New Israel Law Makes Apartheid Official

[Lipush]

...the right to realize self-determination “is unique to the Jewish people.”

So what does that mean in practice?

"Unique"?

When and where does the law says such thing.

The OP is a liar.

What does the law actually say?

THAT should have been the question in the first place, instead of the stupid opening post.

So, let's talk about this bill.

This bill was brought forth by two ministers: Avi Dicther and Ze'ez Alkin, who initiated the bill on the 18th Knesset. It has two versions. The one by Ayelet Shaked, who's the minister of law, and Ze'ev Elkin. The first bill talked about a law declaining openly that "Israel is a Jewish state", but the written version states that "Israel is the national home of the Jewish people". (Which is nothing new! it was the idea brought by the Zionist movement since 1803).

Later on, ministers Shaked, Elkin and Levin fixed the bill, which is not under question. later on, Netanyahu brought his own versions.

THIS is the main clauses of the general bill:

1. Israel is the national home of the Jewish people.

2. Israel is obligated to preserve the Jewish tradition, which includes the Hebrew Calendar, the Hebrew language and Jewish law.

3. Jews have the right to make Aliyah to Israel and gain citizenship.

4. The Arabic language will gain "special status" in Israel.

5. Freedom of expression will remain a high value to all three religions.

6. The state will keep the holy places of all religions.

7. Israel is under a democratic regime.

8. Israel is built on the values of freedome and justice, as the prophets of Israel first called, and be obligated to keep human rights of each citizen and groups, as first anounced.

 

[P F Tinmore]

It is about to become a law that Israel will be a Jewish state and democratic too. Discrimination for Jews and against other citizens will be protected by law. According to this proposed law, while every individual has the right “to preserve his culture, heritage, language and identity,” the right to realize self-determination “is unique to the Jewish people.”
Reigniting old dispute, ministers okay new ‘Jewish State’ bill
What about Arab citizens of Israel having a right to self-determination? That will not exist in the "democratic" Jewish state. This solves the problem for the Israelis who have de facto annexed the Palestinian Territories because they will be outnumbered when the Palestinians of Sumeria and Judea will be a threat of being a majority in the sectarian state. Apartheid, or negating the rights of Arabs, is the only way for Israel to be democratic. The only problem remaining for the Israelis is that apartheid meets with universal opprobrium.

I don't support that movement. Not really necessary. The Israeli Arabs are fine partners. Many in the Knesset.

But I don't get to vote in Israel do I? Do YOU get a vote? Don't think so..

Most Israeli citizens are denied the right to vote.

 

[P F Tinmore]

I think this new law sets in stone a system for different classes of people and not everyone has the same rights. It's not self determination for Israelis but self determination for Jews.

So I wonder how this will play out in practice.

There is no Israeli nationality.

 

[louie888]

It is about to become a law that Israel will be a Jewish state and democratic too. Discrimination for Jews and against other citizens will be protected by law. According to this proposed law, while every individual has the right “to preserve his culture, heritage, language and identity,” the right to realize self-determination “is unique to the Jewish people.”
Reigniting old dispute, ministers okay new ‘Jewish State’ bill
What about Arab citizens of Israel having a right to self-determination? That will not exist in the "democratic" Jewish state. This solves the problem for the Israelis who have de facto annexed the Palestinian Territories because they will be outnumbered when the Palestinians of Sumeria and Judea will be a threat of being a majority in the sectarian state. Apartheid, or negating the rights of Arabs, is the only way for Israel to be democratic. The only problem remaining for the Israelis is that apartheid meets with universal opprobrium.

The bottom line here is that this law, if passed, greenlights their long wanted final solution for the Palestinian people.

Beyond that and wording aside, can we stop calling Israel a democracy? If this isn't more evidence that this regime is nothing more than a fascist theocracy, then what is?

 

[montelatici]

...the right to realize self-determination “is unique to the Jewish people.”

So what does that mean in practice?

"Unique"?

When and where does the law says such thing.

The OP is a liar.

What does the law actually say?

THAT should have been the question in the first place, instead of the stupid opening post.

So, let's talk about this bill.

This bill was brought forth by two ministers: Avi Dicther and Ze'ez Alkin, who initiated the bill on the 18th Knesset. It has two versions. The one by Ayelet Shaked, who's the minister of law, and Ze'ev Elkin. The first bill talked about a law declaining openly that "Israel is a Jewish state", but the written version states that "Israel is the national home of the Jewish people". (Which is nothing new! it was the idea brought by the Zionist movement since 1803).

