New TEA Partier Here

[Statistikhengst]

I am well aware; just as I'm well aware that this country hasn't had a legitimate Government since 1861.

 

[Statistikhengst]

I'm new to the boards but not new to the TEA Party. I volunteered for Mitt Romney in 2012 and will do so again when he runs in 2016. I hope I can get to know my fellow patriots here.

Mitt Romney?

Clue: Get one today

what, you no likey mitt romneyy?

 

[jillian]

Welcome. Try not to link from drudge too much.

Drudge Report is a good source for information, is it not liked here? Do you have something better?

Libs get their news from the Colbert Report and the Daily Show

only in rightwingnutworld, honey. but they probably are more reliable than anything on fake news.

Oh, right, I forgot to mention Randi Rhodes

really? that would be interesting. no doubt you can tell me where I get my news, hon.

Oh you're a NYTimes reader

NPR
BBC
NY Times (should I be embarrassed about that? the right loved the times when they did baby bush's bidding in the run-up to the Iraq war).
Jerusalem Post

I could go on.

oh... to save you the trouble... never fake news. I don't believe in being intentionally misinformed.

You don't believe in being intentionally misinformed yet you read the Times who have admitted that they are liberally biased? Hmmmm....

when did I say the times is liberally biased?

I said they did baby bush's bidding. or have you forgotten judy miller's propaganda with the false intel about WMD's in Iraq.

I do like how you ignore the other things I read. the times is only one. and intelligent people generally recognize it to be the paper of record.

oh right.

You didn't say the Times was liberally biased, Jillian...the Times themselves admitted that they were.

It's sad, Jillian that at one point The New York Times WAS the paper of record but that's a time that has passed. The Times traded it's reputation for journalism to support the liberal agenda of the people who ran it.
As for the "other" things you read? Do you really not know that NPR also has a liberal slant?

the times is still the paper of record. but i'm not going to have that debate with you since your idea of journalism is fake news.

you're also still ignoring the fact that i noted a cross-section of sources because you're only interested in railing againsg the new York times.

btw, if you weren't doing the rightwnignut thing and actually asked me my thoughts, i'd have told you that there is a lot in the times' editorial policy with which i disagree.

but you didn't ask because you aren't really interested. you're only interested in doing the winger dance.

 

[Statistikhengst]

It's his loss. Like I said, this is bound to get interesting.

 

[jillian]

You people are wrong when you say its against the law to overthrow the government. Read the Preamble of The Declaration of Independence.

false.

treason is the only criminal act defined in the constitution.

and for the record, the Declaration of Independence isn't law.

 

[Statistikhengst]

You people are wrong when you say its against the law to overthrow the government. Read the Preamble of The Declaration of Independence.

false.

treason is the only criminal act defined in the constitution.

and for the record, the Declaration of Independence isn't law.

Now, let them scratch their heads over that one for a while.

 

[Darlene]

The changes we need are so far past being made by politicians it's disgusting. People with rifles change the things we need to change.

Are you aware that it is a crime to advocate for the overthrow of the U.S. government?

Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or
Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or
Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

18 U.S. Code 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government LII Legal Information Institute

99.9% of humans don't deserve Freedom.

And you're one of them. Have fun in prison, insurgent.

Only the violent overthrow of the government is forbidden

This is the Preamble of The Declaration of Independence:

Preamble Outlines a general philosophy of government that justifies revolution when government harms natural rights.[78]

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

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[Darlene]

I know its not "law" but its the philosophy that has been lost throughout time, allowing the government to become too powerful and turn on its people.

 

[jillian]

You people are wrong when you say its against the law to overthrow the government. Read the Preamble of The Declaration of Independence.

false.

treason is the only criminal act defined in the constitution.

and for the record, the Declaration of Independence isn't law.

Now, let them scratch their heads over that one for a while.

yeah, that always seemed to upset them.

 

[jillian]

I know its not "law" but its the philosophy that has been lost throughout time, allowing the government to become too powerful and turn on its people.

no. again treason was and is against the law.

try reading the constitution.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Since when have Tea Partiers cared about the rule of law or the Constitution?

 

[Darlene]

Right of revolution - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
We also have the right of revolution.

 

[Darlene]

I know its not "law" but its the philosophy that has been lost throughout time, allowing the government to become too powerful and turn on its people.

no. again treason was and is against the law.

try reading the constitution.

