New Coal Regulations Will Kill Jobs, Boost Energy Bills

[The T]

Stalinist Nikita F. Zherbin was the head of the Leningrad chapter of Pamyat. I gave you the info on Pamyat. Can you read?

Can you?

"So, in your view, is a Stalinist a leftwinger or a rightwinger?"

Stalin was a conservative, not a liberal. Left wing and right wing are irrelevant because they only reflect parochial indoctrination. A conservative raised and indoctrinated in America would want 'conserve' capitalism. A conservative raised and indoctrinated in Russia would want 'conserve' communism.

Conservatism is based on latitude, longitude and date of birth.

He wasn't and never WAS an AMERICAN Conservative. Get that through your thick skull boy...You Equivilence is frought with idiocy

 

[daveman]

Stalinist Nikita F. Zherbin was the head of the Leningrad chapter of Pamyat. I gave you the info on Pamyat. Can you read?

Can you?

"So, in your view, is a Stalinist a leftwinger or a rightwinger?"

Stalin was a conservative, not a liberal. Left wing and right wing are irrelevant because they only reflect parochial indoctrination. A conservative raised and indoctrinated in America would want 'conserve' capitalism. A conservative raised and indoctrinated in Russia would want 'conserve' communism.

Conservatism is based on latitude, longitude and date of birth.

Wow. I can't even begin to fathom the twisted logic that led you to that astoundingly stupid conclusion.

Stalin was a revolutionary. He fought against the Czarist establishment.

He was a progressive, pure and simple. Stop lying to yourself.

 

[Charles_Main]

Kill people, save jobs...the new GOP slogan.

The jobs saved...morticians

You've never had a legitimate job in your life. No wonder youre a Democrat.

These Dumb Fucks just don't get it. We still get over half our Electricity from Coal. This Bill is going to do much more than Kill Jobs in the Coal Industry. It is, as Obama Promised in the past when he thought we were not paying attention, "Make energy Costs SKY ROCKET"

There is no denying it, Forcing us onto un Proven, and NOT READY Green energy by Artificially Forcing the price of the Energy we use now up. Is the Goal of this Administration, and Damn the Economic Consequences. Our Energy policy is in effect being made by the Extreme Environmentalist Movement now.

Yippe.

 

[The T]

Can you?

"So, in your view, is a Stalinist a leftwinger or a rightwinger?"

Stalin was a conservative, not a liberal. Left wing and right wing are irrelevant because they only reflect parochial indoctrination. A conservative raised and indoctrinated in America would want 'conserve' capitalism. A conservative raised and indoctrinated in Russia would want 'conserve' communism.

Conservatism is based on latitude, longitude and date of birth.

Wow. I can't even begin to fathom the twisted logic that led you to that astoundingly stupid conclusion.

Stalin was a revolutionary. He fought against the Czarist establishment.

He was a progressive, pure and simple. Stop lying to yourself.

BuFU is braindead and tries to rationalise it by imposition, projection.

BuFU hasn't a clue.

 

[daveman]

He refuses to answer because BuFU knows the answer...watch the attempt to talk around it...just watch the seething obfuscation in progress.

Either that, or his post was an acknowledgement that he automatically believes everything Communists say.

Must be one of those useful idiots.

Vlad Lenin, and Joey Stalin must be proud of their podginy...

Communism could never have succeeded without stupid people.

 

[Bfgrn]

Can you?

"So, in your view, is a Stalinist a leftwinger or a rightwinger?"

Stalin was a conservative, not a liberal. Left wing and right wing are irrelevant because they only reflect parochial indoctrination. A conservative raised and indoctrinated in America would want 'conserve' capitalism. A conservative raised and indoctrinated in Russia would want 'conserve' communism.

Conservatism is based on latitude, longitude and date of birth.

He wasn't and never WAS an AMERICAN Conservative. Get that through your thick skull boy...You Equivilence is frought with idiocy

Seriously? Are you that thick? I didn't say Stalin was an American. I said he was a conservative. Stalin received a scholarship to a Georgian Orthodox seminary. The beliefs, tenets, orthodoxy and traditions he wanted to 'conserve' were Russian.