Later on, ministers Shaked, Elkin and Levin fixed the bill, which is not under question. later on, Netanyahu brought his own versions.

THIS is the main clauses of the general bill:

1. Israel is the national home of the Jewish people.

2. Israel is obligated to preserve the Jewish tradition, which includes the Hebrew Calendar, the Hebrew language and Jewish law.

3. Jews have the right to make Aliyah to Israel and gain citizenship.

4. The Arabic language will gain "special status" in Israel.

5. Freedom of expression will remain a high value to all three religions.

6. The state will keep the holy places of all religions.

7. Israel is under a democratic regime.

8. Israel is built on the values of freedome and justice, as the prophets of Israel first called, and be obligated to keep human rights of each citizen and groups, as first anounced.

There is nothing democratic about a nation that selects a specific religion as the national religion and declaring itself the home of a specific religion. It would be like the U.S. declaring itself the home of the Christian people. LOL

 

[Coyote]

It is about to become a law that Israel will be a Jewish state and democratic too. Discrimination for Jews and against other citizens will be protected by law. According to this proposed law, while every individual has the right “to preserve his culture, heritage, language and identity,” the right to realize self-determination “is unique to the Jewish people.”
Reigniting old dispute, ministers okay new ‘Jewish State’ bill
What about Arab citizens of Israel having a right to self-determination? That will not exist in the "democratic" Jewish state. This solves the problem for the Israelis who have de facto annexed the Palestinian Territories because they will be outnumbered when the Palestinians of Sumeria and Judea will be a threat of being a majority in the sectarian state. Apartheid, or negating the rights of Arabs, is the only way for Israel to be democratic. The only problem remaining for the Israelis is that apartheid meets with universal opprobrium.

I don't support that movement. Not really necessary. The Israeli Arabs are fine partners. Many in the Knesset.

But I don't get to vote in Israel do I? Do YOU get a vote? Don't think so..

Most Israeli citizens are denied the right to vote.

How is that?

 

[Coyote]

...the right to realize self-determination “is unique to the Jewish people.”

So what does that mean in practice?

"Unique"?

When and where does the law says such thing.

The OP is a liar.

What does the law actually say?

THAT should have been the question in the first place, instead of the stupid opening post.

So, let's talk about this bill.

This bill was brought forth by two ministers: Avi Dicther and Ze'ez Alkin, who initiated the bill on the 18th Knesset. It has two versions. The one by Ayelet Shaked, who's the minister of law, and Ze'ev Elkin. The first bill talked about a law declaining openly that "Israel is a Jewish state", but the written version states that "Israel is the national home of the Jewish people". (Which is nothing new! it was the idea brought by the Zionist movement since 1803).

Later on, ministers Shaked, Elkin and Levin fixed the bill, which is not under question. later on, Netanyahu brought his own versions.

THIS is the main clauses of the general bill:

1. Israel is the national home of the Jewish people.

2. Israel is obligated to preserve the Jewish tradition, which includes the Hebrew Calendar, the Hebrew language and Jewish law.

3. Jews have the right to make Aliyah to Israel and gain citizenship.

4. The Arabic language will gain "special status" in Israel.

5. Freedom of expression will remain a high value to all three religions.

6. The state will keep the holy places of all religions.

7. Israel is under a democratic regime.

8. Israel is built on the values of freedome and justice, as the prophets of Israel first called, and be obligated to keep human rights of each citizen and groups, as first anounced.

There is nothing democratic about a nation that selects a specific religion as the national religion and declaring itself the home of a specific religion. It would be like the U.S. declaring itself the home of the Christian people. LOL

That doesn't necessarily mean one can't be democratic in theory. In practice it is more difficult because the reality often ends up with discrimination.

Interestingly, there are a number of "democratic" countries with official state religions:
State religion - Wikipedia

Myanmar is one - Section 361 of the constitution states that "The Union recognizes special position of Buddhism as the faith professed by the great majority of the citizens of the Union."
Pakistan is another - article 2 of the Constitution of Pakistan confirms Islam as the state religion

Both of those countries have a clear lack of religious freedom and of persecution of minority religions, though they are "democracies".

