Nikki Haley Tells the U.N. to Butt Out

[harmonica]

The UN should realize that they need us more than we need them.

And why's that? The US needs the UN so it can try and legitimize its wars.

China is working hard to get the UN to do its bidding too.

the US provides the largest amount of $$$ to the UN --that's why
we could save mucho tax $$$ by not giving them any--this would help the US
we should stop a lot of this giving $$ away that are WASTED anyway!!!!!!!
..most of our military action is for self defense/ reaction to other countries attacks
PG1 and the continuation of that in PG2
Afghnaistan
Beirut and Balkans we were ASKED to help
Grenada
killing Osama
Korea
..South Vietnamese government wanted our help -President Thieu was practically begging Nixon to keep troops there..sure some did not want us, but it's not like we invaded it per the Colonial powers in the 19th century
most--if not all--are not invasions to take territory/take over a country/etc

 

[harmonica]

Good for Haley! She needs to run for President!

Yeah that’s smart. To well over 50% of the country she’s an abomination for blindly supporting the Trump administration, and to the rest of the population a dark skinned woman is like garlic to a vampire. That’ll work really well for her

.....a lot of people don't vote in all the elections, so no one really knows what percentage of the people really hate or love any POTUS/etc
...surveys are unreliable-as we saw in the last election

 

[Flash]

The UN is not too worried about Trump or Haley.

It is in it for the long run, and the short timers will be gone soon enough.

The UN is a worthless organization of welfare queens and the US is its Sugar Daddy. Trump is putting an end to being the Sugar Daddy and that is a good thing. God bless Trump.

Trump may even try that but he will fail.

He has already cut back money. I suspect there will be more to come. That is a good thing. Screw the welfare queens. They can go find somebody else to pay their bills.

Those third world shitholes can get together all they want to discuss silly things like climate change and how bad the Palestinians are being treated but who really gives a crap?

 

[frigidweirdo]

The UN should realize that they need us more than we need them.

And why's that? The US needs the UN so it can try and legitimize its wars.

China is working hard to get the UN to do its bidding too.

the US provides the largest amount of $$$ to the UN --that's why
we could save mucho tax $$$ by not giving them any--this would help the US
we should stop a lot of this giving $$ away that are WASTED anyway!!!!!!!
..most of our military action is for self defense/ reaction to other countries attacks
PG1 and the continuation of that in PG2
Afghnaistan
Beirut and Balkans we were ASKED to help
Grenada
killing Osama
Korea
..South Vietnamese government wanted our help -President Thieu was practically begging Nixon to keep troops there..sure some did not want us, but it's not like we invaded it per the Colonial powers in the 19th century
most--if not all--are not invasions to take territory/take over a country/etc

And why do you think the US has provided the greatest amount of cash to the UN?

Could it be that the US demands the UN does its bidding?

And yes, the US will save money not paying for the UN. But sometimes you need to spend money to make money.

Look at the UK and Brexit. Since Brexit they've lost about 12-15% on the value of the pound. All their exports have been reduced. They're selling MORE and making LESS money. They've lost far more money than they claimed they'd save by leaving the EU and they haven't even left yet.

What do you think the US will lose?

The Marshall Plan. How much money do you think the US made out of giving money to different countries? A shit load.

But if you want to do primary school math and pretend it all adds up when you don't understand the difficult stuff, go ahead.

No, most US action is not self defense or being provoked by other countries.

Afghanistan did NOT attack the US.
Iraq did NOT attack the US.
Yemen did NOT attack the US.
Somalia did NOT attack the US.

Saudi Arabia, now there's a case that they DID attack the US on 9/11 and what? Oh, the US sends president after fucking whore of president over their to kiss their dirty asses and sell them weapons.

Wow.

Being asked for help is one thing. But giving it requires something.

Do you know the Powell Doctrine? It's rather new, doesn't include Vietnam, for example. But it does include Afghanistan and Iraq and Yemen, and Somalia and things like that.

Go look it up. The US doesn't fight for good any more. It fights for US INTERESTS ONLY.

But you can pretend the US is good, somehow if you like.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Such thinking has been the minority before and will return to the minority.

ME terrorists have been attacking Americans and their interests for decades, to be honest.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Such thinking has been the minority before and will return to the minority.

ME terrorists have been attacking Americans and their interests for decades, to be honest.

And the US has been attacking the ME for decades, to be honest.

 

[JakeStarkey]

And will continue to do so until the ME terrorists stop. Or are all dead. Even if it takes 150 years or more.

 

[frigidweirdo]

And will continue to do so until the ME terrorists stop. Or are all dead. Even if it takes 150 years or more.

So, it won't stop, and the US arms manufacturers will be happy that they can continue to see excellent profits from people's deaths in far off countries.

Especially countries that should have nothing to do with the US.

How far is the Middle East from the US exactly?

Why the fuck is the US there?

Wait for it..........................oil.

Ahhhhhhhh

 

[pismoe]

The UN should realize that they need us more than we need them.

