Rigby5
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Do you know that Marx said governments exist to mediate the class struggle in favor of the "ruling" or dominant class? If not you need to read a bit more.
Do you know that Marx said "lower communism" ("socialist society") is class society and it occurs or operates between capitalist society and "higher communism" ("communist" society)? If not you need to read a bit more.
Do you know that Marx said that "higher communism" will be classless and therefore stateless society? If not you need to read a bit more.
Do you know that Marx said that the dictatorship of the proletariat is only needed while there's a need to dictate over the capitalist class to stop them from acting out their capitalist dreams? If not you need to read a bit more.
Do you know that "the proletariat" is a term for the working class wage earners? Even bourgeois capitalist dictionaries know it. One says the proletariat is "the class of industrial wage earners who, possessing neither capital nor production means, must earn their living by selling their labor."
Are you familiar with the Marxian term "withering away" regarding what happens to CLASSES and the state under socialism? If not you need to read a bit more.
Except you did not understand a single point.
Sure governments exist to mediate the class struggle in favor of the "ruling", but if you read Marx, his desire was to eliminate government because he thought is was inherently corrupt. That is what he was saying. Government is inherently corrupt, in favor of a ruling class, so then should be destroyed. He has some idealistic faith that people would then be so nice to each other, government would not be needed.
Sure "lower communism" ("socialist society") is class society, which is why he did not like socialism, and instead believed in communism, which eliminates the corruption of capitalism and is classless.
Sure "higher communism" will be classless and therefore stateless society. That is the whole point of Marxism, that the state and classes are artificial and evil. He was an extreme idealist, and believed in a benevolent Anarchism.
But it is wrong to believe Marx believed the dictatorship of the proletariat is only needed while there's a need to dictate over the capitalist class to stop them from acting out their capitalist dreams.
He always wanted to destroy the evil and corrupt capitalists and the dictatorship of the proletariat means a free democracy. A dictatorship of the proletariat means majority rule. It is totally benevolent. It is the opposite of a dictatorship by a single dictator or minority class.
Sure "the proletariat" is a term for the working class wage earners, but in Marx's ideal state, that is all that would exist. Marx wanted a classless state, where everyone would be a working class, wage earner, and collectively the proletariat.
Of course Marx thought the "withering away" of CLASSES and the state would happen naturally under communism.
That was his idealism again, where he thought all crime was due to evil class inequalities.
He thought that then if you eliminate all classes but the proletariat, all crime would disappear and government would become unnecessary any more.