On the other hand, the following states have "state religions": England, Scotland, Denmark, Norway...yet they are clearly democratic and allow religious freedom and equality.

Where Israel ends up - I don't know. There are public opinion polls that show segments of the Israeli population supporting greater rights for Jewish citizens.

 

[Hollie]

It is about to become a law that Israel will be a Jewish state and democratic too. Discrimination for Jews and against other citizens will be protected by law. According to this proposed law, while every individual has the right “to preserve his culture, heritage, language and identity,” the right to realize self-determination “is unique to the Jewish people.”
Reigniting old dispute, ministers okay new ‘Jewish State’ bill
What about Arab citizens of Israel having a right to self-determination? That will not exist in the "democratic" Jewish state. This solves the problem for the Israelis who have de facto annexed the Palestinian Territories because they will be outnumbered when the Palestinians of Sumeria and Judea will be a threat of being a majority in the sectarian state. Apartheid, or negating the rights of Arabs, is the only way for Israel to be democratic. The only problem remaining for the Israelis is that apartheid meets with universal opprobrium.

The bottom line here is that this law, if passed, greenlights their long wanted final solution for the Palestinian people.

Beyond that and wording aside, can we stop calling Israel a democracy? If this isn't more evidence that this regime is nothing more than a fascist theocracy, then what is?

Not quite enough pointless melodrama.

 

[P F Tinmore]

It is about to become a law that Israel will be a Jewish state and democratic too. Discrimination for Jews and against other citizens will be protected by law. According to this proposed law, while every individual has the right “to preserve his culture, heritage, language and identity,” the right to realize self-determination “is unique to the Jewish people.”
Reigniting old dispute, ministers okay new ‘Jewish State’ bill
What about Arab citizens of Israel having a right to self-determination? That will not exist in the "democratic" Jewish state. This solves the problem for the Israelis who have de facto annexed the Palestinian Territories because they will be outnumbered when the Palestinians of Sumeria and Judea will be a threat of being a majority in the sectarian state. Apartheid, or negating the rights of Arabs, is the only way for Israel to be democratic. The only problem remaining for the Israelis is that apartheid meets with universal opprobrium.

I don't support that movement. Not really necessary. The Israeli Arabs are fine partners. Many in the Knesset.

But I don't get to vote in Israel do I? Do YOU get a vote? Don't think so..

Most Israeli citizens are denied the right to vote.

How is that?

According to the rule of state succession in international law (Which was reiterated in the treaty of Lausanne, the Palestinian Citizenship Order, and Resolution 181.) all of the Palestinian citizens who normally lived in the territory that became Israel would be Israeli citizens. This would include all of the Palestinian refugees who fled in 1948. None of these people have ever been allowed to vote.

 

[rylah]

...the right to realize self-determination “is unique to the Jewish people.”

So what does that mean in practice?

"Unique"?

When and where does the law says such thing.

The OP is a liar.

What does the law actually say?

THAT should have been the question in the first place, instead of the stupid opening post.

So, let's talk about this bill.

This bill was brought forth by two ministers: Avi Dicther and Ze'ez Alkin, who initiated the bill on the 18th Knesset. It has two versions. The one by Ayelet Shaked, who's the minister of law, and Ze'ev Elkin. The first bill talked about a law declaining openly that "Israel is a Jewish state", but the written version states that "Israel is the national home of the Jewish people". (Which is nothing new! it was the idea brought by the Zionist movement since 1803).

Later on, ministers Shaked, Elkin and Levin fixed the bill, which is not under question. later on, Netanyahu brought his own versions.

THIS is the main clauses of the general bill:

1. Israel is the national home of the Jewish people.

2. Israel is obligated to preserve the Jewish tradition, which includes the Hebrew Calendar, the Hebrew language and Jewish law.

3. Jews have the right to make Aliyah to Israel and gain citizenship.

4. The Arabic language will gain "special status" in Israel.

5. Freedom of expression will remain a high value to all three religions.

6. The state will keep the holy places of all religions.

7. Israel is under a democratic regime.

8. Israel is built on the values of freedome and justice, as the prophets of Israel first called, and be obligated to keep human rights of each citizen and groups, as first anounced.

There is nothing democratic about a nation that selects a specific religion as the national religion and declaring itself the home of a specific religion. It would be like the U.S. declaring itself the home of the Christian people. LOL

Do christians constitute an ethnicity?

