No food stamps for any family of a striking worker

[JBeukema]

I'm not real up on this so someone correct me if I'm wrong. Say if you're in a union and the union decides to go on strike. Don't you HAVE to stop working even if you don't want to?

Whether you have an obligation or not kinda depends on the union, but usually you pretty much have no choice.

You could break with the union and become a scab, but that's also a dangerous proposition

Striking auto workers beat a worker as he tries to cross the picket line during a 1941 strike at the Ford Rouge Plant, in Dearborn, Michigan.

In the eyes of the Union, you have then aligned yourself with the bosses agianst your fellow workers


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That’s where the scab comes in. Crossing the picket line is not a neutral act. The nature of work means that a worker cannot simply say they are not involved in the dispute and remain neutral. Since the point of withdrawing labour is to cease production and force the bosses to negotiate or capitulate, going back to work is to objectively favour those in charge.
It gives them a way to carry on work (even at a reduced rate) without the strikers and so lessens the impact of the action. It is, in short, a betrayal of your fellow workers and of the spirit of solidarity that brought us to the (limited) rights and freedoms we enjoy today from conditions comparable to Chinese sweatshops.
It is for the reasons above that there is a great deal of hostility towards individuals and organisations who break strikes amongst organised workers. But also that use of them is favoured by the bosses.

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[dilloduck]

no---a striking worker is taking the risk that he or she is indispensable. Sorta silly with the job market the way it is.

Gee maybe you are catching on to why they did this to our economy?

And why they keep going after the worker. They want us to work for nothing, with no rights.

You have the same right to apply for a good paying job as anyone else does.

 

[JBeukema]

Let's go back to the fifties.... everyone join a union

 

[Anachronism]

I'm not real up on this so someone correct me if I'm wrong. Say if you're in a union and the union decides to go on strike. Don't you HAVE to stop working even if you don't want to?

The workers in the Union that is on strike cannot go to work. That doesn't necessarily mean that everyone working at a particular location in a Union member OR a member of the particular union that is on strike. Most of the time other Unions will respect a Union picket line, if there is one there. If there isn't an active picket line, then it's about 50/50.

 

[Sheldon]

I'm not real up on this so someone correct me if I'm wrong. Say if you're in a union and the union decides to go on strike. Don't you HAVE to stop working even if you don't want to?

Whether you have an obligation or not kinda depends on the union, but usually you pretty much have no choice.

You could break with the union and become a scab, but that's also a dangerous proposition

That's kind of what I was thinking. This bill seems like it could be unfair punishment for something that's beyond a individual's control.

I wonder how much tax dollars it will save?

 

[R.D.]

Become a CEO

Yeah, because that could really happen.
That is the problem with you republicans, you have this notion that maybe one day you will be rich. When in reality it probably will never happen and you screw yourself over by voting like you are.

Theses right wing policies is exactly why I will never join the republican aka the party that is screwing the american worker. I think it is terrible, but hey it was that union worker that crashed the market........... oh wait!

I don't see any reason that you can't obtain a job that will keep you and your family alive.
Are you claiming that some people are flat unable to make it ? If so, why?

Generational welfare makes it a choice to be unable

 

[Anachronism]

I almost had to deal with crossing a picket line back in 2003. I was a contract employee in the Engineering Department at the company I now work for. The Union employees came within hours of striking twice that spring at the end of their contract negotiations.

I wasn't looking forward to doing it, but I would have done what was necessary... While wearing my bulletproof vest and carrying "deternts" with me.

 

[VaYank5150]

I'm not real up on this so someone correct me if I'm wrong. Say if you're in a union and the union decides to go on strike. Don't you HAVE to stop working even if you don't want to?

No, you do not.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Wouldn't it be tough love if a worker strikes because the company etc tries to screw them? I guess it isnt tough love then, and we should feel bad for the company trying to screw the worker, but god forbid we stand up for the worker.

If you don't like what you're being paid then quit. It's that simple. Nobody is entitled to give you what you want.

YOu ever wonder why the middle class has been on the decline since you guys started going after unions?

Unions are part of the reason why the middle class has been on the decline.

 

[Anachronism]

No, you do not.

That would be a very dangerous position to take.

In the Union that I am now associated with, I know how that would be dealt with....

AFTER the strike was over, Union charges would be brought against ANY Union member who crossed that line. Upon being found guilty they would be removed from the Union. That being so, and their job being a Unionized position, they would be out of a job.

