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After the OP has blown up, the reactionaries on the far right simply attack personality. They give nothing on OP.
Nobody has successfully refuted the author's conclusions, including you. If you have evidence the author of the piece in wrong, and suspension of the employer mandate, delaying the inevitable mass cancellations or termination of millions of employer plans, bring in forward.
Of course the story has been covered by CNN, FOX, NBC, and many other media outlets. None have disputed the author's findings. If you decide to respond to this, do some research first, or you'll probably end up looking foolish.
Yup, the OP has been effectively refuted.
The sillies stand in the corner where they have been put for time out: red eyed and stamping their little feet, like WQ.
New Report: 93 Million will Lose Insurance by the End of Next Year.
If that's true, Republicans will be screaming with "joy". I think these guys cum every time they think of Americans suffering. Either they support it or cause it, or both.
Yup, the OP has been effectively refuted.
The sillies stand in the corner where they have been put for time out: red eyed and stamping their little feet, like WQ.
No one has refuted anything. You keep saying that, but present nothing. Kinda lame, Jake. Very sad.
Yup, the OP has been effectively refuted.
The sillies stand in the corner where they have been put for time out: red eyed and stamping their little feet, like WQ.
No one has refuted anything. You keep saying that, but present nothing. Kinda lame, Jake. Very sad.
hush, child, the adults are talking.
Forbes Magazine states internal Obama Administration documents indicate at least 93 Million will lose there employer sponsored Health Plans by the end of next year.
Obamacare has led to the biggest decrease in the numbers of Americans lacking health insurance in four decades—with minorities and young adults seeing the largest gains in coverage, the federal government said Monday.
How'd that work out for ya?New Report: 93 Million will Lose Insurance by the End of Next Year.
Depends on what your definition of "insurance" is.Well, the end of 2014 has come and gone. Where are the 93 million who lost their insurance?
16.4M gain health coverage under Obamacare Government
Oopsie!
Did 93 million people lose their health insurance?Depends on what your definition of "insurance" is.
If it means the possession of a plastic card that pays you nothing whatsoever unless you have a catastrophic health emergency - then yes, more people got insured.
Obamacare took the old catastrophic care plans that used to be very cheap - renamed it health insurance - raised the premiums 3 to 4 times as much and you applaud that?
Did 93 million people lose their health insurance?
NOPE!
No matter how much you struggle, the prediction in the OP failed to come to pass.You didn't define what health insurance is.
30 years ago you could expect your insurance to have a reachable deductible.
Post Obamacare - most plans have an unattainable deductible unless you have a catastrophic crises.
So - YES - many people lost health insurance, because it was replaced by catastrophic insurance calling itself health insurance
How'd that work out for ya?
You are better than that.No matter how much you struggle, the prediction in the OP failed to come to pass.
Sorry!
Obama screwed up American healthcare more than all other negative factors put together have ever screwed up American healthcare.Forbes Magazine states internal Obama Administration documents indicate at least 93 Million will lose there employer sponsored Health Plans by the end of next year. The estimates are that between 51% and 66% of employer based insurance will end due to the onerous (and many would say foolish) demands of the Law. Here's the Story.
Obama Officials In 2010: 93 Million Americans Will Be Unable To Keep Their Health Plans Under Obamacare
Avik Roy Avik Roy, Contributor
On Wednesday, Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius testified before Congress about the continuing issues with the rollout of Obamacares health insurance exchanges. Hold me accountable for the debacle, said Sebelius. Im responsible. I attended the hearing, and I was struck by the scope, scale, and depth of the health laws problems, problems that far exceed any one political appointee. But Obamacares disruption of the existing health insurance marketa disruption codified in law, and known to the administrationis only just beginning. And its far broader than recent media coverage has implied.
Obama administration knew that Obamacare would disrupt private plans
If you read the Affordable Care Act when it was passed, you knew that it was dishonest for President Obama to claim that if you like your plan, you can keep your plan, as he didand continues to doon countless occasions. And we now know that the administration knew this all along. It turns out that in an obscure report buried in a June 2010 edition of the Federal Register, administration officials predicted massive disruption of the private insurance market.
On Tuesday, White House spokesman Jay Carney attempted to minimize the disruption issue, arguing that it only affected people who buy insurance on their own. Thats the universe were talking about, 5 percent of the population, said Carney. In some of the coverage of this issue in the last several days, you would think that you were talking about 75 percent or 80 percent or 60 percent of the American population. (5 percent of the population happens to be 15 million people, no small number, but lets leave that aside.)
By coverage of this issue, Carney was referring to two articles. The first, by Chad Terhune of the Los Angeles Times, described a number of Californians who are seeing their existing plans terminated and replaced with much more expensive ones. I was all for Obamacare until I found out I was paying for it, said one.
The second article, by Lisa Myers and Hanna Rappleye of NBC News, unearthed the aforementioned commentary in the Federal Register, and cited four sources deeply involved in the Affordable Care Act as saying that 50 to 75 percent of people who buy coverage on their own are likely to receive cancellation notices due to Obamacare.
