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The Patriot Act probably would have stoped the Oklahoma City bombing because of all the red flags that would have gone up upon the request to purchase such large amounts of those explosive ingredients.
The deep secret of losertarians is that they are ok with a random 9/11 attack as long as they can smoke their crack in peace, buy their bombs in peace, sleep with their animals in peace, do whatever they want in peace without somone finding out etc........
Wow... So libertarians are ok with attacks like 9/11 now... Do you people even hear yourselves? And you call us kooky and crazy.
According to former CIA analyst Michael Scheuer, who led the CIA's hunt for Osama bin Laden, the al-Qaeda leader was motivated by a belief that U.S. foreign policy has oppressed, killed, or otherwise harmed Muslims in the Middle East,[45] condensed in the phrase "They hate us for what we do, not who we are."
Amazing, eh, Sarge?Wow...............
The deep secret of losertarians is that they are ok with a random 9/11 attack as long as they can smoke their crack in peace, buy their bombs in peace, sleep with their animals in peace, do whatever they want in peace without somone finding out etc........
Wow... So libertarians are ok with attacks like 9/11 now... Do you people even hear yourselves? And you call us kooky and crazy.
Wow... So libertarians are ok with attacks like 9/11 now... Do you people even hear yourselves? And you call us kooky and crazy.
According to former CIA analyst Michael Scheuer, who led the CIA's hunt for Osama bin Laden, the al-Qaeda leader was motivated by a belief that U.S. foreign policy has oppressed, killed, or otherwise harmed Muslims in the Middle East,[45] condensed in the phrase "They hate us for what we do, not who we are."
It is the neocon hawks that caused the attacks
If America were isolationist and minded their own business 9/11 would have never happened
if you support the neocons you are asking for MORE attacks in the future
Paul Vs. Gingrich on Patriot Act, Liberty and Security - YouTube
Paul "We delt with it relatively well with Timmothy McVeigh"
Yep we did AFTER everyone was dead.
I've not made up my mind on who i'll endorse......It damn sure won't be Paul, Bachmann, Santorum, or Huntsman.....But I would absolutely love to watch Newt slaughter Obama, or Biden for that matter in debate.Paul Vs. Gingrich on Patriot Act, Liberty and Security - YouTube
Paul "We delt with it relatively well with Timmothy McVeigh"
Yep we did AFTER everyone was dead.
This cut gave Ron Batguono the last word, but Newt Pwnd him...
It doesn't matter who runs against Obama....The left wing smear merchants will be out in force......That is Paul's worse nightmare. The looniness we've witnessed from him will be thrust out front and center.Unfortunately for Newt, while he would destroy Obama in debate anytime anyplace, Obama would destroy Newt via media smear campaign. I honestly don't think Newt is electable in a general election for that reason. I'm voting for Ron Paul in the primaries but if Newt gets the nom, I'll vote for him vs Obama.
Come on, buddy....you didn't do a quick Google....Ya' went to Paul's site and got, "the latest link to try and save ol' Dr. Paul's ignorant ass"Simply cannot think of one of my rights that I have ever lost.
RP is wrong on this. I agree with Newt, I want to stop them before the attack, not catch up with them afterward.
I did a super quick google...
RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS WE HAVE NEEDLESSLYLOST IN THE NAME OF NATIONAL SECURITY
Through the enactment of the USA PATRIOT Act and subsequentexecutive directives and regulations, essential rights and freedomsthat were once guaranteed to all individuals have been substantiallydegraded. Many Americans still do not realize the significance ofwhat we have lost. The resulting expansion of government powers,and the erosion of 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th and 14th amendment rights and freedoms have transformed the United States.
1st AMENDMENT FREEDOM OF SPEECH The Patriot Act broadly expands the official definition ofterrorism, so that many domestic groups that engage innonviolent civil disobedience could very well find themselveslabeled as terrorists. The Government may now prosecute librarians or keepersof any other records if they reveal that the governmentrequested information on their clients or members in thecourse of an investigation. It has become a crime for theseindividuals to try to safeguard your privacy or to tell youthat you are under investigation.
1st AMENDMENT FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION Government agents may now monitor the First Amendment-protected activities of religious and political institutions, andthen infiltrate these groups with no suspicion of criminalactivity. This is a return to domestic spying on law-abidingreligious and political groups. You may now be the subject of a government investigationsimply because of the political, activist, or advocacygroups you are involved in, or the statements you makewithin these groups.