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

 

[The T]

Stalin was a conservative, not a liberal. Left wing and right wing are irrelevant because they only reflect parochial indoctrination. A conservative raised and indoctrinated in America would want 'conserve' capitalism. A conservative raised and indoctrinated in Russia would want 'conserve' communism.

Conservatism is based on latitude, longitude and date of birth.

He wasn't and never WAS an AMERICAN Conservative. Get that through your thick skull boy...You Equivilence is frought with idiocy

Seriously? Are you that thick? I didn't say Stalin was an American. I said he was a conservative. Stalin received a scholarship to a Georgian Orthodox seminary. The beliefs, tenets, orthodoxy and traditions he wanted to 'conserve' were Russian.

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

SON? Communist and being a tool for the Proletariat is no way to go through life. Neither is being stupid enough to belive everything you were ever taught by your masters.

Independent thinker? *YOU ARE NOT*

Tool? *ABSOLUTELY*

 

[freedombecki]

I'm surprised to see this on a forum. Since the Clean Air Act, Coal-fired electricity is generated in plants that have scrubbers on their smokestacks and release mainly only steam.

Scrubbers clean the toxins from being released into the air. The sludge is recycled into safe products. Where is all this boogie man stuff coming from? A spin room trying to get even with people who don't support their candidates.

Dirty politics is the worst pollution we face today. Distorting one's opponent as a sport is like those dowagers up in Alaska slogging through Sarah Palin's mail, looking for some small mistake they can blow up into a falsetto pitch that hurts everyone's ears.

Truth is a casualty in destroying American businesses, and I'm sick of the Democrats taking outdated information and trying to raise the costs of power production until free enterprise is no more.

I just don't believe this is a good idea to go after power companies who've done a hero's job of cleaning up their own pollution sources in less than 30 years, only to have all these efforts disparaged by out-and-out misinformation.

 

[bripat9643]

Seriously? Are you that thick? I didn't say Stalin was an American. I said he was a conservative. Stalin received a scholarship to a Georgian Orthodox seminary. The beliefs, tenets, orthodoxy and traditions he wanted to 'conserve' were Russian.

Sorry, but the school you attended doesn't determine your ideology. Liberals go to Harvard and so do Conservatives. A person's politics can change drastically as they progress through life.

You gave a typical leftwing bullshit argument because you know your position is complete bullshit.

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

Robert Altmeyer is obviousy a jackass. Liberals are the authoritarians. You prove it by supporting those Stalinist EPA proposed regulations against cheap electric power.

 

[The T]

Seriously? Are you that thick? I didn't say Stalin was an American. I said he was a conservative. Stalin received a scholarship to a Georgian Orthodox seminary. The beliefs, tenets, orthodoxy and traditions he wanted to 'conserve' were Russian.

Sorry, but the school you attended doesn't determine your ideology. Liberals go to Harvard and so do Conservatives. A person's politics can change drastically as they progress through life.

You gave a typical leftwing bullshit argument because you know your position is complete bullshit.

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

Robert Altmeyer is obviousy a jackass. Liberals are the authoritarians. You prove it by supporting those Stalinist EPA proposed regulations against cheap electric power.

Money quote. THEY have become that which they protested against. Good form!

 

[Jroc]

Stalin was a conservative, not a liberal. Left wing and right wing are irrelevant because they only reflect parochial indoctrination. A conservative raised and indoctrinated in America would want 'conserve' capitalism. A conservative raised and indoctrinated in Russia would want 'conserve' communism.

Conservatism is based on latitude, longitude and date of birth.

He wasn't and never WAS an AMERICAN Conservative. Get that through your thick skull boy...You Equivilence is frought with idiocy

Seriously? Are you that thick? I didn't say Stalin was an American. I said he was a conservative. Stalin received a scholarship to a Georgian Orthodox seminary. The beliefs, tenets, orthodoxy and traditions he wanted to 'conserve' were Russian.