This has nothing to do with religion. A Hassidic Jew has as much right to settle in Israel as a secular or even Christian Jew.

 

[louie888]

...the right to realize self-determination “is unique to the Jewish people.”

So what does that mean in practice?

"Unique"?

When and where does the law says such thing.

The OP is a liar.

What does the law actually say?

THAT should have been the question in the first place, instead of the stupid opening post.

So, let's talk about this bill.

This bill was brought forth by two ministers: Avi Dicther and Ze'ez Alkin, who initiated the bill on the 18th Knesset. It has two versions. The one by Ayelet Shaked, who's the minister of law, and Ze'ev Elkin. The first bill talked about a law declaining openly that "Israel is a Jewish state", but the written version states that "Israel is the national home of the Jewish people". (Which is nothing new! it was the idea brought by the Zionist movement since 1803).

Later on, ministers Shaked, Elkin and Levin fixed the bill, which is not under question. later on, Netanyahu brought his own versions.

THIS is the main clauses of the general bill:

1. Israel is the national home of the Jewish people.

2. Israel is obligated to preserve the Jewish tradition, which includes the Hebrew Calendar, the Hebrew language and Jewish law.

3. Jews have the right to make Aliyah to Israel and gain citizenship.

4. The Arabic language will gain "special status" in Israel.

5. Freedom of expression will remain a high value to all three religions.

6. The state will keep the holy places of all religions.

7. Israel is under a democratic regime.

8. Israel is built on the values of freedome and justice, as the prophets of Israel first called, and be obligated to keep human rights of each citizen and groups, as first anounced.

There is nothing democratic about a nation that selects a specific religion as the national religion and declaring itself the home of a specific religion. It would be like the U.S. declaring itself the home of the Christian people. LOL

Do christians constitute an ethnicity?

This has nothing to do with religion. A Hassidic Jew has as much right to settle in Israel as a secular or even Christian Jew.

Christian Jew?

Moron.

 

[Eloy]

...the right to realize self-determination “is unique to the Jewish people.”

So what does that mean in practice?

"Unique"?

When and where does the law says such thing.

The OP is a liar.

What does the law actually say?

THAT should have been the question in the first place, instead of the stupid opening post.

So, let's talk about this bill.

This bill was brought forth by two ministers: Avi Dicther and Ze'ez Alkin, who initiated the bill on the 18th Knesset. It has two versions. The one by Ayelet Shaked, who's the minister of law, and Ze'ev Elkin. The first bill talked about a law declaining openly that "Israel is a Jewish state", but the written version states that "Israel is the national home of the Jewish people". (Which is nothing new! it was the idea brought by the Zionist movement since 1803).

Later on, ministers Shaked, Elkin and Levin fixed the bill, which is not under question. later on, Netanyahu brought his own versions.

THIS is the main clauses of the general bill:

1. Israel is the national home of the Jewish people.

2. Israel is obligated to preserve the Jewish tradition, which includes the Hebrew Calendar, the Hebrew language and Jewish law.

3. Jews have the right to make Aliyah to Israel and gain citizenship.

4. The Arabic language will gain "special status" in Israel.

5. Freedom of expression will remain a high value to all three religions.

6. The state will keep the holy places of all religions.

7. Israel is under a democratic regime.

8. Israel is built on the values of freedome and justice, as the prophets of Israel first called, and be obligated to keep human rights of each citizen and groups, as first anounced.

There is nothing democratic about a nation that selects a specific religion as the national religion and declaring itself the home of a specific religion. It would be like the U.S. declaring itself the home of the Christian people. LOL

Do christians constitute an ethnicity?

This has nothing to do with religion. A Hassidic Jew has as much right to settle in Israel as a secular or even Christian Jew.

The new law has everything to do with religion as only Israeli citizens who are Jews will have the right to realize self determination under the new law.

 

[rylah]

"Unique"?

When and where does the law says such thing.

The OP is a liar.

What does the law actually say?

THAT should have been the question in the first place, instead of the stupid opening post.

So, let's talk about this bill.