And why's that? The US needs the UN so it can try and legitimize its wars.

China is working hard to get the UN to do its bidding too.

the US provides the largest amount of $$$ to the UN --that's why
we could save mucho tax $$$ by not giving them any--this would help the US
we should stop a lot of this giving $$ away that are WASTED anyway!!!!!!!
..most of our military action is for self defense/ reaction to other countries attacks
PG1 and the continuation of that in PG2
Afghnaistan
Beirut and Balkans we were ASKED to help
Grenada
killing Osama
Korea
..South Vietnamese government wanted our help -President Thieu was practically begging Nixon to keep troops there..sure some did not want us, but it's not like we invaded it per the Colonial powers in the 19th century
most--if not all--are not invasions to take territory/take over a country/etc

And why do you think the US has provided the greatest amount of cash to the UN?

Could it be that the US demands the UN does its bidding?

And yes, the US will save money not paying for the UN. But sometimes you need to spend money to make money.

Look at the UK and Brexit. Since Brexit they've lost about 12-15% on the value of the pound. All their exports have been reduced. They're selling MORE and making LESS money. They've lost far more money than they claimed they'd save by leaving the EU and they haven't even left yet.

What do you think the US will lose?

The Marshall Plan. How much money do you think the US made out of giving money to different countries? A shit load.

But if you want to do primary school math and pretend it all adds up when you don't understand the difficult stuff, go ahead.

No, most US action is not self defense or being provoked by other countries.

Afghanistan did NOT attack the US.
Iraq did NOT attack the US.
Yemen did NOT attack the US.
Somalia did NOT attack the US.

Saudi Arabia, now there's a case that they DID attack the US on 9/11 and what? Oh, the US sends president after fucking whore of president over their to kiss their dirty asses and sell them weapons.

Wow.

Being asked for help is one thing. But giving it requires something.

Do you know the Powell Doctrine? It's rather new, doesn't include Vietnam, for example. But it does include Afghanistan and Iraq and Yemen, and Somalia and things like that.

Go look it up. The US doesn't fight for good any more. It fights for US INTERESTS ONLY.

But you can pretend the US is good, somehow if you like.

----------------------------------------- I'm more interested in USA Sovereignty and Independence then i am in making more money Frigid ,

 

[OldLady]

The UN should realize that they need us more than we need them.

That's the same response I keep hearing about everything--trade, NATO, EU, etc. etc. I think some folks need to realize that things are not the way they were fifty or sixty years ago. We do not have the best educated children or the healthiest citizens or the largest economy anymore. Times have changed. The world has rebuilt and countries that were knocked backward by WWII are back. Globalization has brought new major players onto the field, like China. The days of strutting around stiff necked and arrogant should be over. It's time we listened.
A lot of Americans think the UN's decision about our treatment of immigrants is right, too, btw. I know you don't agree with that, but maybe you could at least consider other ways of approaching the problem that don't separate children from their parents.

 

[OldLady]

The UN should realize that they need us more than we need them.

And why's that? The US needs the UN so it can try and legitimize its wars.

China is working hard to get the UN to do its bidding too.

the US provides the largest amount of $$$ to the UN --that's why
we could save mucho tax $$$ by not giving them any--this would help the US
we should stop a lot of this giving $$ away that are WASTED anyway!!!!!!!
..most of our military action is for self defense/ reaction to other countries attacks
PG1 and the continuation of that in PG2
Afghnaistan
Beirut and Balkans we were ASKED to help
Grenada
killing Osama
Korea
..South Vietnamese government wanted our help -President Thieu was practically begging Nixon to keep troops there..sure some did not want us, but it's not like we invaded it per the Colonial powers in the 19th century
most--if not all--are not invasions to take territory/take over a country/etc

Every penny we spend on humanitarian aid is worth a dollar in military expenses down the road. Nikki Haley has been busy looking at how and where that money is being spent and that's a good thing, but stopping the aid like you want to do? Short sighted and not a "savings" at all. We don't do it to be nice.

The UN has a very important function that everyone is overlooking. Until its founding, there has never been an international Council where every country in the world could gather to talk and to address problems that impact each other. It is designed to let people argue rather than invade or bomb each other. And do not forget: Without the UN, there would not have been enough effective sanctions to bring North Korea to last week's summit. Do not forget that.

 

[harmonica]

The UN should realize that they need us more than we need them.

And why's that? The US needs the UN so it can try and legitimize its wars.

China is working hard to get the UN to do its bidding too.

the US provides the largest amount of $$$ to the UN --that's why
we could save mucho tax $$$ by not giving them any--this would help the US
we should stop a lot of this giving $$ away that are WASTED anyway!!!!!!!
..most of our military action is for self defense/ reaction to other countries attacks
PG1 and the continuation of that in PG2
Afghnaistan
Beirut and Balkans we were ASKED to help
Grenada
killing Osama
Korea
..South Vietnamese government wanted our help -President Thieu was practically begging Nixon to keep troops there..sure some did not want us, but it's not like we invaded it per the Colonial powers in the 19th century
most--if not all--are not invasions to take territory/take over a country/etc

Every penny we spend on humanitarian aid is worth a dollar in military expenses down the road. Nikki Haley has been busy looking at how and where that money is being spent and that's a good thing, but stopping the aid like you want to do? Short sighted and not a "savings" at all. We don't do it to be nice.

