lower Walker's stock in your eyes?

Actually, "Different" doesn't mean "Better."

Also, the "lowering of stock" is relative to whatever choices there may be.

But, to answer your question, it would really depend on the degree.

BA Underwater 12th century French Poetry, not so much.

 

[BreezeWood]

Non-College Grad Scott Walker

Does that hurt his chances of getting your vote either in the primary or general election?

is that to imply there was a curriculum for winning the governorship in the State of Wisconsin ?

* only if the course were taught in Wisconsin ....


or the follow-up by Walker for his reasoning not to finish his degree, if so offered might be a factor.

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[Againsheila]

Does that hurt his chances of getting your vote either in the primary or general election?

My maternal grandfather was the most educated man I ever met. He never went to college, he was self educated. All a college degree means is that you can follow directions. It doesn't necessarily make you more educated than someone else, and it certain doesn't make you smarter.

 

[Zander]

Governor is an administrative job at its core.

Now, let's pretend we have an election tomorrow. Candidate A never went to college, but managed to get a job and move up the ranks of a corporate becoming a CEO. Candidate B has degrees in government, MBA, JD, and a few others, but never left a university setting.

All other things being equal, who is better qualified for the job, the guy who knows the theory and has the degrees to prove he knows the theory or the guy who never cracked open a textbook but has done the work of administering a large organization with lots of moving parts?

Personally, neither of those skill sets you listed are what I look for in a candidate. Values and passions are more important to me.

But if I had to pick one, I'd pick Candidate A. What you should always look for is a mind at work. Candidate B's skill set is great but when the environment changes, what worked last week may not work best this week.

I also don't buy the notion that elected office is an administration job; the best ones inspire their populations.

Your answer makes no sense to me. I'd take the guy with the track record and actual accomplishments over a "great mind" and "passion and values" any day.

Why do you value feelings and intentions (passion and values) over practical experience and results?

 

[candycorn]

Does that hurt his chances of getting your vote either in the primary or general election?

My maternal grandfather was the most educated man I ever met. He never went to college, he was self educated. All a college degree means is that you can follow directions. It doesn't necessarily make you more educated than someone else, and it certain doesn't make you smarter.

I disagree. Having a college degree does mean you've attained some sort level of intelligence. But you don't have to have a college degree to be educated. On that part, you're correct.

 

[Pop23]

College isn't for everyone...

You mean like George Washington or Abe Linclon?

I understand Grant did horribly at Westpoint.

Different world in the late 1700's and different skill-set needed for the battlefield. One isn't exclusive to the other...

Would the addition of a college degree raise or lower Walker's stock in your eyes?

Neither, would not matter

Would not vote for a bad candidate no matter what their educational level was.

 

[candycorn]

Governor is an administrative job at its core.

Now, let's pretend we have an election tomorrow. Candidate A never went to college, but managed to get a job and move up the ranks of a corporate becoming a CEO. Candidate B has degrees in government, MBA, JD, and a few others, but never left a university setting.

All other things being equal, who is better qualified for the job, the guy who knows the theory and has the degrees to prove he knows the theory or the guy who never cracked open a textbook but has done the work of administering a large organization with lots of moving parts?

Personally, neither of those skill sets you listed are what I look for in a candidate. Values and passions are more important to me.

But if I had to pick one, I'd pick Candidate A. What you should always look for is a mind at work. Candidate B's skill set is great but when the environment changes, what worked last week may not work best this week.

I also don't buy the notion that elected office is an administration job; the best ones inspire their populations.

Your answer makes no sense to me. I'd take the guy with the track record and actual accomplishments over a "great mind" and "passion and values" any day.

Why do you value feelings and intentions (passion and values) over practical experience and results?

We have thousands of successful businesses in our nation. How would one CEO's success out weigh another CEO's success? Seldom can one draw a straight line from a CEO's decision to a business's success. Sometimes the competition fades, sometimes governmental regulation creates barriers to entry, sometimes, you're just in the right place at the right time and sometimes you can draw a straight line from what is decided in the executive suite to a business doing markedly better.

For example, one of the companies in which I am invested is Female Health Company (FHCO). They make female condoms. Female condoms is something that hasn't taken off and it may never take off. However, in some public health departments, the State is mandating that female condoms are to be kept on hand. So I see the sales increasing. Also, there may be some substitution going on for oral contraceptives which will increase sales further beyond the mandate. Should the CEO of FHCO get credit for that? I don't think so.

Secondly, running a business and running a country are two different skill-sets. In my view, the government shouldn't be in the business of turning a profit. The accomplishments spoken of in the post I responded to cite administrative qualities. Governor Romney's success in private equity where they buy a struggling business, chop it up and sell off it's pieces doesn't translate well into what to do with the FAA or reforming the tax code. I'm happy there were some successes but there were some outcomes that those whose companies were purchased that were not so favorable to the working stiffs. And keep in mind, the CEO never had an opposition party within their ranks they had to negotiate around with any sort of real clout.

Thirdly, the Presidency is much broader than the duties of CEO to me. I want to know what the energy policies are, what type of judges they'll appoint to the high court, where they stand on the issues of the day.

Fiscally, both parties are out to lunch. Anyone who is honest in their assessment cannot
say otherwise with a straight face. So passion and intent are big matters to me.