This bill was brought forth by two ministers: Avi Dicther and Ze'ez Alkin, who initiated the bill on the 18th Knesset. It has two versions. The one by Ayelet Shaked, who's the minister of law, and Ze'ev Elkin. The first bill talked about a law declaining openly that "Israel is a Jewish state", but the written version states that "Israel is the national home of the Jewish people". (Which is nothing new! it was the idea brought by the Zionist movement since 1803).

Later on, ministers Shaked, Elkin and Levin fixed the bill, which is not under question. later on, Netanyahu brought his own versions.

THIS is the main clauses of the general bill:

1. Israel is the national home of the Jewish people.

2. Israel is obligated to preserve the Jewish tradition, which includes the Hebrew Calendar, the Hebrew language and Jewish law.

3. Jews have the right to make Aliyah to Israel and gain citizenship.

4. The Arabic language will gain "special status" in Israel.

5. Freedom of expression will remain a high value to all three religions.

6. The state will keep the holy places of all religions.

7. Israel is under a democratic regime.

8. Israel is built on the values of freedome and justice, as the prophets of Israel first called, and be obligated to keep human rights of each citizen and groups, as first anounced.

There is nothing democratic about a nation that selects a specific religion as the national religion and declaring itself the home of a specific religion. It would be like the U.S. declaring itself the home of the Christian people. LOL

Do christians constitute an ethnicity?

This has nothing to do with religion. A Hassidic Jew has as much right to settle in Israel as a secular or even Christian Jew.

Christian Jew?

Moron.

Yes a Jew who practices Christianity (G-d forbid) is eligible to settle in Israel.

I think the church calls them Jewish-Crhistians.

 

[rylah]

"Unique"?

When and where does the law says such thing.

The OP is a liar.

What does the law actually say?

THAT should have been the question in the first place, instead of the stupid opening post.

So, let's talk about this bill.

This bill was brought forth by two ministers: Avi Dicther and Ze'ez Alkin, who initiated the bill on the 18th Knesset. It has two versions. The one by Ayelet Shaked, who's the minister of law, and Ze'ev Elkin. The first bill talked about a law declaining openly that "Israel is a Jewish state", but the written version states that "Israel is the national home of the Jewish people". (Which is nothing new! it was the idea brought by the Zionist movement since 1803).

Later on, ministers Shaked, Elkin and Levin fixed the bill, which is not under question. later on, Netanyahu brought his own versions.

THIS is the main clauses of the general bill:

1. Israel is the national home of the Jewish people.

2. Israel is obligated to preserve the Jewish tradition, which includes the Hebrew Calendar, the Hebrew language and Jewish law.

3. Jews have the right to make Aliyah to Israel and gain citizenship.

4. The Arabic language will gain "special status" in Israel.

5. Freedom of expression will remain a high value to all three religions.

6. The state will keep the holy places of all religions.

7. Israel is under a democratic regime.

8. Israel is built on the values of freedome and justice, as the prophets of Israel first called, and be obligated to keep human rights of each citizen and groups, as first anounced.

There is nothing democratic about a nation that selects a specific religion as the national religion and declaring itself the home of a specific religion. It would be like the U.S. declaring itself the home of the Christian people. LOL

Do christians constitute an ethnicity?

This has nothing to do with religion. A Hassidic Jew has as much right to settle in Israel as a secular or even Christian Jew.

The new law has everything to do with religion as only Israeli citizens who are Jews will have the right to realize self determination under the new law.

Yes and those Jews can be totally secular. So?

 

[Eloy]

What does the law actually say?

THAT should have been the question in the first place, instead of the stupid opening post.

So, let's talk about this bill.

This bill was brought forth by two ministers: Avi Dicther and Ze'ez Alkin, who initiated the bill on the 18th Knesset. It has two versions. The one by Ayelet Shaked, who's the minister of law, and Ze'ev Elkin. The first bill talked about a law declaining openly that "Israel is a Jewish state", but the written version states that "Israel is the national home of the Jewish people". (Which is nothing new! it was the idea brought by the Zionist movement since 1803).

Later on, ministers Shaked, Elkin and Levin fixed the bill, which is not under question. later on, Netanyahu brought his own versions.

THIS is the main clauses of the general bill:

1. Israel is the national home of the Jewish people.

2. Israel is obligated to preserve the Jewish tradition, which includes the Hebrew Calendar, the Hebrew language and Jewish law.