The UN has a very important function that everyone is overlooking. Until its founding, there has never been an international Council where every country in the world could gather to talk and to address problems that impact each other. It is designed to let people argue rather than invade or bomb each other. And do not forget: Without the UN, there would not have been enough effective sanctions to bring North Korea to last week's summit. Do not forget that.

humanitarian aid does not necessarily stop conflicts/etc
please explain how humanitarian aid keeps military expenses down

 

[cnm]

Nikki Haley Tells the U.N. to Butt Out

Does this mean she's not going to host a party for those that voted America's way?

Pretty chilling.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The UN Human Rights Council condemned the USA for the way it enforces it immigration laws.

But what really seemed to irk Ambassador Haley when she got out of bed on Tuesday was the U.N.’s “hypocrisy by calling out the United States while it ignores the reprehensible human rights records of several members of its own Human Rights Council.” The HRC is a body that currently includes such bastions of enlightened humanitarianism as Afghanistan, China, Cuba, Ethiopia, Iraq, and Venezuela, to name just a few.

Click on the above link to see all the members of this hypocrite-filled body.

More @ Nikki Haley Tells the U.N. to Butt Out

In Trump's second term he'll have the US leave the UN and boot them the fuck out of the USA. Play time is over

 

[pismoe]

The UN should realize that they need us more than we need them.

That's the same response I keep hearing about everything--trade, NATO, EU, etc. etc. I think some folks need to realize that things are not the way they were fifty or sixty years ago. We do not have the best educated children or the healthiest citizens or the largest economy anymore. Times have changed. The world has rebuilt and countries that were knocked backward by WWII are back. Globalization has brought new major players onto the field, like China. The days of strutting around stiff necked and arrogant should be over. It's time we listened.
A lot of Americans think the UN's decision about our treatment of immigrants is right, too, btw. I know you don't agree with that, but maybe you could at least consider other ways of approaching the problem that don't separate children from their parents.

----------------------------- even if what you think is accurate its time to knock the rest of the world back on its heels where they belong . You sound very much like 'mrobama' telling Americans that its not coming back OldLady .

 

[JakeStarkey]

The America of the fifties is not coming back, mropismoe, sur.

 

[pismoe]

Foreign Aid or give them MY money , ------------ and i don't know why i care if 'arabs' in syria kill arabs in 'iraq' or ' kill persians' in 'iran' or if mexicans kill 'guatamalens' in guatamala [for examples] .

 

[harmonica]

The UN should realize that they need us more than we need them.

And why's that? The US needs the UN so it can try and legitimize its wars.

China is working hard to get the UN to do its bidding too.

the US provides the largest amount of $$$ to the UN --that's why
we could save mucho tax $$$ by not giving them any--this would help the US
we should stop a lot of this giving $$ away that are WASTED anyway!!!!!!!
..most of our military action is for self defense/ reaction to other countries attacks
PG1 and the continuation of that in PG2
Afghnaistan
Beirut and Balkans we were ASKED to help
Grenada
killing Osama
Korea
..South Vietnamese government wanted our help -President Thieu was practically begging Nixon to keep troops there..sure some did not want us, but it's not like we invaded it per the Colonial powers in the 19th century
most--if not all--are not invasions to take territory/take over a country/etc

Every penny we spend on humanitarian aid is worth a dollar in military expenses down the road. Nikki Haley has been busy looking at how and where that money is being spent and that's a good thing, but stopping the aid like you want to do? Short sighted and not a "savings" at all. We don't do it to be nice.

The UN has a very important function that everyone is overlooking. Until its founding, there has never been an international Council where every country in the world could gather to talk and to address problems that impact each other. It is designed to let people argue rather than invade or bomb each other. And do not forget: Without the UN, there would not have been enough effective sanctions to bring North Korea to last week's summit. Do not forget that.

but there have still been many, many wars/conflicts/etc
UN soldiers were murdered in Uganda--the UN did NOTHING
Nasser kicked the UN peacekeeping force out of the Sinai --then the Six Day War
they took UN troops prisoners as shields in the Balkans!!!
Rwandan genocide
Balkans genocide
Cambodian genocide
terrorism
etc etc etc
the world has not changed ..the UN is powerless
Nikki Haley Tells the U.N. to Butt Out

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The America of the fifties is not coming back, mropismoe, sur.

No wonder you loved Obama, you sound as defeatist as him.

Trump wiped out ISIS while golfing, even AFTER Obama made sure they had the top of the line US military hardware.

The USA is expanding while Progressives are shrinking.

 

[pismoe]

and SUR Jakey doesn't even do good and original insults .