 

[GHook93]

They cut a small clip of the clause and then toss in assertion. My father-in-law works in labor law. A common tactic for union members is to strike and then go on public assistance. They can qualify for all these programs because they don't have income. The employer is losing money and feeling the pain, but the worker gets a little bit of an out.

From the article, here is what the Republicans are trying to do. Make sure they help the helpless (ones who need help), not the hopeless (ones who can turn their situation around, but refuse to do so). Give assistance to those who need it not those who want to abuse it!

GOP Reps. Jim Jordan (OH), Tim Scott (SC), Scott Garrett (NJ), Dan Burton (IN), and Louie Gohmert (TX) have introduced H.R. 1135, which states that it is designed to “provide information on total spending on means-tested welfare programs, to provide additional work requirements, and to provide an overall spending limit on means-tested welfare programs.”

Much of the bill is based upon verifying that those who receive food stamps benefits are meeting the federal requirements for doing so.

Oh yea, another tactic the unions use! They hire picketers!!! The Union member go and take other jobs and hire picketers at minimum wages to picket the business!!! Dishonest? ubetchya!

 

[Luissa]

Gee maybe you are catching on to why they did this to our economy?

And why they keep going after the worker. They want us to work for nothing, with no rights.

You have the same right to apply for a good paying job as anyone else does.

What happens when you guys take away all the good paying jobs? That is the part you guys don't seem to understand.
You do understand that the economy does better when we have a strong middle class. Food stamps are not destroying the middle class, but you can keep telling yourself that.

 

[VaYank5150]

ThinkProgress » Buried Provision In House GOP Bill Would Cut Off Food Stamps To Entire Families If One Member Strikes


Want to talk about class warfare?

The republicans in congress have written into a bill a provision that anyone related to a striking worker will have their food stamps taken away.

So a single Mom can have her food stamps taken away for trying to strike for enough pay to get off of food stamps.


The right is full on against ANY workers rights.

Why do they hate the vast majority of Americans?

If a person CHOOSES to stop working (strike), why should I have to pay them? If I chose not to work, I would quickly find myself unemployed. If they want to strike for better pay, benefits, whatever, why don't they simply apply for a job that pays better and has better benefits?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I wonder if you guys would have a problem with them cutting food stamps to the military?

Why would we do that. Your question makes no sense.

 

[JBeukema]

Shel, this has never been about the budget. Else they wouldn't have matched these measures with tax cuts. Walker admitted the GOP's goals on the phone. It's about breaking the unions and ensuring the 50's never happen again. It's all about rolling back socialist progress and restoring Americans to the sweatshops. The rallying cry is 'compete with China'. As the proletariat around the world strives for progress and presents itself a potential new market, the bourgeoisie is working to ensure they still have unprotected working poor to exploit- by returning Americans to the things they were. They are conservatives in the strictest sense: reactionaries seeking to restore the status quo ante in order to preserve or restore their power and influence.

It is class war, pure and simple.

 

[noose4]

ThinkProgress » Buried Provision In House GOP Bill Would Cut Off Food Stamps To Entire Families If One Member Strikes


Want to talk about class warfare?

The republicans in congress have written into a bill a provision that anyone related to a striking worker will have their food stamps taken away.

So a single Mom can have her food stamps taken away for trying to strike for enough pay to get off of food stamps.


The right is full on against ANY workers rights.

Why do they hate the vast majority of Americans?

Class warfare at its finest, they are determined to bring back the days of the robber barons and the company store.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I don't know, maybe because for every $1.00 that is spent, even more is pumped into the economy.!

Really? Why don't you explain to us how that works.

 

[dilloduck]

And why they keep going after the worker. They want us to work for nothing, with no rights.

You have the same right to apply for a good paying job as anyone else does.

What happens when you guys take away all the good paying jobs? That is the part you guys don't seem to understand.
You do understand that the economy does better when we have a strong middle class. Food stamps are not destroying the middle class, but you can keep telling yourself that.

Trust me----I haven't taken anyone's job but I think that a lot of wealthy Republicans and Democrats start and operate businesses that create jobs.

 

[JBeukema]

their job being a Unionized position, they would be out of a job.

So it was a closed shop?

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Outstanding if its true since it was posted by who it was posted by the truth is they are all getting free dinners a Ruth's Cs.