Mid-range estimate: 51% of employer-sponsored plans will get canceled
But Carneys dismissal of the medias concerns was wrong, on several fronts. Contrary to the reporting of NBC, the administrations commentary in the Federal Register did not only refer to the individual market, but also the market for employer-sponsored health insurance.
Section 1251 of the Affordable Care Act contains whats called a grandfather provision that, in theory, allows people to keep their existing plans if they like them. But subsequent regulations from the Obama administration interpreted that provision so narrowly as to prevent most plans from gaining this protection.
The Departments mid-range estimate is that 66 percent of small employer plans and 45 percent of large employer plans will relinquish their grandfather status by the end of 2013, wrote the administration on page 34,552 of the Register. All in all, more than half of employer-sponsored plans will lose their grandfather status and get canceled. According to the Congressional Budget Office, 156 million Americansmore than half the populationwas covered by employer-sponsored insurance in 2013.
Another 25 million people, according to the CBO, have nongroup and other forms of insurance; that is to say, they participate in the market for individually-purchased insurance. In this market, the administration projected that 40 to 67 percent of individually-purchased plans would lose their Obamacare-sanctioned grandfather status and get canceled, solely due to the fact that there is a high turnover of participants and insurance arrangements in this market. (Plans purchased after March 23, 2010 do not benefit from the grandfather clause.) The real turnover rate would be higher, because plans can lose their grandfather status for a number of other reasons.
How many people are exposed to these problems? 60 percent of Americans have private-sector health insuranceprecisely the number that Jay Carney dismissed. As to the number of people facing cancellations, 51 percent of the employer-based market plus 53.5 percent of the non-group market (the middle of the administrations range) amounts to 93 million Americans.
Will these canceled plans be replaced with better coverage?
President Obamas famous promise that you could keep your plan was not some naïve error or accident. He, and his allies, knew that previous Democratic attempts at health reform had failed because Americans were happy with the coverage they had, and opposed efforts to change the existing system.
Now, supporters of the law are offering a different argument. We didnt really mean it when we said you could keep your plan, they say, but it doesnt matter, because the coverage youre going to get under Obamacare will be better than the coverage you had before.
But thats not true. Obamacare forces insurers to offer services that most Americans dont need, dont want, and wont use, for a higher price. Bob Laszewski, in a revealing blog post, wrote about the cancellation of his own health coverage. Right now, he wrote, I have Cadillac health insurance. I can access every provider in the national Blue Cross networkabout every doc and hospital in Americawithout a referral and without higher deductibles and co-pays.
But his plan is being canceled. His new, Obamacare-compatible plan has a $500 higher deductible, and a narrower physician and hospital network that restricts out-of-town providers. And yet it costs 66 percent more than his current plan. Mr. President, he writes, I really like my health plan and I would like to keep it. Can you help me out here?
Congress proposes a straightforward solution
Senator Ron Johnson (R., Wisc.) and Rep. Fred Upton (R., Mich.) have proposed the If You Like Your Health Care Plan You Can Keep It Act, with dozens of co-sponsors. The two-page bill simply states that nothing in [the Affordable Care Act] shall be construed to require that an individual terminate coverage under a group health plan or health insurance coverage in which such individual was enrolled during any part of the period beginning on the date of enactment of this Act and ending on December 31, 2013.
Some Senate Democrats are jumping on the grandfathering bandwagon. Mary Landrieu (D., La.), locked in a competitive reelection race against Rep. Bill Cassidy (R., La.), now claims that she was unaware that Obamacare would disrupt existing insurance arrangements. It was our understanding when we voted for that bill that people when they have insurance could keep with what they had. So Im going to be working on that fix, she said on Wednesday.
But thats not accurate. It was well known, as far back as 2009, that millions of Americans would lose their existing coverage under the Obamacare bill. Landrieu still voted for it. In September of 2010, Sen. Mike Enzi (R., Wyo.) introduced legislation that would protect small businesses from losing their health plans grandfathered status under Obamacare. Landrieu voted against the bill, on a party-line vote.
But Landrieus flip-flop illustrates the potency of this issue. If Americans were truly being forced off of their existing insurance plansthat they likeand into better and more affordable ones, the outcry would be minimal. But that isnt whats happening. People are being forced into inferior and costlier plans. And theyre making their displeasure felt in Washington.
We lost our primary care physician and my hubby lost his cancer doctor due to Obamacare despite Obama going on TV many times assuring us that if we liked our doctor we could keep our doctor. Our copays and deductibles doubled and tripled or more in many cases.No matter how much you struggle, the prediction in the OP failed to come to pass.
Sorry!
We lost our primary care physician and my hubby lost his cancer doctor due to Obamacare despite Obama going on TV many times assuring us that if we liked our doctor we could keep our doctor. Our copays and deductibles doubled and tripled or more in many cases.
Don't tell me what predictions didn't come to pass. And healthcare is now an assembly line of referrals to specialists and waits for approval for necessary procedures that we didn't have to endure before. There is nothing, and I do mean NOTHING in Obamacare that benefits anybody but a very small select few.
Yup, the OP has been effectively refuted.
The sillies stand in the corner where they have been put for time out: red eyed and stamping their little feet, like WQ.