And what if the government is guilty of treason? Are the people just supposed to roll over and let the government walk all over them? Nope. That's why we have certain rights and duties.
Definition of treason (n)
Bing Dictionary

• trea·son
• [ tréez'n ]

1. betrayal of country: a violation of the allegiance owed by somebody to his or her own country, e.g. by aiding an enemy.
2. treachery: betrayal or disloyalty
3. act of betrayal: an act of betrayal or disloyalty

 

[blackhawk]

I'm new to the boards but not new to the TEA Party. I volunteered for Mitt Romney in 2012 and will do so again when he runs in 2016. I hope I can get to know my fellow patriots here.

Have you been called a racist yet? If not you will be.

 

[jillian]

I know its not "law" but its the philosophy that has been lost throughout time, allowing the government to become too powerful and turn on its people.

no. again treason was and is against the law.

try reading the constitution.

And what if the government is guilty of treason? Are the people just supposed to roll over and let the government walk all over them? Nope. That's why we have certain rights and duties.
Definition of treason (n)
Bing Dictionary

• trea·son
• [ tréez'n ]

1. betrayal of country: a violation of the allegiance owed by somebody to his or her own country, e.g. by aiding an enemy.
2. treachery: betrayal or disloyalty
3. act of betrayal: an act of betrayal or disloyalty

and? your point. the crime is defined in the constitution. try again.

 

[jillian]

I'm new to the boards but not new to the TEA Party. I volunteered for Mitt Romney in 2012 and will do so again when he runs in 2016. I hope I can get to know my fellow patriots here.

Have you been called a racist yet? If not you will be.

only if he's a racist.

 

[Darlene]

I know its not "law" but its the philosophy that has been lost throughout time, allowing the government to become too powerful and turn on its people.

no. again treason was and is against the law.

try reading the constitution.

And what if the government is guilty of treason? Are the people just supposed to roll over and let the government walk all over them? Nope. That's why we have certain rights and duties.
Definition of treason (n)
Bing Dictionary

• trea·son
• [ tréez'n ]

1. betrayal of country: a violation of the allegiance owed by somebody to his or her own country, e.g. by aiding an enemy.
2. treachery: betrayal or disloyalty
3. act of betrayal: an act of betrayal or disloyalty

 

[jillian]

I know its not "law" but its the philosophy that has been lost throughout time, allowing the government to become too powerful and turn on its people.

no. again treason was and is against the law.

try reading the constitution.

And what if the government is guilty of treason? Are the people just supposed to roll over and let the government walk all over them? Nope. That's why we have certain rights and duties.
Definition of treason (n)
Bing Dictionary

• trea·son
• [ tréez'n ]

1. betrayal of country: a violation of the allegiance owed by somebody to his or her own country, e.g. by aiding an enemy.
2. treachery: betrayal or disloyalty
3. act of betrayal: an act of betrayal or disloyalty

jeeze... please don't respond to me again. government CAN'T be treasonous.

dismissed.

have a good stay on the boards.

 

[LiberalMedia]

You people are wrong when you say its against the law to overthrow the government. Read the Preamble of The Declaration of Independence.

false.

treason is the only criminal act defined in the constitution.

and for the record, the Declaration of Independence isn't law.

I'm feeling a bit dyslexic today and am having trouble reading something on the government website for the Office of the Law Revision Counsel, located here.

It says "Browse the United States Code" in bold, and I understand what that means.

Then it says "Front Matter"; no problems there.

But then there are two lines after that which I just can't seem to decipher, followed by "Articles of Confederation - 1777", "Ordinance of 1787: The Northwest Territorial Government", and a few other documents.

Can you explain to me what those two mysterious lines are? Could you maybe post the text of them here? Perhaps seeing it in USMB's typeface will help.

 

[jillian]

You people are wrong when you say its against the law to overthrow the government. Read the Preamble of The Declaration of Independence.

false.

treason is the only criminal act defined in the constitution.

and for the record, the Declaration of Independence isn't law.

I'm feeling a bit dyslexic today and am having trouble reading something on the government website for the Office of the Law Revision Counsel, located here.

It says "Browse the United States Code" in bold, and I understand what that means.

Then it says "Front Matter"; no problems there.

But then there are two lines after that which I just can't seem to decipher, followed by "Articles of Confederation - 1777", "Ordinance of 1787: The Northwest Territorial Government", and a few other documents.

Can you explain to me what those two mysterious lines are? Could you maybe post the text of them here? Perhaps seeing it in USMB's typeface will help.

what's confusing to you? an inability to discern what is law and what is simply an historic document?

good luck.