No criminal charges against Biden

[excalibur]

https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2023/06/trump-indictment.pdf

How many subpoena's did Biden ignore? How many documents did he hide once he discovered the documents had been discovered?

The PR does NOT envision such action against a former President. And since it says in the PRA that a former President has an absolute right to his papers at any time, it makes senses as to why no criminal action against a former President over disagreements between him and NARA exists.

And let us not overlook Biden having classified documents from when he was a Senator.

Most damning though were Hur's remarks about Biden being an elderly man, etc.

 

[Votto]

I hear that there's a party at Gavin Newsome's house tonight.

Has knuckle head announced he was running instead of Joe yet?

 

[excalibur]

So, Joe cooperated (once he was busted).

Commit a double-murder, then cooperate with authorities. Does that cooperation mean you get to skate?

 

[MAGA Macho Man]

From Special Counsel Robert Hur:

"We have also considered that, at trial, Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory,” “It would be difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him — by then a former president well into his eighties — of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness.”

He just confirmed Biden DID COMMIT A FELONY!

Our investigation uncovered evidence that President Biden willfully retained and disclosed classified information after his vice presidency when he was a private citizen."
Willfully disclosed? First I've heard of that. Who did he disclose it to, Hunter, China? What national security information was disclosed?

Special counsel won't charge Biden in classified docs probe, despite evidence he 'willfully retained' materials

Special counsel Robert Hur won't recommend charges against President Biden for his handling of classified documents,, despite evidence he "willfully retained" materials.

abcnews.go.com

 

[excalibur]

Hur said that Biden didn't remember when he was Vice President.

Really?!? Haven't read it.

We need to see that interviews Biden gave.

 

[skye]

I guess Biden is above the law and Trump isn't according to the DOJ.

The whole Left in the Banana Republic of USA is above the Law.

 

[Paleman]

"Hur's report explicitly compares Biden's response to the federal investigation with former president Trump's. Where Biden sat for an interview and was cooperative with investigators, "Mr. Trump allegedly did the opposite," Hur Wrote, "According to the indictment, he not only refused to return the documents for many months, but he also obstructed justice."

In early January 2023, CBS News reported that classified documents had been found at Mr. Biden's private office. The White House later disclosed that more documents with classification markings had been found by his lawyers in the garage and an adjacent room of his Wilmington home in mid-December 2022. The special counsel's report confirms that FBI agents recovered materials from these locations."

All from your link.


Hur outlines material distinctions between former President Trump and Mr. Biden in their handling of sensitive documents. In Mr. Biden's case, the special counsel found there wasn't evidence that he had personally moved the documents. He cooperated with the investigation, and he may have forgotten about the documents.

Trump, however, given multiple chances to return documents taken from the White House after his presidency, he "allegedly did the opposite" of what Mr. Biden did, According to the indictment against the former president, Hur notes, Trump "not only refused to return the documents for many months, but he also obstructed justice."

So let me get this straight. If Trump and Biden decide to rob a bank of 10k, split the money, and then they get caught. Remember, they robbed a bank, which is a federal crime and results in incarceration with no wiggle room for either.

Trump, decides to stall the investigation and goes to jail.
Biden pleads senility, says I am so, so sorry, and goes free.

Sure would look like somebody was getting special consideration, just like Biden is getting re: classified documents.

 

[mamooth]

Biden’s too mentally incompetent to be President.

And yet he can beat you losers easily, while never losing his calm smile. What does that say about you?

If I were y'all, I'd stop admitting that I regularly get curbstomped by a supposedly senile old man. It makes you look even more pathetic.

Yes, I do understand that this is a facet of fascism, having the fascist rubes believe that the hated enemy is both overpoweringly strong and pathetically weak, at the same time. Biden is simultaneously a criminal mastermind and a senile old man.

 

[excalibur]

"Our investigation uncovered evidence that President Biden willfully retained and disclosed classified materials after his vice presidency when he was a private citizen," the report said.

...

The report alleges that during Mr. Biden's vice presidency, his staff struggled to "retrieve classified briefing books from Mr. Biden" and also stated that he had been instructed on best practices for handling classified information. His use of notebooks and note cards to memorialize various meetings seemed to have complicated those efforts, according to the report.

While many of the notecards were properly stored in a security facility with the National Archives, the notebooks were stored in unsecured containers in his home.

"Though none of the notebooks have classification markings, some of the notebooks contain information that remains classified up to the Top Secret/Sensitive Compartmented Information level," the report found.