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

Notice how these libs try to cloud the issue with their stupid made up definitions that are totally irrelevant. "Left wing"= big powerful central government, no individual liberty "tyranny". Right wing" = small central government, individual liberty and self-determination, all your stupidity is just that. Your posts are pathetic

 

[newpolitics]

Too bad! This is about the Earth and our children's ability to live, not YOU!!!!

 

[newpolitics]

He wasn't and never WAS an AMERICAN Conservative. Get that through your thick skull boy...You Equivilence is frought with idiocy

Seriously? Are you that thick? I didn't say Stalin was an American. I said he was a conservative. Stalin received a scholarship to a Georgian Orthodox seminary. The beliefs, tenets, orthodoxy and traditions he wanted to 'conserve' were Russian.

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

Notice how these libs try to cloud the issue with their stupid made up definitions that are totally irrelevant. "Left wing"= big powerful central government, no individual liberty "tyranny". Right wing" = small central government, individual liberty and self-determination, all your stupidity is just that. Your posts are pathetic

It's so ironic that your "Right Wing" leads to big government, big brother spying (patriot act), and corporate power that takes away all individual liberty and freedom.

 

[bripat9643]

It's so ironic that your "Right Wing" leads to big government, big brother spying (patriot act), and corporate power that takes away all individual liberty and freedom.

Name one corporation that ever took away an iota of your freedom.

Libturds say a thousand things is if they were the gospel truth when even a fool can see they are patently false.

 

[Jroc]

Seriously? Are you that thick? I didn't say Stalin was an American. I said he was a conservative. Stalin received a scholarship to a Georgian Orthodox seminary. The beliefs, tenets, orthodoxy and traditions he wanted to 'conserve' were Russian.

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

Notice how these libs try to cloud the issue with their stupid made up definitions that are totally irrelevant. "Left wing"= big powerful central government, no individual liberty "tyranny". Right wing" = small central government, individual liberty and self-determination, all your stupidity is just that. Your posts are pathetic

It's so ironic that your "Right Wing" leads to big government, big brother spying (patriot act), and corporate power that takes away all individual liberty and freedom.

Yeah? And which rights did the patriot act take away? Cooperate power? That Obama's middle name, after Hussein of course. Too bad you've got nothing but braindead talking points

Obama Picks Jeffrey Immelt, GE CEO, To Run New Jobs-Focused Panel As GE Sends Jobs Overseas, Pays Little In Taxes

 

[newpolitics]

It's so ironic that your "Right Wing" leads to big government, big brother spying (patriot act), and corporate power that takes away all individual liberty and freedom.

Name one corporation that ever took away an iota of your freedom.

Libturds say a thousand things is if they were the gospel truth when even a fool can see they are patently false.

How about the people who have died and are dying or sick from toxins in their water from factory operations near their water table, huh? Those children and families don't have much freedom being in the hospital anymore do they. How about the millions of animals experiencing a holocaust in factory farms each year to supply fat Americans demand for meat? How about the choices we are given as consumers without ANY information about where our food or products come from, which many times, have hurt the consumer? There are COUNTLESS examples. From hydrofracking, to chemical plants, to water companies stealing water from ecosystems to bring to the system, forever taking water from communities, to corporations entrapping entire nations for their resources in conjunction with the IMF to put them in debt so they are basically enslaved. Come on... wake up just a little bit please, and stop touting your system that is killing all of us and will lead to the most trying times humans have ever seen in future to come with our children and children's children with the dwindling oil supply, lack of clean, fresh water, Global warming, taking away of individual freedom by the government... the list goes on, and it all because of the greed of the super rich, who run these corporations and the special interests that run our government. All of this allowed by idiots like you who buy into and actually defend a system that doesn' give a SHIT about you. Fuck you.

 

[bripat9643]

Name one corporation that ever took away an iota of your freedom.

Libturds say a thousand things is if they were the gospel truth when even a fool can see they are patently false.