1st AMENDMENT RIGHT TO ACCESSGOVERNMENT INFORMATION A U.S. Department of Justice directive actively encouragesfederal, state, and local officials to resist and/or limit accessto government records through Freedom of Information Act(FOIA) requests. The Government has conducted immigration hearings insecret behind closed doors. Such proceedings were onceopen to the public. Hundreds, if not thousands, of immigrantshave already been deported in secret.
RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS WEVE LOST SINCE 9-11
4th AMENDMENT FREEDOM FROM UNREASONABLE SEARCHES &SEIZURES Law Enforcement authorities may now conduct secret searches and wiretaps in your home or officewithout showing probable cause. They need only to claim that intelligence gathering is a significantpurpose of their intrusion, even when the primary goal is ordinary law enforcement. They may alsomonitor where and to whom you send and receive e-mail, or where you go on the Internet, recordingevery e-mail address and website you have been in contact with. Law Enforcement may now demand any personal records held by any source including your doctor,employer, accountant, or library. All they have to do is claim that it is related to an investigation intoterrorism. The record keepers may not reveal that your records were provided to the government. Judicial oversight of secret searches has been effectively minimized. The Patriot Act directs judges toconsent to secret searches based only on the Governments assertion that a significant purpose ofan investigation is gathering information related to terrorism, as the government defines it.
5th AMENDMENT RIGHT TO DUE PROCESS & FREEDOM FROM BEING HELD WITHOUT CHARGE
Americans can now be jailed without a formal charge & without the right to confront the witnesses orevidence against them. American citizens are now being held in military jails without charge and with-out a clear path of appeal for their indefinite confinement. Hundreds of Arab, Muslim and South Asian men were rounded up in the Ashcroft raids followingSeptember 11, and held for weeks without charges until all were cleared of terrorism charges
6th AMENDMENT RIGHT TO LEGAL REPRESENTATION
Hundreds of U.S. residents have been detained for months at a time, and denied access to the adviceand advocacy of an attorney. The Government may now monitor conversations between attorneys &clients in federal jails. The Bush Administration filed papers in court that arguing that an American citizen held in a militaryjail without charge should be denied access to legal counsel because such access would interfere withthe process of his interrogation.
6th AMENDMENT RIGHT TO A SPEEDY AND PUBLIC TRIAL
The U.S. Government may now jail its residents and citizens indefinitely without charge & without a public trial.
8th AMENDMENT FREEDOM FROM CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENTS
The U.S. Government has taken into custody individuals they identify as material witnesses, trans-ported them across the country, and held them for months in solitary confinement without charge orcontact with their family. According to the Justice Departments own Inspector General, immigrant men rounded up in theAshcroft raids following September 11 and held in the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn, NYwere subjected to a pattern of physical and verbal abuse.
14th AMENDMENT RIGHT TO EQUAL PROTECTION
Over 82,000 men from Arab, Muslim and South Asian countries registered with the Governmentunder the Special Registration program. Over 13,000 are now in deportation proceedings. Nonehave been charged with terrorism
You're the idiots claiming the CIA and FBI are spying on everyone while trying to catch the terrorists here and abroad.....so you must want the spying to end and the attacks to go on.....
Oh, you live in another world where the terrorists will be nice once we quit rounding them up or listening to their phonecalls.
The deep secret of losertarians is that they are ok with a random 9/11 attack as long as they can smoke their crack in peace, buy their bombs in peace, sleep with their animals in peace, do whatever they want in peace without somone finding out etc........
Wow... So libertarians are ok with attacks like 9/11 now... Do you people even hear yourselves? And you call us kooky and crazy.
You're the idiots claiming the CIA and FBI are spying on everyone while trying to catch the terrorists here and abroad.....so you must want the spying to end and the attacks to go on.....
Oh, you live in another world where the terrorists will be nice once we quit rounding them up or listening to their phonecalls.
Wow... So libertarians are ok with attacks like 9/11 now... Do you people even hear yourselves? And you call us kooky and crazy.
Aww you're just mad because Paul is polling better than Mitt in Iowa.
It's ok, like and make up shit all you like, it won't change reality.
He is?You're the idiots claiming the CIA and FBI are spying on everyone while trying to catch the terrorists here and abroad.....so you must want the spying to end and the attacks to go on.....
Oh, you live in another world where the terrorists will be nice once we quit rounding them up or listening to their phonecalls.
Wow... So libertarians are ok with attacks like 9/11 now... Do you people even hear yourselves? And you call us kooky and crazy.
Aww you're just mad because Paul is polling better than Mitt in Iowa.
It's ok, like and make up shit all you like, it won't change reality.
Paul Vs. Gingrich on Patriot Act, Liberty and Security - YouTube
Paul "We delt with it relatively well with Timmothy McVeigh"
Yep we did AFTER everyone was dead.