Unlike Trump, Biden sat for an interview with the special counsel in October. During the discussion, Hur wrote that Biden said he kept the notebooks because "[t]hey are mine."

"Every President before me has done the same exact thing," Mr. Biden told the special counsel, according to the report.​

Special counsel finds Biden "willfully" disclosed classified documents, but no criminal charges warranted

Special counsel Robert Hur has released his report on Biden's handling of classified documents from his time as vice president.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Billiejeens]

Special Counsel Determines Biden Is Too Old
Special Counsel Robert Hur has declined to charge President Joe Biden for willfully retaining, disclosing and grossly mishandling a number of classified documents as a private citizen -- taking them from his time in the U.S. Senate and after he left the vice presidency in early 2017. He had no declassification authority in either position and shared information with his ghostwriter.
Citing Biden's age and memory, the report states a jury would not find him guilty.

"We have also considered that, at trial, Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during out interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory," the report states. "Based on our direct interactions with and observations of him, he is someone for whom many jurors will want to identify reasonable doubt. It would be difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him — by then a former president well into his eighties — of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness."

"Mr. Biden's memory was significantly limited, both during his recorded interviews with the ghostwriter in 2017, and in his interview with our office in 2023. And his cooperation with our investigation, including by reporting to the government that the Afghanistan documents were in his Delaware garage, will likely convince some jurors that he made an innocent mistake, rather than acting willfully-that is, with intent to break the law-as the statute requires," the report continues.

BJ -

Shock.
No not really.

Biden's brain went bad a long time ago.

 

[Rambunctious]

Not too old but too senile an crooked...

 

[Rambunctious]

He was faking it... he didn't want to get caught lying...

 

[skye]

Not too old but too senile an crooked...

I second the crooked part!

 

[Billiejeens]

Not too old but too senile an crooked...

It's OFFICIAL.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Sounds like an underhanded way to hurt him within the Dem Establishment. Now someone will gently take him aside and say "look at the comments Mr. Biden, please step down and let another Dem run for the good of the country".

Biden is as fit as a fiddle! The man earned more of the black vote than even Obama!

 

[theHawk]

Surprise! The Biden Regime won’t charge Biden who clearly violated federal laws.


And no, giving the documents back after being caught doesn’t change the fact that he violated laws having possession of such documents.

 

[Genevieve]

Special Counsel Determines Biden Is Too Old
Special Counsel Robert Hur has declined to charge President Joe Biden for willfully retaining, disclosing and grossly mishandling a number of classified documents as a private citizen -- taking them from his time in the U.S. Senate and after he left the vice presidency in early 2017. He had no declassification authority in either position and shared information with his ghostwriter.
Citing Biden's age and memory, the report states a jury would not find him guilty.

"We have also considered that, at trial, Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during out interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory," the report states. "Based on our direct interactions with and observations of him, he is someone for whom many jurors will want to identify reasonable doubt. It would be difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him — by then a former president well into his eighties — of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness."

"Mr. Biden's memory was significantly limited, both during his recorded interviews with the ghostwriter in 2017, and in his interview with our office in 2023. And his cooperation with our investigation, including by reporting to the government that the Afghanistan documents were in his Delaware garage, will likely convince some jurors that he made an innocent mistake, rather than acting willfully-that is, with intent to break the law-as the statute requires," the report continues.

BJ -

Shock.
No not really.

Biden's brain went bad a long time ago.

I find it interesting that Biden is totally competent and coherent when anyone questions his ability to do his job as POTUS.

Then, somehow, he is found incompetent and incoherent ....regarding having classified documents that he had illegally and that were stashed in places that are not secure. Since when is "He didn't mean to do it" a good defense for breaking the law? Since when is "He is too stupid to know he did wrong" a viable defense?

And with that kind of defense, isn't he too mentally compromised to be POTUS?

 

[Winco]

I’ll take that bet. IMO Biden will be in the game right up until the convention then for health or family reasons he will step aside allowing the delegates to vote on the person the party wants on the ticket. Democrats can’t risk the public not voting the way they want.

Sounds like a Great Plan.

SO who are the (D) going to pick when Biden drops out?

 

[marvin martian]

"We have also considered that, at trial, Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory,” “It would be difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him — by then a former president well into his eighties — of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness.”

Wow, they wrote a nice Trump campaign ad right there!

 

[shockedcanadian]

You know what is interesting about this though, what if someone honestly forgets some details? And/or, let's say this was a crime and he inadvertently lied in court, would he be charged with purgery? Seems unfair but I bet it happens often.