3. Jews have the right to make Aliyah to Israel and gain citizenship.

4. The Arabic language will gain "special status" in Israel.

5. Freedom of expression will remain a high value to all three religions.

6. The state will keep the holy places of all religions.

7. Israel is under a democratic regime.

8. Israel is built on the values of freedome and justice, as the prophets of Israel first called, and be obligated to keep human rights of each citizen and groups, as first anounced.

There is nothing democratic about a nation that selects a specific religion as the national religion and declaring itself the home of a specific religion. It would be like the U.S. declaring itself the home of the Christian people. LOL

Do christians constitute an ethnicity?

This has nothing to do with religion. A Hassidic Jew has as much right to settle in Israel as a secular or even Christian Jew.

The new law has everything to do with religion as only Israeli citizens who are Jews will have the right to realize self determination under the new law.

Yes and those Jews can be totally secular. So?

So Israeli citizens who are not Jews will be disqualified from realizing their self determination under this proposed law. When these non-Jewish citizens eventually outnumber Jews it will be impossible for it to be a democracy as the majority will be subject to a Jewish minority. Such a country will have to be an Apartheid one.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

THAT should have been the question in the first place, instead of the stupid opening post.

So, let's talk about this bill.

This bill was brought forth by two ministers: Avi Dicther and Ze'ez Alkin, who initiated the bill on the 18th Knesset. It has two versions. The one by Ayelet Shaked, who's the minister of law, and Ze'ev Elkin. The first bill talked about a law declaining openly that "Israel is a Jewish state", but the written version states that "Israel is the national home of the Jewish people". (Which is nothing new! it was the idea brought by the Zionist movement since 1803).

Later on, ministers Shaked, Elkin and Levin fixed the bill, which is not under question. later on, Netanyahu brought his own versions.

THIS is the main clauses of the general bill:

1. Israel is the national home of the Jewish people.

2. Israel is obligated to preserve the Jewish tradition, which includes the Hebrew Calendar, the Hebrew language and Jewish law.

3. Jews have the right to make Aliyah to Israel and gain citizenship.

4. The Arabic language will gain "special status" in Israel.

5. Freedom of expression will remain a high value to all three religions.

6. The state will keep the holy places of all religions.

7. Israel is under a democratic regime.

8. Israel is built on the values of freedome and justice, as the prophets of Israel first called, and be obligated to keep human rights of each citizen and groups, as first anounced.

There is nothing democratic about a nation that selects a specific religion as the national religion and declaring itself the home of a specific religion. It would be like the U.S. declaring itself the home of the Christian people. LOL

Do christians constitute an ethnicity?

This has nothing to do with religion. A Hassidic Jew has as much right to settle in Israel as a secular or even Christian Jew.

The new law has everything to do with religion as only Israeli citizens who are Jews will have the right to realize self determination under the new law.

Yes and those Jews can be totally secular. So?

So Israeli citizens who are not Jews will be disqualified from realizing their self determination under this proposed law. When these non-Jewish citizens eventually outnumber Jews it will be impossible for it to be a democracy as the majority will be subject to a Jewish minority. Such a country will have to be an Apartheid one.

So Israeli citizens who are not Jews will be disqualified from realizing their self determination

That's awful!!

The Muslims should immediately move to Syria.
Plenty of self-determination for them there.

 

[rylah]

THAT should have been the question in the first place, instead of the stupid opening post.

So, let's talk about this bill.

This bill was brought forth by two ministers: Avi Dicther and Ze'ez Alkin, who initiated the bill on the 18th Knesset. It has two versions. The one by Ayelet Shaked, who's the minister of law, and Ze'ev Elkin. The first bill talked about a law declaining openly that "Israel is a Jewish state", but the written version states that "Israel is the national home of the Jewish people". (Which is nothing new! it was the idea brought by the Zionist movement since 1803).

Later on, ministers Shaked, Elkin and Levin fixed the bill, which is not under question. later on, Netanyahu brought his own versions.

THIS is the main clauses of the general bill:

1. Israel is the national home of the Jewish people.

2. Israel is obligated to preserve the Jewish tradition, which includes the Hebrew Calendar, the Hebrew language and Jewish law.

3. Jews have the right to make Aliyah to Israel and gain citizenship.

4. The Arabic language will gain "special status" in Israel.

5. Freedom of expression will remain a high value to all three religions.

6. The state will keep the holy places of all religions.

7. Israel is under a democratic regime.

8. Israel is built on the values of freedome and justice, as the prophets of Israel first called, and be obligated to keep human rights of each citizen and groups, as first anounced.