How about the people who have died and are dying or sick from toxins in their water from factory operations near their water table, huh?

Name one.

Those children and families don't have much freedom being in the hospital anymore do they.

There are no such people.

How about the millions of animals experiencing a holocaust in factory farms each year to supply fat Americans demand for meat?

We're talking about people, not animals. Only a nutburger worries about freedom for farm animals. Next you'll be telling us how lions need to become vegetarians.

How about the choices we are given as consumers without ANY information about where our food or products come from, which many times, have hurt the consumer?

You have an abundance of information. Apparently you're too stupid to go to the book store and buy Consumer Reports or dozens of other magazines that specialize in educating consumers.

There are COUNTLESS examples.

So far, you haven't named any.

From hydrofracking, to chemical plants, to water companies stealing water from ecosystems to bring to the system, forever taking water from communities, to corporations entrapping entire nations for their resources in conjunction with the IMF to put them in debt so they are basically enslaved.

uhhmmmm . . . . if the water companies didn't "steal water from ecosystems," then how did the community ever get it? Who are they stealing it from, the ecosystem or the communities?

Come on... wake up just a little bit please, and stop touting your system that is killing all of us and will lead to the most trying times humans have ever seen in future to come with our children and children's children with the dwindling oil supply, lack of clean, fresh water, Global warming, taking away of individual freedom by the government... the list goes on, and it all because of the greed of the super rich, who run these corporations and the special interests that run our government. All of this allowed by idiots like you who buy into and actually defend a system that doesn' give a SHIT about you. Fuck you.

You're a babbling moron. That's all you proved with this post.

 

[newpolitics]

Name one corporation that ever took away an iota of your freedom.

Libturds say a thousand things is if they were the gospel truth when even a fool can see they are patently false.

How about the people who have died and are dying or sick from toxins in their water from factory operations near their water table, huh?

Name one.



There are no such people.



We're talking about people, not animals. Only a nutburger worries about freedom for farm animals. Next you'll be telling us how lions need to become vegetarians.



You have an abundance of information. Apparently you're too stupid to go to the book store and buy Consumer Reports or dozens of other magazines that specialize in educating consumers.



So far, you haven't named any.

From hydrofracking, to chemical plants, to water companies stealing water from ecosystems to bring to the system, forever taking water from communities, to corporations entrapping entire nations for their resources in conjunction with the IMF to put them in debt so they are basically enslaved.

uhhmmmm . . . . if the water companies didn't "steal water from ecosystems," then how did the community ever get it? Who are they stealing it from, the ecosystem or the communities?

Come on... wake up just a little bit please, and stop touting your system that is killing all of us and will lead to the most trying times humans have ever seen in future to come with our children and children's children with the dwindling oil supply, lack of clean, fresh water, Global warming, taking away of individual freedom by the government... the list goes on, and it all because of the greed of the super rich, who run these corporations and the special interests that run our government. All of this allowed by idiots like you who buy into and actually defend a system that doesn' give a SHIT about you. Fuck you.

You're a babbling moron. That's all you proved with this post.

Oh we're name calling now? How weak your pathetic. Once again, fuck you. I provided CONCRETE examples you just don't want to admit it. Check out the Alberta Tar sands and the rising cancer rate among locals or the same situations among people in counties where hydraulic fracturing take place? Yeah, I am not affected, you might not be affected, but others are. You just don't care about other people. YOu only care about yourself. HOw about the soldiers in Iraq who were killed by Halliburton for being so negligent in their duty to supply them with able equpment? AHHHHHHHHH... YOU PEOPLE ARE SO FUCKING FRUSTRATING!!!!

 

[Jroc]

It's so ironic that your "Right Wing" leads to big government, big brother spying (patriot act), and corporate power that takes away all individual liberty and freedom.

Name one corporation that ever took away an iota of your freedom.

Libturds say a thousand things is if they were the gospel truth when even a fool can see they are patently false.