There is nothing democratic about a nation that selects a specific religion as the national religion and declaring itself the home of a specific religion. It would be like the U.S. declaring itself the home of the Christian people. LOL

Do christians constitute an ethnicity?

This has nothing to do with religion. A Hassidic Jew has as much right to settle in Israel as a secular or even Christian Jew.

The new law has everything to do with religion as only Israeli citizens who are Jews will have the right to realize self determination under the new law.

Yes and those Jews can be totally secular. So?

So Israeli citizens who are not Jews will be disqualified from realizing their self determination under this proposed law. When these non-Jewish citizens eventually outnumber Jews it will be impossible for it to be a democracy as the majority will be subject to a Jewish minority. Such a country will have to be an Apartheid one.

So all we are dealing here with are - Your delusional projections to the future?
The Israelis voted for their representatives in the Parliament. Those representatives voted democratically on the bill.

None of Your business what people choose deocratically in their state.

But further, try to explain - why is Judenrhein Palestine a precondition to negotiations with the Palestinians?

 

[Eloy]

There is nothing democratic about a nation that selects a specific religion as the national religion and declaring itself the home of a specific religion. It would be like the U.S. declaring itself the home of the Christian people. LOL

Do christians constitute an ethnicity?

This has nothing to do with religion. A Hassidic Jew has as much right to settle in Israel as a secular or even Christian Jew.

The new law has everything to do with religion as only Israeli citizens who are Jews will have the right to realize self determination under the new law.

Yes and those Jews can be totally secular. So?

So Israeli citizens who are not Jews will be disqualified from realizing their self determination under this proposed law. When these non-Jewish citizens eventually outnumber Jews it will be impossible for it to be a democracy as the majority will be subject to a Jewish minority. Such a country will have to be an Apartheid one.

So all we are dealing here with are - Your delusional projections to the future?
The Israelis voted for their representatives in the Parliament. Those representatives voted democratically on the bill.

None of Your business what people choose deocratically in their state.

But further, try to explain - why is Judenrhein Palestine a precondition to negotiations with the Palestinians?

It is very much the present. If you had been reading the posts in this thread you will know that Palestinians are projected to outnumber Jewish Israelis by the end of this year. When Israel formally incorporates Judea and Sumeria, there will be all the Palestinians of the West Bank part of Israel, necessitating an Apartheid system in order to maintain Jewish domination. This new law is designed for such an eventuality.

 

[rylah]

Do christians constitute an ethnicity?

This has nothing to do with religion. A Hassidic Jew has as much right to settle in Israel as a secular or even Christian Jew.

The new law has everything to do with religion as only Israeli citizens who are Jews will have the right to realize self determination under the new law.

Yes and those Jews can be totally secular. So?

So Israeli citizens who are not Jews will be disqualified from realizing their self determination under this proposed law. When these non-Jewish citizens eventually outnumber Jews it will be impossible for it to be a democracy as the majority will be subject to a Jewish minority. Such a country will have to be an Apartheid one.

So all we are dealing here with are - Your delusional projections to the future?
The Israelis voted for their representatives in the Parliament. Those representatives voted democratically on the bill.

None of Your business what people choose deocratically in their state.

But further, try to explain - why is Judenrhein Palestine a precondition to negotiations with the Palestinians?

It is very much the present. If you had been reading the posts in this thread you will know that Palestinians are projected to outnumber Jewish Israelis by the end of this year. When Israel formally incorporates Judea and Sumeria, there will be all the Palestinians of the West Bank part of Israel, necessitating an Apartheid system in order to maintain Jewish domination. This new law is designed for such an eventuality.

Oh if You base Your knowledge on what's written here in the posts,
You'll find that Jews slept all their way through Holocaust, or that the law talks about religion...

Jews in Israel: 6,419,000 vs Arabs 1,786,000
Jews in Judea Samaria : around 500000 vs around 2000000 Arabs.

Are You good with math?

edit: we have yet talked about the recent change of trends in Arab birth rate, Israeli birth rate, the amount of Palestinian students who go to study abroad and stay there...
Maybe You WANT an apartheid for the Arabs but reality is different.

 

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Keep dreaming Rylah.