How about the people who have died and are dying or sick from toxins in their water from factory operations near their water table, huh? Those children and families don't have much freedom being in the hospital anymore do they. How about the millions of animals experiencing a holocaust in factory farms each year to supply fat Americans demand for meat? How about the choices we are given as consumers without ANY information about where our food or products come from, which many times, have hurt the consumer? There are COUNTLESS examples. From hydrofracking, to chemical plants, to water companies stealing water from ecosystems to bring to the system, forever taking water from communities, to corporations entrapping entire nations for their resources in conjunction with the IMF to put them in debt so they are basically enslaved. Come on... wake up just a little bit please, and stop touting your system that is killing all of us and will lead to the most trying times humans have ever seen in future to come with our children and children's children with the dwindling oil supply, lack of clean, fresh water, Global warming, taking away of individual freedom by the government... the list goes on, and it all because of the greed of the super rich, who run these corporations and the special interests that run our government. All of this allowed by idiots like you who buy into and actually defend a system that doesn' give a SHIT about you. Fuck you.

Brainwashing complete... "The evil corporations are killing us all" what a friken nutcase.

 

[newpolitics]

Name one corporation that ever took away an iota of your freedom.

Libturds say a thousand things is if they were the gospel truth when even a fool can see they are patently false.

How about the people who have died and are dying or sick from toxins in their water from factory operations near their water table, huh? Those children and families don't have much freedom being in the hospital anymore do they. How about the millions of animals experiencing a holocaust in factory farms each year to supply fat Americans demand for meat? How about the choices we are given as consumers without ANY information about where our food or products come from, which many times, have hurt the consumer? There are COUNTLESS examples. From hydrofracking, to chemical plants, to water companies stealing water from ecosystems to bring to the system, forever taking water from communities, to corporations entrapping entire nations for their resources in conjunction with the IMF to put them in debt so they are basically enslaved. Come on... wake up just a little bit please, and stop touting your system that is killing all of us and will lead to the most trying times humans have ever seen in future to come with our children and children's children with the dwindling oil supply, lack of clean, fresh water, Global warming, taking away of individual freedom by the government... the list goes on, and it all because of the greed of the super rich, who run these corporations and the special interests that run our government. All of this allowed by idiots like you who buy into and actually defend a system that doesn' give a SHIT about you. Fuck you.

Brainwashing complete... "The evil corporations are killing us all" what a friken nutcase.

I am dumbfounded by your complete disregard of the truth. I can't believe you are not aware of the unbelievable evils committed by corporations in corporate history. Literally all of the evil in this world is created by greed, and the easiest conduit for greed without individual accountability are corporations. That is the whole point of a corporation: LIMITED LIABILITY. Think of all the CEO's that got away scotch free and with BONUSES after the financial collapse. If someone is affected negatively by the externalities of a corporation, such as their health, they stand no chance in court. Corporations are monsters that do whatever they want, without regard for national boundaries, morals, ethics. The ONLY thing they care and have a duty to is increasing shareholder profit. Hence, these people literally get away with murder. All of our lives are effected by it. We don't have a choice much of the time, as there are only so many products on the shelves. If you really want to escape the evil of the corporate world, there really isn't much you can buy, except to live on a commune and avoid buying anything. But, you don't care about other people, workers in far off places, the environmental costs and externalities of corporate production, the suffering of millions of animals... all because we, in AMERICA, have to buy STUFF. You need your meat, your car, your this, your that... so everyone else in the world suffers while we in America get fat and defend our right to get fat. We are fucking retarded. Just look at Palin, Bachman, Glen Beck... you take these people seriously. Enough said. you are a ridiculous person, and you try and make fun of me? Haha... you're an idiot.

You can say what you want about my views and me personally. You're perceptions of corporations are completely distorted. You just don't have enough information. You haven't seen the documentaries, read the articles, fact checked about the OTHER POINT OF VIEW. You only take in what is sold to you as a 'good consumer.' Go to work, trust the government, buy things, show your kids how to do the same, and die.